NYT reports on voter turnout, ignores own story’s most obvious possibility

posted at 11:30 am on February 21, 2007 by Bryan

From my friend MR in Texas comes a link to this story from the Old Gray Lady of the Evening. It’s a story about the lower rates of voter turnout in states that require some form of ID versus those states that don’t require squat before letting people exercise the franchise. Not necessarily their franchise, mind you. Watch as the Times dances on the head of a fake voter’s pen.

States that imposed identification requirements on voters reduced turnout at the polls in the 2004 presidential election by about 3 percent, and by two to three times as much for minorities, new research suggests.

What a loaded lead! “States that imposed identification…” How about “States that made sure voters are who they say they are…” or “States that battle voter fraud by asking voters to prove identity before casting ballots…” Of course, the second would require the Times to use the f-word — fraud — a word it never uses in a story that should obviously deal with voter fraud. Bias by omission. We continue:

The study, prepared by scholars at Rutgers and Ohio State Universities for the federal Election Assistance Commission, supports concerns among voting-rights advocates that blacks and Hispanics could be disproportionately affected by ID requirements. But federal officials say more research is needed to draw firmer conclusions about the effects on future elections.

If true, there are a few ways to look at this. One, minority voters are being disenfranchised somehow by being asked for ID even though it’s pretty much impossible to conduct any other commerce without some evidence of ID. You can’t get on a plane without ID, for instance. Two, some of these potential voters may not be here legally. That, along with fraud, is a possibility that the Times dare not raise. Three, the NAACP and other racial lobbying organizations routinely run scare campaigns telling minorities that giving proof of ID at polls is a form of discrimination or intimidation. That alone might scare off potential minority voters, and those groups can then turn around and use the depressed voting stats to mau mau other more stringent states into dropping their ID requirements. This Times story seems to be a good example of that dynamic at work. Four, fraud. Where there are lower or no ID requirements, you’re inviting fraud. The Times just can’t see that as a possibility, though.

Tim Vercellotti, a professor at the Eagleton Institute of Politics at Rutgers University who helped conduct the study, said that in the states where voters were required to sign their names or present identifying documents like utility bills, blacks were 5.7 percent less likely to vote than in states where voters simply had to say their names.

Dr. Vercellotti said Hispanics appeared to be 10 percent less likely to vote under those requirements, while the combined rate for people of all races was 2.7 percent.

Ah-ha! So it’s not just minority voting that’s down in states that require ID. It’s true across all racial strata. There are two ways to look at this. One, the lower turnout in ID states is a reflection of intimidation, lack of proper ID among minority groups (which makes little sense given the difficulty of conducting everyday commerce without some form of ID) or something else bad. Two, the higher turnout in non-ID states is a reflection of either a lack of intimidation or, you guessed it, increased fraud in those states. The vote tally in non-ID states may be off by nearly 3 percent just because of voter fraud, made possible by the lack of ID standards and requirements! The Times just doesn’t see this possibility.

Go read the rest of the story. It’s a fascinating exercise in picking at gnats while ignoring the elephant in the middle of the polling place.

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When I vote, I have My ID out and I show it to the registers, if they want me to or not. I do it just to see their reaction.
many times they tell me thank you, sometimes they just look at me funny.
THe Dems have been fighting this in my state for a LOOOOOONG time.

-Wasteland Man.

WastelandMan on February 21, 2007 at 11:45 AM

supports concerns among voting-rights advocates that blacks and Hispanics could be disproportionately affected by ID requirements.

So do fewer blacks and hispanics drive because they’re disproportionately affected by the state requirement to have a drivers license?

darwin on February 21, 2007 at 11:47 AM

Does the Times kinda realize the obvious connections in their stories?

Defector01 on February 21, 2007 at 11:49 AM

Does the Times kinda realize the obvious connections in their stories?

Yes, that’s why they omit them.

darwin on February 21, 2007 at 11:49 AM

Reminds me of that scene in Gangs of New York when they had the irish people committing voter fraud by having them shave and wear hats an’ stuff, so they could push through an Irish-friendly politician.

Democrats do the same thing today, just with other kinds of illegal aliens.

Viewtifulgare on February 21, 2007 at 11:52 AM

It’s amazing that the same people who are insanely worried about “stolen elections” don’t want to do everything possible to ensure that all elections are fair.

What could they be worried about, I wonder?

Chad on February 21, 2007 at 11:55 AM

Truth to power:

ID requirements = Oh no they will discover my warrants and my bad debts.

Racist? You tell me.

Limerick on February 21, 2007 at 12:00 PM

voting rights advocates

People satisfied with the status quo which allows election results to be determined by the courts, or any other means -with the exception of verified legal voters.

fogw on February 21, 2007 at 12:00 PM

The Treason Times doesn’t mention fraud because they’re staunchly committed to defending the franchise of all those dead people who vote Democrat.

ReubenJCogburn on February 21, 2007 at 12:06 PM

I’m 38 years old and am carded every single time I buy beer or wine. But the NYT is worried that the procedure that ensures I am legal to buy alcohol is too intimidating to ensure that I am legal to vote. Which is more important?

cmay on February 21, 2007 at 12:13 PM

Why is it that people switch parties after they die and start voting democrat… ?

ricer1 on February 21, 2007 at 12:24 PM

ID requirements = Oh no they will discover my warrants and my bad debts.

And how ’bout the fact many of them are IN THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY???
12 million to 20 million illegals here, and how many of them vote for our leaders? Vote to allow MORE illegals be let in?
Hell, they are illegally voting to make themselves legal voters.
They find a way to identify themselves for food stamps, free medical needs, buying cars, any of dozens of government subsidized items… but we won’t ask them for an ID to vote for our very own LAWMAKERS???

Kinda like being on the jury for your own criminal case, plus voting for who passes judgment on that case. Think about it.

No ID, NO VOTE! Most of them certainly have not earned the right.

shooter on February 21, 2007 at 12:26 PM

Darwin…Bravo on both comments!!!

DoctorDentons on February 21, 2007 at 12:37 PM

ID requirements = Oh no they will discover my warrants and my bad debts.

Racist? You tell me.

Racist? If you have warrants and/or bad debts, what does that have to do with your race? I find that comment itself to be implicitly racist.

IrishEyes on February 21, 2007 at 12:42 PM

reduced turnout at the polls in the 2004 presidential election by about 3 percent, and by two to three times as much for minorities, new research suggests.

New research suggests? How about letting us know when that research actually shows a link between voter ID requirement and reduced voter turnout? I guess thats too much to ask of the NYT.

in the states where voters were required to sign their names or present identifying documents like utility bills, blacks were 5.7 percent less likely to vote than in states where voters simply had to say their names.

So, signing your name is suppressing minority voter turnout? How did they determine that?

You have to sign your name AND produce a legal ID every time you cash a check yet I doubt that this requirement is reducing the number of minorities that cash checks.

Every state has a residency requirement when registering to vote and you haver to sign your name to the voter registration application and show some proof of residency. Does this study show that this requirement is lowering the voter registration participation as well? Inquiring minds want to know.

RedinBlueCounty on February 21, 2007 at 12:57 PM

Oh, NO!!! FEWER ILLEGAL VOTES!!!! What an apostacy.

JustTruth101 on February 21, 2007 at 1:39 PM

Truth to power:

ID requirements = Oh no they will discover my warrants and my bad debts.

Racist? You tell me.

Limerick on February 21, 2007 at 12:00 PM

They don’t run any kind of check on you for that. All they do (at least in my case) is look at the ID to make sure it’s you, same as when they check you’re ID to make sure you’re legal to drink.

It’s no different than you telling them your name (which they claim is less intimidating) except that you actually have to be the person you claim to be, or look very much like that person.

Esthier on February 21, 2007 at 1:52 PM

Open borders and no id required to vote.

Talk about a recipe for over throw over the democratic process via buying illegal votes.

One Angry Christian on February 21, 2007 at 2:14 PM

Does the Times kinda realize the obvious connections in their stories?

I can’t remember the details, but I recall a few years back some lefty organizations were upset that even though the crime rates were lower than ever, we had near record prison populations.

So no, cause and effect is rather difficult for some folks it seems.

B Moe on February 21, 2007 at 2:27 PM

2-3% sounds fairly consistent with turning away illegal immigrants who weren’t supposed to be voting in the first place. Especially when it is reportedly a significantly higher percentage than that when “minorities” are taken into account. I would like to know what percentage of those minorities turned away were Hispanics.

tommy1 on February 21, 2007 at 2:38 PM

Racist? If you have warrants and/or bad debts, what does that have to do with your race? I find that comment itself to be implicitly racist.

IrishEyes on February 21, 2007 at 12:42 PM

Oh? It’s now racist to mention that certain races tend to commit crime at higher rates than others? Personally, I tend to believe that it’s the one who sees racism in everything that is the real racist.

Anyway, what’s the big deal about low voter turn out? I think it’s great. After all, most people are idiots and shouldn’t be voting anyway, regardless of who for.

Wolfman on February 21, 2007 at 3:09 PM

never mind….I guess my foggy brain makes foggy fingers.
We all know why the left wants no ID.

Limerick on February 21, 2007 at 3:10 PM

You know, I just don’t understand this. My state has always required ID when voting — at least as far as I know. Everyone has their driver’s license out when they reach the registration table, and I have never heard a single, solitary whine/b*tch/moan about it. This is not a hardship people! I get sick and tired of libs trying to make this something it is not — just to serve their own selfish interests.

lan astaslem on February 21, 2007 at 4:01 PM

The Slimes is practicing the soft bigotry of low expectations: ‘minorities and the poor are too stupid to know how to get a legal ID so they can vote.’

Frankly, if you are a citizen of this country and can not figure out how to get an ID or are to lazy to get an ID, then you aren’t qualified to vote.

Mallard T. Drake on February 21, 2007 at 4:16 PM

I find it interesting (and outrageous) that they lump blacks and hispanics together as if blacks have no legal identity (just like illegal hispanics). By playing the race card, NYT is cautioning us not to crititcize this report as we will be labeled as bigots.

Black voters should be outraged at being labeled by the NYT as being too stupid or too corrupt to carry ID.

Where’s Al and Jesse?

LonelyMassRepublican on February 21, 2007 at 4:24 PM

I agree.

Don’t black people or English-speaking Hispanic people ever get insulted at being condescendingly considered by liberals to be too stupid or helpless to function in America?

Oh wait… I get it.

They all understand that this is just secret code for “rich white men will never allow you to succeed”.

Parley on February 21, 2007 at 5:01 PM

The other verb in the lede is “reduced”. It says “States…reduced voter turnout.”

THAT is loaded.

Blaise on February 21, 2007 at 6:28 PM

You know, I just don’t understand this. My state has always required ID when voting — at least as far as I know. Everyone has their driver’s license out when they reach the registration table, and I have never heard a single, solitary whine/b*tch/moan about it. This is not a hardship people! I get sick and tired of libs trying to make this something it is not — just to serve their own selfish interests.

lan astaslem on February 21, 2007 at 4:01 PM

Here too – it’s one of the few things about Louisiana politics we can brag about. You don’t want to make voter fraud TOO easy, where’s the fun in that? And license or no, the bio-challenged still vote Democratic around here – that’s how we got Sen. Mary Landrieu.

Laura on February 21, 2007 at 8:21 PM

When I vote, I have My ID out and I show it to the registers, if they want me to or not. I do it just to see their reaction.

I did this last November on purpose. The woman at the table just about freaked out, said “Please put that away, you don’t have to show ID to vote”. I told her that I NEVER want anyone to question whether it was me who voted in my name. Suddenly her tone changed a bit. She said that all poll workers were “strongly admonished” to not ask for ID, even though she thought it was a silly thing, since you can’t do anything else important without ID.

Freelancer on February 21, 2007 at 9:48 PM