Audio: Hillary, Obama develop southern accents for Selma
posted at 12:27 am on March 5, 2007 by Allahpundit
They were both in town today to commemorate Bloody Sunday. First up: the Glacier. Commentary by Matt Drudge, audio courtesy of Jim C. at Drudge Radio Archives. In fairness to Hillary, if you’ve ever heard the Gorebot testifyin’ before a black audience, you know the pandering can get much, much worse than this.
Obama’s new accent appears only a few times, but that’s not really what you’re watching the clip for. Randy from RightWinged sent it along and wants to know — isn’t there a minor problem with the messiah’s timeline here?
Let’s go to the (rough) partial transcript:
What happened in Selma, Alabama and Birmingham also stirred the conscience of the nation. It worried folks in the White House who said, “You know, we’re battling Communism. How are we going to win hearts and minds all across the world? If right here in our own country, John, we’re not observing the ideals set fort in our Constitution, we might be accused of being hypocrites.” So the Kennedy’s decided we’re going to do an air lift. We’re going to go to Africa and start bringing young Africans over to this country and give them scholarships to study so they can learn what a wonderful country America is.
This young man named Barack Obama got one of those tickets and came over to this country. He met this woman whose great great-great-great-grandfather had owned slaves; but she had a good idea there was some craziness going on because they looked at each other and they decided that we know that the world as it has been it might not be possible for us to get together and have a child. There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don’t tell me I don’t have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don’t tell me I’m not coming home to Selma, Alabama.
A Kennedy program helped bring Obama’s father to the United States? Really? According to Obama’s first book,
He eventually won a scholarship to study in Nairobi; and then, on the eve of Kenyan independence, he was selected by Kenyan leaders and American sponsors to attend a university in the United States, joining the first large wave of Africans to be sent forth to master Western technology and bring it back to forge a new, modern Africa.
In 1959, at the age of 23, he arrived at the University of Hawaii – the first African student there.
1959. Two years before JFK was inaugurated. [Update: See below.]
As for his parents getting together in part because of what was stirring from Selma, Bloody Sunday happened on March 7, 1965. Obama was born August 4, 1961.
In fairness, he does link Selma to Birmingham a minute or two earlier in the clip — but even if you stretch the timeline to account for that, the major civil rights events in Birmingham happened in 1963, still two years after he was born.
Maybe he meant Montgomery?
Update: The Obama camp is already spinning his convenient lie:
Obama was born in 1961, four years before the march across the Edmund Pettus Bridge. But spokesman Bill Burton said Obama was “speaking metaphorically about the civil rights movement as a whole.”
Update: Looks like the mistake about the Kennedys’ role may be mine, not Obama’s. Juliette from Baldilocks points to this Time magazine piece about the “Kennedy airlift” of aspiring African scholars — in 1960. I can’t find any references to an airlift in 1959, though, when Obama said his father was in Hawaii.
Update: Here we go, with many thanks to reader Jake B. for digging this up. First, Obama Sr. and the 1959 airlift…
Like Obama Senior, I toowent to the US on the famous Tom Mboya Airlift of 1959 [when hundreds ofKenyan students were given scholarships to American universities]. I firstmet Obama Senior in Tom Mboya’s Nairobi office [Mboya was then the secretarygeneral of the Kenya Federation of Labour]. Obama and I met up again onreturning to Nairobi and remained drinking buddies for many years.
…and now the Kennedy connection. According to Jake, this comes from page 4 of “Meeting Africa’s Challenge: The Story of African Committee on Africa” by George M. Houser.
My apologies for the error.
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Oh to go unchallenged by the MSM.
Advantage, Hillary.
Exit Question for the MSM. WHO would be ocnsidered part of the “Vast Right Wing Conspiracy” if they get attacked/approached on questions like these.
I ask that question of al y’all.
HarryStar on March 5, 2007 at 12:43 AM
Ugh! The racial hate-bating from Obamanation is so tiresome. The FACT that his timeline is corrupt is – to all those who buy in to the racial hate-baiting – beside the point for the audience to whom he speaks. Along with developing southern accents (which were poor, to say the least) can they develop some character as well or is that asking far too much of these presidential “hopefuls” as they seek to pander to the lowest common denominator in their futile path to the White House?
thedecider on March 5, 2007 at 12:47 AM
This is just another example of contempt that the left have for the black community. The think they are too stupid to figure out the accent and the spinning of the timeline.
csdeven on March 5, 2007 at 1:03 AM
I can’t listen to anymore of this pandering………..
I have it on “Save”……….
For the next time a Conservative Republican takes one step into any Church, just to pray, and not even pander for votes or money {illegal?}, I will have ammunition to fire back…….
Ms. Pant Suit, you forget that there is a price to pay by using the Lord against his will……….. but maybe spending years with the “Stainer of Dresses”, you have forgotten…….
No skin of me, I can sleep tonight, you were the one who said the words and are seeking power……
PinkyBigglesworth on March 5, 2007 at 1:30 AM
Go tell that long tongue liar
Go and tell that midnight rider
Tell the rambler,
The gambler,
The back biter
Tell ‘em that God’s gonna cut ‘em down
Tell ‘em that God’s gonna cut ‘em down
-Johnny Cash
x95b10 on March 5, 2007 at 1:31 AM
She hasn’t forgotten Pinky. Bill is the driver behind her campaign. It seems like a very sick relationship to all of us who live normal lives. But to she and Bill, it’s all about power and prospects. Sick, indeed – but that’s the life they’re living and have been for many decades.
thedecider on March 5, 2007 at 1:37 AM
It’s okay to pander to the southern voters by adopting an accent. Those yahoos are too dumb to remember how the libs smear and denigrate the south for having all those red states. (/eye roll) And notice how it is okay to be “religious,” as long as they are in the “black churches.” They wouldn’t be caught in “white churches.” That would scare the libs too much. They might think that Hillary and Obama are serious about this religious stuff.
Hillary touts that she is a Methodist. I would like to know the frequency of her church attendence for regular worship, not for political activites. And how about her having to ask BJ if it was okay for her to attend. hahahahaha. How belivable is it to think that they even talk to each other…..
Mallard T. Drake on March 5, 2007 at 1:42 AM
Pretty much every public speaker worth their salt adapts to their audience.
Nonfactor on March 5, 2007 at 1:54 AM
Really? Are you serious? I always felt it was insulting unless it is done tounge in cheek.
csdeven on March 5, 2007 at 1:59 AM
Ho, ho, ho, so it was a Republican who gave his father the opportunity he needed.
Dusty on March 5, 2007 at 2:03 AM
Oh dear.
So Prince Obama is the product of the Berlin Airlift and the director’s cut of Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner ?
My God that accent makes me hungry for fried chicken. The kind my Granny used to make.
With biscuits.
And gravy.
Lots of gravy.
billy on March 5, 2007 at 2:06 AM
Just remember this. The dhems will eat their own before the primaries. And if the Republicans don’t pay attention to it, they will lose a golden opportunity.
R D on March 5, 2007 at 2:12 AM
*vomits*
The pandering and BS was too much. What is worse the fact that he links, without opposition, Africans to Blacks in America or the fact they so want to believe in the messiah they swallow the farce with gratitude? I have no respect left for Black “leadership.”
Theworldisnotenough on March 5, 2007 at 2:32 AM
Why do Democrats strike me as being atheist intelligensia in New England, and devout Christians in the South?
Or should I ask, why are they not called on it?
Free Constitution on March 5, 2007 at 2:44 AM
You have to give Obama credit for his political mastery. This whole thing was not to lay claim to Selma, but to undercut those talking about his slave owning heritage. Hillary better be ok been VP on the Dem ticket because Obama (save another don’t talk about my ears incident) has the nomination locked. As for the lies, misrepresentations, and faulty timelines, he’s a democrate; they don’t care.
- The Cat
MirCat on March 5, 2007 at 2:53 AM
I don’t think that’s quite right. I think he’s using this story as a hedge against those like that woman Colbert had on his show (her name escapes me) who are saying he’s not “authentically” black because his family–well, his father’s side, anyway–never had to deal with issues like slavery and Jim Crow.
Sean M. on March 5, 2007 at 5:37 AM
If Guliani or Romney gave a speech at St. Michael the Archangel Church to a group from the pro-life movement that would be mixing religion and politics and the MSM would be screaming for their scalps. But Herself and Obama and any other donk get a pass. Makes me sick.
Ellen on March 5, 2007 at 6:05 AM
I forced myself to watch these idiots and now I’m sorry. I live in NYC but am a Southerner by birth and the Grace of God and still have a little accent but can tell you that a manufactured Southern accent is the ultimate insult to a real Southerner… it’s like you are doing a ‘put down’. Lets hope the people they were speaking to ‘get it’. My question is…When are they going to put on black face and start the ‘Mammy’ minstrel show as they can’t get anymore insulting.
DoctorDentons on March 5, 2007 at 6:14 AM
Hillary must think those black folks are too stupid to underdstand her elite, midwestern, college educated accent so she puts on the slowwww southern uneducated drawl like she’s talking to preschoolers. How offensive.
ctmom on March 5, 2007 at 7:33 AM
Wasn’t that what Ann Coulter did? Speak metaphorically about how girly John Edwards is as a whole?
wryteacher on March 5, 2007 at 8:01 AM
The only thing worse than a fake Southern accent is a a fake politician from Yankee territory doing it, not to mention two fake Yankees in one day.
U.G.H.!
SouthernGent on March 5, 2007 at 8:22 AM
Let’s just drop the Ann Coulter story right now, lest we get more HotAir Heartache on the subject.
Back on topic, I get the feeling that Obama himself could own slaves at this point and he wouldn’t get questioned on it by the MSM. Just one of the perks of being the first serious black candidate without “Hymietown” or Tawana Brawley hanging over his head. As for Hillary, she better start unpacking the boxes in her Senate office. She’s gonna be there for awhile.
Shivv on March 5, 2007 at 8:25 AM
I completely agree. Some say that I have a southern accent, I tend to think it’s more of a Texas accent – Hilary’s attempt just came out BAD. And Barack – good lord – he tried to make himself sound Black. How insulting.
pullingmyhairout on March 5, 2007 at 8:29 AM
George W. Bush is “The real deal”, not an actor and thats why the left can’t stand him. The only prominent persons that were not white during the Clinton Whitehouse tenure were his secretary and the surgeon general of masturbation fame.
gary on March 5, 2007 at 8:30 AM
Newsflash, Ann Coulter is not running for POTUS.
.
The Machine on March 5, 2007 at 8:47 AM
And she had all that time in Arkansas to perfect it
EricPWJohnson on March 5, 2007 at 8:53 AM
AllahP- points taken on the claims vs reality..but please don’t make fun of the fact that they picked up on the accents! (I pick up the accents of people and start speaking like them, it is after 1 sentence that I usually realize what I have done) :)
P.S. Odd you bring this up…Hubby and I listened(early last week) to an audio of Hillary stumping for Bill during 92′ election and I made the comment that she has rid herself of that accent..
Pam on March 5, 2007 at 8:54 AM
That is exactly right, it’s insulting. Lord that woman is vile.
SouthernDem on March 5, 2007 at 9:07 AM
I think it would be fun if we all try to drop the “speaking metaphorically” line into conversation today.
E.g., “Sorry, honey. When I said that I had taken the trash out last night, I was speaking metaphorically.”
saint kansas on March 5, 2007 at 9:12 AM
he sounds like Brer Rabbit or Jim from Tom Sawyer.
Alden Pyle on March 5, 2007 at 9:13 AM
Okay – so speaking metaporically…uh, Obama must be an idiot, right?
SpartRan on March 5, 2007 at 9:15 AM
If nothing else, it’s clear that spokesman Bill Burton is.
SpartRan on March 5, 2007 at 9:16 AM
Speaking metaphorically, Obama is the King and ruler of all he survey’s and the black community is the ignorant huddled masses begging for more gruel.
csdeven on March 5, 2007 at 9:21 AM
I found both of their accents about as convincing as DeNiro’s in Cape Fear.
I saw both Dems on Fox News this morning. They were both speaking outside and by the angle of the sun, appeared to have done it at the same time. But behind both Hil and Obama was John Lewis and Al Sharpton. And they were in the same positions behind them in both camera shots. Have they been cloned?
I wonder how soon we’ll hear Obama saying, “When I was just a poor black kid, growing up in rural Hawaii….”
TugboatPhil on March 5, 2007 at 9:29 AM
Doesn’t this remind you of a certain Pres. cand. who grew up remembering the burning of black churches?
The sad part, the blacks eat this up, it is almost like they think people who are clever enough to lie and manipulte them, are clever enough to be their Pres.
right2bright on March 5, 2007 at 9:38 AM
I could only listen to BO for about 5 minutes. But when I was tuned in I heard him say something along these lines:
“Yes, we have received the civil rights we were entitled too, but isn’t it time someone addresses our economic rights?”
BO believes economic success comes from government action and entitlements. Conservatives know it comes from education and hard work. Liberals don’t get it, and they certainly don’t want their balck voting block to figure it out either. How unfortunate for black Americans.
Pinky, have you received the back orders on the vomit bags?
fogw on March 5, 2007 at 9:44 AM
A public speaker may adapt his/her mannerisms, but adapting the accent? If either one of these people came to Pittsburgh and started saying yunz or sath side, they’d get laughed off the stage.
dalewalt on March 5, 2007 at 9:49 AM
Pam, unless I’m misunderstanding, you (as with another commenter or two) are saying that you can understand picking up the accent of those around you. This is true to a point. I lived in the south for 5 years and picked it up when I was around certain friends with heavy accents, mainly when drinking… But it’s entirely different when you’re giving a speech and every so often a politically calculating mind tells you to throw that accent on so the accent is on and off throughout the entire speech. This wasn’t naturally adapting, this was sickening.
People really need to check out the other audio clips at the Drudge Radio Archives if they want to hear how bad it really got, and also hear her religious pandering… What lucky timing for Hillary to find God (interesting that if these were Republicans pandering in churches they’d be blasted from liberal blogs all the way to the MSM)
Anyway, you NEED to check out more audio here:
http://www.drudgeradioarchives.com/2007/03/04-week.php
Especially this one:
http://www.drudgeradioarchives.com/audio/Drudge_HillaryAccent.mp3
Admittedly she’s quoting someone, but come on
http://www.bayoubuzz.com/News/Business/Barack_Obama_Hillary_Clinton_Selma_Race_For_Black_And_White_Votes__2997.asp
Anyway, thanks for posting this AP because I’m afraid it wouldn’t get out if you hadn’t. But I do think you missed a bit of an opportunity to also focus on Hillary’s religious pandering.
I’ll briefly take the reigns for that here… You all can see that last link for the full transcript of the speeches by the soul brotha and sista.
On with it… Here’s Hillary’s opener:
After a bit of name dropping of local leaders, she knocks it out of the park with this treat:
Okay, this next one isn’t religious pandering, but back to that down home talkin’:
Yeah Hill, I’m sure you talk like that around your Manhattan pals. Golly, that sure was mighty nice of ya to dumb it down fo dem po folks.
Blah blah blah, down the line… the whole speech is all religiously toned, she quotes scripture near the end. It’s all just really disgusting.
But more digusting than the act is that the people in attendence ate it up, and that the MSM won’t bust them on this. I’m hoping that because of Allah’s post here, and Michelle’s attention it may reach O’Reilly or Hannity at least.
RightWinged on March 5, 2007 at 9:59 AM
Even if they’re speaking metaphorically? Tough crowd.
All kidding aside, that’s why the MSM’s failure to call attention to stories like this one so unconscionable. Oh, well – I guess they think spoon feeding their audience the latest detail about Anna Nicole (Groundskeeper: “Still dead, far as I know…”) constitutes reporting the news.
SpartRan on March 5, 2007 at 10:02 AM
Hillary is so phony that she doesn’t even know when she’s being a phony. Isn’t she a wonderful person . . . anybody that’s votes for her deserves exactly what they get.
rplat on March 5, 2007 at 10:10 AM
Except for the lying part, and the fact that his father abandoned him, O’bama really told a nice stirring story linking himself to American blacks.
jdpaz on March 5, 2007 at 10:24 AM
LIsten to this and then listen to this. Separated at birth? Her acting coach?
dorkafork on March 5, 2007 at 10:32 AM
Boy that is a terrible
accident…accent.Question, is she going to show up at a League of the South meeting next?
Tim Burton on March 5, 2007 at 10:56 AM
Now hypothetically as president, if Hillary were traveling to China, would she be able to pull off a “ching,chong, ching,chong” accent?
That would impress the Chinese to no end. Right Rosie?
fogw on March 5, 2007 at 11:02 AM
Hillary has promised Rosie the spot as ambassador to China.
By the way, while my comment at 9:59 AM is much more important, I have to mention that this isn’t the first time Hillary pulled something like this. Remember MLK Jr. day a couple years ago? She spoke in a Harlem church and told the congregation that the Republicans were running Congress “like a plantation” and told the crowd “and you know what I’m talkin’ about!”
RightWinged on March 5, 2007 at 11:12 AM
Thats because the MSM thinks that kind of behavior is moderate. If a candidate used their normal speech patterns the MSM would say they sounded comdescending, superior and like a right winged bigot.
csdeven on March 5, 2007 at 11:21 AM
You were NOT “coming home to Selma” Mr. Obama because you were
Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practice to deceive.
I guess Hilly and “Obam the Man” (my new tagline for Obama) needs to understand another quote from Sir Walter Scott:
Somehow, I don’t think ether will listen.
RedinBlueCounty on March 5, 2007 at 11:24 AM
Great point.
Additionally, can we really expect that liberals, who reject those values, are going to be brought to believe in them by trying to appeal to those values when those values do not exist in them?
Talk about trying to catch fish with the wrong bait. Sheesh!
csdeven on March 5, 2007 at 11:34 AM
Why shouldn’t they? Blacks continue to vote for these people regardless of their actions. This incident won’t change that, and if someone such as Bill Cosby were to point it out … God help them.
Gregor on March 5, 2007 at 11:44 AM
Worse than 2 liberal, northern Republicans genuflecting to the CPAC?
honora on March 5, 2007 at 12:51 PM
Exactly. It’s amazing how many of our fellow conservatives attack liberals for falling for this crap, and then vow to vote for a Republican who is liberal on every issue.
Gregor on March 5, 2007 at 1:05 PM
fogw on March 5, 2007 at 1:17 PM
Sooo… then… Libby was just speaking “metaphoricaly”….
why’s he on trial agian???
OHHH… he got the timeline wrong?
OOOPPPPPSSSS!!!!
Romeo13 on March 5, 2007 at 1:31 PM
Right on… Gregor is going more than a little over the top there. And it’s not that we’re all gungho Rudy or something anyway… but if it’s Rudy vs. Hillary? You better believe I will be. The world can’t afford a President Hillary Clinton.
RightWinged on March 5, 2007 at 1:38 PM
Was Obama conceived on the Mekong in Cambodia running guns for the CIA to the Khmer Rouge too?
JFKerry(D) with more pigmentation…
DANEgerus on March 5, 2007 at 1:38 PM
I just got an advanced copy of Obama’s next speech. During a prepared speech in Massachusetts Obama will explain where he came up with the idea for the Boston Tea party to a sold out crowd, before flying to Los Angeles and thanking his parents Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes for working so hard to provide him with opportuinities they didn’t have.
RightWinged on March 5, 2007 at 1:55 PM
I love when she dropped in the line about being a Methodist…When with that accent what she’s REALLY showing herself to be is a Method Actor.
(Lights, Camera . . .Come on, Hillary. MOTIVATION!…The scene is, your character is a presidential candidate trying to get the South on her side after spending years of her life trying desperately to scrape the Mississippi mud off of her Manolo Blahniks…Are you with us, sweetie? Now…ACTION!)
Hell, I was born in the BRONX, and I can manufacture a better Southern accent…The only difference is I’d have to be in a stage play before I’d be crazy enough to try and get it across to a real southerner…And even then, I’d try to make sure they were in on the joke. She’s trying so hard to pull the same wool over their eyes that she pulled over New York Democrats (Yeah…Four whole years as our Senator…Tell us another.) that you could test under her fingernails and get pure lanolin.
52Ranger on March 5, 2007 at 2:04 PM
That was more important than your 9:59 post.
right2bright on March 5, 2007 at 2:14 PM
Um…er…the Tom Mboya Airlift of 1959 is also referred to as the Kennedy Airlift because the Joseph P. Kennedy Jr. Foundation sponsored much of it. My father came here via this Airlift also.
baldilocks on March 5, 2007 at 3:09 PM
…and every audience senses phoneyness from any distance, every single time. Fake is always fake, with no exceptions.
Just like “location, location, location” in real estate, “audience, audience, audience” is everything in public speaking – but phoneyness and fakery are not part of it and any audience knows it, every single time.
Also, “speaking metaphorically
about the civil rights movement as a wholeI (Entelechy) was never meant to live in communism.”Entelechy on March 5, 2007 at 3:13 PM
Oh great, you and your facts. How inconvenient.
honora on March 5, 2007 at 3:26 PM
I’m just curious, do we know that this is what Obama was referring to? I mean, I suppose it’s possible, but considering that we KNOW he lied about the events in Selma leading to his parents getting together and giving birth to him, I’m more inclined to believe he lied in the airlift comments as well.
For the record, all this airlift business is older history I’m not versed in, the h/t I gave AP on this was strictly about the southern accents, the lie about Bloody Sunday leading to Obama’s birth, and Hillary finding God (for the day).
RightWinged on March 5, 2007 at 3:37 PM
Just saw AP’s update:
So we’re still talking about a discrepancy of a year then? Can you explain this baldilocks? I’m not taunting you, I’m really interested in an explanation.
RightWinged on March 5, 2007 at 3:48 PM
“Ich bin ein Berliner, Ya’ll”
Hening on March 5, 2007 at 3:53 PM
My father–Philip Ochieng–wrote an op-ed about the Obamas back in 2004 and mentioned the airlift via which he and the senior Obama came to America. (My name is even mentioned in the article and, no, I do not hold the same political and social views which he does.) There were only 250 prospective students in this airlift–selected by Kenyan politician Tom Mboya, hence the name. Mboya was murdered in 1959.
I was all set to write a scathing blog post about Obama pandering to the Kennedy Legacy, but I though it would be necessary do a little Googling about the subject. Good thing, too.
baldilocks on March 5, 2007 at 4:03 PM
This is from the article you quoted. Nixon was president in 1969 he authorized the $100,000 to airlift the 250 students.
There were basically two airlifts one in 1959 that brought 280 students, including 19 to Canada, and the one mentioned above.
right2bright on March 5, 2007 at 4:05 PM
This, ladies and gentlemen, is precisely why conservatives don’t need a comedy show. You couldn’t write anything this funny if you tried.
foxforce91 on March 5, 2007 at 4:07 PM
Correction: Mboya was murdered in 1969.
baldilocks on March 5, 2007 at 4:15 PM
Nixon was president in 1969 he authorized the $100,000 to airlift the 250 students.
right2bright on March 5, 2007 at 4:05 PM
You might be forgetting that Nixon was Eisenhower’s vice-president–in 1959.
baldilocks on March 5, 2007 at 4:16 PM
baldilocks, again, not badgering you because I’m not versed in the airlifts and my main issues were outside of this… but I’m just wondering why your father’s account speaks of a 1959 airlift when Tom Mboya’s site refers to a 1960 airlift and unless I missed something, not a 1959 one http://www.tommboya.com/detail.asp?id=9
RightWinged on March 5, 2007 at 4:22 PM
(and before anyone tries to tell me “it’s not his site”, I’m aware, but you know what I mean)
RightWinged on March 5, 2007 at 4:22 PM
Now you are stretching, read your link. Nixon had nothing to do with the Kennedy Airlift in 1959, it was a battle between JFK and Nixon, Nixon authorized the $100,000. Sheesh.
right2bright on March 5, 2007 at 4:28 PM
That I can’t answer. The only thing I can suppose is that the planning, funding, political wrangling and approval took place in 1959, though most of the real action happened in 1960.
BTW, I was born in 1961, two weeks after the junior senator from Illinois. Fast workers, these Kenyans. :-)
baldilocks on March 5, 2007 at 4:30 PM
Actually the lift wasn’t all in 1959, it began in 1958 and extended to 1960. They call it the 1959 because that was the bulk of the students (or it was an easy reference), as stated 280 in all.
right2bright on March 5, 2007 at 4:31 PM
Well that’s where we have a discrepancy then, unless we can prove there was an airlift in 1959… because Obama is claiming his father was there in 1959, and it seems that these Mboya’s airlift (that was apparently what some also called Kennedy’s) was in 1960… So outside of your father’s claim to have been in his company, do we have any evidence that the older Obama was truly part of this airlift?
RightWinged on March 5, 2007 at 4:34 PM
This from an archived Canadian paper dated Oct. 1960.
right2bright on March 5, 2007 at 4:35 PM
Now you are stretching, read your link. Nixon had nothing to do with the Kennedy Airlift in 1959, it was a battle between JFK and Nixon, Nixon authorized the $100,000.
right2bright on March 5, 2007 at 4:28 PM
Since the the article in question was published in 1960, I suppose that Nixon approved it (as president) via time travel.
baldilocks on March 5, 2007 at 4:35 PM
Oops posted to soon. Notice that was the third of 19, meaning they were received at different times. Another article listed 18 as Canadian, probable one left after one winter. What the hell is this white stuff?
right2bright on March 5, 2007 at 4:37 PM
Here’s the aritcle link again, r2B: The African Question. I will cut and paste the date: Monday, Aug. 29, 1960.
The JFK-Nixon battle referred to is the 1960 Presidential election–Nixon was the Republican candidate. The two could not have been having any sort of battle while RMN was president (1969-1974), since JFK was assassinated on November 22, 1963.
baldilocks on March 5, 2007 at 4:43 PM
Well that’s where we have a discrepancy then, unless we can prove there was an airlift in 1959… because Obama is claiming his father was there in 1959, and it seems that these Mboya’s airlift (that was apparently what some also called Kennedy’s) was in 1960
RightWinged on March 5, 2007 at 4:34 PM
From the Mboya site:
Looks like the Kenyan one occured in 1959 and one for other African students occured in 1960.
baldilocks on March 5, 2007 at 5:14 PM
Yeah, I read that too and wasn’t clear on what it meant because of the lack of any details on any 1959 airlift. That said we seem to have fleshed it out, and again I was just honestly looking for the answer on that because I’m not an expert on the airlifts.
That said, I still don’t think there is any excuse for the obvious phony accents put on by these two (Obama and Clinton)… It’s much different than the “when you’re around it” excuse some have tried to use to let them slide, because it’s very obviously forced and they slip in and out of the accent. Also on must consider that everything these people (not just them, politicians period) do is rehearsed numerous times. They knew what they were doing… and they knew the MSM won’t care too.
As disgusting is the “sister in worship” Hillary’s bogus praising of “the Almighty”. All that talk out of her was just sickening.
And back to the lying, Obama did still clearly lie about what brought about his birth and there is no way around it and I don’t think any honest person could by his excuse.
RightWinged on March 5, 2007 at 5:24 PM
As to the accent thing, I’m not too worked up over it, though it is condescending. I’ve noticed that GWB’s drawl becomes more pronounced when he’s in perceived friendly company also (Republican gatherings, military addresses).
This, however, is indeed bovine excrement:
As we know, the Selma events occured in 1965. Obama was born in 1961.
My parents also quickly divorced. Having discussed the matter with both of them, I’d say that the problem was that they came from cultures that were too vastly different. (Marriage is tough enough even when the two participants grow up together as I and my ex-husband did.) I’m betting that Obama’s parents had the same sort of culture clash as my parents did–and my mother is a black American.
However, “racism” plays better in such venues.
baldilocks on March 5, 2007 at 5:39 PM
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