Nutroots whining over Fox News’s Democratic debate reaches fever pitch

posted at 6:20 pm on March 8, 2007 by Allahpundit

It’s come to this.

As you know, the Nevada State Democratic Party has agreed to host a debate with FOX News that has caused some concern among some of our activist allies. Because FOX has such an editorial bias against Democrats, some of our allies believe that we should have chosen another media partner. Senator Reid shares some of these concerns and has asked us to take another look at the parameters of this debate in order to ensure that all Democrats are comfortable as we move forward…

In answer to these concerns, we have secured an agreement to invite KJFK radio, the local Air America affiliate, to air the event live and C-Span will be able to carry the debate twice in its entirety after the conclusion of FOX’s broadcast. Additionally, the Nevada Democratic Party has an agreement to invite a local progressive voice onto the debate panel.

We will also offer PolitcsTV.com the ability to carry the live FOX News web cast feed on its site for one-time viewing. If PoliticsTV agrees, this will give national viewers who do not wish to watch FOX the ability to watch the debate live while bolstering a progressive leaning organization.

Signed: Tom Collins, chairman of the Nevada Democratic Party. They mau-maued Fox into sharing coverage of the debate with nutroots-approved media sources just so that they wouldn’t have to dirty their filthy little hands by patronizing FNC for 90 minutes — even though they’re happy to patronize the network to find material for egregious smear jobs.

And to its eternal shame, instead of walking, Fox went for it.

The punchline? It’s still not good enough:

PoliticsTV.com has informed the Nevada Democratic Party that it cannot accept its invitation to webcast the August debate.

FOX News’ terms for PTV’s webcast are egregiously unfair and unbalanced.

FOX offered PTV a live feed, with the FOX branding and logo, without offering PTV any opportunity to use the content in any other way.

Worst of all, FOX demanded that PTV’s participation be via live webcast only, and that PTV not post any clips from the debate in archival or other form.

FYI, PoliticsTV used to be “DemsTV,” an online video outlet created by a guy who once famously dismissed this summer’s UK terror plot as propaganda cooked up to distract America from Ned Lamont’s primary victory. Update: Dan Manatt, executive producer of PoliticsTV, e-mails to say he and not John Aravosis founded the site. Never trust Wikipedia.

You can thank Silky Pony for giving this creepy, ideologically puritanical movement some media momentum. It was his firm, principled, anti-Fox “leadership” in pulling out of the debate that pushed this story into the news and put pressure on Reid (who scarcely needs encouragement in this area) to have the Nevada Dems revisit the terms of the debate.

Which brings us to our exit question: If this shameless, pandering jackass is such an inveterate Fox-hater, what was he doing on Hannity & Colmes six weeks ago after the State of the Union — his 33rd appearance on the network since August 2000?


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Which brings us to our exit question: If this shameless, pandering jackass is such an inveterate Fox-hater, what was he doing on Hannity & Colmes six weeks ago after the State of the Union — his 33rd appearance on the network since August 2000?

Easy… he wants to be seen. If he wanted to fade into obscurity but remain ideologically pure, he’d only appear on Olberman where no one would ever see him.

hindmost on March 8, 2007 at 6:38 PM

Well at least they’re consistent. Ideological purity is more important than people actually seeing the debate, I guess.

JasonG on March 8, 2007 at 6:40 PM

MSNBC is doing a Republican Presidential debate in Nov. Should it be boycotted if MSNBC does not get some actual viewers? Should the candidates threaten a boycott to get KO on or off the panel?

rw on March 8, 2007 at 6:41 PM

Does this mean that when the Republicans have a debate, they can walk out on it, if its on any MSM channel, because of the MSM’s obvious liberal bias??

mrfixit on March 8, 2007 at 6:42 PM

Fox makes the democrats uncomfortable? That can only be a good thing. Fox should host ALL the debates!

BTW, why do the liberals object to hosting debates on Fox yet tune in by the millions when the Super Bowl is on? Isn’t Fox New and Fox TV both owned by the same people? One would think that the liberals would boycott all of Fox, and not just some of the news programs.

RedinBlueCounty on March 8, 2007 at 6:46 PM

If they think that’s unfair, they should talk to the NFL. At least we are allowed to talk about the debat.

- The Cat

P.S. HotAir webcast? :)

MirCat on March 8, 2007 at 6:48 PM

In answer to these concerns, we have secured an agreement to invite KJFK radio, the local Air America affiliate, to air the event live….

That’s just one step up from having it covered by the Thrifty Nickel.

SailorDave on March 8, 2007 at 6:49 PM

I love the screencap on the main page. It looks like he’s channeling that little girl in a trial again.

see-dubya on March 8, 2007 at 6:54 PM

Boy, the whole far left is calling the waaahhhhhhmbulance!

And Hillary and Obama are playing street-racing chicken to see if the other will bail from this. Both war rooms are sweating: “We should back out and dis Fox and the right – but if we do we’ll look scared – but if the other one backs out and we stay in we’ll look strong – but if we stay Kos’ll think we won’t stand up to the right, but if….”

eeyore on March 8, 2007 at 6:54 PM

Today’s left has nothing to offer beyond whining and smears. Oh, and stalking, violence against conservatives in their homes, and anti-war agitation that helps terrorists. Oh, and tax increases, document theft and serial lying about the war and its origins.

I may have left out one or two other things the left has to offer.

Bryan on March 8, 2007 at 6:59 PM

If Fox had the balls they would walk!

Wade on March 8, 2007 at 7:03 PM

I love how, when Hannity question him, he stumbles, has no answer, and appears unsure.

amerpundit on March 8, 2007 at 7:03 PM

Wow, he went through the public school systems, and know what its like to be the rest of us schmucks! (Dazy look) My Hero…

amerpundit on March 8, 2007 at 7:05 PM

It looks like he’s channeling that little girl in a trial again.
see-dubya on March 8, 2007 at 6:54 PM

That, or he’s closing his eyes and going “uhhhhh….” desparately thinking, since he just been asked a question that’s not on the talking points.

eeyore on March 8, 2007 at 7:05 PM

The John Edwards Support Group should be able to make the poor, uncoooommmmfffortable left feel better.

But seriously, 33 times featured on FNC and now, suddenly, it’s a big deal?? What a farce.

NTWR on March 8, 2007 at 7:06 PM

Now Bryan, let’s not forget that they make wonderful tin foil hats, too.

amerpundit on March 8, 2007 at 7:06 PM

the groupthink of the left at work. similar to our other enemies, the islamist.

http://clarityandresolve.com/cbs_ameristan.jpg

jp on March 8, 2007 at 7:07 PM

Somewhere, a tall, thin, blonde woman is chuckling.

JackStraw on March 8, 2007 at 7:12 PM

And Harry Reid jumping into the fray?? Hey, did you know that guy’s a Mormon?? OOOooh alert the media. Wait, only conservative Mormons get scrutinized, I forgot…

NTWR on March 8, 2007 at 7:13 PM

And to its eternal shame, instead of walking, Fox went for it.

Shame indeed, but ratings-hungry.

The nutties will already vote for them. They have to go to Fox if they wish conversion. Though, if anyone who regularly watches Fox converts to them, they’re also coconutty.

Yes, Bryan, you left out dismay for: own country, the Soldiers, sinners, minorities, gays, women, Christians (unless they’re liberal). And how could you have left out the blatant hypocrisy of Messrs Gore and Edwards, et company, for so many reasons, Two Americas being the most obvious. And never to forget elitist superiority toward those they claim to protect, and instead subjugate and keep ‘down’ for the sake of having enough constituents.

Entelechy on March 8, 2007 at 7:13 PM

“shameless pandering jackass” is acceptable and “faggot” is not?

mikeyboss on March 8, 2007 at 7:16 PM

GOP should give Fox News exclusive coverage of all debates. The other cable nets can f*ck off! No one watches them anyway.

roninacreage on March 8, 2007 at 7:21 PM

And to its eternal shame, instead of walking, Fox went for it.

To their eternal shame? Heh. Please.

Kralizec on March 8, 2007 at 7:22 PM

Wow Edwards seems so centrist there. If if he could have stuck with that he might of been viable instead of diving off the moonbat cliff. Sad.

aengus on March 8, 2007 at 7:25 PM

I feel dirty after listening to that…

x95b10 on March 8, 2007 at 7:26 PM

“shameless pandering jackass” is acceptable and “faggot” is not?

mikeyboss on March 8, 2007 at 7:16 PM

New rule: You can call anybody anything you like. Except me. I am “Kralizec,” or “Mr. Kralizec.” It is so ordered. I hope we can consider the matter of name-calling settled now.

Kralizec on March 8, 2007 at 7:28 PM

“shameless pandering jackass” is acceptable and “faggot” is not?

Uh, yeah. “Faggot” is specifically offensive to gay people. I thought this was covered on an earlier thread?

aengus on March 8, 2007 at 7:28 PM

What a pansy…

SouthernGent on March 8, 2007 at 7:36 PM

That’s just one step up from having it covered by the Thrifty Nickel.

Oh man – I think I sprained something, laughing so hard…gasp.

major john on March 8, 2007 at 7:42 PM

Hilarity ensues!

Metro on March 8, 2007 at 7:48 PM

I may have left out one or two other things the left has to offer.

Bryan on March 8, 2007 at 6:59 PM

Offsets. How could you? You left out offsets.

CyberCipher on March 8, 2007 at 8:31 PM

And how brave of the video poster disabling comments but leaving up a link to her blog post.

P.S. Eddie boy? Bull Sh## about economic growth only among the rich. Since Bush took office and gave us all those tax cuts, I paid off 2 credit cards and am on my way to paying the 3rd. My own bank offered me a credit line equal to all the other cards I paid off based on my financial merit alone since 2001.. (I haven’t accepted the card, tho) Funy, though… I noticed that all fothese dimpcrap canidates that think things are soooo bad “play” with more money than I make in a year in a shady transaction.

Mazztek on March 8, 2007 at 8:38 PM

I’ve came from not having much to having a lot. Uh, Um, throughout my entire life, I’ve taken advantage of, of America!

There’s an understatement if I’ve ever heard one…

thesheesh on March 8, 2007 at 8:44 PM

Between Alan and Silky Pony…….. I have to wipe the liberal ooze off of my screen……. what a pair of jack asses!

PinkyBigglesworth on March 8, 2007 at 9:02 PM

Isn’t the point of a political debate to convince people who might not vote for you to vote for you? What an idiot.

foxforce91 on March 8, 2007 at 9:36 PM

You can thank Silky Pony for giving this creepy, ideologically puritanical movement some media momentum.

The Breck Girl has just reserved hisorher seat on the Lamont Express to oblivion.

smellthecoffee on March 8, 2007 at 10:02 PM

Fox should honor little lord flauntery’s wishes and simply…never…mention…his…name…again on Fox. heh heh, that’d serve him right…

JustTruth101 on March 8, 2007 at 10:53 PM

Let’s see if I get this…..

Nevada is a CONSERVATIVE, GUN-LOVING, red-neck state. And most of the Democrats are somewhat to the right of Vladimir Lenin.

The Democrats in the state want to nominate a candidate that can carry Nevada in the general election.

So, they chose FOX News, to carry the debate to THEIR Democratic Party constituents, ’cause they’re watching Fox anyway.

Silk phony Pony objects and says he won’t participate because Fox is going to carry the debate. Queston: How’s he going to win Nevada in the primary, then? How’s he going to convince moderate/conservative Democrats in Nevada to vote for him?

Edwards is more stupid that I thought. How did he ever pass the bar exam?

georgej on March 9, 2007 at 2:02 AM

What a pansy…

SouthernGent on March 8, 2007 at 7:36 PM

SG, the flowers in my yard are offended.

Seriously, who gives a rats ass whether Edwards shows up or not. If he does, he’ll get outclassed by the other Dem candidates. If he doesn’t they’ll roast him alive as a coward. Lose-lose for the pony.

We should be thanking Reid though. He just made it ok for Republican candidates to “take another look at the parameters of this debate in order to ensure that all Democrats Republicans are comfortable as we move forward…” Sorry CBS. No debates for you.

BacaDog on March 9, 2007 at 8:23 AM

Uh, yeah. “Faggot” is specifically offensive to gay people. I thought this was covered on an earlier thread?

aengus on March 8, 2007 at 7:28 PM

Yeah, especially when the use is taken out of context, right? Which also has been explained many times in many threads. Keep carrying the liberals PC water.

csdeven on March 9, 2007 at 8:44 AM

I may have left out one or two other things the left has to offer.

Bryan on March 8, 2007 at 6:59 PM

You left out TP and Tums

bones47 on March 9, 2007 at 9:44 AM

Cry foul before the firing even starts…isn’t that a page from their playbook?

budorob on March 9, 2007 at 10:24 AM