Video: “A World Without America”
posted at 2:17 pm on February 21, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Far be it from me to tell them how to run an ad campaign, but doesn’t the part about Israel here actually cut against their argument in the UK?
It’s from 18 Doughty Street, the Britblogger online TV outfit about which I’ve written before. It’s well intentioned and well executed, but this ol’ pessimist heart finds it hard to believe it’ll change many minds given the state of the Kingdom. As Martin Amis said last month in response to a question about the most depressing thing he’s observed since returning to Britain:
The most depressing thing was the sight of middle-class white demonstrators, last August, waddling around under placards saying, We Are All Hizbollah Now. Well, make the most of being Hizbollah while you can. As its leader, Hasan Nasrallah, famously advised the West: “We don’t want anything from you. We just want to eliminate you.” Similarly, when I went on Question Time the other week, a woman in the audience, her voice quavering with self-righteousness, presented the following argument: since it was America that supported Osama bin Laden when he was fighting the Russians, the US armed forces, in response to September 11, “should be dropping bombs on themselves!” And the audience applauded. It is quite an achievement. People of liberal sympathies, stupefied by relativism, have become the apologists for a creedal wave that is racist, misogynist, homophobic, imperialist, and genocidal. To put it another way, they are up the arse of those that want them dead.
As this is hitting the airwaves, the Muslim Council of Britain is complaining that state schools have failed to accommodate Muslim students by allowing communal showering in school locker rooms, neglecting to build prayer areas, and following a sex education curriculum that tolerates “girlfriend/boyfriend” relationships which offend “Islamic moral perspectives.” Good luck, boys.
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Nice to learn someone likes us. sigh
Kini on February 21, 2007 at 2:22 PM
The US supported the northern alliance against Russia (the same people we support now). We didn’t support the Taliban. They came later on.
lorien1973 on February 21, 2007 at 2:23 PM
The lessions of WWII have long been forgotten. It seems we have to learn them over again. Millions have to die before the world will face up to any threat. Europe wants to wrap itself in a false sense of security in the belief tahtwe have been at peace for decades and its because everyone wants peace.
There will always be those that dont want peace and you have to stand up to them else things will only get worse.
William Amos on February 21, 2007 at 2:25 PM
Every generation has to relearn them. Because people don’t remember the past, only their version of the past - some facts conveniently omitted or altered.
lorien1973 on February 21, 2007 at 2:26 PM
I think the part about Israel does miss the mark because it seems many people in the UK think it would have been best if Israel had been wiped out in ‘67 or ‘73.
Things are going to have to get much worse before the UK remembers how to tell friend from foe again.
Maybe 18 Doughty St should include a fictitious news report of English refugees crossing the Atlantic in 2040.
forest on February 21, 2007 at 2:33 PM
I call shenanigans.
Everyone knows that a world without America would mean a perfect utopia, with every last human being in the world holding hands and smiling beatifically at one another, whilst singing in perfect harmony.
This is because everything America does is bad.
As a corollary to this, everything America fails to do is worse.
Citizen Duck on February 21, 2007 at 2:34 PM
So, by these nubbskulls’ reasoning, the buildup of the USSR was our fault because we allied ourselves with them during WWII. So, we should have nuked ourselves. Err, something.
BigOrangeAxe on February 21, 2007 at 2:35 PM
Well said AP!
Pam on February 21, 2007 at 2:40 PM
An excellent tribute to America but I don’t think it goes back far enough in history. A world without America would be a world without England, France, Italy, Spain, China, The Philippines, Etc., Etc, Etc.
It’s not just England, it’s most of Europe as well.
Europe needs to remember that America has pulled Europe’s ass out of the pages of history several times in the last century. I guess WWI and WWII are too far in the past for Europe to remember what America has done and what a world without us would mean.
RedinBlueCounty on February 21, 2007 at 2:43 PM
A world without America would mean the Third Reich would still control Europe, Imperial Japan would control most of Asia, and after the Nazi’s ran out of Jews they would start on the Muslim.
Not that this argument would mean one camel hair to the Islamofacist.
omegaram on February 21, 2007 at 2:43 PM
As soon as we figure out what we’re doing to make the world hate us, let’s do more of it to the Mexicans.
RedWinged Blackbird on February 21, 2007 at 2:49 PM
RedinBlue,
Resentment of US military bases and sundry scorn is all we will get from Europe for our participation in the WWs. “US Occupation! No Nukes! etc”
It reminds me of those kids I knew in H.S. and college who drove around in BMWs and griped about how much they hated their parents.
I get a little frustrated with our friends over there at times…
forest on February 21, 2007 at 2:51 PM
Wow. Just. Wow.
And to think, the rest of us were against bombing ourselves following 9-11. My eyes are surely open now.
Does that also mean that any time any former ally does something against said ally that the victim should “bomb itself”?
So when America decided to have its revolution against Britian, that means that Britian should have just bombed itself?
Or since Russia was our ally against Hitler, instead of fighting a Cold War against Russia, we should have been fighting it against ourselves. Forget executing the Rosenburgs. We should have been executing our own administration.
I can’t believe I didn’t get this logic before.
Esthier on February 21, 2007 at 2:51 PM
Now THAT has to be the quote of the month…….
(cue the music)
“I’d like to buy the world a Coke, and sing in perfect harmony…….. I’d like to buy the world a Coke, and live in harmony…….. It’s the real thing…….”
PinkyBigglesworth on February 21, 2007 at 3:03 PM
Saying that the US supported the Taliban is like saying that Wings was the most popular band of all time because everyone liked the Beatles.
BohicaTwentyTwo on February 21, 2007 at 3:10 PM
That’d be a good analogy if i knew who the “wings” were LOL
lorien1973 on February 21, 2007 at 3:14 PM
That was rather nice and well done. Its nice to see something cheerful for once from our friends across the pond
Defector01 on February 21, 2007 at 3:15 PM
RedWinged Blackbird:
Does the expression “bite the hand that feeds you” ring a bell?
Alienating Mexicans would do nothing to stop the border flow, nor the welfare drain.
I mean, American leftists are alienated as can be, and that doesn’t stop them from sucking from the American teat.
Merovign on February 21, 2007 at 3:17 PM
In just over 200 years, freedom and the hope for freedom has completely changed the world. Great vid, thanks guys.
Now , take that same minute and a half and think about this.
A world with out Islam. No idol or fake divinity that tells you ‘convert or be killed’. No threat of death as a primary enforcement and recruiting tool. You can imagine enough from here..
My one main point. What if every human on this planet followed one simple rule, the Golden Rule.
Treat others as you would want to be treated.
FREEDOM and JUSTICE for ALL.
shooter on February 21, 2007 at 3:20 PM
Its like saying we should all go out and buy K-Fed’s album because he danced really well for Britney.
Come to think of it, this analogy is better than the Paul McCartney one.
BohicaTwentyTwo on February 21, 2007 at 4:02 PM
The sad thing about this video is our youth is so brain washed by the moonbats, this video has only had 447 views at u-tube, The left wing loons control the airwaves, so they control the youth. a real pity. God help us all!
abinitioadinfinitum on February 21, 2007 at 4:19 PM
Precisely. The US supported the Mujahedeen who were Afghan nationalist and arab countries (Like the Saudis) supported the foreign Arab Jihadies (Like Bin Labia) Arab Jihadies wouldn’t have taken a dime from the US because we supported Israel. Also, the Taliban didn’t emerge until 1995. So the MSM once again got it wrong via a lack of research or omitted these facts on purpose. (I think it is the later)
x95b10 on February 21, 2007 at 4:22 PM
Sure - a world without America would be a world with more disease, poverty and danger…but this somewhat misses the point.
A world without America would be a world without Iggy and the Stooges!
Let’s all quietly reflect on that.
uptight on February 21, 2007 at 4:29 PM
In Britian though the Islamics just lost a veil appeal
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/6382247.stm
William Amos on February 21, 2007 at 4:30 PM
Any chance we could get a world without rock critics and their precious darlings iggy and the Stooges?
mymanpotsandpans on February 21, 2007 at 4:34 PM
Martin Amis is one of the good guys. I’m reading his new novel “House of Meetings”, which is about the Gulag, and it’s riveting. I can’t think of another novel by a major writer about that subject, which tells you something about the literary intelligentsia.
WasatchMan on February 21, 2007 at 4:45 PM
I don’t care if it isn’t perfect.
playitplayitplayitplayitplayitplayitplayitplayitspreaditspreaditdpreaditspreaditsenditsenditsenditsendit
The MSM won’t.
naliaka on February 21, 2007 at 4:58 PM
A world without America would be a world where there was nobody to blame for your screwups but yourself.
Tantor on February 21, 2007 at 5:05 PM
Hmm. Tried to post a sarcastic commet to the effect of YouTube being asleep at the wheel for not having removed the video yet, but the comment has yet to show up on the YT site.
ej_pez on February 21, 2007 at 5:08 PM
Britain supported Hitler when he took over Austria and Czechoslovakia, so the British should have been shooting down their own planes during the Battle of Britain.
And the Russians supported Hitler when he took over Poland, so the Russians should have been shelling themselves after the Wehrmacht invaded.
Typical moonbattery.
The myth that Bin-Laden was working for the CIA in Afghanistan is very widespread in Eurabia. I have friends who are quite reasonable and otherwise well-disposed toward the US repeat it to me.
LagunaDave on February 21, 2007 at 5:15 PM
He also wrote a novel about Stalin called Koba the Dread. In the prefice he wrote about a meeting he attended where Christopher Hitchens was speaking. Hitchens began by remembering how many years earlier he used to meet with fellow Trotskyites at that very location and the crowd laughed. Amis wondered if the crowd would have been as amused if Hitchens had said he used to meet with fellow Brown shirts the point being that the left often was blind to the murderous among them.
Bill C on February 21, 2007 at 5:27 PM
A lot of people ragging on the Brits, and I don’t know why. We have disagreements, sure. But they should stay in the family. And we ARE family. No other nations in history approach the relationship between the US and UK. Remember that.
HerrMorgenholz on February 21, 2007 at 7:07 PM
Yeah, you’re right AP, if you don’t believe in anything, then you are by definition a pessimist.
there it is on February 21, 2007 at 7:23 PM
HerrMorgenholz - totally true.
Average Brits have a great afinity for America and Americans. The shared language means that we can communicate better with visitors from the States. We’ve all grown up with American music, films and TV. The relationship we have with America is so familiar and natural, we barely think about it. You are our first cousins.
If we were being honest we’d admit that we are closer the US than to European neighbours a couple of miles away.
It’s only the British moonbats that hate America - although perhaps not as much as American moonbats hate America.
uptight on February 21, 2007 at 7:35 PM
mymanpotsandpans - well take your pick.
The Velvets, Elvis, Kinky Friedman…
uptight on February 21, 2007 at 7:37 PM
Without America…who would buy the world a Coke, and keep it company?
JetBoy on February 21, 2007 at 8:40 PM
I applaud the creators of that film for their integrity, regardless of how little influence it is likely to ever have. A nice little piece of work.
Freelancer on February 21, 2007 at 8:51 PM
Finally, we have seen the video that is cracking the terrorist detainees at Club Gitmo…….. the horror, the horror…. does this mean that without America, we wouldn’t have the ACLU?
PinkyBigglesworth on February 21, 2007 at 9:05 PM
America Shrugged for a while, would be fantastic. Maybe some hearts would grow fonder…even some of those who take her for granted.
Somewhat dated, but favorite articles:
A world without America and
Still a colossus, and how can one ‘love’ a colossus, especially when one is a flea?
Entelechy on February 21, 2007 at 10:05 PM
Perhaps if I’d linked to Iggy’s song “I am a conservative”, my suggestion would have met a warmer response…
uptight on February 21, 2007 at 10:35 PM
Now let’s imagine a world without Iran and Saudi Arabia.
Oil shortages would lead to greater ethanol production - meaning that the price of cornflakes might go up.
er…
um…
oh - and intricately designed carpets would be harder to find.
uptight on February 21, 2007 at 10:44 PM
Most of what makes America great came from Britain.
But I fear that they might be turning their back on all that in favor of EU delusions.
sandberg on February 21, 2007 at 11:00 PM