Video: “300,” the Sout al-Kuffar remix
posted at 2:25 pm on March 13, 2007 by Allahpundit
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A little bit gay, a whole lot awesome. What would Gen. Pace say?
Thanks to the Jawa emperor for the tip.
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If 300 is gay, it’s my kind of gay… The pro-freedom, pro-military, ass-kicking, curb-stomping, West-defending kind of gay.
Lehosh on March 13, 2007 at 2:55 PM
This should be an awesome movie. If anyone remembers their world history, 300 Greeks defended a mountain pass to prevent 1 million Persians lead by Xerxes (sp?) from advancing. Xerkes was so frustrated, at one point, he offered to spare the lives of the Greeks if they turn over their weapons. Leonidas, the leader, replied “Molon Lave!”. Come and get them! Second amendment defenders say the samething to the gun-grabbers today in the USA: Molon Lave!
Andy in Agoura Hills on March 13, 2007 at 2:57 PM
Oh it is, Andy, it is.
KelliD on March 13, 2007 at 3:01 PM
Um, yeah. Just watched the trailer. Doesn’t look as if the movie stays true to the historical, cultural, and religious facts. That sucks.
Andy in Agoura Hills on March 13, 2007 at 3:04 PM
Might want a content warning up there, I swear I saw some inappropriateness. My mom reads this blog, ya know.
JamesVersusEveryone on March 13, 2007 at 3:19 PM
Speaking of 300, Drudge has a link up where some history professor from Toronto is debunking 300’s historical accuracy. No kidding. It’s amazing, the worst part is, this guy seems to hate the Spartans for some reason.
He too is inaccurate in his debunking, which is funny, or perhaps he’s just deliberately misleading. It’s safe to say the kids at the U of Toronto are getting shortchanged in the Hellenistic Studies department.
http://www.thestar.com/article/190493
reaganaut on March 13, 2007 at 3:23 PM
I saw it again (2nd time) last night, this time on IMAX. Yeah – a whole lot of awesome!
I would suggest anyone going to IMAX get to the theater a little early. I had tickets early in the day, but ended up in the first row. IMAX awesome. First row, not as much.
nailinmyeye on March 13, 2007 at 3:24 PM
Andy, I don’t know a whole lot about the actual history (just the basic facts).
However, I went to the movie with my roommate that is fluent in Ancient Greek and lives and breathes ancient Greece (philosophy, culture, language, geography, history, etc).
He’s read Heroditus in Greek and knows a lot about the Battle of Thermopolae.
He said that the movie was surprisingly true to the history. Obviously there were artistic/stylistic choices (for instance, the Persians probably didn’t bring giants and deformed women along with them). A few things had been changed for cinematic purposes (the final push & the fighting wasn’t exactly standard hoplite fighting)….but, for the most part he says it’s accurate.
For what it’s worth, my roommate sees about 4 movies a year in theaters and doesn’t like most movies. He’s never enjoyed a movie as much as he enjoyed this one.
JadeNYU on March 13, 2007 at 3:33 PM
Well geez, Andy, it’s not a documentary. But let me see…300 Spartans-check, a horde of Persians-check, “We will fight in the Shade” quote-check, “Come and get them” quote-check. Leonides awsomeness-check.
KelliD on March 13, 2007 at 3:34 PM
Note: the movie is based on Frank Miller’s comic book “300″ which is a dramatization of historical accounts. It does a good job of recreating the comic book. Expectations with regard to historical accuracy should be limited.
stillaneocon on March 13, 2007 at 3:34 PM
Personally, I vomited a little on the inside when Xerxes placed his hands on Leonidas’ shoulders. So, too, it appears, did Gen. Pace (ooh-rah!).
Is this also your review for 300, Allah, or just for the mashup? Inquring minds, and all that…
Kid from Brooklyn on March 13, 2007 at 3:41 PM
I didn’t see the flick. Just the mash-up.
Allahpundit on March 13, 2007 at 3:45 PM
Well, knowing the context I might enjoy it. I was hoping for a more historically accurate account, not some comic book dramatized version. What is with Hollywood??? Can’t they have a successful movie without pandering to gays, pedaphiles, and the ignorant masses??? Or am I just asking for too much???
Andy in Agoura Hills on March 13, 2007 at 3:46 PM
LEONIDAS FOR PRESIDENT!
Lancer on March 13, 2007 at 3:49 PM
Andy in Agoura Hills:
Spartans. Not Greeks. Spartans. The Greeks were the ones who were given time to get organized by the Spartan sacrifice at Thermopyle.
I think the next battle in the series was at a place called… Marathon.
jeffshultz on March 13, 2007 at 3:56 PM
Obviously 300 is a graphic novel and is exaggerated immensely.
However, the core idea behind the movie stays very true. There WAS 300 Spartans that fought. There WAS a traitor. The Persian army WAS MUCH larger in size. King Leonidas WAS fighting for his people, and freedom from slavery. I consider him to be one of the bravest individuals to ever walk the face of this Earth.
While there were more then 300 soldiers…It was the Spartans that bared the brunt of the attack. Most historical references put the Persian army above 250k. 5k vs 250k isn’t just a fluke…its a Godly intervention!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae
Remember, this is a very important point in history. The large Persian army was on the doorsteps of Europe. And it was a King, and the idea of freedom that stopped the surge. They slaughtered the army so bad, that…
the following battle…Battle of Plataea that the Persian army was defeated, and it ended the push of persian/arabic values into Europe.
If they never fought that battle, the world would be very different today.
msipes on March 13, 2007 at 4:23 PM
I will see this movie again and again until my eyes bleed.
Mortis on March 13, 2007 at 4:38 PM
AWESOME!!
Who wrote the tune? Sounds a bit like Tool, but that may just be me projecting.
AP, youz gots to see the movie. It totally kicks ass, in so many different ways. And the queen is one red-hot smokin’ babe. She’s not just eye-candy, either.
nukemhill on March 13, 2007 at 4:47 PM
Can I get a “Hell yeah!”? (”HELL YEAH!”)
AP, you’ve definitely got to see it. Like I said in the thread the other day, anyone who believes that there are things in this world worth fighting and dying for should see this movie. (Liberals, not so much.)
ReubenJCogburn on March 13, 2007 at 5:14 PM
What the historical critics (particularly on the left) seem to miss about “300″ is that the intent is to take the historical battle and fashion a new Greek epic from it, not reflect on it with any particular accuracy.
By way of comparison, the Iliad is also based on historical events, but it’s unlikely there was really a soldier present who was invulnerable save for his ankle. Nevertheless, it is not widely criticized for this departure from strict realism, because strict realism is clearly not the point.
Blacklake on March 13, 2007 at 5:20 PM
Oh, and the critics of 300 can kiss the hairiest part of my ass–it’s a movie, dammit! Especially when you consider that the same people who are nitpicking it consider An Inconvenient Truth to be a documentary.
ReubenJCogburn on March 13, 2007 at 5:26 PM
Um… You might want to put a content warning with that video for the blood and boobies, Allah.
JinxMcHue on March 13, 2007 at 5:27 PM
Anybody see this version?
How does it compare to the “300″?
Andy in Agoura Hills on March 13, 2007 at 5:34 PM
What boobies? Did I miss that?
Andy in Agoura Hills on March 13, 2007 at 5:36 PM
That’s the DOOM 3 theme by Chris Vrenna, formerly of Nine Inch Nails and currently of Tweaker.
fusionaddict on March 13, 2007 at 5:38 PM
300 was a movie that you went to see and got exactly what you expected. Fighting, decapitations, elephants falling down cliffs, mutated people, they even through in a rape scene for good measure.
Nonfactor on March 13, 2007 at 5:41 PM
Don’t tell me Allahpundit has not seen this yet! I refuese to believe he did not see this yet.
Egfrow on March 13, 2007 at 6:06 PM
And you would be…wrong.
Marathon took place a generation before Thermopylae…in fact, Xerxes’ attempted conquest of Greece was revenge for his father, Darius’ defeat at Marathon.
There were two major battles following Thermopylae, both of which saw the Persian forces get their asses decisively handed to them by first the Greek navy at Salamis, and then by the fully-assembled Greek army at Plataea.
Seriously, they should consider doing a trilogy of these, or maybe a trilogy + a prequel for Marathon.
fusionaddict on March 13, 2007 at 6:15 PM
Nike! Nike!
Mortis on March 13, 2007 at 7:13 PM
The left just wants to attack this movie because it stands for everything they are against (like you actually have to fight for your freedom, it’s pro-military, pro-action, politicians suck, diplomacy does not solve all problems as they are going to get conqured/enslaved as they TALK about doing rather than actually “DOing” something to defend themselves. sound familiar?)
This movie can’t be gay because it totally gave me wood…
BadBrad on March 13, 2007 at 7:19 PM
*sigh* Gerald Baker and the boys in leather loincloths..no matter HOW gay this woman LOVED IT!
labwrs on March 13, 2007 at 7:24 PM
If a movie makes money, Hollywood can always figure out how to make a sequel.
ScottMcC on March 13, 2007 at 7:45 PM
What the hell is with every 300 trailer having NIN music?! I’m sure Trent really approves, which I suppose does make me grin..
‘Tis a pity he recycled one scene twice in the video, though.
Reaps on March 13, 2007 at 7:54 PM
This movie was very abtastic.
emmaline1138 on March 13, 2007 at 8:05 PM
Haven’t had the chance yet, but I’m hoping to see it soon. I’ve seen all the trailers, extended trailer, etc.
I’ve noticed that there’s a general tendency among modern academics to discount the accomplishments of the ancients. There are those who, however implausibly, number the Persian army at less than 200,000, despite all accounts.
2 million is not impossible, given the resources Xerxes had at his command, and contemporary accounts list the “support staff” in extraordinary numbers. The 2 million included the naval forces as well.
There are no doubt many “inaccuracies,” but this is not being pushed as a documentary. I believe accurate history CAN be made into good cinema, but I don’t believe that’s the only kind of cinema.
Think of this movie as an emotional polemic, just coming from a different perspective than almost all Hollywood emotional polemics.
From what I’ve seen, I’m thoroughly on board with this style, and I would love to see a “prequel” about Marathon, an equally amazing battle.
To make the trilogy philosophical rather than historical, you could have the third movie about Salamis or Guagemala, or Artemisium.
In fact, the same kind of style could be adapted with great success with other similar battles such as Agincourt, Bannockburn, or for that matter Camerone (62 Legionnairs vs. 2000 Mexican troops), Rorke’s Drift (139 vs. 6000 Zulus), Long Tan (108 vs. 2500 NVA), Pervomaika (10 Russian GRU with light arms against 400+)…
Chosin, I think, hasn’t been movie-ized. SOmething like 13,000 US/Commonwealth troops against about 360,000 (22 divisions) Chinese troops in 1950. The US forces knocked 7 divisions completely out during that engagement.
The Warsaw Ghetto uprising would make a great movie.
Merovign on March 13, 2007 at 8:57 PM
Why didn’t I think of it!
Valley of Tears – October 9-10, 1973. Avigdor Kahalani’s 77 Regiment of the 7th Armoured Brigade, North Israel.
Turned back a force of 1200 Syrian armored vehicles. By the end, the Syrians, with Russian night-vision equipment the Israelis didn’t have, stormed the Israelis at night. The Israelis ended up in close combat – in tanks at extreme close range. Their superior mobility allowed them to hit the Syrian tanks in their vulnerable rears AFTER the Syrians had broken through the lines.
On the last day, the Israelis had six tanks left, and the Syrians were about to wipe them out – but 15 more Israeli tanks roared onto the battlefield. The Syrians assumed they were the first of many reinforcements and withdrew, but in fact they had been repaired behind the lines and were being brought back into service by volunteered and injured soldiers.
At that moment, those men were the last line of defense in Northern Israel, and the Syrian miscalculation may have actually saved Israel.
That’s the way the story was told to me, anyway. Make a great movie! Close Tank Combat!
Merovign on March 13, 2007 at 9:20 PM
FYI, Zulu (1964) is an excellent movie about the Battle of Rorke’s Drift.
(Zulu Dawn (1979) was actually the “prequel” about the disastrous Battle of Isandlwana. Disastrous for the British, and only a Pyrrhic victory for the Zulus.)
ReubenJCogburn on March 13, 2007 at 9:40 PM
The fall of Constantinople! 7000 vs. 100000.
Malta – 6000 vs 48000.
Plataea was a tremendous greek victory, and the Spartans put their full force into effect there, but it was such an overwhelming victory that it seemed almost anticlimactic. Historians doubt the numbers again, but the “dramatic” numbers were 110,000 Greeks vs. 300000 Persians. 159 Greeks were killed, 257,000 Persians.
Like I said, those are the “dramatic” numbers. Some say over a thousand Greeks perished, or there were less than 100,000 Persians, but the most consistent (if not always most accurate) reports trend toward larger Persian numbers.
The Persian survivors were set up by Alexander as they fled and nearly all were killed, pretty much ending Persia’s interest in Greece.
Part of Persia’s problem was – lightly armored, fast moving troops with light bows are GREAT in Persia and India against peasants and farmers.
But against heavily-armored Hoplites in any numbers, they’re like water over stone. It’s like small arms against tanks, the Persians had massive numbers, but not massive enough.
I’m probably over-emphasizing Spartans here, Athenians, Thespians, Corinthians, and many, many others fought and kicked enormous amounts of ass at Plataea.
Merovign on March 13, 2007 at 9:46 PM
Who says technology and training don’t win battles. When it comes to stabbing weapons, size matters. The Spartans had better armor and better/longer spears and swords. That plus the Persians were horrible tacticians more interested in pride than winning what should have been a mere skirmish. Though 300 takes liberties the essential truth remains that they did hold off the Persians and saved Greece. It’s like the Battle of Little Round Top during Ghettysburg. Can you say “leadership” boys and girls.
Mojave Mark on March 13, 2007 at 11:56 PM
Tim Burton on March 14, 2007 at 12:18 AM
Loved the movie, and I love the liberal squealing about it……….
“My gosh, fight for your freedom, you don’t say, how does my hair look, should I get my rectum bleached?”
See the movie, it will inspire the American inside of you!
PinkyBigglesworth on March 14, 2007 at 2:16 AM
“Only Spartan women give birth to men”- Queen Gorgo
If you want a
goodgreat book(novelization, but historically acurate) read Steven Pressfield’s Gates of FireIt is written from the POV of a “squire” who was among the Spartans.
I loved both this book and Miller’s. The movie is just freaking AWSOME as the kids these days would say.
TBinSTL on March 14, 2007 at 4:03 AM
Once, not all that long ago, the American Ralph Waldo Emerson was walking in the Scottish Highlands with the Brit Thomas Carlyle. Surveying the stern rocky landscape, Emerson asked what could possibly grow there. “Men”, replied Carlyle.
I haven’t seen 300 yet, but if it reawakens manhood among us, then I’ll take back every mean thought I’ve ever had about Hollywood. Well, some of them.
dhimwit on March 14, 2007 at 6:28 AM
The History Channel did a show called “The Last Stand of the 300″ recently and will likely be re-running it if anyone is interested in watching it. It gives a good historical background of the battle as well as what led up to it. Also, an interesting portrayal of the Spartan man’s life–gives you a good understanding of how these men came to fight to the death for freedom.
serpentineshel on March 14, 2007 at 9:55 AM
Support Our Spartans — Bring Them Home!
saint kansas on March 14, 2007 at 5:15 PM
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