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Russia to Iran: No soup for you; Update: Russian experts pull out of Bushehr

posted at 10:24 am on March 20, 2007 by Allahpundit
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I hate blogging the Iranian nuke kabuki because my grasp on the science is tenuous, which means any analysis is at risk of being totally wrong. When I read the Times story about Russia cutting off nuclear fuel to Bushehr, I wondered what the big deal was. Doesn’t Iran enrich its own uranium at Natanz? Why, yes — but it’s still a few years away from being able to enrich it highly enough to make a bomb, which means any bomb in the meantime would likely come from Bushehr. Can a bomb be made out of the nuclear fuel that Russia had planned to send to them for the Bushehr reactor? Why, yes, by extracting plutonium from the fuel after it’s spent — which is why Russia’s always insisted that Iran return all of the spent fuel to them. What if Iran ignores them and keeps the spent fuel for itself? That’s where we enter the danger zone:

Iran could try to pursue one of two reprocessing routes if it wanted to produce plutonium. Both pathways present unique challenges and limitations. First, as discussed above, within the next few years, Iran would likely have the large Bushehr nuclear power plant operating. This plant embodies the potential for dozens of nuclear weapons per year as long as Iran was willing to circumvent NPT restrictions, agreements with the IAEA, and the proposed agreement between Iran and Russia to ensure that all spent fuel from Busheher is returned to Russia. In order to handle the hundreds of tons of spent fuel, Iran would need a relatively large reprocessing facility.

Do they have a large reprocessing facility? Maybe. If they do, then according to a 2003 estimate, Bushehr could churn out enough plutonium for 30 bombs a year. Which makes Russia’s decision to turn off the tap, temporary though it may be, welcome news. Politically, too: they’ve been brainwashing the public for years about their sovereign right to nuclear energy, so if Russia pulls the plug now, Ahmadinejad’s got nothing to show for his presidency. Which is not a position he can afford to be in given his unpopularity.

Incidentally, per the blockquote, the second way Iran could get its hands on spent fuel would be by producing it through a heavy-water reactor of its own. They’re building one right now, at Arak, although it’ll be another few years yet before it’s ready. It’s also worth noting that highly enriched uranium has already been found in trace amounts at Natanz, which could mean that the enrichment facilities are much further along than thought or it could mean that the equipment still has HEU residue on it from when the Pakistanis (who sold it to the Iranians) were using it.

As for why Russia might suddenly have decided to put the screws to Iran, I honestly have no idea. It’s late in the game for them suddenly to be worrying about nuclear jihad. I can only assume we bought off Putin somehow; Captain Ed thinks so too. Whatever it is, it’s nice to know we won’t be the only target of his grandstanding tomorrow at the UN.

Exit question: Isn’t the logical thing for Iran to do here if they want a nuke to accept Russia’s ultimatum, suspend enrichment at Natanz, get some nuke fuel for Bushehr, and then restart enrichment at Natanz while refusing to send the spent fuel back to Russia? That’ll probably be the last nuclear fuel shipment they ever get from Putin, but so what? They’ll have bomb-making material on hand their own enrichment facility producing bombs within a few years.

Update: I don’t know what’s going on, but I likes it.

Update: Hmmm. Russia’s denying the Times report about its ultimatum.


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Ummm… were there not three or four Pakastani Nuke Scientists recently “kidnapped” from Pakistan?

After the recent lose of one of their scientists Iran is in the market for replacements.

One thing to consider, we in the West think along the lines of modern nuclear weapons. Remember, it only took 4 years to create Fat Boy… The Iranians don’t need a sophisticated weapon for its purposes. It could be a huge clunker of a bomb built into a huge aircraft for a suicide delivery system…

Romeo13 on March 20, 2007 at 10:40 AM

The defector(s) had proof of Iran’s intent that even the Russians could not deny. Rather than face a public stand off with the US in the UN, they shut off the tap… just a theory.

TheBigOldDog on March 20, 2007 at 10:45 AM

Rule No. 1:

Never trust a Ruskie.

fogw on March 20, 2007 at 10:52 AM

As for why Russia might suddenly have decided to put the screws to Iran, I honestly have no idea.

Iran is suffering a fiscal crisis and can’t pay the bills. Why else would Russia stop dealing with them?

Follow the money Allah baby…

Babs on March 20, 2007 at 10:53 AM

Russia has been making moves to construct a national energy service that would be a cash cow. They’re also not afraid using their statewide monopoly to undercut other energy sources nearby, get into contracts, then throttle the buyer after they’ve entered an exclusivity contract.

Putin’s not stupid. He knows the true pathway to power is through economic, not military, strength, and he’s trying to keep pace with the industrious Chinese, and the best way to do that is to control the energy the Chinese get.

So Putin is doing what he knows best– get the Iranians “pot-committed”, where they’ve put so much stock in a nuclear program that they have to go “all in” now with the Russians or risk losing their investment and get stuck holding the bag. (Look at what the nuclear pursuit has done to the Iranian economy– to get nothing from essentially bankrupting their country will look very, very bad.)

Putin knows this, and he’s now putting the fuel squeeze on Ahmadinejad and his Ayatollah cronies. If the Iranians don’t agree to Putin’s terms, and I’m thinking a severe discount per bbl of oil shipped to Russia and a limit of fuel sold to China, then he’ll just withdraw the fuel the Iranians need to make their bombs.

I’d like to see him in a “World Leader Texas Hold’Em” Tournament.

Nethicus on March 20, 2007 at 10:54 AM

Hmm. I’d trackback, but I’m getting it rejected as spam. AP, is HotAir not taking trackbacks from HaloScan anymore?

Nethicus on March 20, 2007 at 10:58 AM

As for why Russia might suddenly have decided to put the screws to Iran, I honestly have no idea.

This is why.

I love TCS Daily.

Theworldisnotenough on March 20, 2007 at 11:13 AM

Russia cares more about money than world security. Makes no sense, they’ll be using that money to clean up Moscow after Chechen’s destroy it with Iranian nukes. Hopefully we outbid Iran.

Iran just blocked U.N. nuke inspectors and China just became a little more Capitalistic. Any connections there?

Tony737 on March 20, 2007 at 11:25 AM

As for why Russia might suddenly have decided to put the screws to Iran, I honestly have no idea.

The Surge…….? The defectors……..? Dirty little secrets…….?

PinkyBigglesworth on March 20, 2007 at 12:11 PM

“I don’t know what’s going on, but I likes it.”

I can’t help but wonder if the recent defectors from Iran aren’t providing some information that might be changing Russia’s opinion of Iran … for example, if it turns out that Iranian operators were involved in the June 2006 killing and kidnapping of Russian embassy employees in Iraq to stir up tension between Russia and the US.

crosspatch on March 20, 2007 at 12:18 PM

my grasp on the science is tenuous,

This is why I miss Steven den Beste.

Bill C on March 20, 2007 at 12:38 PM

AP,

Here’s why the Bushehr fuel is potentially dangerous. Copied from here:

The vast bulk of the separative work (and the time it takes) is done going from the natural uranium (at 0.7% U235 content) to Low Enriched Uranium (LEU) at 4.4% U235 content.

The remaining work to go from LEU to HEU may be done extremely rapidly with a large number of centrifuges, or proportionately longer with a smaller number of centrifuges (using a hidden array of machines or subset of the full set of cascades).

Let me give a crude explanation of the counter-intuitive process.

Imagine a bowl with 1,000 ping-pong balls in it. 993 of the balls are green. 7 of the balls are red. The balls are at “0.7% Red Enrichment.”

Now imagine reaching in the bowl and pulling out unwanted green balls. You are doing “separative work”. You will be leaving the red balls in the bowl.

Remove 840 green balls, a long and tedious job.

Now you have 153 green
balls and 7 red balls.

You are now at “4.4% Red Enrichment”

Last step. This time remove only 152 green balls.

This leaves 7 red balls and 1 green ball or an “88% Red Enrichment.”

So note: It took EIGHT-FIVE percent of the work to go from 0.7% to 4.4%!

That is why “Peaceful” enrichment is a fraud, and selling someone LEU for their “civilian” power plant is nutzy if they have even a miniscule and crude enriching technology – centrifuges, calutrons, whatever.

Emphasis added.

NPP on March 20, 2007 at 12:41 PM

So, the Iranians could simply feed the Russian fuel into their own cascades, clandestine or otherwise. An added benefit is that the fuel is already pure – meaning that impurities that have a tendency to crash cascades have already been removed.

In fact, it was impurities with Iran’s UF6 that caused a crash in one of their cascades last year after they successfully enriched some pure Chinese UF6.

NPP on March 20, 2007 at 12:46 PM

Iran just blocked U.N. nuke inspectors and China just became a little more Capitalistic. Any connections there?

I was going to say that we need to keep tabs on China. If the Russians have, in fact, cut Iran off, then Iran’ll turn to China for supplies of nuke fuel. Since China’s been growing so much, they need more oil from the ME. I’m sure Iran’d be more than happy to cut them a deal.

We need to keep our eye on the ball.

nukemhill on March 20, 2007 at 12:54 PM

Two thoughts:

1. Infiltrate an anti-war protest with an anti-Busheher sign and see if anyone knows it’s not against Bush

2. Send Tehran news clippings about Chernobyl to see if they even knew about it, and if they already did, make them think something is leading up to another meltdown and this is the reason that the Russians are pulling out(like the Iranians know the true science about this either).

- The Cat

MirCat on March 20, 2007 at 1:41 PM

NO SOUP FOR YOU!

Allah owes me a new keyboard.

Pilgrim on March 20, 2007 at 1:54 PM

Two thoughts:

1. Infiltrate an anti-war protest with an anti-Busheher sign and see if anyone knows it’s not against Bush

Considering the dung-throwing monkeys are violent, should they figure it out, it would get very dicey.

2. Send Tehran news clippings about Chernobyl to see if they even knew about it, and if they already did, make them think something is leading up to another meltdown and this is the reason that the Russians are pulling out(like the Iranians know the true science about this either).

- The Cat

MirCat on March 20, 2007 at 1:41 PM

You’re assuming the Islamokazis that run Iran give a flying shinola about the health of anybody other than themselves.

steveegg on March 20, 2007 at 4:49 PM

Given the widely-held theory that Iran will soon have no oil reserves, perhaps Putin has decided that Iran is more valuable as an oil importer down the road than as a nuclear technology client in the near term. “Complications” arising from a nuclear Iran under the current leadership may result in Russia having neither.

shuzilla on March 20, 2007 at 6:41 PM

NPP on March 20, 2007 at 12:41 PM

Im not an expert but I think the ping pong ball analogy there is totally flawed. Color is not a good analogy. Imagine you are trying to remove ping pong balls that have a 1% difference in weight and are otherwise identical. As you remove some balls it becomes harder to differentiate them. You can’t just look at them. You could be continuing to operate the centrifuge and it fails to make any progress to remove any more.

Resolute on March 20, 2007 at 7:18 PM

Resolute,

That analogy comes from a nuclear engineer – sorry, I take his layman explanation over yours.

NPP on March 20, 2007 at 9:01 PM

He may know more about nuclear science and reactions but this isnt about a nuclear reaction. It is about a materiel in a centrifuge. You only need to take a chemisty/biology class to understand that colors are a bad analogy for something in a centrifuge and that it becomes harder to purify something as you approach 100%. The idea that it becomes easier the futher along you are is totally wrong. By that logic it should be a piece of cake to get it to 100% then – which is impossible there is no 100% enriched uranium with current tech.

Resolute on March 20, 2007 at 9:48 PM

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