Taliban tries to kill Cheney?

posted at 10:26 am on February 27, 2007 by Allahpundit

Captain Ed thinks this gives Bush the political capital he needs to launch an attack on the new terror camps springing up in the Pakistani border region. Hopefully so, although Americans are sufficiently war weary that I suspect at this point they wouldn’t want Bush expanding the theater for any reason short of another AQ bombing on American soil. Besides, how much good would it do? Even if we take the camps out, they’ll just restart them somewhere else with plenty of new recruits energized by the violation of Pakistani sovereignty. The only lasting solution is for the Pakistani army to take control of the region, and Musharraf probably couldn’t do that even if he wanted to.

Now then. Did the Taliban really know Cheney was at Bagram? Two different spokesmen from the group claim they did, but there’s no way to tell if it was just lucky timing and they’re taking credit opportunistically. Per Debka, there is reason to believe the Taliban has tipsters inside Bagram; likewise, MSNBC recalls that a jihadi bomber attacked in the Uruzgan province during a “secret” visit by the U.S. ambassador last year. But if AQ has people on the inside, and if, as one expert on the Taliban claims, the attack must have taken days to plan, how do you explain this tidbit from the MSNBC story?

On the flight out of Afghanistan, Cheney told reporters that he had been in his room at the U.S. base where he had stayed the night unexpectedly after bad weather forced postponement of his trip to the Afghan capital, about 40 miles away.

If they knew he was at the base, wouldn’t they have attacked yesterday, when they knew he was going to be there? Also, if they have people inside Bagram, they must have known they’d have no hope of reaching Cheney in the secure areas. In which case, what was the point? To show the U.S. that they have people inside Bagram? It’s awfully stupid of them to tip their hand this way and get nothing to show for it.

Finally, according to the same expert I mentioned above, “This visit, although highly secretive, was known in circles in Kabul and Islamabad.” Which brings us to our exit question: How do we know it was Afghans who told the Taliban he was at the base?

Update: This isn’t the only story on the wires right now about jihadis targeting a western leader.

Update: Lefties lament the near-miss.


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LOVE THE SNARL…that graphic’s a KEEPER!

seejanemom on February 27, 2007 at 10:27 AM

How dare they try to kill our President.

tommuck on February 27, 2007 at 10:34 AM

This type of attack does not take “days” to execute, but rather hours.

Insurgents rarely expect to successfully attack. Their goal is destabilization. This attack, along with the propaganda that is was “aimed” at Cheney plays well in the press and gives the illusion of destabilization. They people who conducted this attack knew they never had a chance to get Cheney, but the propaganda effect is still the same.

This play is straight out of Insurgency 101 people.

NPP on February 27, 2007 at 10:38 AM

The Vice President must have questioned their patriotism or something.

mymanpotsandpans on February 27, 2007 at 10:38 AM

Update: Lefties lament the near-miss.

I just read that Malkin post, and already knew as soon as the story broke that this would be the reaction of the left. Isn’t it sad when you hear the news and you say to yourself “The commenters at Huffington Post will be expressing sadness that the terrorists didn’t get the VP”, and hours later you’re proven right?

RightWinged on February 27, 2007 at 10:47 AM

To dismiss this attack as opportunistic propaganda is to infantilize our enemies, which is the fundamental error that the left makes in this conflict. Because they swoon over the technical sophistication of the Ipod and their Myspace page; because they believe that the very nuclear weapons that they despise are the menacing big brother that will always allow them to bully their way around the schoolyard consquence- free; because they are racists that believe that there is a real difference between them and us, they fail to appreciate that a genius may be a rough man on a horse, as easily as a beard-scratcher in tweed.

The question is not “was this an attack on the VP?”, but rather “is there any reason to believe they wouldn’t have made the attack if they could have?”

a4g on February 27, 2007 at 10:48 AM

The collective liberal cry: “Damn! We almost had him!!”

Darksean on February 27, 2007 at 10:55 AM

Well, if Dick Cheney wasn’t in favor of waterboarding, then he wouldn’t have been a target. He basically brought it on himself.

Enrique on February 27, 2007 at 10:56 AM

If Cheny would just take one for the team, Bush could appoint a new VP and get a leg up on the presidency in 08 for the conservatives. Rudy or Mitt. I prefer Mitt.

csdeven on February 27, 2007 at 10:59 AM

I imagine the whole moonbat group was praying that it had suceeded; not hte first time the terrorists and moonbats had the same goals

Defector01 on February 27, 2007 at 11:05 AM

Lefties lament the near-miss.

Is anyone truly surprised by that?

flipflop on February 27, 2007 at 11:07 AM

Well, if Dick Cheney wasn’t in favor of waterboarding, then he wouldn’t have been a target. He basically brought it on himself.

And if BJ Clinton had actually done something, anything, to hunt down the terrorists who were attacking American interests for the duration of his presidency, then Bin Laden might have thought twice about his plot to bring down the Twin Towers.

He basicly brought it on himself.

Oh, and I agree with Cheney. Waterboarding is a slap on the wrist compared to the beheadings dished out by our enemies.

Wake up pal.

fogw on February 27, 2007 at 11:11 AM

How do we know it was Afghans who told the Taliban he was at the base?

We don’t. It may have been leaked by some new toner in the administration like an episode of 24.

Valiant on February 27, 2007 at 11:12 AM

More than likely leaked by the same &*@holes who leaked this…

The report is classified, but on Monday senior defense officials, speaking on condition on anonymity, confirmed the decline in overall military readiness. And a report that accompanied Pace’s review concluded that while the Pentagon is working to improve its warfighting abilities, it “may take several years to reduce risk to acceptable levels.”

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on February 27, 2007 at 11:18 AM

If Cheny would just take one for the team, Bush could appoint a new VP and get a leg up on the presidency in 08 for the conservatives. Rudy or Mitt. I prefer Mitt.

csdeven on February 27, 2007 at 10:59 AM

Now THAT’S cold!!

I think we should target these camps in Afghan and Pakistan. How much less supportive can Musharraf be? I know, he’s in a tough situation, yada, yada, yada. Time to pick a side.

Re this Cheney incident: were there any game birds in the area at the time…..

honora on February 27, 2007 at 11:19 AM

Re this Cheney incident: were there any game birds in the area at the time…..

honora on February 27, 2007 at 11:19 AM

If Shotgun Dick was going Dove Hunting, he wouldn’t be in Afghanistan, he’d of gone to Congress…

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on February 27, 2007 at 11:25 AM

I can’t even bear to wander into the fever swamps of the left, but you just knew they would be despondent that Cheney wasn’t killed.

Sure enough.

JammieWearingFool on February 27, 2007 at 11:35 AM

In the fanasty world of leftists, the bad guy is Cheney … not the suicide bomber who killed all the people there. In their view they’re dead because of Cheney.

darwin on February 27, 2007 at 11:46 AM

I think we should target these camps in Afghan and Pakistan. How much less supportive can Musharraf be?

He could very easily be on the other side. He is not.

I know, he’s in a tough situation, yada, yada, yada.

Yes, he is.

Time to pick a side.

No, that was 6.5 years ago, and he did.

Pablo on February 27, 2007 at 11:46 AM

“Huffpostians”? No, it’s Huffpoos.

Entelechy on February 27, 2007 at 11:52 AM

In order to get to Cheney on the airfield, one would have to go past the front gate, the secondary gate, past Tango 25, then past the Guardtower on Disney, down the length of Disney (around a mile) through bumper to bumper traffic, past atleast 400 gun wielding people on the sidewalks, then turn right and go through the SP’s gate.

So, “near miss” isn’t all that appropos.

E5infantry on February 27, 2007 at 11:53 AM

I bet folks like Kerry and Pelosi could backpack through Afganistan or the Pakistan wilderness and be met with flowers and non-pork banquets. So when does the Left in Congress come on the tube and express their concern for the attack?

If the Jihad hates him that much, I love him even more. The one man in power with his head on straight.

Hening on February 27, 2007 at 12:05 PM

No, that was 6.5 years ago, and he did.

Pablo on February 27, 2007 at 11:46 AM

Really? Well apparently not to Cheney’s satisfaction, he went there to read Musharraf’s about his turning of a blind eye to the terrorist camps in Pakistan.

Takes power via a military coup, protects people who sell nuclear secrets to North Korea–with “friends” like these….

honora on February 27, 2007 at 12:07 PM

with “friends” like these….

honora on February 27, 2007 at 12:07 PM

Can’t have it both ways – your side lauds Ms. Albright for being “friends” with Lil’ Kim of NK and wants to be friends with Ahmi of Persia. Besides, your camp advocates ‘nuance’. Just a friendly reminder, regards,

Entelechy on February 27, 2007 at 12:18 PM

Which democrat congressional official tipped them off?

SouthernGent on February 27, 2007 at 12:26 PM

Really? Well apparently not to Cheney’s satisfaction, he went there to read Musharraf’s about his turning of a blind eye to the terrorist camps in Pakistan.

Hopefully Cheney will end his “Turning of a Blind Eye to Terrorists Tour” with a stop at DNC Headquarters.

Draft Cheney.

fogw on February 27, 2007 at 12:29 PM

Can’t have it both ways – your side lauds Ms. Albright for being “friends” with Lil’ Kim of NK and wants to be friends with Ahmi of Persia. Besides, your camp advocates ‘nuance’. Just a friendly reminder, regards,

Entelechy on February 27, 2007 at 12:18 PM

Hey Entelechy. My “side” does not make the mistake of thinking any of these people are our friends, your opinion re Albright nonwithstanding. Or at least I don’t.

honora on February 27, 2007 at 12:30 PM

Draft Cheney.

fogw on February 27, 2007 at 12:29 PM

He’ll probably just go for another deferment.

Oh, you mean for President. (Yes, yes I know. Cheap shot.)

honora on February 27, 2007 at 12:31 PM

Honora,I would suggest that things are not so cut and dried as they usually appear. It’s pretty easy to go after someone if you don’t understand everything they’re up against and you haven’t walked a mile in their shoes.

I would be willing to bet dollars to doughnuts that as much as we here think that we know about Musharraf and the situation he is in that we do not know the half of it. The man has weathered three assassination attempts. I suspect that a lesser man would have quit and run along time ago. For that reason alone, I wouldn’t be so quick to pass judgment on the man’s character.

tomk59 on February 27, 2007 at 12:33 PM

Really? Well apparently not to Cheney’s satisfaction, he went there to read Musharraf’s about his turning of a blind eye to the terrorist camps in Pakistan

.
How do you know this, honora?
Were you there?
As for Musharraf, he may not be shutting down AQ in Waziristan as fast and hard as we’d like, but he’s done a hell of a job otherwise.
I don’t care how he seized power–Pakistan clearly needed a forward-thinking, wise leader like him!
He has made sure that his country is our strong friend and ally and I hope he stays as the head of Pakistan’s government for a long time!
(Notice you don’t see jihadis blowing people and places up in Kashmir anymore nor are India and Pakistan massing troops on each other’s border, ready to go to war as they were 3 and 4 years ago…)
Our strong ties with both India and Pakistan, due to President Bush’s diplomacy, have quieted down the region considerably and we’re working amicably with these 2 nuclear nations to effect a peaceful situation there, something I didn’t notice Bill Clinton doing even though Musharraf staged his coup when Clinton was in office and both countries went nuclear when Clenis was in office.

Jen the Neocon on February 27, 2007 at 12:37 PM

csdeven “take one for the team”

HAAAhahahahahahahahaaaaaa!

Imagine the glee on the left if he’d been killed. That’s what seperates us from them.

Tony737 on February 27, 2007 at 12:37 PM

All the terrorists did was piss him off. Go get ‘em, Mr. VP.

Mallard T. Drake on February 27, 2007 at 12:40 PM

Oh, and lest we forget, Musharraf also wrested control from the I.S.I. and probably is still struggling to prevent them taking it back–they were the ones who had their hands on the nukes, who hired A.Q. Kahn to build them and who backed and are still trying to back the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Jen the Neocon on February 27, 2007 at 12:40 PM

Manamallah??

Ugly on February 27, 2007 at 12:50 PM

He’ll probably just go for another deferment.

I could take a cheap shot at Clinton for his disdain of the military or how he went to the UK to smoke pot and protest the Vietnam War in the late 60s ….. but I’m above that.

At least Cheney recognizes who the enemy is, isn’t afraid to say so and goes after them. BJ didn’t know a terrorist from a jaywalker, took a poll to determine foreign policy and then sent Sandy the Burglar to cover up a policy that was a not only a complete failure, but a policy that encouraged the terrorists to bring about the travesty of 9/11.

fogw on February 27, 2007 at 12:56 PM

Jen the Neocon on February 27, 2007 at 12:37 PM

Jen, you stole my thunder…….. good points and questions.

Hey honora,

That has been a problem that I have had since the beginning. Can you please educate us all on the last National Security briefing that you attended with ALL the classified intelligence from all different departments, from all over the world? Please?

I am not asking for the talking points from the Dem’s in Congress, nor what has been leaked to the NY Times, I am asking for the “real intelligence” that can cause ships to sail, and men to die……… Go ahead, tell us?

Tell us how this intelligence changes……… Tell us how this inteligence is used…… Tell us how important it is to keep a secret how this intelligence is gathered as not to compromise our agents and sources…….. Go ahead, I am waiting?

You are pathetic!

When I read those comments made by your “side” of the isle regarding the close call Vice President Cheney had, it made my eyes red with anger.

You have no clue, idea, or rational on what is actually going on in this world!

Please, keep submitting your comments so I can continue to see how idiotic you truly are……….

PinkyBigglesworth on February 27, 2007 at 1:06 PM

You have no clue, idea, or rational on what is actually going on in this world!

Please, keep submitting your comments so I can continue to see how idiotic you truly are……….

PinkyBigglesworth on February 27, 2007 at 1:06 PM

So why not retreat to your side of the “isle” (sic) and I will to mine? I certainly do not enjoy talking with you, nor do you with me. Let’s agree to ignore each other, shall we? I’ll even respond for you:

Honora you have no clue, you are pathetic, you are idiotic, have no “rational” (sic)…..that’s about it I think.

honora on February 27, 2007 at 1:14 PM

Oh, and lest we forget, Musharraf also wrested control from the I.S.I. and probably is still struggling to prevent them taking it back–they were the ones who had their hands on the nukes, who hired A.Q. Kahn to build them and who backed and are still trying to back the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Jen the Neocon on February 27, 2007 at 12:40 PM

Your defense of Musharraf reminds me of the rationale we had for supporting Saddam versus the Iranians. (And yes, I realize Saddam had a lot more bad stuff, but the point is we supported him because we felt it was in our best interests. Same shit, different day.)

Lord, talk about what goes around comes around!!!!

honora on February 27, 2007 at 1:23 PM

In order to get to Cheney on the airfield, one would have to go past the front gate, the secondary gate, past Tango 25, then past the Guardtower on Disney, down the length of Disney (around a mile) through bumper to bumper traffic, past atleast 400 gun wielding people on the sidewalks, then turn right and go through the SP’s gate.

So, “near miss” isn’t all that appropos.

E5infantry on February 27, 2007 at 11:53 AM

I used to have to walk that #$%& distance every flippin’ day from August ’04 to March ’05. Wasn’t close at all. BTW – it is no secret when a bigshot goes to BAF. Everytime some special plane landed (usually in the blue and white of some US Dept) we knew it was rocket attack time the next day. This was simply a showy attack that didn’t do much except blow up an area full of kids and truck drivers. But all the usual suspects will use it to slant/spin/point out that which they wish.

major john on February 27, 2007 at 1:26 PM

Your defense of Musharraf reminds me of the rationale we had for supporting Saddam versus the Iranians. (And yes, I realize Saddam had a lot more bad stuff, but the point is we supported him because we felt it was in our best interests. Same shit, different day.)

I don’t know how much “support” we gave to Saddam vs. the Iranians and neither do you–I think it was limited to giving them intelligence from our satellites as to where Iranian troops were located, but that’s about it.
(No, Lefties, we did not give Saddam chemical or any other weapons to fight the Iranians, as they maintain. We don’t do that.)
We back Musharraf because to the best of his ability, he backs us and tries as best he can to fight Al Queda and extremism in his own country while maintaining it as a Muslim country and while he himself is a Muslim.
Waziristan will not be tamed in a day a week or a year, but it if is, it won’t be with the help of sneering naysayers like honora and her Dhimmi friends.
Getting those nukes out of the hands of the ISI, bringing AQ Kahn to justice and refusing to back the Taliban after the 9/11 attacks and from then until the present day when the Taliban has tried to kill VP Cheney are big, important things as is encouraging Pakistan to come to the peace table with the Indians–they have almost gone to war at least 3 times in the past 5-10 years!
President Bush signed a wonderful nuclear disarmament pact with India, too, which I’m sure honora knows nothing about.
Musharraf isn’t our puppet, but he is our good friend and strong ally and he is dragging Pakistan kicking and screaming into the 21st Century because he knows it’s good for peace and it’s good for Pakistan (and it helps the West.)
If you think his job at penetrating mountainous Waziristan to go get OBL and his supporters is so easy and possible, I suggest you suit up, hire a team of mercenaries and go get ‘em. You should have relatively few problems accessing the area from the Afghanistan side…heheheheheheheh.
SSDD from you, missie!

Jen the Neocon on February 27, 2007 at 1:36 PM

I found the best way to take care of a child like Honora is to ignore her. Let her post her lies, this is all she has. The poor girl.

right2bright on February 27, 2007 at 1:48 PM

Tony737 on February 27, 2007 at 12:37 PM

hehehe….well somebody got it.

csdeven on February 27, 2007 at 1:52 PM

So why not retreat to your side of the “isle” (sic) and I will to mine?

honora on February 27, 2007 at 1:14 PM

Not a chance in He*l!

PinkyBigglesworth on February 27, 2007 at 2:11 PM

Musharraf isn’t our puppet, but he is our good friend and strong ally

C’mon, we have no allies. Musharraf has played nice because after 9/11 we basically said “play nice or die.” And since Musharraf isn’t as committed as some Muslims to the idea of martyrdom, he wasn’t thrilled at the prospect of death at the hands of an angry Great Satan. But since he now knows that Iraq has whittled away our desire to do “dirty work” anymore, he doesn’t have to scratch our back anymore.

I’m not sure I can buy your assertion that he wants to drag Pakistan into the 21st century. I think he’s been motivated by that which motivates us all – self-interest. It was in his self-interest to help us after 9/11 and be our puppet, but now it no longer is. I think it’s risky to ascribe any noble motives to this Musharraf creep.

Enrique on February 27, 2007 at 2:13 PM

“Takes power via a military coup, protects people who sell nuclear secrets to North Korea–with “friends” like these….”
honora on February 27, 2007 at 12:07 PM

What did the Clintons have to do with this?

Zetterson on February 27, 2007 at 2:13 PM

I like honora though guys so take it easy on her. I think many of us might be a little quick to shoot down what it is she is saying. She seems very rational to me though and very smart too. She tends to disagree with us on just about everything though so if you think about it that just makes her the perfect person to have these discussions with. So be nice.

Zetterson on February 27, 2007 at 2:17 PM

I like honora though guys so take it easy on her. I think many of us might be a little quick to shoot down what it is she is saying. She seems very rational to me though and very smart too. She tends to disagree with us on just about everything though so if you think about it that just makes her the perfect person to have these discussions with. So be nice.

Zetterson on February 27, 2007 at 2:17 PM

Well thank you Zetterson! Actually, the majority of folks here are great–they enjoy the debate. The actual number of people who are really disagreeable is few. And there actually are more that have a lot to teach me.

Kinda like real life, the good guys outnumber the bad.

honora on February 27, 2007 at 2:28 PM

on Michelle’s page she has a downloadable file of the moonbat’s comments
this is some horribly disturbing shit!

Defector01 on February 27, 2007 at 2:31 PM

Michelle has a downloadable file of moonbat comments on her website
Its reallly disturbing stuff

Defector01 on February 27, 2007 at 2:31 PM

Zetterson on February 27, 2007 at 2:17 PM

Caught in too many lies and plagerism’s. You can cut her slack, the fact that she is still allowed to post shows the level of patience HA has. She isn’t here to learn.

right2bright on February 27, 2007 at 2:40 PM

Wow, I was just over Townhall.com and a liberal in the comments under a post by Dean Barnett says we sit around talking about shooting illegals and nuking Mecca…who knew..

EnochCain on February 27, 2007 at 3:03 PM

EnochCain on February 27, 2007 at 3:03 PM

Darn, how did they ever find out about Rove’s and Cheney’s plan. They didn’t mention how we were first going to reinstitute slavery, starve the poor, pollute the rivers, run them gays outta town…that would ruin plan A, wait till they see plan B.

right2bright on February 27, 2007 at 3:12 PM

Kinda like real life, the good guys outnumber the bad.

Huh? What color is the sky on your world?

Bush knew.

Enrique on February 27, 2007 at 3:18 PM

Michelle has a downloadable file of moonbat comments on her website Its reallly disturbing stuff

I read those comments at HuffPo. Can I question their patriotism now? Cuz I’m going to whether they like it or not. Cuz they are (in this case) literally rooting for the terrorists over their own democratically elected VP. So, um, yeah. I’m going to go ahead and question their patriotism anytime I damn well please. In fact, I’m going to make a t-shirt that says, “I DO question your patriotism and you DON’T support the troops.” What idiots. Why don’t they just move to Canada already?

foxforce91 on February 27, 2007 at 3:52 PM

“Kinda like real life, the good guys outnumber the bad.”
-honora on February 27, 2007 at 2:28 PM

Hey I thought you were a female?

Zetterson on February 27, 2007 at 4:08 PM

“Kinda like real life, the good guys outnumber the bad.”
-honora on February 27, 2007 at 2:28 PM

Hey I thought you were a female?

Zetterson on February 27, 2007 at 4:08 PM

I am. One with happily low standards….
;^)

honora on February 27, 2007 at 4:14 PM

Huh? What color is the sky on your world?

Bush knew.

Enrique on February 27, 2007 at 3:18 PM

Hey you better be nice to me or I might bring up that other thing. (Od-gay…)

honora on February 27, 2007 at 4:15 PM

Michelle’s and Townhall has some great stuff. Must be a proud day to be a liberal. Each time these things happen, I shake my head at the leftist liberals who have a problem with conservatives. They worry about a few bills or BUSH THE DICTATOR, while their (liberal, left, DNC) want the VP dead.

Nothing like being a liberal in springtime…attack people in homes, spray paint monuments to freedom, storm the stages of conservative speakers, wish for the death of the opposing party, select criminals to committees, Murtha the ABSCAM man be your spokesperson. Feel the love.

right2bright on February 27, 2007 at 4:22 PM

Sorry folks, as far as I’m concnerned, Honora is dead on with her take on Musharraf. I trust him about as far as I can throw him. He is a fair weather friend and like someone else mentioned earlier is really only in it for himself. As soon as he sees there’s nothing more that might be gained from his friendship with us, he’ll quit doing anything to rein in terrorists in his country. In my book, he ranks right up there with the Saudi’s. These people are not our friends, not our allies and are Muslim countries. It is impossible for us to be trusting of these leaders and their countries and you mark my words, our “trust” we are placing in them is going to come back and bite us in the ass at a later date. The only reasons any of these Muslim countries feign friendship is because they fear us. Might is right and intimidation is the only thing these barbaric countries understand. The sooner we wake up to this fact, the sooner we will stop thinking we can have friendly, democratic countries in the ME with predominant Muslim populations. Hasn’t happened yet, will never happen. These are a people that have not followed the same evolutionary tree we did. we need to accept this fact and go back to making sure that we keep one hand on their neck and the other on a rifle just to be sure they understand what waits for them if they get “uppity”.

rayvet on February 27, 2007 at 4:52 PM

I know of another way we can take care of the Taliban camps in Pakistan, but the Levin Doctrine is not allowed to be promoted here….

Tim Burton on February 27, 2007 at 5:15 PM

The response of the left was predictable, unfortunately.

CJ at LGF makes the issue of liberal disapointment perfectly clear:

And it’s even sicker than it appears at first glance, because many of these freaks want to see Cheney dead so that he can’t become president if someone assassinates President Bush.

Michelle notes that Huffpoop “closed” the comments after *437* of them.

AJ Strata adds:

The sickness of liberal obessesion has not abated on the left. In fact it has grown to only become like a gangrene, killing off any good life amongst the poisonous rot.

The behavior of these liberal Democrats makes me want to sic my dog on them.

georgej on February 27, 2007 at 5:28 PM

right2bright:

Nothing like being a liberal in springtime…attack people in homes, spray paint monuments to freedom, storm the stages of conservative speakers, wish for the death of the opposing party, select criminals to committees, Murtha the ABSCAM man be your spokesperson. Feel the love.

You nailed them, brother!

georgej on February 27, 2007 at 5:33 PM

georgej on February 27, 2007 at 5:33 PM

Brother from another mother.

right2bright on February 27, 2007 at 5:38 PM

Update: Lefties lament the near-miss.

Finally, proof that the Left supports the troops…

The Taliban Troops….

Tim Burton on February 27, 2007 at 6:11 PM

Did the Taliban really know Cheney was at Bagram? Two different spokesmen from the group claim they did, but there’s no way to tell if it was just lucky timing and they’re taking credit opportunistically.

The question is worth asking, from the standpoint of our aim to understand as well as we can what really happened. However, it seems just and often advantageous to the country to retaliate harshly against a group that even merely claims to have tried to assassinate a President or Vice President. I wonder if it’s not just as important to do so in the case of a falsified claim as in the case of one that’s been verified.

Kralizec on February 27, 2007 at 6:17 PM

rayvet on February 27, 2007 at 4:52 PM

Heh, now if we can get honora to agree with you, we’re in business…

Entelechy on February 27, 2007 at 6:41 PM

India doesn’t trust Pakistan as far it is can throw it, but they still have found common ground on which to work with Musharraf. They’ll get hit first and hardest by anything coming from that direction, so it’s very worthwhile keeping an eye on what they do and say. The tribal areas have never been under Pakistan central governmental control, ever. Who’s to say it isn’t easier right now to proclaim them somewhat independent? That way, everyone gets a chance to play it how they want. Including womping them without interfering in Pakistan’s no-longer-internal affairs. Jury should be out on this one until we see how it plays out.
It was brilliant diplomacy to put out to the world, “You are with us or against us. No third option.” It forced nations to decide which side of the line they were on. It produced eye-opening results. How many people would have guessed Pakistan would work with us, but not Germany or France? Every single nation on the planet works in its own self-interest. It’s only the US that gets criticized for it.

naliaka on February 27, 2007 at 7:51 PM

The behavior of these liberal Democrats makes me want to sic my dog on them.

georgej on February 27, 2007 at 5:28 PM

That’s cruelty to animals and I’ll report you to the SPCA!

The best way for us to minimize the ME and it’s influence on US politics is to get off the ME oil teet. Alternative fuels, domestic oil, etc.

Yeah, I know…fantasy land!

csdeven on February 27, 2007 at 8:19 PM

The behavior of these liberal Democrats makes me want to sic my dog on them.

georgej on February 27, 2007 at 5:28 PM

They are dogs.

Nice, I just got through a anti-Cheney thread at Huffpo, where OBL was being more respected. This post about sums it up:

OBL was long ago eliminated by the Cheney hit team…OBL knew too much, and could not be permitted to live.

Paul Wellstone knew too much about Cheney, too. He knew Cheney was lying about Iraq ad 911. So the Cheney team “neutralized” him.

If they would kill Senator Wellstone (and how many others), d’ya think they would not wipe out OBL within months of 911 to cover their own butts? They killed Saddam for the same reason…he had too much documented proof against cheney-bushco and bush41, and probably he knew the truth about 911, too. That’s why all the computers and paper files were destroyed by “looters” when our troops moved into Baghdad.

reaganaut on February 27, 2007 at 8:48 PM

reaganaut on February 27, 2007 at 8:48 PM

That is a classic. This is what the liberal leftist Dems actually believe.

All you Dems who cruise through here, this is your party…enjoy it. This is the mindset that is part of your political party…enjoy it.
I sure am.

right2bright on February 27, 2007 at 8:52 PM

If Shotgun Dick was going Dove Hunting, he wouldn’t be in Afghanistan, he’d of gone to Congress…

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on February 27, 2007 at 11:25 AM

Perfect! Still laughing.

Zorro on February 27, 2007 at 9:42 PM

What a great thread of comments and insight. Several here are hitting on all cylinders. Even the comedy is above average. As well as the deprevity as usual. Kinda the whole book on Musharraf.

Now compare this thread with one of the average lefty-havens? If that doesn’t speak volumes I don’t know what does. It’s a shame though… I’ve realized that their breed aren’t ever going to understand that which speak volumes. Just makes me hope for war. With them. Ha-ha just kidding.

Not really. No, no, no just kidding. ;) Buy guns just in case.

As for Honora, she must despise hanging with her ilk. Or she spends an awful lot of time on political threads. I doubt the latter. She’s really just becoming atmosphere. Not impactful enough to encourage a seeker and obvious enough to those with a positive information flow. Her comedy wasn’t that bad and at least she’s not openly wishing for Dick’s death.

Dick Cheney is my hero. The best VP ever in our history to not reach the potus pulpit. A wonderful man. I worry for him and his family. The man literally livbe to serve. If he really retires he’ll go fast and then all the communist pigs will have their wish.

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Griz on February 27, 2007 at 11:24 PM

literally lives to serve.

spelling correction.

Griz on February 27, 2007 at 11:27 PM

Speaking of communist pigs. On days like this when you read what they are seriously thinking and writing down for the world to see… did we really win the cold war? I’m wondering. I think we’ve been overtaken.

Are our communist college professors taking our country down? Year by year? Graduation class by graduation class?

Griz on February 27, 2007 at 11:31 PM

OBL was long ago eliminated by the Cheney hit team…OBL knew too much, and could not be permitted to live.

reaganaut on February 27, 2007 at 8:48 PM

One shouldn’t anwer dummies – but thanks for sharing this idiosyncrasy reaganaut :)

They can’t criticize Bush/Cheney for not finding OBL and at once for also eliminating him :) Huffpoos!

Entelechy on February 27, 2007 at 11:46 PM

s/b answer – correction.

Also, reaganaut, aside from that Huffpoos’ take, I do believe that OBL is no more, but not because of the secrets, just simply because these two buildings in NY are no more.

Entelechy on February 27, 2007 at 11:55 PM

If he is gone, he left since the NK missile launches last July.

News2Use on February 28, 2007 at 12:05 AM

Sorry folks, as far as I’m concnerned, Honora is dead on with her take on Musharraf.

rayvet on February 27, 2007 at 4:52 PM

Well, agian, I have to disagree.

OK, let me take that back, I will give honora and rayvet another chance to expain themselves…..

We live in a very dangerous, complex world.

All of our top security meetings and the way we gather intelligence is not open to the NYTIMES, regardless of the leakers…….

The point is, we don’t want to tip our hand as to what we know, because we don’t want the “bad guys” to know what we know, until it is too late……. simple enough for you?

Harping, complaining, protesting, marching, go ahead, knock yourself out, but realize we have a very savy enemy that uses your faces and words, edits them to propogandize a media controlled populous.

Oh, you didn’t think about that….. apparently.

You are in their history books, their papers, their cartoons, their CNN. And no, you will not get a royalty… just infamy, your words, your picture, for your family, if they get the chance, to read and see and hide from.

If you change your mind when your throat is getting cut, and “you have a moment of clarity before you die” or not, it does not matter. Your “school yard politics” have sealed your fait.

There is a point “why” our meetings with our allies are held in secret.

rayvet and honora, let me ask you this question….. if you are playing a football game, would it be wise to give the opposing team not only your game plan, but communications into your team as the game is being played? As well as having the cheer leaders to have the home team support the opposition?

And if you did, thinking that you would have the same access, and they blocked your transmissions, gave you a faulty game plan, and then beat you……… would you complain?

This world is not a college campus debate club, your points of view, in my opinion, are very dangerous, to the safety of the United States of America.

One last question, do you have any children? I do, and THAT is why I choose to fight for our survival!

Other points of view are always welcome……… with Respect to all.

PinkyBigglesworth on February 28, 2007 at 2:04 AM

PinkyBigglesworth, you didn’t address any issues that I have with being friends with a Muslim country like Pakistan. My comment was to be interpreted that we should not be trusting these primitive societies to be our allies in the war on terror. Period. There’s no such thing as the lesser of two evils. Evil is evil period. Yes I have a 7 year old girl, and as soon as she’s old enough to understand, I plan on explaining to her that there’s no such thing as a good Muslim community or society and she needs to be aware of that while she’s growing up. In the short time I’ve read and contributed to this site (only a few months), I’ve read and agreed with a lot of your posts, but this last one I’m not really sure I understand. So you think that my point of view that we should not trust and be allied with the Pakistani regime is dangerous? Sorry, I don’t buy that. Our belief that we can have Muslim allies is dangerous in my mind. There’s no such thing. I’m not sure if you misread my post or have confused me with someone else, but the bottom line is we need to wake the world up to the fact that the Muslim and Islamic practices do not agree with the rest of the worlds desires to live in peace and harmony. Hell, it doesn’t even profess tolerance. So don’t attack my philosophies because I don’t see the point in being friend with these barbarians. Please do a better job of explaining to me how my point of view and philosophy is dangerous. I want to fight for our survival, and putting our faith in the likes of Mussharaf is a misdirected alliance.

rayvet on February 28, 2007 at 6:29 AM

OBL was long ago eliminated by the Cheney hit team…OBL knew too much, and could not be permitted to live.

Paul Wellstone knew too much about Cheney, too. He knew Cheney was lying about Iraq ad 911. So the Cheney team “neutralized” him.

If they would kill Senator Wellstone (and how many others), d’ya think they would not wipe out OBL within months of 911 to cover their own butts? They killed Saddam for the same reason…he had too much documented proof against cheney-bushco and bush41, and probably he knew the truth about 911, too. That’s why all the computers and paper files were destroyed by “looters” when our troops moved into Baghdad

I love this stuff, I really do.

JackM on February 28, 2007 at 9:00 AM