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Murtha “running the show”

posted at 10:02 am on February 20, 2007 by Bryan
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Time to take our medicine, kids.

It’s fun to make fun of the clownish, obviously foolish Jack Murtha, who among other things thinks it’s possible to fight a war in Iraq from Okinawa. But we’re all jabbing him from far outside his power base. Robert Novak explains what’s going on inside Murtha’s anti-war command post:

After 16 undistinguished terms in Congress, Rep. John P. Murtha at long last felt his moment had arrived. He could not keep quiet the secret Democratic strategy that he had forged for the promised “second step” against President Bush’s Iraq policy (after the “first step” non-binding resolution of disapproval). In an interview last Thursday with the anti-war website MoveCongress.org, he revealed plans to put conditions on funding of U.S. troops. His message: I am running this show.

Indeed, he is. Murtha and his ally, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, were humiliated last Nov. 16 when the Democratic Caucus overwhelmingly voted against Murtha as majority leader. Three months later, Murtha has shaped party policy that would cripple Bush’s Iraq troop surge by placing conditions on funding. That represents the most daring congressional attempt to micromanage ongoing armed hostilities in nearly two centuries, since the Joint Committee on the Conduct of the War challenged President Abraham Lincoln.

Don’t think for a second that just because it’s Murtha’s baby, the Democrats are going to abort it. The “slow bleed” (a term I use mainly to annoy Media Matters) is alive and well. Pay close attention to what Hillary! says in her anti-war video, fisked here. Her new or old plan to end the war, depending on which sentence in her speech you choose to believe, is slow bleed with a better name. John Edwards is also running on a variation of the slow bleed. That’s two of the top three Dem presidential candidates.

Slow bleed isn’t a stupid strategy, either. It’s dangerous, and it makes our troops the victims of Democrat narcissism, but it’s not stupid. It’s very clever, as Murtha clearly understands:

Murtha, chairman of the Appropriations Subcommittee on Defense, did not hide the purpose of setting standards for training, equipping and resting troops: “They won’t have the equipment, they don’t have the training, and they won’t be able to do the work.”

Murtha’s able to wield so much power because he and Speaker Pelosi are two liberal peas in a pod. According to Novak, they have managed to sideline House majority leader Steny Hoyer and are working their strategy without him. Murtha lost that election, but has apparently won the war. And having won that war, he’s empowered to make sure we lose the one in Iraq.

Rich Lowry picks up on where Murtha’s strategy may lead, in Iraq and here at home:

The surge is the best chance of turning the war around. By hampering it, Democrats will ensure that the war continues to fail, and thus that domestic political support for it plummets to the point where Democrats feel safe in defunding it.

The subconscious logic of their position on the war has thus taken a subtle turn. It used to be that the war had to end because it was a failure; now it must fail so that it can end.

President Bush will have no choice but to reject the Murtha restrictions should they reach his desk. But a veto is problematic. As Murtha points out, a veto means that Bush doesn’t get the continued funding for the war. He might have to sign the bill, take the funding and ignore the restrictions as an unconstitutional trespass on his powers. In that event, a cry to impeach him will go up from the increasingly powerful antiwar Left.

It’s not unthinkable that President Bush might face serious and sustained calls for impeachment for the crime of carrying out the responsibilities of his office, fending off what amounts to a seizure of his power by the Democrats in the House, Senate and on the campaign trail–none of whom have been elected to replace him. It’s also not unthinkable that this will have serious consequences on the progress of the surge in Iraq. And it’s far from unthinkable that those battlefield consequences are part of the plan that Murtha, Pelosi, Clinton, Edwards and perhaps a majority of the Democrats are banking on to bring them the White House in 2008.

They know that they can’t defund the war outright, yet. But by hamstringing the president’s options, they can make victory impossible. Having then forced on defeat, they can claim victory over Bush and defeat in Iraq, and then they can defund the war. That’s where we’re headed, under shadow Commander in Chief Jack Murtha.

How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a political party’s cynicism, cowardice, irresponsibility and narcissism? Ask Jack Murtha, because that’s exactly what he’s asking of our troops fighting in Iraq.


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Best Post and Best Thread EVER. Hot Air webmaster, please design an all time best menu for the site so we can see this one for all time, and all new commenters in the future can use it as a nice orientation to get to know what Hot Air is all about.

RushBaby on February 20, 2007 at 7:50 PM

I for one supported, and will always support, this war, and had it right, for the right reasons. I will never change my mind because there is a difference between doing the right or wrong thing and because I believe in freedom for all people, not just for myself.

The lack of conviction and display of hypocrisy (me, me but not thee) are two traits I despise the most in so-called ‘progressives’.

P.S. I read every single line in this thread and it is incredible. Wow, just wow. Both, on what you all wrote, and on what transpired. Very telling and differentiating for those with eyes and brains to see/discern.

P.P.S. – Maxx is 100% correct…saying goes…fire, out of the kitchen…Without having checked the history, I recall that honora’s first husband was in the services…vague recolletion…

Entelechy on February 20, 2007 at 8:15 PM

Due to my work as a teacher and having this site blocked at my high school, I can’t read these blogs until late in the afternoon/evening. I just want to thank people like Prof. Blather, Spurius Ligustinus, Lonevoice, Anton, Catie 96706, and everyone else for their insightful comments on this topic. All of you have said everything that I would liked to have said. Kudos to everyone (except for the left wing defeatist)for your insightful comments!

dawgyear on February 20, 2007 at 8:18 PM

Here’s a brain teaser for you: come up with the rationale for the mess at Walter Reed outpatient facility and other shockingly poor treatment of returning injured troops (WaPo story) being Murtha’s fault. Extra credit for anything that ties this to Clinton.
honora on February 20, 2007 at 11:14 AM

Extra credit for linking this to CLinton.
2 shy of a decade in power, raised taxes on the grounds to provide better government services to more people. So, the self-proclaimed more caring and noble Democrats under Clinton, were in power, and neither Bill CLinton or Hillary did a thing to improve the tax-payer funded facilties for our vets. Decaying facilities were handed over to Bush. If Clinton had done his job, nice new, well-keep and efficient services would be the order of the day, right now, wouldn’t they be? Lord knows, the Clintons had the money in the federal budget, and don’t forget: no war to fund either – they were rolling in dough and they couldn’t find even a teensy weensty bit to renovate facilities. The WaPo didn’t seem to find it interesting that facilities were cruddy – a long-term problem, but never demanded Clinton do anything about the situation? Yep, Clinton let the VA continue to wither under him for eight more years. If it was Bush’s fault, new facilities would be going downhill, but the truth is he inherited old, run-down facilities.

naliaka on February 20, 2007 at 8:39 PM

Hume ’smacked’ Murtha again this evening on “Special Report”. Maybe not as hard as yesterday, but this time he even had the Lib lady (Mara?) agreeing that Murtha was NOT good for the Democrats.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD79YUdreQg

LegendHasIt on February 20, 2007 at 8:54 PM

I CHALLENGE ALL WHO READ HERE TO TAKE PART IN THE PRO-WAR RALLY ON MARCH 17, IN DC AT THE VIETNAM VETERANS MEMORIAL WALL! THE SQUEAKY WHEEL GETS THE OIL!

sonnyspats1 on February 20, 2007 at 9:09 PM

Let’s have Murtha and Pelosi stand trial for treason. That should put the brakes on their little masquerade.

fogw on February 20, 2007 at 10:10 AM

Oh, for a GOP member of the House to grow a pair and go full frontal assault.

Jaibones on February 20, 2007 at 9:10 PM

Our actions in Iraq were right, have been right, and are right, notwithstanding bad behavior on the part of a tiny handful of servicefolk, and some strategically poor choices out of Washington.

The fact that Murtha feels comfortable uncovering his tactics on this treason of his is that he is confident that “none dare call it treason”. The last time the right side of the House won any sort of victory was when Kerry was threatening to call for a vote on immediate withdrawal, and the republicans called his bluff. Remember the vote on that? It’s time to renew that tactic. Bring Murtha’s surrender plan to an immediate vote, force the Socialists to show their colors loud and proud.

Honora, you are usually a smarter about hiding your lib-emotion-drive behind a clever facade of faux logic. This time you just plain blew it. If you dare me I’ll provide half a dozen links to organizations which are continuously fundraising to provide extra medical attention for wounded troops. But in the meantime, Murtha has had a significant hand in Base Realignment And Closure (BRAC) decisions, so there’s your connection to poor availability of service facilities.

Not that that matters on this thread, which is about how he wants to force servicemen to die so he can force the President to cave in. You should be ashamed for trying to misdirect away from such a heinous act with ANY sort of strawman, even one which, on its own, has merit.

Murtha is a traitor. Anyone standing with him on THIS ISSUE is a traitor, and I more than question their patriotism.

Freelancer on February 20, 2007 at 9:39 PM

Here’s a brain teaser for you: come up with the rationale for the mess at Walter Reed outpatient facility and other shockingly poor treatment of returning injured troops (WaPo story) being Murtha’s fault. Extra credit for anything that ties this to Clinton.
honora on February 20, 2007 at 11:14 AM

…and the lack of funding from democrats would make this better how?

As for the Clenis, he sure as hell did not do any favors to veterans. I lived through his flat-lined VA budgets, and the Seahag showing up for photo ops. The only time the two Grifters were any near a veteran was if there was something in it for them.

Neither party wants to spend any money on veterans. The democrats somehow believe the Pentagon should pay for it, and worry about the money taken from social programs. Many Republicans act as if it is just another social program being funded, or as if enough money is spent already.

91Veteran on February 20, 2007 at 9:54 PM

Sorry, youtube pulled the video I linked above.

I’ll post it on another server if anyone here wants to see it.

LegendHasIt on February 20, 2007 at 10:07 PM

I watched it, Murtha is an embarrassment, an old fool.

Probably a dry drunk. LOL

benrand on February 20, 2007 at 10:27 PM

Sorry, youtube pulled the video I linked above.
I’ll post it on another server if anyone here wants to see it.

LegendHasIt on February 20, 2007 at 10:07 PM

I would like to see it LegendHasIt, if it’s not too much trouble. There may be things more entertaining than Hume smacking down Murtha, but at the moment I can’t think of one.

Maxx on February 20, 2007 at 10:32 PM

Can you all believe Hillary had the nerve to oppose the carolina (forget which) confederate symbol on its state flag on the basis that we all should be fighting this war under a single flag?
And Murtha decides his flag is the one of Iran.
lorien1973 on February 20, 2007 at 3:02 PM

Yeah that peaked the “you gotta be $hittin me meter….particularly with how “united” her party has wanted to be with fighting terrorism.

This dizzy bimbo has a real knack for saying some rather strange things at inopportune times.

What was it she said about dealing with bad men?

91Veteran on February 20, 2007 at 10:50 PM

Weird. It seems to be back up on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD79YUdreQg
but with different stats.

But just in case they make it unavailable again I’ll leave it on my server for a couple of days

http://www.az123.com/BH_Murtha-fox2-20.wmv
The one on my server is an 8.5 MB Windows Media Video file.

If you want to spread it around, please don’t hotlink to my server… I can’t afford that much bandwidth. Download it to your own computer/server. Thanks!

LegendHasIt on February 20, 2007 at 10:58 PM

I recall that honora’s first husband was in the services…vague recolletion…
Entelechy on February 20, 2007 at 8:15 PM

First husband? Another democrat with a history of cutting and running…..

91Veteran on February 20, 2007 at 11:03 PM

Maxx and LegendHasIt – the video is working just fine for me. Thank you.

Entelechy on February 20, 2007 at 11:05 PM

Murtha is a traitor. Anyone standing with him on THIS ISSUE is a traitor, and I more than question their patriotism.
Freelancer on February 20, 2007 at 9:39 PM

Since Murtha’s original plan was to redeploy to Okinawa until the troops were needed again, I’d like to see anyone standing with him on this issue explain why he would pay for sending troops back to Iraq from Okinawa if he is now planning on the “slow bleed” of those currently in Iraq.

His latest plan on cutting funding certainly puts the lie to what he previously floated.

91Veteran on February 20, 2007 at 11:21 PM

Isn’t “honorless” due to sneak back into this thread and post one last comment, after we’ve all left? Or is it too early?

Professor Blather on February 20, 2007 at 11:31 PM

LegendHasIt, I watched the video, good stuff, thank you ! I think it was mostly Fred Barns that was eating Murtha’s lunch on that vid.

Maxx on February 20, 2007 at 11:43 PM

Every time I see Murthasshole on video, I can feel my blood pressure increase. He simply should be removed from Congress, for cause.

georgej on February 20, 2007 at 11:54 PM

Prof, it’s too early. She’ll wait about a week or so when she thinks no one will check the Vault.

Catie96706 on February 21, 2007 at 12:48 PM

honora, now there is an oxymoron for you.

Jonesy on February 21, 2007 at 1:34 PM

I for one have had it with people who have had this war wrong from the get go continuing to lecture those of us who had it right.

honora on February 20, 2007 at 11:54 AM

And I have had it with traitors.

JackM on February 21, 2007 at 2:14 PM

Jack Murtha is the Cataline of our age.

spmat on February 20, 2007 at 10:45 AM

Murtha is a Nancyboy.

JackM on February 21, 2007 at 2:18 PM

Honora may be gone. I think she has been exposed for the fraud she is. Now she has a masters degree someone pointed out. Her husband, military man, executive, lawyer, doctor take your pick. Her daughter, law student, pre-med, medical intern, goes to school and knows Miss America (the one that got in trouble). Honora has travelled the world, been a “successful executive”, writer: Everytime there is a thread, she has experience in that field.
But being caught plagarizing, and finding the website she steals her ideas from? That was priceless.

Next time she comes in, what ideas has she stolen and used as her own? No, I don’t think you will hear from her (if she is a her) for quite awhile.

A leftist exposed, she defines the movement she embraces. Pity.

right2bright on February 21, 2007 at 2:30 PM

So Pelosi has given up her rein? A man pushed her out so soon?

right2bright on February 21, 2007 at 2:32 PM

honora, now there is an oxymoron for you.

Jonesy on February 21, 2007 at 1:34 PM

Huh? Er, ya’ mean it’s NOT “Ho Nora”? Guess I had it wrong all this time.

(Okay, so that was a cheap shot. Aren’t handles fun?)

CyberCipher on February 21, 2007 at 5:53 PM

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