House Dems don’t have the votes for their Iraq bill — yet
posted at 9:55 pm on March 20, 2007 by Allahpundit
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The vote’s Thursday and they’re still short. Barely.
A House Democrat close to the leadership said there are now a dozen Democrats squarely against the bill — about half of them liberals and half of them conservatives — with another eight opponents seen as persuadable. If Republicans stay united, Democrats can afford to lose only 15 members. A few Republicans are undecided and could side with the Democrats, but they are not likely to announce their support ahead of the vote.
They’re pulling out all the stops to push it through, enlisting elder statesmen to endorse it, larding it up with pork to bribe the holdouts, and strong-arming everyone else who can’t be romanced or bought off:
One congressman, who spoke on condition of anonymity to avoid retribution from leaders, bristled at how aggressively he was being pressured to vote for the bill, singling out Caucus Chairman Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill.) as especially forceful.
“I really resent this,” the lawmaker said. “Rahm Emanuel told us a vote against this bill is a vote to give the Republicans victory.”
The congressman also noted that Democratic leaders had “made clear” to him that they might yank funding requests he had made for projects in his district if he did not support the measure.
Bush will veto it in the unlikely event that it makes it past the Senate, so all this exertion is part passion play for the nutroots’ benefit and part maneuvering to force Bush to pull the trigger on it so they can then blame him for denying the troops the funds they need. It’s a waste of time but politics is politics.
They locked up the endorsement they really needed yesterday; that should be good enough to cow a few recalcitrant anti-war Dems into supporting the measure. But even here, there’s a bit of orchestration:
Some anti-war activists assailed MoveOn.org’s approach to the Iraq bill, alleging that the organization had used a skewed poll to conclude that 85 percent of its members backed the measure.
“MoveOn put out a dishonest poll that did not offer its members a real choice to end the war, and now the peace movement is lobbying activists to reform MoveOn or drop off its list,” David Swanson, a board member of Progressive Democrats of America, said in an e-mail to The Politico. “I unsubscribed from MoveOn this morning.”
In the poll, MoveOn.org gave its members a choice of supporting, opposing or being “not sure” of the plan proposed by the Democratic leadership, according to an e-mail sent to members Sunday by MoveOn.org official Eli Pariser.
It did not mention a more aggressive withdrawal proposal backed by Woolsey, Waters and Rep. Barbara Lee (D-Calif.).
Exit question: Is Rahm the new Hammer?
Update: Politico says they’re short 14 at the moment.
Update: Hammertime:
As for [Maxine] Waters, action may not come until after the House votes on the Iraq bill, but aides close to Pelosi made it clear that there will be consequences for a chief deputy whip working against the leadership she had sworn to help on tough votes.
“Let’s just say, the speaker has taken notice,” one aide said.
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Rightio, a win on any front is not a win for America but for the Republicans.
I think now I can question their patriotism, they said it out loud,
bbz123 on March 20, 2007 at 10:05 PM
Ohhh.. the Dems need votes, so they are buying them with Pork???
Even if they win, the American people see this for what it is, and will remember…
Romeo13 on March 20, 2007 at 10:11 PM
I don’t believe that for a minute…
MoveOn, dishonest? I you can’t trust a lefty propoganda website, who can you trust?
JetBoy on March 20, 2007 at 10:22 PM
Can you say ‘anytime minutes’? Maybe ‘runs like a bat outta hell’, or the good ol stand by ‘good as new’?
Pelosi, Emanuel, Rangle, Conyers, Boxer, Reid..et al…
Mordecai Jones warned you in 67 (The Flim Flam Man)…..
‘Curley…if they catch us now, they gonna hang us!’.
Yep, smoke, mirrors, bread, circus, a sucker born every minute….thats the donks. Not only working the public but working the nutroots too. They keep this crud up and the party will split before Nov 08. Good.
Limerick on March 20, 2007 at 10:23 PM
The American people are too busy watching Desperate Housewives and Grey’s Anatomy to remember anything for too long.
And… why would anyone unsubscribe from MoveOn? It’s like not monitoring terrorist chatter because you oppose terrorism.
Know thy enemy. Someone smart said that once.
PastaKeith on March 20, 2007 at 10:34 PM
No, I look at him like the new Sphincter!
PinkyBigglesworth on March 20, 2007 at 10:38 PM
Pinky, is that Arlan Sphincter?….
Limerick on March 20, 2007 at 10:42 PM
Exactly.
There is no denying that they are playing politics with the lives of our soldiers. I am unequivocally questioning their patriotism. The Democrats behind this are a disgrace.
Chad on March 20, 2007 at 10:42 PM
You want to see someone with a great stance on the Iraq war? Bob Parks of BlackandRight, has a great video. He gets what the Dems don’t, we need to win.
amerpundit on March 20, 2007 at 11:12 PM
Someone should email them Bryan’s post on Iraq – Four years out. It might smack some sense into a few of them. Nah – I’m assuming they would put their country above their politics. Gotta put down the pipe. Anyone know where I can get the crack patch?
thedecider on March 20, 2007 at 11:18 PM
This quote says alot about the folks who support this:
What more do you need to know?
thedecider on March 20, 2007 at 11:20 PM
Different Brothers from the same Mother……..
PinkyBigglesworth on March 20, 2007 at 11:22 PM
Emanuel is the Hammer on steroids.
When he was Clinton’s enforcer, he was known to use techniques borrowed right from the Godfather, minus the blood and broken bones. The Treason Party is going all out on this. They and their masters at Moveon need more Americans to come home in bodybags to insure victory in 2008.
They want a defeated America, just as they did during Vietnam.
georgej on March 20, 2007 at 11:36 PM
Wish that were true, Romeo. Unfortunately, most of the American people are, as usual, not paying a bit of attention to all of this. Too busy wondering who Anna Nicole’s “baby daddy” is. And they can’t remember past last week. They’ve already forgotten 9/11, haven’t they? You’d think that would be a bit more memorable…
aero on March 20, 2007 at 11:57 PM
Why don’t more lawmakers blow the whistle on this kind of behind-the-scenes strong-arming, backstabbing, and bribing? Bullies are much less likely to try that kind of thing in the daylight with people watching. If I were a lawmaker, I think I’d have a hidden webcam in my office and do live webcasts of these little sessions with the leadership. Of course, my constituents probably wouldn’t be too happy about the lack of goodies I’d be bringing home to my district, but hey, it’d be fun while it lasted! ;-)
aero on March 21, 2007 at 12:02 AM
Oooh! Oooh! I hear we’re going to find out within the next 24 hours. Yeah, a DNA expert has flown to the Bahama’s to get a DNA sample from the baby to compare with ANS and all the “baby’s-daddy’s-in-waiting”.
Ugh! I’m so sick of this.
But guess what folks? It’s me! I’m the baby’s daddy! That’s right. Throwin’ my hat in the ring, baby!
thedecider on March 21, 2007 at 12:14 AM
No, it’s me! I’m the daddy! I’m a woman, but that doesn’t matter when claiming that one is Anna Nicole’s baby’s daddy, does it?
Seriously, I think it’s Bill Clinton. Is there a betting pool somewhere?
aero on March 21, 2007 at 12:33 AM
Oh heck no! It’s a freakin’ free-for-all. I have a one in a 2 billion chance of being the daddy! It’s like the freakin’ lottery baby! Go for it!
thedecider on March 21, 2007 at 12:43 AM
I dvr bill o and H&C and every time they cover this pathetic “who is the daddy” horse$hit, I skip through it. I just could not care less. Same is true for dancing with the stars, survivor, and idol.
We need more value based TV. For some reason, what this country needs is never admitted until the need has become desperation.
csdeven on March 21, 2007 at 6:01 AM
Would someone please explain to me why it is that porkbarrel spending is still allowed? Is it just good old fashioned corruption on the part of the people that should know better, or is there some ‘legitimate’ reason that their hiding behind?
Wolfman on March 21, 2007 at 6:32 AM
Wolfman asks: “Would someone please explain to me why it is that porkbarrel spending is still allowed?”
The answer, sung to the tune of “Here we go round the mulberry B0000SH.”
“This is the way we tax and spend,
Tax and spend,
Tax and spend.
This is the way we tax and spend,
we’re DEMOCRATS in office.”
Any questions?
georgej on March 21, 2007 at 8:55 AM
Idiotic crap like this makes my friggin’ blood boil. Does this pinhead really believe that the Iraqi government needs pressure from us to want to get rid of the savages trying to overthrow and kill them?
B Moe on March 21, 2007 at 9:14 AM
Because between pork barrel spending and campaign finance reform, an incumbent is almost unbeatable. Why would an elected official want to change that?
B Moe on March 21, 2007 at 9:16 AM
Okay, okay, so I backslid… nevertheless…
“It did not mention a more aggressive withdrawal proposal backed by Woolsey, Waters and Rep. Barbara Lee (D-Calif.).”
Whenever someone mentions Barbara Lee, I’m reminded of David Horowitz’s “Another Low, Dishonest Decade on the Left.” Apparently I’m not the only one:
“In 1983, Lee and Dellums traveled to Grenada on official business of the House Armed Services Committee. They were there to gauge the military threat posed to the U.S. by a new airport that was being built there. U.S. military forces later captured documents that revealed that Lee had presented Grenada’s Politburo with a draft of Dellums’ report – before it was presented to the congressional committee!”
That’s from Neil Boortz’s editorial; go here to read the whole thing.
Hiraghm on March 21, 2007 at 12:32 PM
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