Allahpundit: Newsweek poll: Social cons love Rudy, have no idea he’s not a social con……

If Rudy gets nominated I think he’ll add newt as his vp

jp on March 4, 2007 at 3:34 PM

You really Newt settling for the #2 spot? Well I guess stranger things have happened.

Well, not the second part. He explains his decision: It wasn’t as easy a decision as it was when I worked on Bush’s campaigns, primarily because of Rudy’s positions on certain social issues. I know I’m not the only conservative……

On fiscal issues, look at his record in NYC, he made that city business friendly and ran a budget surplus.
As far as gun control goes, there just isn’t popular support,outside the major urban areas, for more restrictions.
If he’s good on judicial nominations, and we know he’s strong on the war, he seems to be the guy regardless of his personal stance on social issues.

Immigration? I’m afraid we’re going to have to embrace the suck no matter who wins.

billy on March 3, 2007 at 9:09 PM

How do you know he’s “strong on the war”? Because he says so? The same reason some people believe he’s appoint Scaliaesque judges–because he says so, despite his record in NY?

The expression is “If it looks like a duck and it walks like a duck…” Nothing about talking like a duck.

Mitt won… Rudy was second. America’s mayor better step up his game. Mitt does have him by the short hairs on gay marriage.

- The Cat

P.S. Some times I feel like Mike Doonesbury waiting for Mario Cuomo to run.

Some of you know by now, but for those that don’t, I’ve joined Rudy Giuliani’s Presidential Exploratory Committee in an effort to help raise funds for next year’s campaign. Giuliani has recently widened his lead over the other …

As far as gun control goes, there just isn’t popular support,outside the major urban areas, for more restrictions.

That’s a nice sentiment, but a weak President encourages the anti’s. Endless press releases after high profile shootings attacking different categories of firearms. There will be daily questions to President Guiliani about his position on saturday night specials, assault weapons, sniper rifles, etc. If he isn’t steadfast we’ll be treated to repeated gun laws being proposed. And some will make it to his desk.

Will he resist the siren song of the Editorial pages encouraging him to “grow” in office or will he heed the poll of the day and sign away our 2nd Amendment Rights.

I too consider myself to be a conservative but I wouldn’t vote for him if he was the only person running. In that direction I see only more big government, big deficit spending, amnesty for illegals, gun control etc. and on most of those issues 6 years has been more than enough. There is more on the menu than Democrat or Democrat lite you know.

Buzzy on March 3, 2007 at 8:18 PM

On fiscal issues, look at his record in NYC, he made that city business friendly and ran a budget surplus.
As far as gun control goes, there just isn’t popular support,outside the major urban areas, for more restrictions.
If he’s good on judicial nominations, and we know he’s strong on the war, he seems to be the guy regardless of his personal stance on social issues.

Immigration? I’m afraid we’re going to have to embrace the suck no matter who wins.

McCain has historically treated the socons like crap, and they have long memories. At least Giuliani has been marginally consistent in his positions and has been a far better practitioner of the “big tent” philosophy than McCain. His position on judges (which is the core of the socons’ political strategy) is and has always been, to my knowledge, consistent with the socon position, i.e. strict constructionism. McCain has a dismal record on that issue, e.g. the Gang of 14.

In short, I know Rudy’s positions on social issues, and I’d still vote for the man over McCain any day.

While many conservatives regard the Civil War president as the spiritual founder of the Republican Party, others deeply resent him as a man who ruthlessly suspended constitutional rights and freedoms in order to militarily challenge the South’s belief in its right to secede. Some saw similar disdain for individuals’ rights in Mr. Giuliani’s successful war on crime in New York City

Was Lincoln a tyrant? Probably but I can’t argue with the results. Guiliani did nothing againt civil rights from anything I have read thus far. Rudy successfully neutered Sharpton and Jesse by getting people into jobs and off of welfare, darn…

Social cons love Rudy, have no idea he’s not a social con

Not a suprise. People vote on appeal not on ideology. Mitt looks far to slick, a pre packaged politician to have appeal in the south, between two carpetbaggers Rudy’s got the edge. With 9/11 in his hip pocket and kicking Arafat?( or some terrorist) out of New York, refusing funds from a person that sugessted that America brought the attacks on herself. I find it hard to beleive Mitt could look more conservatie than Rudy. Rudy needs enough to get through the primaries. Once that is done he is home free for the general election. Appeal folks.

Clarity:
Rudy has time to juxtapose his beliefs against his policy. Leaning towards anti-federalism on issues ensulates him. Really Rudy seems more of a liberal libertarian than a blanket conservative. As long as he belives in states rights and the constitution I’m still with him.

Guns:
As far as guns are concerned who cares? A bill won’t get past Congress. Not in this enviroment. The Brady bill was carried by public opinion we do not have a similar catalyst today.

Abortion:
All ready put to rest. Praising Scalia put me at ease. Although I would not mind Rudy answering: Of the current judges that seem to be inline for SCOTUS which three would make your short list?

Janice R. Brown seems a good choice for Rudy.

Sure, enough can change before the real balloting starts, but he’s a known quantity and anyone who doesn’t know about his social stances is, quite frankly, clueless. He’s going to pull a lot of independent votes and quite a few Democrat votes in the general election (assuming he gets there).

Some staggering numbers, if this is indeed accurate. I have a hunch those ancient photos of Rudy in drag at a press dinner aren’t going to make any difference….

Failing to prevent a House Speaker Pelosi should at least show we’re better off with him as President than Saint Obama, Queen Hillary, or The Straight Arrow John. Deal with your issues of the Republican Congress in Congress. Don’t take it out on the Presidency.

Don’t forget, the “Clinton War Room” NEVER closes……..

Remember the Terminator?…..”they don’t bleed, they don’t feel pain, they don’t feel pitty, or remorse, they will never stop, EVER, until you are DEAD! DON’T YOU GET IT?”

Savage on March 3, 2007 at 7:46 PM

You got that right…….. too much time until the actual votes are cast…. It’s like the first week of football season, and the pundits, like in this case, are talking about the play-offs.

I still believe there are two issues that will win the day:

“Secure the Border, and Win the War!”

But what about “Healthcare?”

“Secure the Border, and Win the War!”

But what about “Civil Unions” and “Gay Rights”?

“Secure the Border, and Win the War!”

But what about “Global Warming”?

“Secure the Border, and Win the War!”

But what about a Woman’s right to “Choose”?

“Secure the Border, and Win the War!”

What about Taxing the “Rich”?

“Secure the Border, and Win the War!”

See……. catching, isn’t it?