Video: Hannity on the inconvenient truth of Al Gore
posted at 10:05 pm on February 20, 2007 by Ian
On Sunday’s Hannity America, host Sean Hannity investigated Al Gore’s private airplane travel and noted his hypocrisy when the former Vice President claims to be an environmentalist:
Gore apologist blog News Hounds writes this in defense of Inconvenient Al:
Hannity used records of Gore’s 16 private jet flights during the 1999-2000 campaign season, claiming that those trips show the former Vice President to be a hypocrite. In a disclaimer later in the piece, Hannity admitted that Gore’s office responded that the former Vice President had purchased carbon offsets for the trips, thereby maintaining the carbon neutrality of the jet fuel consumption. Hannity did not let this disclaimer deter him from making all kinds of specious linkages, false analogies and non sequiturs in his report.
For example, he gave statistical information about the carbon imprint of commercial vs private jets, showing that flying in a private jet does four times the carbon emission damage than flying in a commercial jet. Hannity then conflated two terms “carbon imprint” and “carbon neutrality”, once again implying that these terms are interchangeable when they are not, stating “So if you were worried about your quote-unquote ‘carbon footprint’ on the environment and if you’re concerned about carbon neutrality, the last you should be doing is flying on private jets. Sit in coach. You might save a polar bear!”
The point Hannity was trying to make isn’t what Gore adds to the environment to increase global warming, it’s that he is living the life he tells others not to live. In other words, do what I say, not what I do. In laymen terms: Hypocrite!
Al Gore’s office wrote a response prior to Hannity’s investigation:
– Gore lives a strict carbon-neutral lifestyle both in his work and private life. That means he tries to reduce his emissions as much as possible, and then purchases carbon offsets for the remaining emissions.
– In his private life, Gore tries to reduce his emissions as much as possible. He drives a hybrid, flies commercially whenever he can, and purchases green power. In the few instances where work has demanded that he travel privately, he purchases carbon offsets for the emissions.
Because Gore can never “demand” to do what he demands other people to do.
– Gore lives a strict carbon-neutral lifestyle both in his work and private life. That means he tries to reduce his emissions as much as possible, and then purchases carbon offsets for the remaining emissions.
– In his private life, Gore tries to reduce his emissions as much as possible. He drives a hybrid, flies commercially whenever he can, and purchases green power. In the few instances where work has demanded that he travel privately, he purchases carbon offsets for the emissions.
(h/t Noel at Newsbusters)
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What’s a “carbon offset?” It sounds like a plenary indulgence.
Alex K on February 20, 2007 at 10:08 PM
ok…ok…i’ll leave this line alone
Limerick on February 20, 2007 at 10:12 PM
Buying “carbon offset” doesn’t take the carbon from Gore’s private jet out of the air – it just helps Gore rationalize why he isn’t really a hypocrite.
Chad on February 20, 2007 at 10:16 PM
That Kevin Trudeau guy looks at Carbon Offsets and says: “what a bunch of bullshit.”
It’s a bunch of crap, Al spews tons of that stuff he claims destroys the earth into the air regardless of how much he pays to do it.
Liars and fools and the imbeciles who believe them. What else is new.
Reading up on it, it seems to be even more of a huge lie than I first thought.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_offset
benrand on February 20, 2007 at 10:17 PM
Additonally, what really kills me about Gore is that he tries to create this aura of a tech guru, yet his stupid movie was NOT distributed over the web with P2P or torrents, it was good old plastic DVDs that you have to *buy* and that cause immeasurable harm to the environment.
(they don’t, but talking in extreme terms like douchebag liberals is always fun)
benrand on February 20, 2007 at 10:20 PM
Boat motor…two stroke. Weed Wacker motor….two stroke.
Lawn mower…four stroke. Wife’s car….V8. My truck…V8.
Other truck….supposed to be a V8 but I swear it runs like a V7. BBQ….anything that will burn. Cigar….big fat smokey one. Sister-in-law….all hot air.
There Al…I just neutralized your neutralizing.
Limerick on February 20, 2007 at 10:23 PM
Benrand beat me to it. Here’s some more about the offsets (although very biased). It seems like a superficial and meaningless way for eco-nazis to feel better about themselves.
forged rite on February 20, 2007 at 10:23 PM
I wish Hannity (and others) would focus less on the red herrings and that sort of thing and focus more on taking the “arguments” presented by Gore head on. This sort of thing, while true and deserving of occasional mention, will be rightly criticised as fallacious pandering.
Sure, gotcha is fun, but do it in the right context (maybe a throwaway line in an interview or something). If you are going to do an “investigative report”, interview dissenting climatologists or show how Gore uses misleading imagery. Because the fact is that while Gore may or may not be a hypocrite, at the end of the day his hypocrisy–and the harping thereon–doesn’t make a lick of difference in the overall dialog about the issue.
DaveS on February 20, 2007 at 10:23 PM
So Al planted a tree to make up for the damage that the jet fuel did to the environment? I knew there was a dumbing down of America, I just hadn’t realized how stupid people have gotten.
Pam on February 20, 2007 at 10:27 PM
Exactly! He is paying the Church of Liberalism for sins against environmentalism.
MirCat on February 20, 2007 at 10:33 PM
“the former Vice President had purchased carbon offsets for the trips, thereby maintaining the carbon neutrality of the jet fuel consumption”
Ah … “carbon offsets”. Whom did he purchase these offsets from? Some Kyoto offset office? Money is the name of the game. No real reduction, just a slick way to get money without calling it a tax. That’s essentailly the whole gig behind Gore’s Global Warming shtick … grazing money from us ignorant peons.
darwin on February 20, 2007 at 10:41 PM
is he holding his farts?
Ropera on February 20, 2007 at 10:41 PM
As I understand it, they are carbon offsets are purchased from companies that haven’t hit their limits. linky
P.S. More CO2 helps grow better tomaters; which is why it’s good to talk to your plants.
P.P.S. For every tree Al Gore plants John Edwards cuts one down.
- The Cat
MirCat on February 20, 2007 at 10:50 PM
So the system is basically this;
My company makes a widget with 1 ton of carbon emmisions and sells it for $1.
I won’t make that widget if you give me $1.25.
Yeah….sounds like a REAL HONEST system there. Who would possibly wanna cheat on that deal?
Limerick on February 20, 2007 at 10:55 PM
You beat me to it Limerick – I swear I had it copied, ready to paste, then saw your post :)
However, the key word is ‘tries’.
Entelechy on February 20, 2007 at 11:01 PM
I’ve been donating my carbon offsets to high carbon footprinters. They better not be selling them to Gore!
Dusty on February 20, 2007 at 11:07 PM
I sent this to Hannity.
I am a vegetarian and will not wear fur , I belong to PETA.
When I went to the Rocky Mountains last year, via private jet and I got hungry and cold, it was important you see, so I killed a few animals.
I ate the animals ( one doe and one rabbit) and used the fur for a coat.
BUT , when I came back home, I planted a tree, so I am fine with my deeds. I do have some carbon sequestered in the upstairs bathroom as well, for the future I guess.
Kinda like buying carbon offsets or credits, or something like that….
I want to borrow some time too, please.
Now I’m off to protest a petting zoo and throw paint on some women in long coats with fur collars downtown.
This is their argument, right?
from the carbon footprint site:
so I pay 13.60 pounds so a guy in Kenya can plant a tree or two to make up for my flight.
I’ll do it for half price and plant trees in America, Colorado to be exact. Just send your dollars to me, especially you frequent flyers.
shooter on February 20, 2007 at 11:09 PM
I’m officially speechless.
This “carbon offsetting” thing is literally the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard of.
Ever.
Liberals are all kinds of stupid crazy, ain’t they?
Professor Blather on February 20, 2007 at 11:15 PM
If I start telecommunting, will someone buy my carbon?
brtex on February 20, 2007 at 11:19 PM
CO2 is a naturally occurring and necessary component of the atmosphere. No CO2, no life on earth. Lots of CO2 and plants grow better because that’s what they breath. And of course people and animals exhale CO2, so to become truly carbon neutral, we would all have to stop breathing. I’ll think about doing that…. if Al Gore goes first.
The globalist want to tax the very air we breath, and the Global Warming hoax is the means by which they plan to implement that tax.
Maxx on February 20, 2007 at 11:24 PM
I dislike Al Gore, alot, but this seems to be a bit of a red herring. The defeat of the global warming lobby needs a better spokesman than Sean Hannity.
Al Gore has very little science to back up his claims. I hope he does get an Oscar it will make it all the harder to dodge the Richard Lindzen’s of the world. You know real scientists.
Theworldisnotenough on February 20, 2007 at 11:32 PM
We should be so lucky.
Coyote D. on February 20, 2007 at 11:43 PM
So do I. Strangely enough, this is the only way I have ever had to fly. I’m waiting for the day when I must resort to a private jet.
Coyote D. on February 20, 2007 at 11:45 PM
As I’ve said before, I think we can all agree most of us here have fully trashed this “global warming” crap, time and time again… additionally I always like to remind everyone that our expert couldn’t even make the hurricane spin the right way on every DVD, poster, or promotional item for his stupid movie. But yeah, trust him about the “science”.
And I always have to remind everyone about Drudge’s little exclusive just over 9 years ago:
http://www.drudgereportarchives.com/dsp/specialReports_pc_carden_detail.htm?reportID={08FAD3B1-9FAF-4037-BF26-573B2826B2C3}
Follow the link for full details, but here’s the what it boils down to:
Now, are these newshounds (and I imagine the left probably would all spit the same crap) people fricken serious? “Carbon Offsets”!!!? WTF?! I can’t even put in to words how stupid that is… Yeah guy, all that carbon disappeared when you purchased those “offsets”. So basically if we hand over our money, then we are allowed to emit carbon? Got it.
And I’m going to go on record as saying that this is complete bullsh**. If this were the case, he’d have made it clear before, because as you can see the hypocrisy has been chasing him on this for a decade… Hannity didn’t break new ground here, just mainstreamed it in the media a bit. I suspect he’s purchased these “offsets” (which again are ridiculous) perhaps a handful of times as the heat (not pun intended) has been on him about this stuff, but I am willing to be anything that he has not been doing it all along.
Now again, as I said, these “offsets” are bullsh**. The carbon is still there. Now don’t get me wrong, I’m not bitching about the carbon because I don’t buy in to global warming, but before I make my next point, we have to be on the same page about how many hundreds of thousands and millions of pounds of carbon turds his birds are dropping.
Why could our savior not appear via satellite at conferences? The news channels do it dozens of times a day from all around the world. Would that not be the greatest way to lead by example. Something like this:
“I was scheduled to fly there today, but canceled after caculating that I’d be adding XXXX pounds of carbon to the atmosphere. Now I’m making use of a technology that can literally prevent billions of pounds of carbon from being released per year, if we’d all just use it instead of flying all over the country and world to conferences and meetings. We could even cut out driving to work, and attend meeting from our homes”
Need more? How about when he was promoting his ridiculous movie? Remember he made (and still makes) the talk show circuit? The morning shows, the late night shows on both coasts, etc. etc. What if he’d appeared via online video conference? He’d be hip and leading by example. He would be making a huge publicity stunt by being interviewed by Leno and Letterman and Mrs. Lauer as a computer monitor sitting in an interview chair, with Al’s head in it:
“You see, with high speed internet technology, we can virtually travel to places we need to be. Instead of burning all the fuel and emiting all that carbon to come to your studio, I am showing the world how we can make a real difference.”
I hope people don’t just look at this as more run of the mill idiotic liberal policies… They’ve got the world in on this one, and opinion polls show the American people too. You need to be more concerned about the real agenda here. Global tax. Global law…. I’ll let your imagination do the walking, but it’s quite clear what this is all about.
RightWinged on February 20, 2007 at 11:47 PM
Y’know the funny part about carbon offsets?
The really, really FUNNY part?
The Carbon Offset credit system was developed by Ken Lay.
That’s right.
Enron.
Skywise on February 20, 2007 at 11:48 PM
“Silent, but deadly”……… “he who smelt it, dealt it”……
BTW…… is AlGore morphing into a “Johnny Cash/Save the Wrold Guru”?…… just wait, the beard will return and we will see the bearth of a new religion…..
PinkyBigglesworth on February 20, 2007 at 11:49 PM
I believe the brave eco-warrior is also holding his excrement. So THAT”S why he is so full of…….himself.
hillbillyjim on February 20, 2007 at 11:49 PM
Yes! Streisand, Clooney and Brangelina have all been posting want ads for carbon offsets on the street mags in the ghettos, figuring that poor people who take buses and never fly won’t be using their allotments.
Babs and Georgie are notoriously cheap and will screw you blind if you don’t know the game, but Brangelina pays top dollar, and they never fly commercial…
Jaibones on February 20, 2007 at 11:52 PM
What about all those cows?
Just google
He blinded me with science.
Sorry, just farting around here :)
Kini on February 21, 2007 at 12:25 AM
On my side of the Atlantic we’re undergoing one of the most visciously cold winters in living memory. Even my dad (age 65) thinks it’s one of the coldest he’s expericened in his lifetime. Keep in mind this is Dublin where the wind chill has consistently produced tempuratures lower than Moscow winters. If the world is getting warmer I’m not benefiting from it. Oh wait, I forgot, climate change. Meanwhile, back in reality I’m trying to shield myself from frostbite.
aengus on February 21, 2007 at 12:26 AM
By the way, if you’re wondering why I’m talking about winter now its ’cause over here autumn, winter, spring count as winter. Summer is sometimes sunny but on a bad year we have 12 months of winter.
aengus on February 21, 2007 at 12:30 AM
Oh, I forgot to mention earlier… I don’t have any “offsets” to sell you, but I can share some of my global warming with everyone. Today was the first day in 31 DAYS that we got above freezing (33F). It’s mostly been in single digits and teens with a lot of below freezing windchills.
Here’s how we do it in the VT
http://hazecam.net/burlington/widelarge.html
Click
Below either picture to see the full size and experience the global warming first hand.
RightWinged on February 21, 2007 at 12:36 AM
OK, so If Streisand et al are buying them:
A: What, exactly, IS the individual allotment for each person? What august body decided what the individual allotment is?
B: There are about 100 trees on my lot that range 50 – 250 feet tall. If I DON’T clear cut the lot, do I get to fly my private jet (yeah, right) without guilt, more often?
C: Precisely who certifies ‘certified offsets’, and how do they go about it? Sounds like a pretty good scam to get into, and as long as you really plant some trees, there would be no worries about getting arrested for fraud.
LegendHasIt on February 21, 2007 at 12:39 AM
This whole carbon offset absurdity has to be a parody, no?
I’ve never seen people go so far out of their way to make themselves feel good.
What’s next?
human offsets to assuage guilt over abortion?
reaganaut on February 21, 2007 at 12:41 AM
So where does one go to purchase “carbon offsets” anyway?
Does Wal-Mart sell them in the lawn and garden center?
georgej on February 21, 2007 at 12:49 AM
I can’t find any link, but I do remember reading about how you average lawn stacks up against trees, when it comes to consuming CO2 and such. Grass is pretty effective, and it make sense, considering the dense coverage of grass over a wide area, I just can’t remember the numbers (1 acre of grass = X number of trees).
This summer, I shall cut my lawn less often and 1/8 of an inch higher. I’ll be ankle-deep in offset. Well, I would be, but I’m knee-deep in manure….
reaganaut on February 21, 2007 at 12:51 AM
Really, I need know.
We had Mexican for dinner tonight and I need to compensate for my uh, er, umm, emissions. Yeah, that’s it, I need to compensate for my carbon emissions tonight.
ppfflllllaaaaatttttt!
Oops….my bad.
georgej on February 21, 2007 at 12:54 AM
You’re in luck! This website has a handy calculator! (sorry, it’s in British pounds) I need to pay $81.00 for driving my car for a year.
climatecare.org
They even have ‘gift’ offsets – and don’t think I won’t be buying some of these as gag gifts…
Oh, the absurdity.
reaganaut on February 21, 2007 at 12:55 AM
On a side note – which state imposes the first carbon tax on it’s citizens and will it be payroll deduction, added to property tax, or added to your vehicle excise tax?
I’ll go with my home state, the great Commonwealth of Taxachusetts. Actually, it’s really between Mass. or California.
reaganaut on February 21, 2007 at 1:00 AM
News Hounds has also pioneered the usage of humor offsets.
Jim Treacher on February 21, 2007 at 1:02 AM
A. We’re experiencing unusually high call volume at this time. Your New World Or…. er…. United Nations representative will be with you shortly.
B. Yes.
C. See response to answer A. And if you still aren’t clear when you get done with that call, it will all be explained on orientation, and written in the Constitution of Earth, to be written in the next decade or two.
Zing.
RightWinged on February 21, 2007 at 1:21 AM
Sorry if someone asked this before, but. Please set me straight on this offset thing: It’s OK to pollute if you recycle? It’s OK to pollute if you make others not do it? How long is it before it’s OK to murder, if you create another life? This offset is absurd, just like algore.
R D on February 21, 2007 at 1:33 AM
Carbon offsets are all a fantasy. Forestation (or REforestation, whatever that is) does not absorb much CO2 from the atmosphere, even if the trees were actually planted and left alone for decades. Most of the carbon that trees fix during photosynthesis ends up being broken back down to CO2 by soil bacteria. Plus trees kick off lots of methane and organic volatiles, which are MUCH stronger greenhouse molecules than CO2.
If your goal is to sequester carbon destined for the atmosphere, you’d be better off redirecting the recycling truck to dump a bunch of paper in a landfill.
Clark1 on February 21, 2007 at 1:50 AM
ManBearPig-nuff said
Catie96706 on February 21, 2007 at 2:06 AM
What the hell am I doing trying to start an online store??? I’ll just sell CARBON OFFSETS! Step riiiiiight up ladies and gentlemen. Get your carbon offsets right here.
I wonder if the domain name carbonoffsets is already taken?
I’m gonna get soooo rich! If a guy as smart as Al Gore will buy them, and he’s like, what, the smartest guy totally on the whole planet; just think of all the stupid people who’ll fall for this. Woo hoo!
Mojave Mark on February 21, 2007 at 2:15 AM
Mojave, after all, he did invent the internet. And he and Tipper were the inspiration for The Love Story. How much BS can we take from this guy?
R D on February 21, 2007 at 2:31 AM
So now, as a common man I’ll just buy some carbon offsets before I light my fireplace … Wait a minute, how much is a carbon offset for my fireplace … Well If algore can afford it, I’m sure he would never force something on the working class that they could never afford. This in no way would be a way for the privileged classes to pull one over on us everyday people would it… lets put it this way, I want to drive my car to work but that would surpass my carbon usage for the year… algore can buy all the offsets he need and others like him (you know the ones who don’t want the wind farms to block their views) the rest of us will have to get smaller cars or ride the bus or if we work hours that the busses don’t run we’ll have to ride our bikes.
Gwillie on February 21, 2007 at 2:48 AM
Maybe one of the best threads ever………. laughing my as@ bbbbrrrttttythyhtyt….
…… oh my, excuse me……!
PinkyBigglesworth on February 21, 2007 at 2:48 AM
“Carbon offsets” = Hypocrite Insurance.
What a load of Algore.
ReubenJCogburn on February 21, 2007 at 3:46 AM
I always miss out on the new money making schemes…. I’ve got a lazer jet printer, I can sell people Hypocrite Insurance…..
liquidflorian on February 21, 2007 at 3:49 AM
Remember the Presidential debates?
Remember the campaign ads?
They used to call Algore “wooden”. Interesting that he is so ‘warm’ on reforestation. Maybe because his kinfolks are telephone poles and pencils?? (Toilet paper, perhaps?)
Actually, Algore is one of the most prolific liars in modern political history. To me he is a toxic emission from the Eco-Lib Democratic Cesspool of Pseudo-Scientific Social Policy.
There’s not enough rain forests on ‘Mother Earth’ to offset that stench.
hillbillyjim on February 21, 2007 at 4:08 AM
What’s ridiculous is that nobody says the obvious high-tech fix, if he were really about reducing his carbon footprint (as opposed to merely offsetting it): teleconferencing and/or podcasting.
I mean, why does Gore need to physically be every place he gives a presentation? Why not just phone it in? As someone above stated, if Gore’s message were so important, why not have a streaming video site pumping his movie around the clock? Why not have a podcast with Gore’s carbon-footprint-reducing tip of the day?
For someone who seems to want to look cutting edge, he sure does go about his business in an old-fashioned way.
meep on February 21, 2007 at 5:45 AM
Carbon offsets… well, I think I’ll fire up the charcoal grill tomorrow evening and make some lamb on the rod (shish kabob, today is Ash Weds, no meat today).
Environmentalism is hoax, bad science from the get go.
Zorro on February 21, 2007 at 6:36 AM
If there’s a market for B.O. offsets, I’m a seller.
Bugler on February 21, 2007 at 8:29 AM
And just why is it I can’t offset my carbon dioxide into diamonds, buck-balls, super conductor, more rare hardwoods and oxygen directly thereby reaping the benefits of my own credits without having to go through the HollyWierd Hierarchy?
Oh, yeah. That would take education, technology and industry. Hmmm, now where would I find that in HollyWierd?
Guess I could find it there if a global climate change were to occur…….
fng on February 21, 2007 at 8:41 AM
RD, your questions are hysterical. Let me answer in black and white. It’s ok to pollute as long as you pay to do it. It’s that simple.
rayvet on February 21, 2007 at 8:46 AM
FINALLY>>>>> A bigger voice than ours screams what we have all been mumbling in the blogosphere>>>>
THANKS SEAN!!!
seejanemom on February 21, 2007 at 8:57 AM
Algore === Intelligence Neutral
Ass.
I LOVE THAT SEAN DID THIS>>>>> CAN I GET AN AMEN!!!!!!!!
seejanemom on February 21, 2007 at 9:00 AM
Where is Jaherer22 when you need her…..??????
HAaaaaaalloooooo….anybody want to refute this one????
Moooooonbats, come out come out wherever you are!!!!!!!!!
seejanemom on February 21, 2007 at 9:02 AM
Don’t give ‘em any ideas.
When I see all of this material about “carbon offsets” why does “Ponsy Scheme” come to mind?
I’m going to Italy in the fall and I don’t need no stinking offsets!
TwinkietheKid on February 21, 2007 at 9:08 AM
The problem with this video is that it actually helps Al Gore sell the idea that Global Warming is real, no where was the silliness of Global Warming itself ever challenged. Al Gore doesn’t care if you call him a hypocrite, he just laughs at that. Hannity is wasting his time by picking this leaf off the tree, he needs to get to the root and attack the nonsense of Global Warming itself. After all the theory of Global warming has more holes in it than a moon sized block of Swiss cheese.
Maxx on February 21, 2007 at 9:22 AM
How in the hell do you buy a carbon offset???????
pullingmyhairout on February 21, 2007 at 9:28 AM
“Buying carbon offsets, etc” In plain english this means that because he’s rich he’s allowed to pollute, am I right?
Aylios on February 21, 2007 at 9:36 AM
No red herring, if you preach something you better live up to it. How many polar bears has Al Gore killed running around the world touting global warming? How many glaciers has he melted? Personally I want to see proof he bought “carbon offsets” too. I’d guess you get a bill of sale when you buy one.
Buzzy on February 21, 2007 at 9:51 AM
I’d like a source for this one. I can’t find one.
That is too good not to use in the future; if it is true.
DWB on February 21, 2007 at 9:56 AM
Gore exhales CO2. Just saying…
Wade on February 21, 2007 at 10:03 AM
I have question: Did Algore invent the ozone layer BEFORE or AFTER he invented the internet? It’s “BEFORE”, right?
If he’s concerned about the production of CO2, why doesn’t he stop breathing?
Lone Star on February 21, 2007 at 10:05 AM
Basically buying carbon offsets is like buying a drink, drinking it, then buying one for the bar. Do that a dozen times and explain to the officer that you aren’t drunk, you have just bought alcohol offsets.
Hey, I just explained Ted Kennedy. He is an environmentalist.
right2bright on February 21, 2007 at 10:09 AM
Sorry Jane, I can’t touch a thread like this. I am just overwhelmed by the
facts and sciencefart jokes and petty insults being presented to refute the “climate change myth.”And besides, it’s a win-win situation for me: if it turns out I’m right and we are destroying the planet then I can laugh and mock your right-wing stupidty and ignorance all the way to my grave; if I’m wrong and it’s all just a myth, well then I will have a happy, healthy planet to frolic about on, burning fossil fuels to my heart’s content.
JaHerer22 on February 21, 2007 at 10:13 AM
How can you be happy knowing you were played a fool? You can be happy about the planet, but are you happy about being used because you are so easily manipulated? What does that day about you and your party? And you would continue supporting a party that lies to get votes, and you say “that’s okay, it was for a good cause”. I can see where YOU would be happy.
right2bright on February 21, 2007 at 10:17 AM
Way to go Hannity !!!!
oldelpasoan on February 21, 2007 at 10:26 AM
In college economics, they pointed out that the price of an item reflects 1) availability 2) amount of inputs that went into producing it and positioning it in the right place to be sold. There is a third factor: snob appeal, but let’s leave that out to keep this simple.
Question: why are the hybrids so costly? Leaving out the snobby mark-up, aren’t they more money to produce, which thus means they use up more resources to be manufactured? Second problem: disposal. Hybrids take up more resources to dispose of them. Toxic batteries anyone? Also, batteries have a short life span – they have to be replaced – more money, more resources and more toxic trash, which means even more money spent just throwing them away.
Meanwhile, firefighters and rescue people are tiptoeing around hybrids – explosive airbags, and hazardous fumes from burning plastics and batteries. Along with fire/rescue, mechanics have to be careful they don’t get shocked from a battery-loaded vehicle.
Wonder why all these la-de-dah celebrities abruptly trade their little beauties in after three years (replacement battery time and too much hassle?)
Oil is biodegradable. The more steel in a vehicle, the more efficient it is to recycle the thing.
naliaka on February 21, 2007 at 10:42 AM
I’m not being played or manipulated by anybody. I took earth science classes in college, I’ve read books and journal articles on both sides of the debate (though it’s hard to find too many that support your side, try a scholarly journal search for yourself sometime), and I’ve come to my own conclusions. Al Gore, the Democratic Party, and Hollywood celebreties have had nothing to do with with those conclusions. So if I’m wrong, I’m wrong, it won’t be the first time and it won’t be the last. I studied the issue to the best of my ability, read the most respected experts, and reached my conclusions. I have no regrets right or wrong.
JaHerer22 on February 21, 2007 at 10:46 AM
I think when someone really digs, it’s going to end up that for every half-million pounds of jet fuel he burns, Gore ponies up 20 bucks to the Arbor Day Foundation.
eeyore on February 21, 2007 at 10:47 AM
I’m an environmentalist because I like the outdoors, not because Al Gore told me to be.
Yes, it’s silly to tell people we are in “dire peril” from our “carbon footprints”. Hell, overfishing is a bigger problem in my opinion.
And it’s silly to attack policy on a personal basis (I haven’t even seen Inconvenient Truth and I could care less if he, as Vice President and Presidential candidate, took a private jet. Do you expect him to fly commercial?) instead of a scientific one. Attack the science, Hannity, and you’ll have a better time convincing me.
SouthernDem on February 21, 2007 at 10:56 AM
Hannity continues to annoy. We don’t attention-grabbers like Hannity pointing people away from the real salient points we should be focusing on.
RW Wacko on February 21, 2007 at 11:21 AM
Where do I buy a “carbon offset”? Do they sell them at Wal-Mart?
Blaise on February 21, 2007 at 11:30 AM
It’s painful that so many people continue to buy into one eco-disaster prediction after another. Why do so many people think that humans hurt the Earth?
What ever happened to the impending doom from chopping down the rainforests? Hasn’t nuclear energy destroyed the world’s ecology yet?
Kevin M on February 21, 2007 at 12:08 PM
Jahere said:
No you won’t. You’ll come up with some new example of how mankind is destroying the world, and predict more doom and gloom, disregarding how wrong you were on global warming. It’s in the environmentalist’s blood. Humans are evil, and the Earth hates us. I doubt you can fight that belief even if you try.
Kevin M on February 21, 2007 at 12:12 PM
So Al and Tipper have four children, right?
If I have no children to make up for the environmental damage Al’s spawn will certainly do to the planet, doesn’t Al owe me a couple of “child offset” credits?
saint kansas on February 21, 2007 at 12:20 PM
Al Gore is the Pope of the new world Global Warming Religion, and he is loving the spotlight. The new Global Advocate rock star, a legend in his own mind.
infidel4life on February 21, 2007 at 12:24 PM
JaHerer22:
Ifyour wrong then you’ve spent maga money, lost your job, and live in a tent because you and you’re employer have given everything to buy needless carbon offset.Gwillie on February 21, 2007 at 1:03 PM
Well, JaHerer might not personally do that, but it’s well established that the media will. They’ve been doing it since 1895 – more than a century of climate change scaremongering. When will people catch on?
Laura on February 21, 2007 at 1:05 PM
Jaherer22——-This thread is NOT about the farce of “climate change”, it is about your patron Saint being a HYPOCRITE. SImple. Can you manage THAT?
But may I compliment you on your MASTERY of the tired and lame LIBERAL “DEBATE” STYLE:
DENY, DEFLECT, ACUSE, ATTACK.
Brilliantly executed…..a 10!!!
But YOU STILL HAVE NOT ANSWERED THIS CHARGE, lady—-
That Algore is a hypocritical PUSBAG who could DRIVE TO THE MOON you all live on in a CAR FUELED BY HIS OWN FABULOUSLY PLENTIFUL BULLSH*T, if somebody would just pleeeeze invent one.
seejanemom on February 21, 2007 at 1:06 PM
The number of engineers that Boeing Commercial Airplanes has working on engine/fuel emissions can be counted on the fingers of one hand. Boeing literally has ten (count’em 10) times that many engineers working to control and reduce the noise around airports. Airlines and/or airports are FAR MORE likely to experience litigation due to the noise that the airplanes produce. That should tell you something. If nothing else, it says that it is the threat of legal action that produces the incentive for the aircraft companies and their engineers to fix or work-on something. I am not saying that this is way that things SHOULD be, just that this is the way that it IS. Unfortunately, lawyers seem to be in control of everything.
As for the global warming issue, I don’t have enough expertise to espouse an opinion on the matter. (Sorry.) But as long as Al Gore is buying carbon offsets, he should be aware that I am willing to sell him an indulgence for his sins against God. I’m pretty sure that the indulgences that I sell him will be every bit as effective and helpful, and authentic and genuine as those carbon offsets that he is buying. (Forgive me if I try to make a buck off of an incredibly ethically challenged and naive individual.)
CyberCipher on February 21, 2007 at 1:26 PM
I wish Fat Albert would run for president in ’08.
Imagine the funny things he would say.
JackM on February 21, 2007 at 1:37 PM
The bastards now disregard how they were wrong about the global cooling scare of the 1970′s.
JackM on February 21, 2007 at 1:42 PM
I’m not defending Gore’s movie but Hannity once again has proven himself a twit. If someone if running for the highest office in the land the last thing I want to see is the candidate flying on public commercial airplanes. Sean can you say, “security”? This reminds me of liberals blaming Bushie for using Air Force One instead of a train. They are both non-issues.
Hannity could have spent more time azz washing the Hollyweirdos and their consumption.
Parting thought. If Gore and the Hate America First crowd was really wanting to reduce the carbon they’d be screaming at the second and third world nations that are burning down all the forest and breeding like rabbits next to an alfalfa field.
Timber Wolf on February 21, 2007 at 1:47 PM
Yes, there are few dollars out there for those who are not part of the environmental agenda.
As Algore says in his acceptance speech (draft):
You should have taken an Environmental Ethics course, in which you would have read “The Skeptical Environmentalist,” “Cadillac Desert,” “Environmental Ethics,” and learned about Dixie Lee Ray and how for each environmental “do-gooder-action” there is an equal, and often more insidious negative reaction. Then a course in critical thinking, logic, biology, chemistry, especially organic chem., and physics. Earth Science courses are mainly an overall look at the earth and the systems within- not a nitty-gritty look at the claims being made by such lofty scientific minds as Algore.
But, just to make you happy, here’s a picture of our bleak future.
NTWR on February 21, 2007 at 2:14 PM
How can you believe a bunch of dopes who can’t tell you the weather for tomorrow, when they scream and cry about what’s going to happen 50 years from now?
JackM on February 21, 2007 at 2:26 PM
Here’s a few… like 17,000!
How about the original global cooling scare? The New York Times, on Feb. 24, 1895: “Geologists Think the World May Be Frozen Up Again.”
Slightly off topic, but I hope someone can explain this . Rush and many conservatives have run Al Gore’s name together for years: “algore”
What’s the joke or the point of that?
Laura on February 21, 2007 at 2:36 PM
I’m sorry, but “purchasing carbon offsets” is a whole hell of a lot of hooey. That’s like saying, I can shoot someone and pay off the cops to get away with murder.
If you are trying to be “carbon neutral” then you shouldn’t be producing carbon dioxide… and in Gore’s case if he’s stop talking about global warming, he’d probably go a very long way to stopping. But, this idea that just because you fly in a plane (or use an SUV or whatever) and then you reimburse someone with money is ignorant of the fact that it doesn’t make the extra CO2 emissions go away!
Rick Donaldson on February 21, 2007 at 2:42 PM
Is that a typo on the date? 1985? Or 1895? or was it 1975?
Rick Donaldson on February 21, 2007 at 2:43 PM
Never mind. lol. These idiots have been around for over 100 Years? I find that incomprehensible!
Rick Donaldson on February 21, 2007 at 2:44 PM
Can say for certain, but Al Gore claims that he invented the internet. After all, where do ya’ think that computer ALGORithms come from (don’t ya’ know)?
/sarcasm off
CyberCipher on February 21, 2007 at 2:57 PM
I believe it was a Rush joke were Al Gore, being the VP to Clinton at the time, was being compared to Dr. Frankenstein’s assistant, Igor.
JackM on February 21, 2007 at 3:03 PM
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