LA Times urges Mexico to be softer on illegal immigration

posted at 5:10 pm on March 6, 2007 by Allahpundit

Otherwise, how are all those “undocumented” workers from Central America going to make it across our southern border if they can’t make it across Mexico’s first? And just on principle, how can American leftists make the case for amnesty here if illegals there are getting two years in jail? Two years!

Emphasis in original!:

WHEN HOUSE Republicans last year sought to make the mere presence of illegal immigrants in the United States a felony punishable by one year in prison, the odious legislation sparked international condemnation. No country was more loudly indignant than Mexico. Then-President Vicente Fox called the legislation “shameful” and its targets “heroes” who make a crucial contribution to the U.S. economy.

Yet Mexico is hardly in a position to criticize. Since 1974, foreign immigrants in Mexico illegally have been subject to prison sentences of two years, plus a fine. Immigrants who are caught reentering Mexico after deportation face 10-year prison sentences, compared to two years here…

[Mexican] reforms would certainly improve the plight of detained migrants and also Mexico’s relationship with its southern neighbors, as well as giving Mexico more moral standing to agitate against laws affecting its citizens in the United States. Those in this country who oppose guest-worker programs and a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants often cite Mexico’s own harsher policies as the ones we should adopt, or at least complain about first.

Mexico can declaw that argument by closing the gap between its advocacy for Mexican nationals in the United States and how it treats illegal immigrants within its borders. Mexico is under pressure from the U.S. to block the flow of migrants heading north, and recent crackdowns, in part, have been to that end. Ensuring the human rights of its migrant population, however, is not only the right thing to do, it’s good politics.

No worries — Felipe Calderon’s way ahead of them, just in time for the big amnesty push in the Senate next month. Quote: “Just as we demand respect for the human rights of our countrymen, we have the ethical and legal responsibility to respect the human rights and the dignity of those who come from Central and South America and who cross our southern border.”

Exit question: How much must conditions reek in Central America that people are escaping to Mexico for a better life?

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The illegal Guatamalans around here do higher quality work than the illegal Mexicans, IMHO. It is a shame that Mexico is incarcerating them and others from a better way of life.

Valiant on March 6, 2007 at 5:18 PM

Exit question: How much must conditions reek in Central America that people are escaping to Mexico for a better life?

Mexico’s nothing more than a toll road on the way to Paradise. I’m curious as to what percentage of Central American illegals stay in Mexico, rather than continue the journey north.

Kid from Brooklyn on March 6, 2007 at 5:24 PM

And they try harder to speak english and are a lot more polite. . . though I think you’re comment Valiant was tounge in cheek.

The message of the artical of course is, ‘Mexico, you’re buggering up our open borders agenda here!’

- El Gato

MirCat on March 6, 2007 at 5:25 PM

Easy to fix. The Mexican gov. tells us how many illegals they have retained, we allow an equal amount and allow those in legally. Than Mexico releases the retained illegals. Kind of like a water bucket line that the fire depts. used before pumpers. They can just hand the illegals from jursidiction to jurisdiction, that way they can obtain a ratio of about 10 to 1. For every 1 they incarcerate, we end up allowing 10 in.
The problem with making such a stupid remark, is that a democrat will think it is brilliant and suggest it.

right2bright on March 6, 2007 at 5:29 PM

And they try harder to speak english and are a lot more polite. . . though I think you’re comment Valiant was tounge in cheek.

No, I was serious and agree with your statement also. If we are going to be invaded, it should be by competent polite people.

Valiant on March 6, 2007 at 5:30 PM

illegals there are getting two years in jail

The Mexicans aren’t stupid. They want to purge their country of its criminals and uneducated poor people and it would be a zero sum game for them if they allowed these people to be replaced thru the back door.

Calderon will say he’s going to relax his immigration laws but he’s not stupid and doesn’t have a death wish for his country like our politicians have for the US. They’ll just shuffle their invaders right on up to us instead of jailing them from now on.

Perchant on March 6, 2007 at 5:40 PM

Ensuring the human rights of its migrant population, however, is not only the right thing to do, it’s good politics.

So long as it’s good politics, it’s good. The hell with laws and inconveniences like that…agenda journalism, for the GOOD.

Entelechy on March 6, 2007 at 6:00 PM

LA Times urges Mexico to be softer on illegal immigration

Huh. Perrier and tapas at the border!

Slublog on March 6, 2007 at 6:13 PM

What border?

Gregor on March 6, 2007 at 6:29 PM

What border?

Hmmm…

Perrier, tapas and pre-warmed lemony towels at the border-like thingy!

Slublog on March 6, 2007 at 6:30 PM

How much must conditions reek in Central America that people are escaping to Mexico for a better life?

> Pretty dang bad.

Troy Rasmussen on March 6, 2007 at 6:35 PM

What would THIS guy say?

Gregor on March 6, 2007 at 6:36 PM

Sorry. Can’t resist. We might as well elect him U.S. President. Not much difference from the guy currently holding office.

Gregor on March 6, 2007 at 6:38 PM

Who is that guy? He looks like Rip Torn.

Slublog on March 6, 2007 at 6:41 PM

Who is that guy? He looks like Rip Torn.

Slublog on March 6, 2007 at 6:41 PM

Juan Hernandez. Mexico’s “Migration Chief” and Jorge Bush’s self conscious.

“We must not only have a free flow of goods and services, but also start working for a free flow of people.”

Gregor on March 6, 2007 at 6:47 PM

Gregor

Every time I see that lying POS on TV I want to puke. He reminds me of a used car salesman in East LA.

The sad thing is that he works for GWB.

ScottyDog on March 6, 2007 at 7:00 PM

Viva “La Raza”!

PinkyBigglesworth on March 6, 2007 at 7:10 PM

Who is that guy? He looks like Rip Torn.

Slublog on March 6, 2007 at 6:41 PM

The most disingenuous man on the face of planet earth. That guy can obfuscate and outright lie like no other, he makes satan jealous.

Theworldisnotenough on March 6, 2007 at 7:17 PM

Recently, large demonstrations have taken place across the country protesting the fact that Congress is finally addressing the issue of illegal immigration. Certain people are angry that the U.S. might protect its own borders and might make it harder to illegally sneak into this country. Others are angry that once here, illegals get to stay indefinitely, perhaps permanently… and the illegal immigrants quite possibly will qualify for Social Security retroactively, when we cannot guarantee Social Security in the future for our own. Yet, the pro-illegal immigration side is the one making the hugest stink, the loudest noise, putting on the most hysterionic tantrums for public display.

So, let me see if I correctly understand the thinking behind these pro-illegal immigration protests:

Let’s say I break into your house. Let’s say that when you discover me in your house, you insist that I leave. But I say, “I’ve made all the beds and washed the dishes and did the laundry and swept the floors; I’ve done all the things you don’t like to do. I’m hard-working and honest” (except for the part when I broke into your house).

According to the protesters, not only must you let me stay, you must add me to your family’s insurance plan, educate my kids, give me and my family free health-care at taxpayer expense, and provide other benefits to me and to my family because I am supposedly hard-working and honest, except for that breaking in part. If you try to call the police or force me out, I will call my friends who will picket your house carrying signs that proclaim my right to be there.

It’s only fair, after all, because you have a nicer house than I do, and I’m just trying to better myself. I’m hard-working and honest, um, except for well, you know, the illegally breaking into your house part.

And what a deal it is for me!! I live in your house, contributing only a fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing you can do about it without being accused of selfishness, bigotry and being an anti-housebreaker. Oh yeah, and I want you to learn my language so you can communicate with me! English is too hard for me to learn. You should also allow me to vote in my own language, since I live in your house!

Why can’t people see how ridiculous this is? Only in America …

SilverStar830 on March 6, 2007 at 7:20 PM

SilverStar830 on March 6, 2007 at 7:20 PM

SilverStar830, you nailed it, but left out the icing on the cake.

Even though I am living in your house for free, and you are providing education for my kids, my health care, etc., I am going to send all of the money you pay me back home to prop up the government of my country that makes life so bad that I had to come here and break into your house in the first place……..

Anyone else had enough???

For me, the next election is a single issue election.

SECURE THE BORDER! NOW!

PinkyBigglesworth on March 6, 2007 at 7:27 PM

What Calderon is not counting on is a recession. That will ruin his plan to backfill his population with immigrants from Central America.

To explain the only time the U.S. trade deficit even budges downward is during a recession. A recession will not give illegals an economy they can hide in. Illegals have been too successful, there is a tremendous housing glut in San Diego. Empty condos are everywhere, downtown San Diego is in the process of becoming 70-80% residential. Some projects are still being completed in a falling market. With enforcement ramping up and a recession if it comes casting a spotlight on out of work illegals people are going to notice the superflous workers. I would not be suprised to see Home Depots with many more illegals looking for work.

This is not a negative for Mexico if they play it correctly. A large labor pool can be put to work. If Mexico opens their economy to U.S. manufacturing, Mexico can get a competitive edge on Chinese imports. That is a win for us as well. Does China become more or less agreeable if we have a neighbor to the South that can take their export business away from them? I’m guessing more. Two birds one stone illegals have jobs, at home, and we have a bargaining chip with China; three birds we also get a much more shallow recession.

Of course all of this depends on a recession. My money is on Greenspan.

Theworldisnotenough on March 6, 2007 at 7:39 PM

I think a lot of this stems from early and prolonged exposure to John Lennon’s song “Imagine.”

The 60′s are calling and they want their naivete back.

Mojave Mark on March 6, 2007 at 8:06 PM

Mexico to the United States: “Illegal alien invasion for thee, but not for me.”

tommy1 on March 6, 2007 at 8:36 PM

Hey Gregor…
I saw that guys picture in the dictionary , next to the word SMARMY!!!! hehehehehhe

Yeah he makes me want to puke too…
Didja see Teddy the Pious Kennedy with the catholic Bishop imploring all of us to welcome in all the huddled masses from throughout the world….yeah sounds like a plan..The Man who created the problem and the priest who helped shuffle pedohiles near and far to spread their mercy!! Lord help us all with Teddy the K in charge…3 strikes he is OUT!!!

Mellen on March 6, 2007 at 8:42 PM

How much must conditions reek in Central America that people are escaping to Mexico for a better life?

Part of it, but they’re also on their way here.

Alex K on March 6, 2007 at 9:31 PM

Sorry. Can’t resist. We might as well elect him U.S. President. Not much difference from the guy currently holding office.

Gregor on March 6, 2007 at 6:38 PM

Oh no Gregor – this guy is many-fold slyer than Mr. Bush.

Entelechy on March 6, 2007 at 9:44 PM

Oh no Gregor – this guy is many-fold slyer than Mr. Bush.

Entelechy on March 6, 2007 at 9:44 PM

Oh, no doubt! But both are experts at lying about how illegals are only doing jobs Americans won’t do, such as restaurant jobs in NY City:

They are padrinos like Jaime Lucero, who slipped into the U.S. illegally in 1975 and found work in the kitchen of a New York restaurant. Twenty-five years later, he has his own clothing distribution company, Gold & Silver, Inc., and has now invested four million dollars in his home state of Puebla, money that will generate 7,000 new jobs in a new women’s clothing factory.

Gregor on March 6, 2007 at 10:27 PM

Another History Lesson needs to me learned again……..

PinkyBigglesworth on March 7, 2007 at 1:10 AM

The illegal Guatamalans around here do higher quality work than the illegal Mexicans, IMHO. It is a shame that Mexico is incarcerating them and others from a better way of life.

Valiant on March 6, 2007 at 5:18 PM

Yup, they do. They also still lack that “you owe it to me” attitude, which is nice.

Tim Burton on March 7, 2007 at 1:29 AM