Comments on: CAIR and the St. Petersburg Declaration http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/ The world’s first, full-service conservative Internet broadcast network Fri, 27 Nov 2009 05:50:23 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Bryan http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/comment-page-1/#comment-305185 Bryan Fri, 16 Mar 2007 04:17:02 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/#comment-305185 <blockquote>Keep Spencer for as long as he will do it.</blockquote> That's our plan.

Keep Spencer for as long as he will do it.

That’s our plan.

]]> By: OneEyedJack http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/comment-page-1/#comment-305156 OneEyedJack Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:56:41 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/#comment-305156 To the Hot Air Staff. Robert Spencer is a gem. He sticks to facts with an almost Seargent Friday-like zeal, yet paints an accurate picture and gets his point across. He says more in one day a week than all the clips of Rosie and Joy combined. And yet, those clips of Rosie get comments at a ratio of more than 2 to 1, comparitively. But don't let hit's and links and comments dictate content on this fine blog. Keep Spencer for as long as he will do it. To the Hot Air Staff.

Robert Spencer is a gem.
He sticks to facts with an almost Seargent Friday-like zeal, yet paints an accurate picture and gets his point across.

He says more in one day a week than all the clips of Rosie and Joy combined.

And yet, those clips of Rosie get comments at a ratio of more than 2 to 1, comparitively.

But don’t let hit’s and links and comments dictate content on this fine blog. Keep Spencer for as long as he will do it.

]]> By: PinkyBigglesworth http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/comment-page-1/#comment-304986 PinkyBigglesworth Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:34:36 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/#comment-304986 Very well done, Mr. Spencer. Thank you for your insight. Very well done, Mr. Spencer.

Thank you for your insight.

]]> By: omegaram http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/comment-page-1/#comment-304820 omegaram Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:33:30 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/#comment-304820 <strong>Great Vent Robert Spencer! We need this accurate reporting and excellent commentary.</strong> In my opinion, CAIR is not interested in the free discourse of ideas relating to Islam, they are a group only interested in disiminating propaganda favorable to the Islamofacist, confronting those who oppose Islamic conquest, and are funded by foreign sources that have an agenda not acknowleged by CAIR. Robert Spencer seems to hold some hope of legitimate interest in Islam being compatable with democracy. I do not agree. Islam is fundamentally flawed in that it contains religious doctrine, not to be questioned by anyone, that dictates all humans either convert to Islam and by ruled under it's laws, become slaves (dimmis), or be killed. Those that are "moderate" Muslims are not really Muslims at all but apostates by the interpretation of the majority of Muslims. The "Moderate" Muslim is a myth. A true "Islamic Reformation" would actually be the formation of a new religion based on Islam but void of it's requirement for conquest, intolerance for any beliefs other than their own, rejection of civil rights the west considers basic to human understanding, and equality of women. What the world really needs is an "Islamic Reformation" that results in a parallel religion. Chritianity had a form of the Reformation that resulted in the developed of Protestant and New Faith movements. Great Vent Robert Spencer! We need this accurate reporting and excellent commentary.

In my opinion, CAIR is not interested in the free discourse of ideas relating to Islam, they are a group only interested in disiminating propaganda favorable to the Islamofacist, confronting those who oppose Islamic conquest, and are funded by foreign sources that have an agenda not acknowleged by CAIR.

Robert Spencer seems to hold some hope of legitimate interest in Islam being compatable with democracy. I do not agree. Islam is fundamentally flawed in that it contains religious doctrine, not to be questioned by anyone, that dictates all humans either convert to Islam and by ruled under it’s laws, become slaves (dimmis), or be killed.

Those that are “moderate” Muslims are not really Muslims at all but apostates by the interpretation of the majority of Muslims. The “Moderate” Muslim is a myth.

A true “Islamic Reformation” would actually be the formation of a new religion based on Islam but void of it’s requirement for conquest, intolerance for any beliefs other than their own, rejection of civil rights the west considers basic to human understanding, and equality of women.

What the world really needs is an “Islamic Reformation” that results in a parallel religion. Chritianity had a form of the Reformation that resulted in the developed of Protestant and New Faith movements.

]]> By: two or three . net http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/comment-page-1/#comment-304593 two or three . net Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:50:19 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/#comment-304593 <strong>St. Petersberg Declaration for Muslim Reform...</strong> The Secular Islam Summit has released a powerful declaration for Islamic reform. Of course, CAIR has objected (though I think part of their objection is legit), but this is a great move in the right direction. Hot Air has an... St. Petersberg Declaration for Muslim Reform…

The Secular Islam Summit has released a powerful declaration for Islamic reform. Of course, CAIR has objected (though I think part of their objection is legit), but this is a great move in the right direction. Hot Air has an…

]]> By: Kini http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/comment-page-1/#comment-304544 Kini Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:22:15 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/#comment-304544 Great Vent! Tis better to claim racism and victimization while committing atrocities like beheading, honor killings, female mutilations, and the list goes on. Poor persecuted Muslims, everybody's out to get them. Great Vent!

Tis better to claim racism and victimization while committing atrocities like beheading, honor killings, female mutilations, and the list goes on. Poor persecuted Muslims, everybody’s out to get them.

]]> By: smellthecoffee http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/comment-page-1/#comment-304359 smellthecoffee Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:50:37 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/#comment-304359 The signatories to the St. Petersburg Declaration have serious stones. This is an historic occasion. Now a movement must be created to encourage Muslims everywhere to sign on or demonstrate approval for this declaration. We have this in our history; once the freedoms of a particular people are written down, nothing is the same afterwards. The signatories to the St. Petersburg Declaration have serious stones. This is an historic occasion. Now a movement must be created to encourage Muslims everywhere to sign on or demonstrate approval for this declaration. We have this in our history; once the freedoms of a particular people are written down, nothing is the same afterwards.

]]> By: WriterMom http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/comment-page-1/#comment-304335 WriterMom Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:43:03 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/#comment-304335 Wasn't it Ibrahim Hooper who said that he would be lying if he said that he didn't want America ruled by sharia? Great Vent. I want to see CAIR respond to the clip that was posted here and on LGF yesterday-the Death Cult Kids. Wasn’t it Ibrahim Hooper who said that he would be lying if he said that he didn’t want America ruled by sharia?

Great Vent. I want to see CAIR respond to the clip that was posted here and on LGF yesterday-the Death Cult Kids.

]]> By: flutejpl http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/comment-page-1/#comment-304090 flutejpl Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:04:42 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/#comment-304090 Well spoken, Robert. Well spoken, Robert.

]]> By: d1carter http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/comment-page-1/#comment-304062 d1carter Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:53:03 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/#comment-304062 See the outrage of the day over at LGF... CAIR supported lawsuit is going after the passengers that reported suspicious activity aboard airline. Another front in the war, right here at home...? See the outrage of the day over at LGF…
CAIR supported lawsuit is going after the passengers that reported suspicious activity aboard airline. Another front in the war, right here at home…?

]]> By: Babs http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/comment-page-1/#comment-304006 Babs Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:12:36 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/#comment-304006 Having watched the full clip of this interview a few days back I thought Glenn did a poor job in his interview. Clearly, the guy that was defending the conference had English as a second language. It seemed to me that he spoke with a French accent. It didn't help any that a plane was flying over when he was trying to make a point. The CAIR guy had a much better command of language and, Glenn never challenged him in a meaningful way. Sigh... Having watched the full clip of this interview a few days back I thought Glenn did a poor job in his interview.
Clearly, the guy that was defending the conference had English as a second language. It seemed to me that he spoke with a French accent. It didn’t help any that a plane was flying over when he was trying to make a point.
The CAIR guy had a much better command of language and, Glenn never challenged him in a meaningful way.

Sigh…

]]> By: eeyore http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/comment-page-1/#comment-304001 eeyore Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:08:05 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/#comment-304001 Yeowzah! A few years ago, the MSM would have been able to bury this story so deep that the <em>only </em>people who would have known about the summit would have been readers of the "Calendar" section of the St. Petersburg Times. It looks like CAIR is going to have a harder and harder time with that whole genie-back-in-the-bottle-stuffing thing about radical Islam. Yeowzah!

A few years ago, the MSM would have been able to bury this story so deep that the only people who would have known about the summit would have been readers of the “Calendar” section of the St. Petersburg Times.

It looks like CAIR is going to have a harder and harder time with that whole genie-back-in-the-bottle-stuffing thing about radical Islam.

]]> By: csdeven http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/comment-page-1/#comment-303999 csdeven Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:07:42 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/#comment-303999 Nice <a href="http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,127817,00.html?ESRC=navy-a.nl" rel="nofollow">Arizona boy</a> victimized by the FBI and the patriot act. Rosie was <a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/02/beatles-breakup-redux-hasselbeck-set-to-quit-the-view/" rel="nofollow">right all along</a>. Rosie for president! Nice Arizona boy victimized by the FBI and the patriot act. Rosie was right all along.

Rosie for president!

]]> By: bones47 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/comment-page-1/#comment-303985 bones47 Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:57:19 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/#comment-303985 <strong>Cair</strong> is such a false scam and will never submit to sayingthat the St Petersburg summit was to help Islam overall. They have an agenda to eventually undermine our government and all it stands for. They want to use our laws to hide behind only when it fits thier agaenda, when it dosen't then they will be through with our way of law. Look at the imamams at the airports. That was a pure setup and they want to undermine the airport security period. I wish people would OPEN thier eyes and really LISTEN to what these guys over at Cair are really talking about. Cair is such a false scam and will never submit to sayingthat the St Petersburg summit was to help Islam overall. They have an agenda to eventually undermine our government and all it stands for. They want to use our laws to hide behind only when it fits thier agaenda, when it dosen’t then they will be through with our way of law. Look at the imamams at the airports. That was a pure setup and they want to undermine the airport security period. I wish people would OPEN thier eyes and really LISTEN to what these guys over at Cair are really talking about.

]]> By: Connie http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/comment-page-1/#comment-303984 Connie Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:56:25 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/#comment-303984 Colmes...oops Colmes…oops

]]> By: Connie http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/comment-page-1/#comment-303983 Connie Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:55:59 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/#comment-303983 By the way, anyone see the exchange between Steve Emerson and Alan Combs last night? It's the first time I've seen Emerson that angry. He said something to the effect of "The fact that you excuse this (referring to CAIR's ties to Hamas), is inexcusable!" By the way, anyone see the exchange between Steve Emerson and Alan Combs last night? It’s the first time I’ve seen Emerson that angry. He said something to the effect of “The fact that you excuse this (referring to CAIR’s ties to Hamas), is inexcusable!”

]]> By: Connie http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/comment-page-1/#comment-303979 Connie Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:53:15 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/#comment-303979 <blockquote>Their definition of ‘civil rights’ is ’submit or die’.</blockquote> I wonder where that came from? Thanks Robert for your continued attempts to expose CAIR. I support reform as a first step. Tossing Islam in file #13 would be a great second step.

Their definition of ‘civil rights’ is ’submit or die’.

I wonder where that came from?

Thanks Robert for your continued attempts to expose CAIR. I support reform as a first step. Tossing Islam in file #13 would be a great second step.

]]> By: locomotivebreath1901 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/comment-page-1/#comment-303969 locomotivebreath1901 Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:43:34 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/#comment-303969 Let the dialog begin, indeed! Say...isn't 'St. Petersburg' a reference to a Christian saint? Ah. There's the rub. And we all know cair and other hardcore islamic organizations do not want to talk. Their definition of 'civil rights' is 'submit or die'. Let the dialog begin, indeed!

Say…isn’t ‘St. Petersburg’ a reference to a Christian saint?

Ah. There’s the rub.

And we all know cair and other hardcore islamic organizations do not want to talk. Their definition of ‘civil rights’ is ’submit or die’.

]]> By: DakRoland http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/comment-page-1/#comment-303949 DakRoland Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:19:06 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/#comment-303949 Thank you Robert. This is an important bit of news that I've yet to see a lot of coverage about. You are 100% correct that if CAIR is really dedicated to what it claims to be, it should be endorsing the Declaration like crazy! But CAIR isn't, and so it won't. People need to open up their eyes about this group. I applaud the people who attended the Secular Islam Summit, and I hope their continue to have their voices heard. Thank you Robert. This is an important bit of news that I’ve yet to see a lot of coverage about. You are 100% correct that if CAIR is really dedicated to what it claims to be, it should be endorsing the Declaration like crazy! But CAIR isn’t, and so it won’t. People need to open up their eyes about this group. I applaud the people who attended the Secular Islam Summit, and I hope their continue to have their voices heard.

]]> By: Valiant http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/comment-page-1/#comment-303937 Valiant Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:06:24 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/15/cair-and-the-st-petersburg-declaration/#comment-303937 Great Vent! Go IBD! Great Vent! Go IBD!

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