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Me? I’ll stick with the source materials, thank you. George Washington said in his Farewell address:

“Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me, fellow-citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government. But that jealousy, to be useful, must be impartial, else it becomes the instrument of the very influence to be avoided, instead of a defense against it. Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive dislike of another cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people to surrender their interests.”

I’ll probably be branded “suspected and odious” for such heresy, but rather that than being allied with “tools” and “dupes.” What do you think Washington would have had to say in response to Bush?

I think he’d have asked him to resign.

In this particular instance there is no other interpretation than a call for violence. Say what you mean and mean what you say.

Bradky on March 14, 2007 at 3:34 PM

I did not say that I seek violence, nor did I say that violence is always warranted, however, there are are explicit, purposed and directed reasons where it is warranted. For example, in defending my life or the life of another human being.

Moreover, why do you assume that an individual in possession of a gun is a call to violence? There are many law abiding Americans that possess and carry them everyday, yet there is no blood bath in the streets from law abiding citizens. Perhaps if the Mexican citizens were armed, the violence would decline. Much like in areas where conceal and carry laws are passed in the U.S.

A gun is nothing more than a tool. If someone carries a book of matches, do you assume that they are an arsonist? If they carry a computer, do you assume they are a hacker? It boils down to the character of the individual in possession of the tool.

I’m of the opinion that Bush may actually think he’s helping Mexico and other cental and south American nations by taking in all their riff raff but I don’t think he understands that they’re exporting their socialist problems to el norte to keep the lid on at home.

Bradky on March 14, 2007 at 3:46 PM

So I guess that means you’re turning down my offer for free travel and a chance to save the world?

Bradky on March 14, 2007 at 1:39 PM

Are you sure of that? Are you sure that local elected officials can only be elected by citizens? Are you sure that illegal immigrants are not already granted the priviledge of voting?

“There is no way of checking,” said Maryland State Board of Elections Administrator Linda H. Lamone. “We have no way of doing that. We have no access to any information about who is in the United States legally or otherwise.”

Voting is for citizens only, right?Not exactly. It is not widely known that immigrants, or noncitizens, currently vote in local elections in over a half dozen cities and towns in the U.S.;
Democracy For All:
Restoring Immigrant Voting Rights in the U.S.
Ron Hayduk

Bradky on March 14, 2007 at 11:03 AM

Yes I read it, did you read my first group of comments regarding cleaning up the Mexican political mess first? Giving the Mexicans jobs at home does no good if the political thieves steal from them what they earn. We can reform our immigration laws, when Mexico reforms their polictical and economic mess.

Bradky on March 14, 2007 at 10:57 AM

Gregor, you seem to have some dyslexia as well — big difference between the above and

“violence is never the answer” approach?

Gregor on March 14, 2007 at 3:37 PM

Maybe we should send Bradky.

AZ_Redneck on March 14, 2007 at 3:29 PM

LOL! I’ve always had that philosophy. Send those like Bradky in and let them sort out the mess. I have the same theory with peace freaks who feel we can solve Islamic terror with “dialog.” I say give them all a Bible, fly them into Afghanistan, drop them in the middle of terror central, and point them in the direction of the Taliban. Let’s test their theory and see if they can have a peaceful discussion over tea, or whatever it is they drink over there.

Bradky, I’ll pay for your airfare if you’re willing to try to make a difference in the world. Or, are you not confident in your “violence is never the answer” approach?

Want to help the Mexicans fix their problems? Send the Mexican citizens guns.

AZ_Redneck on March 14, 2007 at 10:48 AM

In this particular instance there is no other interpretation than a call for violence. Say what you mean and mean what you say.
Revolution in Mexico means the illegal immigration problems we face today will be nothing compared to what refugees will mean — not to mention a legitimate claim for political asylum and legal status as a result.

If it wasn’t so complicated it would have already been solved.

I really don’t believe sending them guns will change anything. Not in a positive way anyway.

Gregor on March 14, 2007 at 12:11 PM

I believe free mean are armed, slaves aren’t, but in general, I agree with your statement. Kind of where I wanted to go w/ Bradky, but the day job happened.

They don’t want to learn how to fish, they want someone to fish for them. Maybe we should send Bradky.

Many in Mexico (not all Bradky), and unfortunately, an increasing condition in our own country, there are way too many that are just darn smug and happy being enslaved.

Violence is not the solution to everything.

Bradky on March 14, 2007 at 10:57 AM

Agreed. I never stated such action was a solution for everything, but history has shown such action has proven extremely effective in stopping little things like tyranny in the form of monarchies, communism, facsism, and the like. Recent history reveals that such action is also effective against terrorism (when such action is actually permitted). Such action has even enabled the environment for you to express your opinion freely and not face reprisal from the government (thank the Founding Fathers for their foresight and a veteran). In addition, such action is not for the double-minded, cowards.

Although given your fetish with killing and violence to solve all problems, a chance to let the nukes fly may be the only thing that gets your blood rushing to your nether regions.

Bradky on March 14, 2007 at 10:57 AM

Please don’t project your own insecurities on me. I don’t have a fetish for killing, nor am I a “let the nukes” fly proponent. However, I am not a pacifist either, and strongly believe that a government operates at the consent of the governed (contrary to how Mexico operates, and, unfortunately, a condition that the U.S. continues to approach). I believe that if you choose to continue in your current position, you should prepare to kiss the hand that will feed you one day.

[source, source, source] President Bush, working to rebuild strained U.S.-Mexico relations, promised Tuesday he would do his best to get……

Dodgeball! Which police agency are you a part of?

Bradky on March 14, 2007 at 2:55 PM

Just to satisfy your little liberal mind, I applied for the Contra Costa Sheriff Department immediately after completing my second term in the military. Unfortunately, I failed the eye exam that required applicants to have no worse than 20/300 vision.

I now work with several political activists, most recently on the immigration issue, and spend big chunks of my time organizing, attending, and covering physical protests. I am also currently working with a political action committee attempting to force the MPAA to add a new movie rating to include a warning of Homosexual content. All this, while also managing to work a full time job on the side and STILL finding it possible to have a good relationship with my family. I can only WISH I had more time to also keep up on my blogging, which has suffered miserably due to my physical activities.

This is why, if you were paying attention, you would have noticed my consistent harping on others to get involved physically instead of simply whining.

What have YOU done lately?

Gregor on March 14, 2007 at 2:39 PM

Dodgeball! Which police agency are you a part of?

Yep I’ll sleep like a baby knowing you are trying to change the world from behind a keyboard! Join law enforcement and become part of the solution. Oh wait, that means you have to sweat – never mind.

Bradky on March 14, 2007 at 1:36 PM

LOL! If you only knew Bradky. If you only knew. But then, having actual knowledge would change who you are.

It shows the type of person you are that you make comments such as that without having a clue who I am or what I do.

I can assure you that whenever possible, you can usually find me on the front lines. I made the choice long ago that I didn’t want to belong to the crowd who consistently whine about problems but then wait for others to solve them.

This isn’t actually true. Many states don’t ask for ID before you vote. They just assume you’re a citizen. No one actually knows the extent of voter fraud, but suffice it to say, it’s gotten a couple of congresswomen from CA elected.

PRCalDude on March 14, 2007 at 1:11 PM

What I stated is true – the question is “what is your suggested solution to fix the problems you noted?” I agree that the problems you pointed out do exist.

Gregor on March 14, 2007 at 1:23 PM

Yep I’ll sleep like a baby knowing you are trying to change the world from behind a keyboard!Join law enforcement and become part of the solution. Oh wait, that means you have to sweat – never mind.

“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.”
“The New Colossus,” Emma Lazarus

They soon will be adding a new sign to go around Lady Liberty’s neck. “No Vacancies.”

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/10837468/detail.html
So far;
What should be done about illegal immigrants living in California?
Choice Votes Percentage of 1249 Votes
A blanket amnesty 35 3%
A program letting those who have worked here for years stay and apply for citizenship 280 22%
Deport them 922 74%
Not sure 12 1%

Overreacting a wee bit aren’t you?

Bradky on March 14, 2007 at 12:56 PM

Right Bradky. Elected government officials attempting to allow non-citizens to vote and we should all just relax. Why? Because Bradky says it can’t happen. I feel all better now.

Of course, the Constitution also says we have the right to bear arms too, but that doesn’t change the fact that NY City and San Francisco managed to bypass that.

Current laws also state that it’s illegal for businesses to hire illegal aliens. Current laws also state that our elected government officials are required to enforce those laws.

So much for what the Constitution and Federal law require, huh?

When you see our current President following what to him seems to be ‘just a piece of paper’, you let me know. Until then, I’ll let you handle the sleeping.

The article you referenced said it hadn’t passed four years ago nor in San Francisco. There is also the pesky little thing called the constitution that defines who is allowed to vote — born in or naturalized yes, all others no. Even Legal aliens are not allowed to vote.

This isn’t actually true. Many states don’t ask for ID before you vote. They just assume you’re a citizen. No one actually knows the extent of voter fraud, but suffice it to say, it’s gotten a couple of congresswomen from CA elected.

That’s okay. They’ll be able to vote soon too. Our Muslim friend Keith Ellison is taking steps in Minnesota to give voting rights to his fellow Muslim immigrants without being citizens. How long before they vote in Sharia law?

What’s up in Minnesota? Has the entire country gone mad?

Gregor on March 14, 2007 at 11:44 AM

Overreacting a wee bit aren’t you?

The article you referenced said it hadn’t passed four years ago nor in San Francisco. There is also the pesky little thing called the constitution that defines who is allowed to vote — born in or naturalized yes, all others no. Even Legal aliens are not allowed to vote.

Somehow I don’t see this as even a remote threat — it would ultimately need to be ratified as an amendment to the constitution to be valid. The NOW amendment never made it to ratification and it had more traction by far.