Jamal Miftah: a moderate Muslim’s plight

posted at 8:54 am on February 16, 2007 by Bryan

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“If it can happen in Tulsa, it can happen anywhere…” So true. Yet, so many WILL NOT understand. Who said, “There are none so blind as those who will not see.”

BNCurtis on February 16, 2007 at 9:12 AM

Until the leaders of Islam condemn violence they condone it. If you are Muslim and criticize the death and violence caused by Jihad or Fatwas, you are an apostate. The radicals are running the religion and the “moderates” are infidels.

infidel on February 16, 2007 at 9:55 AM

When will we wake up here in the US ?? This is going on and has ben going on long before 9-11. This guy has his right to speak out but look what happened to him. More and more the extremeists want to silence anyone who speaks out against thier tactic’s and most of the lib’s thinks it isn’t happening. What a crock. More moderates better speak and fast before all hell breaks loose here in our country.

bones47 on February 16, 2007 at 10:20 AM

MODERN AMERICANS ARE SHEEP on so many, many issues.

If we all don’t wake up to our everyday environments, take personal responsibility and practice DAILY Situational Awareness (SA), when will we know when life is no longer a “drill”?

Wake up. And DO IT NOW.

seejanemom on February 16, 2007 at 10:23 AM

I so love Hotair. Way to stay ahead of the news cycle. And thank you for not covering Anna Nicole Smith 24/7. This type of op/ed report has been badly needed. I’m sure Glenn Beck has touched on it but I do not watch his show, so for me this is new and refreshing.

Hotair TV! Hotair TV! Hotair TV!

Theworldisnotenough on February 16, 2007 at 10:36 AM

Nice vent today.

If/When there is another terrorist attack in the U.S., I would not be surprised, nor upset if Muslims in the United States are rounded up and sent to detention camps. For a mosque in Tulsa to do that, it seems that the vast majority of Muslims in America want to see us destroyed.

asc85 on February 16, 2007 at 10:47 AM

OK, instead of complaining this time, I am going to suggest that the non-muslim people of Tulsa have a rally protesting this guys treatment at the hands of his fellow Muslims. He doesn’t need our lip service, he needs real support. It’d be nice if Bill O (or someone with some clout) would call for some support from the local community for this guy.

csdeven on February 16, 2007 at 11:48 AM

Holy CRAP! That’s an incredible exposé piece. And the quality is TV WORTHY! Hey, FOX News, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN… okay, someone with brains in the MSM, PUT THIS PIECE ON TV NOW! People NEED to see and hear this. This is news worthy of people’s time. My god, the production value alone has me impressed as a techie geek. (Sorry, I can’t hide what I am) Thank you for this important report, and I hope that by exposing this double standard, we can shed the light on what’s really going on in our own backyards.

DakRoland on February 16, 2007 at 12:05 PM

Amen!

Drtuddle on February 16, 2007 at 12:15 PM

So why the hell belong to such a death cult?

Until the leaders of Islam condemn violence they condone it. If you are Muslim and criticize the death and violence caused by Jihad or Fatwas, you are an apostate.

No crap but it isn’t going to happen, welcome to Muhammad’s teachings. The so called moderates are actually liberals following Muhammad few “peaceful” teachings that were done while he was is a minority, out numbered in Mecca and then Medina. When he gained strength in numbers the animal went totally violent.

There is no excuse for Islam nor anyone who follows its path of blood. Not one other major religion out there that practices the conversion or death theme. Calling a spade a spade.

Timber Wolf on February 16, 2007 at 12:39 PM

So why belong to such a death cult? Honestly who in their right mind wouldn’t leave Islam?

Until the leaders of Islam condemn violence they condone it. If you are Muslim and criticize the death and violence caused by Jihad or Fatwas, you are an apostate.

Right, well that isn’t going to happen. These so called moderates are actually liberal Muslims who follow a short period of Muhammad’s teaching when he was in the minority in Mecca and then Medina. When this animal gained strength in numbers he went violent and hence the metamorphism of actual Islam. It isn’t peaceful in any sense of the word.

Islam was never a religion, it was and is a cult of personality built around a terrorist-common thief. No other major religion practices the death or conversion theme. Not one.

Timber Wolf on February 16, 2007 at 12:44 PM

80% of the Mosques are Saudi funded and Bush wants to bring, what is it, 10,000 Saudis over as part of an exchange program?!!

Timber Wolf on February 16, 2007 at 12:50 PM

Thanks HotAir for bringing this to light. The MSN would never show such a thing, as it doesn’t make America look bad. We Americans do need to wake up, and soon. The Muslim community in this country needs to be scrutinized and all radicals thrown OUT. Political Correctness is going to be our downfall. We are doomed unless some drastic changes are made.

pwhited on February 16, 2007 at 1:08 PM

More proof that most Muslims are not “moderate” by our standards, and those that oppose violent jihad are oppressed in the same way the the Gestapo maintained political consensus.

I believe that almost all Muslims are not “moderate” by our standards. They either condone the actions of the violet jihad by passive support or remain silent. If they reject oppression and conquest of the “infidel” they are apostates and no longer Muslims.

The Islamofacist uses the same techniques as the Gestapo to harm and intimidate those that oppose them. Today’s vent is consistent with those conclusions.

When, when, when will the United States recognize Islam for what it really is? When, when, when will the majority of the population recognize the Muslim as a threat to our freedoms, safety, and way of life?

The Answer: only after major disasters, I believe at least 2. The influence of the politically correct Left that support Multiculturalism at the expense of national unity and nationalism will not be diminshed until we experience great disaster. Unfortunate, but there does not seem to be any way out of it.

The real problem is the influence of the Left that restricts rational and aggressive action to counter clearly defined threats, such as the one identified in this vent.

omegaram on February 16, 2007 at 2:41 PM

Outstanding work on this peice, and very, very illuminating. It certainly gives one reason to believe that the majority of Muslims do support violent jihad and terrorism against non-muslims if they are so willing to ostracize one of their own who has the courage to speak out against it.

Keep shining the light on this type of thing, HotAir TV. As Michelle has said before, sunshine is the best disinfectant.

thirteen28 on February 16, 2007 at 3:37 PM

This is one very brave man! Too bad there are so few like him. I really like Stakelback’s reporting.
Nothing like a little jihad in the Heartland *sigh*

labwrs on February 16, 2007 at 3:58 PM

“MODERATE MUSLIM”???

Is that just some kind of slang for a Muslim that doesn’t REALLY practice his relgion, or maybe it’s slang for a Muslim who doesn’t REALLY believe the Koran, or intend to follow the Koran, or what exactly?

NRA4Freedom on February 16, 2007 at 4:19 PM

The local media barely covered this story. A brief mention on the local news and that was about it. The monopoly paper, where the controversy started, completely blacked it out. I heard more about it on H&C than anywhere else.

As far as “If it could happen in Tulsa…” Tulsa has a large Muslim population, mostly because of the petroleum industry.

billy on February 16, 2007 at 4:45 PM

Until the leaders of Islam condemn violence they condone it. If you are Muslim and criticize the death and violence caused by Jihad or Fatwas, you are an apostate. The radicals are running the religion and the “moderates” are infidels.

infidel on February 16, 2007 at 9:55 AM

Exactly!

If being a moderate Muslim makes one and infidel then, by definition, there really can be no such thing as a moderate Muslim.

You’re either Muslim or you are not. Period.

Lawrence on February 16, 2007 at 5:11 PM

I’m shocked, shocked to discover radicals are running the mosques in America. I’m also shocked, truly shocked that the mainstream media doesn’t cover it. Islam in America is ripe for an old-style 60 Minutes ambush interview, if it weren’t politically incorrect to do so. So somebody else must.

Tantor on February 16, 2007 at 5:21 PM

Time to reopen Manzenar.

opusrex on February 16, 2007 at 6:13 PM

Having grown up in Tulsa (and currently working there), I can tell you that Tulsans are accustomed to religious controversies taking place in their city. Usually, a religious controversy in Tulsa pertains to an individual Christian or to a Christian group. This current one just happens to pertain to Muslims.

Dodo David on February 16, 2007 at 6:47 PM

Hmmm,
Is a moderate Muslim one who hasn’t decided whether they want to blow me up yet? I never have trusted that word “moderate”.
Why cant we ask the “peaceful Muslims” to stand up? I’d rather that than Moderate.

Where am I wrong here?

-Wasteland Man

WastelandMan on February 16, 2007 at 8:22 PM

…Or is “peaceful Muslim” an oxymoron?

WastelandMan on February 16, 2007 at 8:23 PM

I live in Tulsa and I can tell you this has not been a big story here. In fact, I first heard of this watching the episode of H&C where he first appeared, and the second time I heard this story was right here. The only religious issues that get covered by the local media are all derived from Christian religions. The Muslim community in Tulsa is actually very small. From what I understand, it is also rather close-knit. It’s unlikely another Muslim would step up to defend this man because they would fear retribution and have nowhere else to turn. By contrast, if this happened in a Christian church, well, there’s another Christian church just down the street.

thedecider on February 16, 2007 at 9:10 PM

This is what should be on the MSM but we know it will not be. Great job!

I seem to recall a certain President saying something to the effect of “If you are not with us, then you are against us”. It should apply to Muslims, not just countries, and here is one Muslim who is “with us”, or at the very least, truthful, courageous and decent. And clearly his “Islamic Center” patrons are not. This is what we are asking decent Muslims to do – stand up and speak out against the violence in the name of their religion, unless they are willing to admit that such violence is an integral part. If they refuse, they should be suspect.

IrishEyes on February 16, 2007 at 9:16 PM

Their here and they ain’t queer!

sonnyspats1 on February 16, 2007 at 9:45 PM

As far as “If it could happen in Tulsa…” Tulsa has a large Muslim population, mostly because of the petroleum industry.
billy on February 16, 2007 at 4:45 PM

Actually the Muslim community here is quite small. The petroleum industry mostly moved to Houston during the 80′s and 90′s.

thedecider on February 16, 2007 at 10:54 PM

thedecider on February 16, 2007 at 10:54 PM

There are a lot of Iranians who stayed from the late 70′s after the revolution. Also a lot go to TU for petroleum engineering.
I don’t know how large it is in real terms, just that it is a lot bigger than anyone would think given Tulsa’s image.

billy on February 16, 2007 at 11:36 PM

We discussed this over at Free Republic when it happened. Perhaps Miftah should get a clue and leave Islam.

Connie on February 17, 2007 at 2:06 AM

If I could risk eternal damnation for leaving the Christian sect I was born into, this gentleman can risk losing something less lengthy (his neck) and leave the retrograde cult of the pedophile prophet.

Or is there something about its imperialistic and intolerant teachings (Suras 9:5 & 9:29-30, et al) that he likes?

Muslims that make you go “Hmmmm?”

profitsbeard on February 17, 2007 at 11:11 AM

Think about this – Christianity, for all of it’s faults real or imagined, stresses for the most part, the freedom of the individual body and soul. This includes the freedom to even deny God and to refrain from worship. Christians do not need to kill apostates – that is essentially what the concept of eternal damnation is for.

Islam, on the other hand, seeks to control the individual in all aspects, including thought. Submission is the key to being faithful here. While there may be elements of submission in any faith that are necessary for proper worship, with Islam it is in the extreme and deviation is fatal.

Could this be because those who practise the “faith” of Islam do not trust in God/Allah to damn those who have turned their back on Him?

Emmett J. on February 17, 2007 at 7:16 PM

I left Oklahoma drivin’ in a Pontiac
Just about to lose my mind
I was goin’ on to Arizona, maybe on to California
Where all the people live so fine
Liberals said I was crazy, my Imam called me lazy
I was goin’ to show ‘em all this time
‘Cause you know I ain’t no fool an’ I don’t need no more Islam schoolin’
I was born to just walk the line

Livin’ on Tulsa Islam time
Livin’ on Tulsa Islam time
Well you know I’ve been through it
When I set my watch back to it
Livin’ on Tulsa Islam time

Well there I was in the Mosque wishin’ I was doin’ good
Talkin’ on the telephone line
But they don’t need me in the Main Stream Media and nobody sings my songs
Guess I’m just wastin’ time
Well then I got to thinkin’, man Islam’s really sinkin’
And I really had a flash this time
I had my business leavin’ but everybody would be grievin’
If I went on back to Tulsa time

Livin’ on Tulsa Islam time
Livin’ on Tulsa Islam time
Gonna set my watch back to it
Cause you know I’ve been through it
Livin’ on Tulsa Islam time

Parley on February 17, 2007 at 7:41 PM

Parley on February 17, 2007 at 7:41 PM

Hah! Good one Parley.

thedecider on February 18, 2007 at 12:35 AM