How about some Victory Rallies across the country? Maybe during the Dem Convention?

One, the comment by Bresnahan that: “it would end the Iraq war by default since there would be no more money for combat operations, and Republicans would punish the Democrats for years over it” is not necessarily true.

I am referring to the part that such would end the war, not the part that the Democrats would be punished for years (more like decades) over it. That latter part is certainly true.

Two, the Democrats WOULD COMPLETELY OWN THE WAR ON TERRORISM, including the Iraqi civil war and genocide that would surely follow, as well as any future terrorist strikes in the USA or the destruction of the State of Israel as a consequence of defunding the war.

Point 3. It must be noted that Congress cannot strip any powers under Article 2 of the Constitution away from the President via mere legislation. Such requires a Constitutional amendment. Further, Congress does NOT have the power to undeclare war once they have authorized the use of military force.

Curiously, Congress did in fact limit their own power to defund any war by passing the War Powers Act, specifically section 1544, which allows the President to continue the use of military power without Congressional approval if the country is under threat OR if the troops cannot be safely extracted.

In the event that Congress does not fund the fighting or the funding bill is vetoed, while the nation is still fighting, the War Powers Act confirms the ability of the President to continue waging war, implying that he can transfer necessary funds, temporarily, from other budget items, as long as the country under threat or the troops cannot be safely extracted.

Clearly, if the Democrats attempt to pull the rug out from under the troops and the President disagrees and refuses to cut and run, the nation will be in a Constitutional crisis unlike anything ever before seen. Congress’s only “check and balance” would be to impeach and remove the President, which they do not have the votes to do.

And contrary to the wet dreams of the nutroots, such a vote would doom the Democratic Party to destruction. They’d be out of power for generations to come, assuming that they still existed after that.

There is a ton of non military related pork in this bill also. Put in the hot button stuff and sneak in the pork barrel stuff for the folks back home and if you veto it turn on the whine machine. Somewhere, somehow we need to give the president, regardless of who it is, the line item veto.

LakeRuins on March 6, 2007 at 7:34 PM

There was a lot of pork at least as of a few days ago when I wrote about it.

I get the impression though the democrat party got caught, and decided to spin it.

Now, a few days later when they realize they can further play politics with WR, they changed their tune:

Democrats are looking for a way to force Bush to begin bringing troops home and spend some money instead on veterans’ health care.

“…ahhh, we support the troops, really. See, we just want to spend more money on their health care.”

What crap!

$1.2 billion in relief, unemployment, food and housing aid arising out of a freeze that destroyed citrus, avocado and other crops in California’s Central Valley.

Absolutely nothing to do with a soldiers health.

I know, stupid question, because they “support the troops” the way cancer supports a host body.

The premise of any strategy, said Rep. Rahm Emanuel, chairman of the House Democratic Caucus, must be that “a lot of people were overshooting the runway on what one piece of legislation could accomplish.”

…meaning the slow bleed strategy – read about his new sly “slower bleed” tactic.

From the same article:

Among some of the staunchest congressional foes of the war, there is a growing awareness of the obstacles they face. Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., an anti-war hero, sent an important message to his allies when he said Sunday on “Meet the Press” that “we don’t have the votes” to cut off funding for the war.

The Dem 2008 Convention is going to be a ratings blockbuster, or at least the coverage of the protests/riots outside will be… it really will be 1968 all over again.

It’ll be in Denver too, that will be fun watching the protests while on the roller coasters in Elitch Gardens that is next to the Pepsi Center. Will they shut down Auraria Parkway?

Can we question their patriotism yet?

Yes.

I questioned it from day uno.

Can we question their patriotism yet?

RightWinged on March 6, 2007 at 6:32 PM

Yes, definately. The Donks have shown no interest in helping America win this war. The Dems only interest is in making sure that President Bush and the Republicans lose it.

If, when, America is victorious, these slimeballs will do one of two things: A. Revert back to their statements of 2002/3 and claim they were behing the whole endeavor from the beginning or B. Devalue the victory in some way to minimize the damage to their reputations for not supporting our effort towards victory.

You ain’t going home if there ain’t nobody replacing you.

JasonG on March 6, 2007 at 6:43 PM

They would like nothing better than troop shortages to get the draft reinstated, and this kind of maneuvering increases the possibility of that happening. Never mind that the military doesn’t want it. You should read Colin Powell’s take on the draft in his bio – it’s blistering. But again, it doesn’t matter if it’s bad for the military if it’s good for the Dems.

12 months of stabilization after troops return home? Don’t they realize that will increase the time that soldiers are overseas? You ain’t going home if there ain’t nobody replacing you.

JasonG on March 6, 2007 at 6:43 PM

JasonG, it doesn’t matter to them what they “realize”, this is all about how bad they can make the situation in Iraq. The worse they make it, the better their chances of winning… It’s cliche but true: The Democrats hate America and want troops to die to gain more power. The name of the game for Dems all through this administration has been make things go wrong and when you can’t make them appear bad through the media in order to win elections by default. These people are pure evil, and no I’m not kidding. Pelosi, Reid, Kerry, Edwards, Clinton… How can you describe their lies and politic playing and actions clearly directed at making us lose and dividing the nation to promise the enemy a victory in Washington as anything but evil?