Why I don’t care about the AG/prosecutor firings (yet)
posted at 1:25 pm on March 14, 2007 by Bryan
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We’ve gotten an email or two asking why we haven’t covered the AG/prosecutor fracas, or demanding that we cover it THIS INSTANT or we’re a bunch of Bushbots. People sending emails in the latter category obviously don’t read this site very closely. We criticize the Bush administration all the time, and I’m about to criticize it again. So pay attention, “idiot liberals.”
At its most basic level, the firing of 8 of 93 federal prosecutors just isn’t that big of a deal. For a little perspective on just how big of a deal the AG’s action isn’t, I’ll refer you to Clinton-era AG Janet Reno. She fired all the federal prosecutors in 1993. All of them. And then replaced them all with prosecutors of the Clinton administration’s choice. This was the same AG that botched the raid on Waco and did her level best to cover for Bill Clinton for 8 long, scandal-plagued years–years that the liberals now excoriating Gonzales spent justifying whatever Reno and Clinton did, no matter how petty or obviously wrong it was. The liberals in high dudgeon today simply have no credibility with me, based on their own history with Janet Reno.
Furthermore, their tendency to cry “Scandal!” the way the boy once cried “Wolf!” has left me skeptical of everything they say. So I don’t follow their leads into any scandalmongering anymore. They’re just headhunters constantly on the war path, always out to take down adminstration figures in whatever way becomes available. It’s all a proxy attack on Bush, their ultimate bete noir. These liberals have no credibility, only outrage, and they’re always trying to ramp up their outrage at the latest alleged Bushreich brutality just a little bit more than the outrage they generated in response to the last alleged Bushreich brutality. My response: Yawn.
On the other hand, I’m not one to reflexively defend the Bush administration. The fact is, I’m disenchanted with this administration for many reasons. Its border policies, its pandering to Mexico over the same, its general weakness in the face of the left, and its tendency to pull the rug out from under its natural allies while handing victory after victory over to its natural enemies have all left me skeptical of anything coming out of this administration. Defending this administration is often not only not worth the effort, but it’s unappreciated by the administration and it nearly always ends in major disappointment. They end up surrendering just to make the bad story go away, without regard to the principle of the thing or the precedent they’re setting. The grand surrender on the infamous “16 words” is the most glaring and self-damaging example that comes to mind.
They’re big boys, and they can defend themselves from now on. I’m frankly done with them, for the most part, except on the war. I’ll defend them on that because they’re right, and because we have to have some semblance of credible leadership at the top if we’re to win the war. Everything else with this administration, I approach a la carte. Including who is and isn’t kept on as AG or federal prosecutor.
As for Gonzales, he lost me on Sandy Berger. He should go for that case alone, in my opinion. This AG’s approach has been, in general, a lawless one. He trades more on his biography than his abilities. That’s unacceptable. So I’m not one to go to the mat to defend him, and I can’t say that I care enough about this “scandal” to follow all or indeed really any of the left’s various takes on it. I don’t believe the liberals or the press, I’m not a fan of Gonzales, and I’m not about to wade into the breech in defense of this administration again. A pox on all of them.
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Amen.
Mr. Bingley on March 14, 2007 at 1:28 PM
List of administration officials whom the Dems have NOT asked to resign
/it’s a very short list
LakeRuins on March 14, 2007 at 1:31 PM
Amen Bryan. Amen.
TheBigOldDog on March 14, 2007 at 1:31 PM
Bravo! I mean it, this should be required reading for left and right alike. You have succinctly captured my attitude (and I think the attitude of a whole lot of conservatives).
a la carte. That’s the way it should be for everyone.
Matticus Finch on March 14, 2007 at 1:35 PM
I agree that this is a complete nonstory.
About the dissappointment in Bush part – did you see his press conference today? I didnt. ;) but apparently he said something like “Senator Kennedy is the best legislative Senator that we have, he’ll get the job done.” Regarding immigration reform. At least thats what mesablue at Aces said. The Freepers seem to be pretty ticked about it too.
Anybody got the video?
amish on March 14, 2007 at 1:36 PM
…but, it’s also why you attack people on our side who fight back very reluctantly…
TheBigOldDog on March 14, 2007 at 1:39 PM
Key here for me is that the A. General and his prosecutors have NOT been following up cases important to America.
There have been HUGE leaks to the press of classified documents… and nothing done.
Illegal Immigration? Don’t even get me started. Total lack of will to enforce current law.
Where the indictment for the 90K in the freezer?
Wheres the investigation for the mismanageing and theft of Katrina funds by local officials?
Wheres the investigation of Nancy Pelosi using Illegal immigrants in her winery?
On and on, I see the BREAKDOWN of law and order… and it starts at the top IMO.
Romeo13 on March 14, 2007 at 1:41 PM
Romeo, all of your list belongs in the indictment of Gonzales and the admin generally. The liberals don’t care about any of that, naturally. And I don’t care about what they do care about, because they’re disingenuous on nearly everything they say wrt Bush.
Apathy is therefore the rational course on this “scandal.” A pox on all of them.
Bryan on March 14, 2007 at 1:44 PM
Yes Bryan, it is just more nonsence from the elected children in DC
Wade on March 14, 2007 at 1:47 PM
I think I saw somewhere that one of the WS Attorneys was fired for failing to prosecute illegal aliens zealously enough.
What? Yes, really. I just can’t remember where I saw it. Patterico, maybe?
see-dubya on March 14, 2007 at 1:55 PM
US attorneys. Whether they were WSs or not, I can’t say.
see-dubya on March 14, 2007 at 1:57 PM
Wow, what is with everyone calling you and AP Republican stooges all of a sudden? They need to listen to Hannity for a while to get some perspective. Reason I visit here daily is precisely because the perspectives are conservative and very non-partisan.
RW Wacko on March 14, 2007 at 2:00 PM
That paragraph was so freakin’ money it hurts.
In concert with everything written therein, this “scandal” was given an undeserved legitimacy by the administration’s knee-jerk assumption of a defensive posture as soon as the left started making a big deal about it, when they could have simply stated that this is a matter of presidential perogative.
Federal prosecutors are political appointees and can be fired at any time for any reason, or for no reason whatsoever. Even the harshest critics of Uncle Janet’s (and therefore Bill Clinton’s) decision to fire all U.S. Attorneys in March of 1993 acknowledged that it was presidential perogative to do just that.
But it’s too much to ask this president and his administration to even make such an obvious and justified defense of their actions, and as such it’s no wonder his political enemies keep attacking – for them it’s all reward and no risk and encouraged by seemingly everything this administration does.
thirteen28 on March 14, 2007 at 2:00 PM
I see it as extremely unfortunate that this is the way things have become, unfortunately this really IS the case. I can no longer bring myself to defend the current administration beyond saying its better than what we would have had under a Kerry or Gore administration.
Even on the Iraq part of the war I find myself disappointed. We should have gone in with the attitude that we were going to win and we were going to pacify that country irregardless of how many things we had to break, how many “innocents” got caught in the cross-fire and how many bleeding hearts we had to offend.
Instead we got a touchy-feely war that has cost us far more than it would have if we had just done it right the first time. Break it good, break it thoroughly and then re-build it from scratch!
P.S. I also believe that by sparing the population the deaths, horrors and consequences of war we encouraged insurrection and lawlessness. The Japanese and German populations knew the horror of war, it was literally dropped on their heads, and they wanted nothing more to do with it. I bet there wouldn’t be near the number of civilians sympathetic to the terrorists if those civilians had the true cost and horror of war brought home to them.
Fatal on March 14, 2007 at 2:03 PM
I totally agree with you Bryan. Gonzales has too many sore spots for me to care. cold cash Jefferson, Libby, Berger, and the border patrol agents.
Deep down I think, I wish Bush would make him resign.
SCGOPgirl on March 14, 2007 at 2:06 PM
Just one man’s opinion, but Gonzales has never impressed me. On the rare occasions that you actually see him, he’s never seemed to me to be taking his job very seriously. That doesn’t cut it with me–I expect to see an Attorney General with some fire in his eye and in his belly, and who has some passion for enforcing the law. I’m sorry to say that I’ve never seen any sign of those traits in Roberto Gonzales.
All of that being said, it could be a lot worse. Under Janet Reno the Justice Department was utterly politicized, and served as a sword and shield for the Clinton administration, attacking his political enemies whenever possible and going to the wall to protect him from the just consequences of his own, his wife’s, and his cronies’ actions. Reno treated the law like Bill Clinton treats women, Waco and the Elian Gonzales case being notable examples. So I’m with Bryan, don’t come crying to me about allegedly “political” firings if you lauded the disaster on Reno’s watch. I just wish that the alternative media had been as robust as it is today back in ‘93 when Clinton had Reno fire all the federal prosecutors. The enemedia of the day was already in the Monica position for him (and they have been ever since), so obviously they weren’t going to demand any accountability.
ReubenJCogburn on March 14, 2007 at 2:07 PM
In order for the AG to do something wrong, he would of had to do something. It seems he’s been too scared to do anything thus far, why start having a job performance now.
E L Frederick (Sniper One) on March 14, 2007 at 2:25 PM
How about: Every 4 years everyone quits? Any takers?
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on March 14, 2007 at 2:27 PM
Bravo, Bryan!
Pulchritudinous Patriot on March 14, 2007 at 2:28 PM
Bryan,
Ditto, EVERY word you said.
What puzzles me is how our Republicans in Congress can show great courage towards an enemy armed with weapons of destruction, yet show total cowardice to their political enemies who are only armed with false accusations.
fogw on March 14, 2007 at 2:30 PM
Everybody take it easy about Gonzales.
This could have been so much worse. Although I guess it still could be.
Remember, “Gonzales” is Spanish for “Souter”.
see-dubya on March 14, 2007 at 2:33 PM
I think this tempest in a wee teapot is what we’ve got to look forward to for the next two years. If it was this tempest it would something else. So ho, hum….
d1carter on March 14, 2007 at 2:34 PM
Biggest irony of all, on this topic, is that Mrs. Glacier is asking for the AG’s resignation. Memories…
Entelechy on March 14, 2007 at 2:36 PM
Word, Bryan. The Bush admin has pulled out the rug so many times from those who would like to defend it, that they can sink. The only problem is if all conservatives or republicans get tarred with that “Bush brush” as it were.
Vanceone on March 14, 2007 at 2:55 PM
A. Fargin’. Men. To every word of it.
Mike H on March 14, 2007 at 3:04 PM
In concert with everything written therein, this “scandal” was given an undeserved legitimacy by the administration’s knee-jerk assumption of a defensive posture as soon as the left started making a big deal about it, when they could have simply stated that this is a matter of presidential perogative
Playing the Left’s game, by the Left’s rules is always a losing strategy. Always. Always. Always.
TheBigOldDog on March 14, 2007 at 3:04 PM
wsj had a good piece on this which goes into a couple oof notable failures on the parts of the dismissed to prosecute dem vote fraud.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB117383831796236349.html?mod=opinion_main_review_and_outlooks
jummy on March 14, 2007 at 3:07 PM
Absolutely! They serve at the pleasure of the president. He could fire them because they wear green ties and he likes blue if he wants. The fact that he actually has reasons for the firings makes this even less of a non-story than it already is.
JadeNYU on March 14, 2007 at 3:11 PM
Makes me wonder why Bush didn’t clean house in ‘00? and again in 04.
Does every prez need a scandal as a legacy?
Kini on March 14, 2007 at 3:15 PM
Bush SHOULD have fired all of them. He suggested it, Gonzalez talked him out of it.
Bush is STILL trying the be the uniter…a good idea, I’m glad he tried it, but it DOESN’T WORK, so he should just freaking stop it.
Madness cannot be united with reason. It doesn’t work.
He kept George Tenet (disaster), he allowed Sandy Berger to get off with a slap on the wrist (ridiculous), he should have exposed Powell for the traitor that he is, he won’t pardon Libby or our border guards, I’m starting to think he’s a closet lib.
JustTruth101 on March 14, 2007 at 3:18 PM
Touche Bryan….great post…like reading my own thoughts on the subject. AG Gonzales should be fired for dereliction on all the issues that have been recited in prior comments.
The firing of the prosecutors is a non-starter. The President has the legal authority to fire any and all federal prosecutors when he feels like it. See link for related authority in 3-2.120 Appointment.
Bush has become a huge disappointment except in his continuing prosecution of the war on terror. Even on this issue, I am getting more sickened by the administration pandering to CAIR and their sycophants in this country.
http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/eousa/foia_reading_room/usam/title3/2musa.htm#3-2.120
This link is from Drudge.
still468 on March 14, 2007 at 3:22 PM
Well said. Thank you. You have articulated nicely what I have been thinking too. Seems like a lot of us have.
CrimsonFisted on March 14, 2007 at 3:22 PM
8 vs. 93, I don’t get it. Bush fires 8, Hillary and Bill fire 93, and Bush gets the heat. Many of the 93 involved in the White-Water and Arkansas money scandals.
Interrresting…verrry interrresting…but stupid.
right2bright on March 14, 2007 at 3:51 PM
At the very least, Clinton and Schumer really need to STFU about this.
JammieWearingFool on March 14, 2007 at 3:52 PM
Fixed it for ya ;)
thirteen28 on March 14, 2007 at 3:58 PM
mhmmm…but can you believe what Rosie said on The View today??
crr6 on March 14, 2007 at 4:34 PM
I, as well, Bryan.
Excellent piece.
I am just slack jawed at this……..
PinkyBigglesworth on March 14, 2007 at 4:40 PM
I didnt’ even know there WAS an Alberto scandalo. I read that there WAS a scandal in The Corner. Just didn’t say what it was about.
I’m with Bryan on this Admin. Useless.
robblefarian on March 14, 2007 at 5:28 PM
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, George. You can’t out-pander the democrats.
urbancenturion on March 14, 2007 at 6:18 PM
Republicans doing thier jobs get harassed and prosecuted while William Jefferson D – LA gets to chair a very important comittee.
Fired a few prosecutors = GET OUT
Took $100k bribe = “The most ethical congress in history”
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
conservativecaveman on March 14, 2007 at 6:45 PM
Thank you for saying this, Bryan. I totally agree with everything you said, with one exception:
Gonzales lost me long before Sandy Burglar — the NYT leaking classified information, for one. But please keep saying what needs saying.
rmgraha on March 14, 2007 at 7:02 PM
Gonzales lost me at “there is no express grant of habeas in the Constitution” and his opposition to the Second Amendment and his lies under oath about the Patriot Act.
He’s a liar, a stooge, and an enemy of the Constitution. Throw him to the (leftist) dogs.
Mark Jaquith on March 14, 2007 at 7:51 PM
Excellent statement.
I do think that Bush made a big mistake from the get-go by not firing all of Clintons’ appointees – the ones who replaced the fired federal prosecutors, for the whole thing and everyone associated with it had an unbelievable stench. Bush was much too trusting to have believed that those political hacks would put party aside and work for the good of the country. Same for Tenant. Should have dumped him out first chance, but Bush naively let him stay on, and he repaid the trust by mischief. Clinton did not hold on to anyone not put in by him or the Missus. The Left uses government as their tool – they guard their people in the key positions as long as possible. Is it that hard for Republicans to find Republicans to fill such slots? Maybe, since Republicans naturally prefer the private sector.
naliaka on March 14, 2007 at 8:40 PM
What’s the point of proudly boasting about how much you criticize Bush? Are you really that in need of liberal approval? No matter how much you criticize, it’s never going to be enough for them, so why even give them an inch?
forged rite on March 14, 2007 at 8:43 PM
The federal prosecutors were NOT fired, they were redeployed back to the civilian sector.
RedinBlueCounty on March 14, 2007 at 9:36 PM
You all *do* realize why this is getting such inflated press today, don’t you? It is cover to distract attention from the fact that the language to require the President to go to Congress before any action on Iran was withdrawn and the Senate Democrats are set to give the President his entire defense budget request. If they didn’t have this story to splash on page one, they would have to go with the other stories that don’t help the Democrats. So, when they only have news that’s bad for the Democrats, they spin up a tempest in a teapot against the Republicans. Thats what we get for having a “water boy” press.
crosspatch on March 14, 2007 at 10:42 PM
I agree Bryan.
Thanks for posting.
angryamerican on March 15, 2007 at 12:45 AM
Bryan, you said it better than I could. The only ones who are making hay of this are the demofascists who are wanting to make a big deal out of no deal. I think it’s all a bluff to keep us away from the real issues like terrorism and the every day threats to freedom and our very way of capitalist life here in the United States.
I thank Bryan for being one of THE greatest writing talents in the blogosphere.
Ms.U
MsUnderestimated on March 15, 2007 at 1:00 AM
The MSM has already decided that the *Republicans divided and unhappy with their candidates* theme is the one they’re going with for the ‘08 election. Conservative pundits constantly bashing Bush are only helping that storyline. Have fun losing in ‘08.
forged rite on March 15, 2007 at 2:20 AM
The hypocrisy of the Democrats and the bias of the liberal MSM is breathtaking.
I wish that Bush would take to the “bully pulpit” and personally announce (and identify by name) those US Attornies that refused to investigate or prosecute vote fraud, which USA’s objected to the death penalty, and which USA’s were insubordinate by implementing their own agenda instead of the President’s.
Further, I wish that Bush would unequivocally come right out and state: “It is my perogitive to fire these US Attorneys for the reasons I just enumerated, even though I do not need to provide any reason for doing so, as they serve at my pleasure. My predecesser fired, in an unheard of action, all 93 US attorneys allowing only 10 days notice and in the process, deliberately short circuiting an investigation of himself, his wife, and his ally, Dan Rostenkowski who was later indicted for mail fraud.
This is all that this administration will be say about it. Attorney General Gonzales will NOT testify before Congress. Neither will any employee of the Justice Department. Neither will I nor any other member of the Administration either testify or provide documents, emails, or any other information subpoened by the Democrats in Congress.
THIS CHARADE IS NOTHING BUT POLITICS BY DEMOCRATS. It is being stoked by the Democratic Party leadership and the media that aided and abetted Bill and Hillary Clinton to kill a federal investigation of themselves in Arkansas, and protected a member of the Democratic Party leadership while he was pushing Bill and Hillary’s economic agenda through Congress.
This discussion is over.”
georgej on March 15, 2007 at 7:26 AM
Bryan, I came to just about the same realization about the Bush administration when this story broke. I have lost all hope that the POTUS will grow a pair and do what’s right. I don’t think he wants to do what’s right because he is being guided by the GOP leadership who is desperate to regain control of Congress in the next election.
Having said that, I am declaring my candidacy for POTUS. Here is my stand on the most important issues of our time:
Iraq/WOT – Find me a general who is equal to Patton. His mission is to win, don’t really care what he does, just win. That means if the Middle East is now bombed back into the middle ages, then so be it, that’s how they want to live anyway.
Immigration – Use whatever soldiers my Patton does not use to lock down the borders, both North and South, this is a national emergency, we are being invaded. National Guard will be responsible for hunting down any illegal aliens already in the country.
Economy – Flat Use Tax, period. Make as much money as you want tax free, get taxed on what you spend. If you want to live like Scrooge McDuck then you don’t pay much in taxes, live like 99.99% of the population who spends more than they make, then you pay!
MSM – If they print leaked classified info, I first go after the leak, try them on treason, then do the same to the media outlet.
Energy – Let’s face it, oil is why we have been in the Middle East for 50 years. Open up every inch of land in the US for drilling. Offer a $10 billion prize for the person/company who comes up with an alternative fuel source to power our country, think “flux capacitor”.
Vote for me because in all the areas above our POTUS has failed us.
As for everyone who wants Gonzales fired, don’t forget that his replacement or any other will have to be approved by a Democratic Congress!
bubbadog89 on March 15, 2007 at 8:28 AM
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