Libby and labels

posted at 3:49 pm on March 7, 2007 by Bryan

Over at Plame Central, a pertinent comment from the gallery:

Can you imagine if the reverse was true? Say one of the jurors in the Clinton’s perjury trial (that of course, never happened–but certainly should have) was a writer for human Events or the Weekly Standard and a registered Republican, and after the guilty verdict, he immediately posted a 10,000 word opus on the trial on, say, lucianne.com or Hotair.com.

What do you think the left’s reaction would be?

What indeed. Juror Denis Collins, an obvious and admitted DC partisan, gives a press conference immediately after convicting Scotter Libby on four of five counts and then barfs up a 7,900 word essay about the trial, available only on a screechy anti-Bush blog.

Flip the parties and put that blog post, say, here, and what sort of email would we get about that? I guarantee you that we would have to pick up Hot Air Central and relocate to the Far East to escape the wrath of our gentle friends on the left. The verdict itself would become yet another bloody shirt thrown in the faces of the entire conservative movement for years to come. Some judge or other would take up the appeal and wipe the trial away.

There is something deeply rotten about trying a man for misremembering things about a crime he did not commit, because it never occurred. There is something deeply rotten in a country that lets proven liars like the Wilsons walk scott free to continue to undermine a war in progress, while Libby winds up facing jail time. Their nepotistic junket to Niger and Wilson’s subsequent misreporting of that trip are a far greater crime against the country than anything Libby did. There is something deeply rotten in a country that lets Sandy Berger go, but puts Mr. Libby behind bars.

This was a rotten trial with a rotten verdict. Our justice system appears to be falling apart.

More: David Frum has a vivid imagination. His scenario would not, could not, happen.

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Yup

Lonevoice on March 7, 2007 at 3:52 PM

Why are libs so long winded and ultimately say nothing?

jp on March 7, 2007 at 3:53 PM

This all reminds me of Orson Scott Card’s interview that was linked on here awhile back in which he talked in depth about the dangers of groupthink and how that is exactly what the left are doing to themselves.

jp on March 7, 2007 at 3:54 PM

There are some lawyer types who hang around here. Can this be grounds for an appeal?

Slublog on March 7, 2007 at 3:55 PM

I’d seek a new trial based on ineffectiveness of council. How did this guy get on the jury? It’s an outrage.

TheBigOldDog on March 7, 2007 at 3:55 PM

There is something deeply rotten in a country that lets Sandy Berger go, but puts Mr. Libby behind bars.
This was a rotten trial with a rotten verdict. Our justice system appears to be falling apart.

Why wasn’t Sandy Burglar nailed to the wall?

Why has this question never been answered (or even asked)?

PinkyBigglesworth on March 7, 2007 at 3:59 PM

This was a rotten trial with a rotten verdict. Our justice system appears to be falling apart.

It’s not a bad legal system, just bad lawyering. Libby got extremely crappy legal advice. Now, he’s a convicted felon.

Good question re: the wierd juror. Are his actions grounds for appeal?

BacaDog on March 7, 2007 at 4:02 PM

There is something deeply rotten in a country that lets Sandy Berger go, but puts Mr. Libby behind bars.

Deeply, deeply rotten.

Citizen Duck on March 7, 2007 at 4:03 PM

Yup

Lonevoice on March 7, 2007 at 3:52 PM

Yup

Lawrence on March 7, 2007 at 4:19 PM

How did juror Denis Collins get by Libby’s lawyer? Did he lie to remain on the jury? Grounds for a mistrial?

db on March 7, 2007 at 4:25 PM

You can be sure that Juror Collins’ article will be reviewed closely by Libby’s defense counsel and quoted extensively in Libby’s Motion for a New Trial.

slp on March 7, 2007 at 4:28 PM

the top of the hour radio news from the AP this AM was so wrong on this it was amazing, then they gave 15 seconds to Joe Wilson to whine about his “covert wife”.

What a bunch of crap.

benrand on March 7, 2007 at 4:29 PM

Pinky…The question has been asked a 1000 times but nobody in the Executive Branch or the Justice Department will answer the question or even admit that there is a question. I have given up on the Bush White House on a number of fronts this being one and the border being another…If you get an answer anywhere, please post it.

DoctorDentons on March 7, 2007 at 4:31 PM

There is something deeply rotten in allowing a juror to write a story about the trial as the trial in going on. There is no way he wrote that piece in less than 24 hours following the verdict. It appears as though he has been working on it for weeks.

bopbottle on March 7, 2007 at 4:36 PM

This was a rotten trial with a rotten verdict. Our justice system appears to be falling have fallen apart.

Fixed it for ya.

I have absolutely no faith in our “justice” system at this point, given the abuses I’ve seen from prosecutors lately and their willingness to lie in public.

Fitzgerald openly and knowingly lied at his press conference announcing the indictment when he stated that Libby was the first to release Plame’s name to a reporter, when he knew that it was Richard Armitage. And he then was allowed in his closing argument to politicize the case and go beyond the scope by a judge who straitjacketed the defense and prevented a fair trial. He could redeem himself by throwing this verdict out, but that’s less likely than the Arizona Cardinals winning the next 10 Super Bowls in a row.

Next we have Mike Nifong, who not only lied to the public, but knowingly lied to a judge about exculpatory evidence. While he deserves hard time in a federal pound-me-in-the-azz prison, he’ll probably get a slap on the wrist, and maybe, maybe disbarred. Meanwhile, 3 innocent Duke lacrosse players have had their lives turned upside down.

And we also have Johnny Sutton. While the guys he prosecuted weren’t totally innocent of all wrongdoing, clearly Sutton’s prosecutorial discretion was excercised in a manner where he threw the book at two border patrol agents while making no effort to prosecute a known drug dealer. We know now that there was a second incident involving the smuggler that was shot and the DEA even recommended indictment. Did it happen? No. But the indictment of the border patrol agents did, along with another sherrif in TX (also by Sutton’s team) and yet another border patrol agent who’s conviction was overturned and was exonerated on re-trial after the prosecution withheld exculpatory evidence. And Sutton made several misleading statement in his so-called “fact” sheet as the trial transcripts have now revealed.

So we have prosecutors excercising their discretion according to their own ambitions and their own political whims, all while lying to the public which they are supposed to represent, and in Nifong’s case, brazenly lying to a judge while suppressing exculpatory evidence. Tell me again why I should trust our system of “justice”?

In Discourse on Livy, Machiavelli writes that “False accusations are as harmful to a republic as public indictments are useful”. And now we have several contemporary examples that illustrate that thought perfectly.

thirteen28 on March 7, 2007 at 4:37 PM

Great post Bryan.

There is something deeply rotten about trying a man for misremembering things about a crime he did not commit, because it never occurred. There is something deeply rotten in a country that lets proven liars like the Wilsons walk scott free to continue to undermine a war in progress, while Libby winds up facing jail time. Their nepotistic junket to Niger and Wilson’s subsequent misreporting of that trip are a far greater crime against the country than anything Libby did. There is something deeply rotten in a country that lets Sandy Berger go, but puts Mr. Libby behind bars.

Glad I’m not the only one who’s feeling like this lately. I’m almost tempted to say our side should take on the role as the new “I hate America crowd”. Not because we hate the history, etc. But because we hate what it’s become. We’ve been handed one example after another for the past few years of reasons to dislike this country. I know, that’s not right for our side to say.. but we aren’t headed anywhere good right now, and this Libby thing is just disgusting, especially considering the majority of the public is under the impression there was anything to be leaked, that there was a leak, that it was done by Libby who was ordered by the White House. None of that is true, but this is what everyone thinks. Everyone can sit and say there are ways around the liberal media, but it’s time to get real. We’re screwed.

RightWinged on March 7, 2007 at 4:44 PM

I’m sure his legal team finds this news very… appealing.

Jim Treacher on March 7, 2007 at 4:51 PM

I’m so mad I’m shaking. Shouldn’t this alone make it a mistrial? And why is NOTHING being done about Sandy Burlgar and William Jefferson? Why are we so nice about these things? The gloves have to come off NOW.

foxforce91 on March 7, 2007 at 4:54 PM

I’m sure his legal team finds this news very… appealing.

Jim Treacher on March 7, 2007 at 4:51 PM

I hope so. I hope this can be used in some way. Hell, this clown came straight out of the courtroom saying that they wished it hadn’t been Libby, he was a fall guy, and they wished it had been Rove and “other guys”… WTF?! What kind of jury was this? I’m not a legal expert, but haven’t we heard enough that there should be serious grounds for overturning this thing or something, based on the clear bias of this jury.

I didn’t know about the HuffPo post until this HotAir post… Can the judge not be forced to see what a rabidly left partisan site the Huffington Post is, investigate what type of deranged BDS audience it plays to, and recognize that this guy ran straight to that site to do this write-up? Can’t they be forced to consider his comments immediately following his leaving the courthouse? This whole thing is just disgusting.

RightWinged on March 7, 2007 at 4:58 PM

I’m sure his legal team finds this news very… appealing.

Jim Treacher on March 7, 2007 at 4:51 PM

In a sane and somewhat just world, it would seem like this would be grounds for appeal or mistrial, as it raises serious questions as to whether or not Libby received a fair trial.

But we live in a world that is neither sane nor just, and the sooner we stop expecting it to be so, the better off we’ll be.

thirteen28 on March 7, 2007 at 5:02 PM

Bleh, we’ve been setting ourselves up for this since ’94. We keep bringing nerf bats to gun fights. Sure, we’re pretty skilled with our hot pink sponge bludgeons, but they still have the advantage of well, shooting us in the face.

Libby is screwed. His only chance of not getting introduced to Bubba McRapist is a full presidential pardon, and it’s doubtful Bush has the stones to do that. At least we’ll feel good about ourselves for being so diplomatic.

New tone, FTW.

spmat on March 7, 2007 at 5:33 PM

It’s not just a matter of bringing nerf bats to gun fights. People who are nominally on “our side” are parroting the same old tired propaganda that Plame was covert and that Libby was responsible for exposing her. If Bill O’Reilly could have heard what I replied to his talking points memo last night, his ears would have blistered. I normally turn off the news at 6:59, and his BS is the reason why.

Laura on March 7, 2007 at 6:11 PM

It’s not just a matter of bringing nerf bats to gun fights. People who are nominally on “our side” are parroting the same old tired propaganda that Plame was covert and that Libby was responsible for exposing her. If Bill O’Reilly could have heard what I replied to his talking points memo last night, his ears would have blistered. I normally turn off the news at 6:59, and his BS is the reason why.

Laura on March 7, 2007 at 6:11 PM

Very true. Many even on “our side” so to speak have very short attention spans and can’t be bothered to actually look at the facts of the case. Instead, they just spew the same old DNC talking points as our liberal trolls here.

thirteen28 on March 7, 2007 at 6:18 PM

Twenty+ posts into a thread about prosecutorial misconduct and Ronnie Earle hasn’t even been mentioned yet.

That is how bad it is.

B Moe on March 7, 2007 at 6:20 PM

Susan Estrich has a rediculous editorial up on Foxnews saying he should go to jail because it is worse then what Clinton did. Lets see Clinton lied under oath on the stand in court. Libby cant remeber or gave wrong info to investigators. T thought she was supposed to be a credible legal expert?

Resolute on March 7, 2007 at 6:20 PM

Rush was hopping mad about this… how did he put it? Libby was found guilty for telling the truth then lying about it…

Zorro on March 7, 2007 at 6:21 PM

Twenty+ posts into a thread about prosecutorial misconduct and Ronnie Earle hasn’t even been mentioned yet.

Ronnie Earle and his filmmaking sidekick Jim Schermbeck are a whole other, but relevant, kettle of fish.

Bryan on March 7, 2007 at 6:28 PM

Susan Estrich has a rediculous editorial up on Foxnews saying he should go to jail because it is worse then what Clinton did. Lets see Clinton lied under oath on the stand in court. Libby cant remeber or gave wrong info to investigators. T thought she was supposed to be a credible legal expert?

Resolute on March 7, 2007 at 6:20 PM

Susan Estrogen is an untamed old shrew. Her best claim to fame was running the Dukakis campaign and snatching defeat from the jaws of what appeared to be a sure victory. Consider that when evaluating anything that comes out of her mouth.

Good call on Ronnie Earle above – can’t believe I forgot that one and I live in the same county. And Earle’s misconduct on the Delay case wasn’t his first – he did the same with Kay Baily Hutchison back in the 90′s. Luckily, the trial went before a judge with some common sense and he ordered an acquittal on the first day of the trial.

thirteen28 on March 7, 2007 at 6:44 PM

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=19720

Miss Coulter’s article here is rather well written. That is my opinion. Take a read.

Zetterson on March 7, 2007 at 6:55 PM

Everyone – What did you have for lunch last Wednesday? If you don’t rememer exactly, you’re facing 25 years in jail.

RightWinged on March 7, 2007 at 7:05 PM

Why do I have a feeling Mr. Collins had a major, major influence on the rest of the jury?

Have we heard from any other jurors, yet?

reaganaut on March 7, 2007 at 7:08 PM

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=19720

Miss Coulter’s article here is rather well written. That is my opinion. Take a read.

Zetterson on March 7, 2007 at 6:55 PM

A lot of people won’t even read that because of the controversy over what she said at CPAC. They’ll be poorer for it too, because this column is dead on target in every respect.

thirteen28 on March 7, 2007 at 7:12 PM

This makes it official: It’s illegal to be Republican.

Hey Republican leaders, don’t you think it’s time to fight back?

Republican leaders?

Crickets Chirping………

PinkyBigglesworth on March 7, 2007 at 7:20 PM

That column of Coulter’s is a gem, right on the money. And it would be taken much more seriously if she hadn’t bombed the GOP hopefuls at CPAC last week.

Bryan on March 7, 2007 at 7:29 PM

Hey Republican leaders, don’t you think it’s time to fight back?

Republican leaders?

Crickets Chirping………

PinkyBigglesworth on March 7, 2007 at 7:20 PM

In the present state of affairs, the term Republican Leaders is an oxymoron.

thirteen28 on March 7, 2007 at 7:31 PM

Yes, thirteen28, it was an excellent piece and thanks, Zetterson for the link!
Be it Tom Delay, Rush or Libby, Dem prosecutors and judges have been using their positions in the legal system to accomplish their own political goals, usually resulting in a witch hunt and a show trial of a Republican, as we were treated to yesterday.
The U.S. used to have just about the fairest judicial system in the world, now it’s beginning to resemble the Soviet Union’s–something’s gotta give.
I’m giving money to the Libby defense fund–this must not stand.

Jen the Neocon on March 7, 2007 at 7:33 PM

DRUDGE FLASH: JUROR WANTS LIBBY PARDONED!!!

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash1.htm

LIBBY JUROR: PARDON HIM
Wed Mar 07 2007 19:21:48 ET

MSNBC host Chris Matthews spoke with Libby juror Ann Redington on HARDBALL. Juror [#10] says she would support a Bush pardon for Libby.

Transcript:

Chris: You’re for a pardon out of sympathy for the defendant.

Ann: Yeah, I think in the big picture, um, it kind of bothers me that there was this whole big crime being investigated and he got caught up in the investigation as opposed to in the actual crime that was supposedly committed.

Chris: Which is the leaking of a CIA agents name.

Ann: Exactly.

End

Developing…

RightWinged on March 7, 2007 at 7:57 PM

Everyone – What did you have for lunch last Wednesday? If you don’t rememer exactly, you’re facing 25 years in jail.

Chili and cornbread from a restaurant run by a couple of monks.

Woo hoo! No jail for me!

Of course, that’s what I eat almost every Wednesday for lunch, since it’s chili and cornbread day.

Slublog on March 7, 2007 at 7:57 PM

Chili and cornbread from a restaurant run by a couple of monks.

Woo hoo! No jail for me!

Of course, that’s what I eat almost every Wednesday for lunch, since it’s chili and cornbread day.

Slublog on March 7, 2007 at 7:57 PM

Haha, I suspected there are a few people who have a certain regular schedule for meals on a given day of the week… for a while I ate Peking Duck (best Chinese ever) every Friday night… Sweet and Sour Chicken and Pork Fried Rice… outside of that, even though I only eat a handful of different things, once 3 or 4 days have gone by, I generally don’t remember what I ate on exactly which day. I could guess and be pretty close probably, but a day off and stir fry gets confused with PB&J. You get my point anyway right?

RightWinged on March 7, 2007 at 8:03 PM

… btw, if you’re ever in the Burlington area I highly recommend them, and just found out they have a web site http://www.pekingduckhousevt.com/

RightWinged on March 7, 2007 at 8:05 PM

You get my point anyway right?

Absolutely. I think what bothers me most is that suddenly, perjury is a bad thing again.

Slublog on March 7, 2007 at 8:06 PM

Good prices in that place. Next time I’m visiting the liberal relatives in Essex Junction, I’ll have to look for the place.

Thanks for the tip.

I’d give you a web address for the Friar’s Bakehouse here in town, but they have no website. They don’t even allow cell phones in the restaurant.

Which is awesome.

Slublog on March 7, 2007 at 8:09 PM

They loaded the jury pool.

Defense (and likewise prosecution) have a limited amount of jurors that they can decline.

There were members of moveon.org, things like that, and the defense declined them.

When they got to this jerk journalist, their number of picks had run out.

And that’s how you stack a jury.

.

The Machine on March 7, 2007 at 8:15 PM

Well the problem is that a normal person doesn’t remember exactly what they at or wore on a specific day, a few days after the fact, but Libby faces 25 years for not remembering exactly how a bunch of conversations, mixed in with hundreds of others went down, months after the fact, when the investigation shouldn’t have even occured given that Fitzgerald already knew the “leaker” of a non-covert agent, making the term “leak” stupid in the first place. The best thing a lib might be able to say is “well if he wasn’t lying, he should have just said ‘I can’t remember’”, my problem with that is that he probably thought he did remember, and wanted to answer questions to the best of his ability so as not to look like he had something to hide.

Yesterday I made the point that even with little things in my family, at least once a week someone will bring something up in conversation and say “well you told me xyz”, and the other person will say “no I didn’t, I’ve never eve heard that before, I couldn’t have” or “no I didn’t, you are the one who told me”, etc. etc. With any number of similar variations. And I think that’s rather ordinary. Hell, just today my cousin was shopping around for an affordable framing shop to fram his new Michael Jordan “Wings” poster… I remembered a couple years ago being with someone who bought one, and I was about to suggest that it was another cousin and he was like “no, that was me.. but that one got beat up because I never framed it”. Everyone I know is apparently facing multiple life sentences.

RightWinged on March 7, 2007 at 8:16 PM

Glad I’m not the only one who’s feeling like this lately. I’m almost tempted to say our side should take on the role as the new “I hate America crowd”. Not because we hate the history, etc. But because we hate what it’s become. We’ve been handed one example after another for the past few years of reasons to dislike this country. I know, that’s not right for our side to say.. but we aren’t headed anywhere good right now…RightWinged on March 7, 2007 at 4:44 PM

Don’t give up. That’s what they’re hoping for. Just like the Islamists hope to beat us into submission. Our side doesn’t hate America. We are it’s only hope. We hate that liberalism has caused the retardation and ignorance of 2/3 of a generation…maybe more.

Connie on March 7, 2007 at 8:32 PM

Everyone I know is apparently facing multiple life sentences.

You hang out with a rough crowd.

Seriously, though, I’m not sure saying “I don’t remember” would have helped Libby at all. Fitz wanted a conviction, and he got one.

Maybe it’s time to resurrect an old Clinton-era question: how much is this investigation, with one conviction on a charge not related to the original investigation, costing us?

Slublog on March 7, 2007 at 8:32 PM

Ahhhhhh,

I long for the good old days when Lying was OK….

PinkyBigglesworth on March 7, 2007 at 8:33 PM

The U.S. used to have just about the fairest judicial system in the world … Jen the Neocon on March 7, 2007 at 7:33 PM

That was back when Common Sense was still legal.

Connie on March 7, 2007 at 8:37 PM

Donations received from lawyers/law firms in 2006:

Democrats – $84M
Republicans – $34M

Donations received from TV/Music/Movie industry in 2006:

Democrats – $14M
Republicans – $8M

The media and the justice system is run by Democrats. Sorry Libby, the deck was stacked, better luck next time. By that I mean answer “I don’t remember” to every damn question you are asked, and never let the FBI interview you without recording the interview. Lessons for the week.

Seixon on March 7, 2007 at 8:50 PM

Bad deal or no, politicians are viewed as liars and when Libby looked like a liar, he was then convicted of being a liar. No surprise here.

But who really cares? I don’t. Live by politicing, die by politicing.

He’ll eventually be exonerated (somehow) and he’ll do a book. It’s all good.

csdeven on March 7, 2007 at 8:50 PM

csdeven, it’s not all good–Libby was tried as the literal scapegoat for the Bush Administration and the Enemedia have touted his conviction as “proof” that Bush lied us into war, using the pretext of Saddam’s WMDs…they’ll go after Cheney and Bush next.
The Left thinks that Libby is the “John Dean” of the Bush Administration and that his guilty verdict will lead them right to the Oval Office to the elaborate “coverup” BushCo invented to make this go away, because Joe Wilson and his Barbie doll wife are patriotic “whistleblowers,” and speakers of truthiness to power.
Well, if they think this cr*ppy little kangaroo court conviction of Libby is their
“smoking gun” to bring down Bush and his fine team, they have another think coming!
I’m hopping mad and ready to fight and just donated $50 to the Libby Defense Fund!

Jen the Neocon on March 7, 2007 at 10:28 PM

Jen the Neocon on March 7, 2007 at 10:28 PM

I didn’t really think it out that far. I am just sooooo sick of all the crapola, and there isn’t much I can do about Libby. I am just getting so sick of stupid conservatives. They sit around on their high horses waiting for God to reward them and change all the liberals into people with souls.

csdeven on March 8, 2007 at 12:36 AM

On Fox’s “Hannity & Colmes” Tuesday night, super-lawyer David Boies said Fitzgerald never should have prosecuted Libby because there was no underlying criminal violation. Boies scoffed at Fitzgerald’s contention that Libby had obstructed him from exposing criminal activity. Boies, who represented Al Gore in the 2000 election dispute, is hardly a Bush sympathizer. But neither is he a Democratic partisan trying to milk this obscure scandal.

George W. Bush lost control of this issue when he permitted a special prosecutor to make decisions that, unlike going after a drug dealer or mafia kingpin, turned out to be inherently political. It would have taken courage for the president to have aborted this process. It would require even more courage for him to pardon Scooter Libby now, not while he is walking out of the White House in January 2009.

Entelechy on March 8, 2007 at 1:09 AM

But Scooter Libby is facing real prison time for forgetting who told him about some bozo’s wife.

Vintage Ann. A superb article.

Entelechy on March 8, 2007 at 1:19 AM

One more thing – the “bozo” and his pretty are moving to Santa Fe. Pity – it’s such a beautiful place – but, heh, full of rich/famous primadonas.

Entelechy on March 8, 2007 at 1:23 AM

Everyone – What did you have for lunch last Wednesday? If you don’t rememer exactly, you’re facing 25 years in jail.

RightWinged on March 7, 2007 at 7:05 PM

I had lunch at The Hardrock with my sister in law. (I know this because I keep a calendar on my blackberry. Guess this high falutin’ technology hasn’t gotten to the White House yet, huh?)

honora on March 8, 2007 at 10:02 AM

RE above, sorry, thought you said where. What? I had the pork sandwich.

honora on March 8, 2007 at 10:10 AM

I had lunch at The Hardrock with my sister in law. (I know this because I keep a calendar on my blackberry. Guess this high falutin’ technology hasn’t gotten to the White House yet, huh?)

honora on March 8, 2007 at 10:02 AM

Yeah honora, because everyone in the White House with a blackberry has a full time stenographer taking down the details of each of the dozens if not hundreds of conversations everyone they talk to. And to be clear, you don’t “remember”, you have a record. If Libby had a “record” of his conversations, he might not have trouble remembering a few specific and at the time insignificant brief conversations months down the line. Keep in mind that those who testified had the same memory problems (most notably, the supposedly biggest witness Russert who told conflicting accounts to the FBI and the Grand Jury). Great you’re keeping a digital paper trail on yourself, but you’re the exception not the rule. Don’t play like your record keeping invalidates the valid point you know I was making.

RightWinged on March 8, 2007 at 12:03 PM

Chuck Schumer demanded this leak investigation and Bush caved. Of course Chucky knows that the jury pool would come from DeeCee, which is 5 to 1 Democrat, so all you’ve got to do is put some stooge before the jury and they’ll be convicted everytime by the BDS’ers.

And does Bush ever learn that you can’t trust Democrats? Apparently not because he put former Clinton HHS Secretary Donna Shalala on the committee investigating conditions at Walter Reed. What could go wrong? D’Oh!

pistolero on March 8, 2007 at 1:14 PM