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		<title>By: Nuke Gingrich &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Treason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nuke Gingrich &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Treason</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] UPDATE: Victory Caucus has the lists of the traitorous Republicans who surrendered along with the donks (h/t velvet hammer), HotAir gives the home states of the traitors [...]</description>
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		<title>By: georgej</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 09:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honora:

First you are full of crap, as usual. 

Second you display the typical hatred and elitism of liberals for conservatives.  

Third, you have NO IDEA how much your fellow citizens who live in &quot;fly over&quot; country resent &lt;strong&gt;your&lt;/strong&gt; feelings toward them -- with complete justification, by the way.  

Let&#039;s address some of your vapid points....

As for the &quot;blue state&quot; universities and the &quot;Ivy League,&quot; &lt;strong&gt;they are NOTHING but overpriced leftwing cauldrons of HATRED for America and middle class values.&lt;/strong&gt; 

This is where &lt;em&gt;politically correct &lt;/em&gt;was born.  

This is where they cheered and applauded the strike on New York City and the Pentagon on 9/11/01. 

This is where tuition costs -- to keep the &lt;em&gt;pampered princes of leftwing academia &lt;/em&gt;in their perfumed delight -- are the highest in the country; where the annual increases in tuition are TRIPLE that of inflation.  

This is where they give &lt;strong&gt;FULL RIDE SCHOLARSHIPS to former members of the Taliban&lt;/strong&gt;, while American kids go begging (or go deeply and massively in debt).  

This is where the INTOLERANCE of people with opposing views are celebrated; where they PHYSICALLY ASSAULT conservatives and Republicans when they come to speak to the students. This is where &quot;free speech&quot; is only free to LEFTWING speakers, and never to the right. 

As for crime, when expressed as the &lt;em&gt;rate per 100,000&lt;/em&gt;, Red States have consistently lower crime rates than blue states, according to FBI&#039;s Uniform Crime Report and the analysis by John Lott and Gary Kleck .  &lt;strong&gt;Stop lying&lt;/strong&gt; using Handgun Control, Inc (oops, they now call themselves the Brady Organization) faux numbers.

Higher blue state income is countered by HIGHER BLUE STATE TAXES and HIGHER BLUE STATE GOVERNMENTAL CORRUPTION. NO surprise here -- every big city in the country is run by corrupt, tax and spend, DEMOCRATS. In addition, to being the highest TAXING states, the highest HOUSING COSTS, the HIGHEST FOOD COSTS, the HIGHEST COST OF LIVING &lt;strong&gt;occurs ONLY in the Blue states.&lt;/strong&gt;  The lowest cost of living occurs in red states.

Further, it is the BLUE STATES reps in Congress that tell the farmer and the rancher how to run their businesses and live their lives with their very stupid, BLUE STATE ORIGINATED environmental laws.  It is the BLUE STATES in Congress that have told the farmer and rancher that if their roads wash out, they cannot be rebuilt because it might offend some little known so-called &quot;endangered&quot; species.  It is the BLUE STATES in Congress that told the people of Klamath Valley that their water rights were null and void, despite the drought and the bogus &quot;endangered&quot; salmon claims.

But don&#039;t ask two certain BLUE STATE SENATORS and a certain blue-balled (er, blue state) resident former CBS newscaster to allow floating windmills off the coast of Martha&#039;s Vineyard -- why it just might ruin their view.

And and while I&#039;m on the subject, let&#039;s not forget the AIR POLLUTION calls the Blue states: &quot;Home.&quot;

Finally....

Try looking at the election results by COUNTY.  Almost every rural and most suburban counties in America &lt;strong&gt;VOTE RED&lt;/strong&gt;, not blue, even in the &quot;blue&quot; states.  The crime ridden, tax consuming, lousy public schooled, highly taxed, big-budgeted corruptly governed, welfare collecting citizens in the BIG CITIES are the only reasons why WI, MN, IL and others are &quot;blue&quot; and not &quot;red.&quot; Because in the big cities, the &lt;strong&gt;DEAD always vote DEMOCRATIC&lt;/strong&gt;. 

You liberals have no idea how much you are resented and how much the rest of middle America hates what you have done to this country. This bitter divide between us &lt;strong&gt;WAS CAUSED BY LIBERALS AND DEMOCRATS.&lt;/strong&gt; It was caused by court decisions from &quot;activist&quot; judges.  It was caused by openly biased, hate-driven screeds from the &quot;MSM.&quot;  It was caused by continual coarsening of our culture and our values -- by LIBERALS in the entertainment industry.

And it is continued by the continuing disrepect of liberals towards their rural-living cousins -- who are conservatives.  

The name calling STARTED with you people.  The defamation, the blood libel started with your side in 1994. The use of the word &quot;Nazi&quot; and &quot;goosestepper&quot; originated with your side against my side.  Your side repeatedly screamed that Republicans were going to murder the poor and the elderly by reforming welfare.  Your side always plays the &lt;em&gt;race card&lt;/em&gt;.  Your side plays the &lt;em&gt;class warfare card&lt;/em&gt;, too.

But here is the best part, from my perspective: We outnumber you.  And your side knows it.  People like me who live in &quot;blue&quot; states are moving to red states, and we&#039;re taking our congressional seats with us.  So, your side is going to have to start your putsch pretty soon because the inevitability of history is on mine.

As I said, the next civil war is almost inevitable. The divide between us is too bitter. Your side will almost certainly start it, probably after the 2008 eelection.  Your side has already overreached itself, and you&#039;ve only been in power a month and a half.  

And when your liberal pals feel the reins of power slipping away, they&#039;ll do what they always do -- take to the streets. Scream that the vote was fixed (like it was fixed in 2006, right?). 

The media will be there, too, going balls to the wall, stiring up hatred of conservatives and Republicans as they usually do.  Let&#039;s face it, &lt;em&gt;civility is NOT liberalism&#039;s strong point.&lt;/em&gt;

Whether I want a civil war (I don&#039;t) is unimportant. It&#039;s going to happen.  Your side will start it.  Your side will lose.  Your side will want to eat and have electricity. My side will be controlling them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honora:</p>
<p>First you are full of crap, as usual. </p>
<p>Second you display the typical hatred and elitism of liberals for conservatives.  </p>
<p>Third, you have NO IDEA how much your fellow citizens who live in &#8220;fly over&#8221; country resent <strong>your</strong> feelings toward them &#8212; with complete justification, by the way.  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s address some of your vapid points&#8230;.</p>
<p>As for the &#8220;blue state&#8221; universities and the &#8220;Ivy League,&#8221; <strong>they are NOTHING but overpriced leftwing cauldrons of HATRED for America and middle class values.</strong> </p>
<p>This is where <em>politically correct </em>was born.  </p>
<p>This is where they cheered and applauded the strike on New York City and the Pentagon on 9/11/01. </p>
<p>This is where tuition costs &#8212; to keep the <em>pampered princes of leftwing academia </em>in their perfumed delight &#8212; are the highest in the country; where the annual increases in tuition are TRIPLE that of inflation.  </p>
<p>This is where they give <strong>FULL RIDE SCHOLARSHIPS to former members of the Taliban</strong>, while American kids go begging (or go deeply and massively in debt).  </p>
<p>This is where the INTOLERANCE of people with opposing views are celebrated; where they PHYSICALLY ASSAULT conservatives and Republicans when they come to speak to the students. This is where &#8220;free speech&#8221; is only free to LEFTWING speakers, and never to the right. </p>
<p>As for crime, when expressed as the <em>rate per 100,000</em>, Red States have consistently lower crime rates than blue states, according to FBI&#8217;s Uniform Crime Report and the analysis by John Lott and Gary Kleck .  <strong>Stop lying</strong> using Handgun Control, Inc (oops, they now call themselves the Brady Organization) faux numbers.</p>
<p>Higher blue state income is countered by HIGHER BLUE STATE TAXES and HIGHER BLUE STATE GOVERNMENTAL CORRUPTION. NO surprise here &#8212; every big city in the country is run by corrupt, tax and spend, DEMOCRATS. In addition, to being the highest TAXING states, the highest HOUSING COSTS, the HIGHEST FOOD COSTS, the HIGHEST COST OF LIVING <strong>occurs ONLY in the Blue states.</strong>  The lowest cost of living occurs in red states.</p>
<p>Further, it is the BLUE STATES reps in Congress that tell the farmer and the rancher how to run their businesses and live their lives with their very stupid, BLUE STATE ORIGINATED environmental laws.  It is the BLUE STATES in Congress that have told the farmer and rancher that if their roads wash out, they cannot be rebuilt because it might offend some little known so-called &#8220;endangered&#8221; species.  It is the BLUE STATES in Congress that told the people of Klamath Valley that their water rights were null and void, despite the drought and the bogus &#8220;endangered&#8221; salmon claims.</p>
<p>But don&#8217;t ask two certain BLUE STATE SENATORS and a certain blue-balled (er, blue state) resident former CBS newscaster to allow floating windmills off the coast of Martha&#8217;s Vineyard &#8212; why it just might ruin their view.</p>
<p>And and while I&#8217;m on the subject, let&#8217;s not forget the AIR POLLUTION calls the Blue states: &#8220;Home.&#8221;</p>
<p>Finally&#8230;.</p>
<p>Try looking at the election results by COUNTY.  Almost every rural and most suburban counties in America <strong>VOTE RED</strong>, not blue, even in the &#8220;blue&#8221; states.  The crime ridden, tax consuming, lousy public schooled, highly taxed, big-budgeted corruptly governed, welfare collecting citizens in the BIG CITIES are the only reasons why WI, MN, IL and others are &#8220;blue&#8221; and not &#8220;red.&#8221; Because in the big cities, the <strong>DEAD always vote DEMOCRATIC</strong>. </p>
<p>You liberals have no idea how much you are resented and how much the rest of middle America hates what you have done to this country. This bitter divide between us <strong>WAS CAUSED BY LIBERALS AND DEMOCRATS.</strong> It was caused by court decisions from &#8220;activist&#8221; judges.  It was caused by openly biased, hate-driven screeds from the &#8220;MSM.&#8221;  It was caused by continual coarsening of our culture and our values &#8212; by LIBERALS in the entertainment industry.</p>
<p>And it is continued by the continuing disrepect of liberals towards their rural-living cousins &#8212; who are conservatives.  </p>
<p>The name calling STARTED with you people.  The defamation, the blood libel started with your side in 1994. The use of the word &#8220;Nazi&#8221; and &#8220;goosestepper&#8221; originated with your side against my side.  Your side repeatedly screamed that Republicans were going to murder the poor and the elderly by reforming welfare.  Your side always plays the <em>race card</em>.  Your side plays the <em>class warfare card</em>, too.</p>
<p>But here is the best part, from my perspective: We outnumber you.  And your side knows it.  People like me who live in &#8220;blue&#8221; states are moving to red states, and we&#8217;re taking our congressional seats with us.  So, your side is going to have to start your putsch pretty soon because the inevitability of history is on mine.</p>
<p>As I said, the next civil war is almost inevitable. The divide between us is too bitter. Your side will almost certainly start it, probably after the 2008 eelection.  Your side has already overreached itself, and you&#8217;ve only been in power a month and a half.  </p>
<p>And when your liberal pals feel the reins of power slipping away, they&#8217;ll do what they always do &#8212; take to the streets. Scream that the vote was fixed (like it was fixed in 2006, right?). </p>
<p>The media will be there, too, going balls to the wall, stiring up hatred of conservatives and Republicans as they usually do.  Let&#8217;s face it, <em>civility is NOT liberalism&#8217;s strong point.</em></p>
<p>Whether I want a civil war (I don&#8217;t) is unimportant. It&#8217;s going to happen.  Your side will start it.  Your side will lose.  Your side will want to eat and have electricity. My side will be controlling them.</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Toldjah &#187; House resolution &#8216;condeming&#8217; the President&#8217;s Iraq plan passes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sister Toldjah &#187; House resolution &#8216;condeming&#8217; the President&#8217;s Iraq plan passes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 00:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Update: Ian has the roll call of the 17 Republicans who voted with the Dems: 1. Ron E. Paul (TX) 2. Thomas E. Petri (WI) 3. Bob Inglis (SC) 4. Jim Ramstad (MN) 5. Timothy V. Johnson (IL) 6. Walter Jones (NC) 7. Michael Castle (DE) 8. Ric Keller (FL) 9. Howard Coble (NC) 10. Mark S. Kirk (IL) 11. Steven C. LaTourette (OH) 12. Thomas M. Davis (VA) 13. Fred Upton (MI) 14. John J. Duncan (TN) 15. James T. Walsh (NY) 16. Philip S. English (PA) 17. Wayne Gilchrest (MD) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Timber Wolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timber Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 22:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote to good to pass up: Victor Davis Hanson, &quot;The Democratic Party reminds me of the Republicans circa 1965 or so—impotent, shrill, no ideas, conspiratorial, reactive, out-of-touch with most Americans, isolationist, and full of embarrassing spokesmen.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote to good to pass up: Victor Davis Hanson, &#8220;The Democratic Party reminds me of the Republicans circa 1965 or so—impotent, shrill, no ideas, conspiratorial, reactive, out-of-touch with most Americans, isolationist, and full of embarrassing spokesmen.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mojave Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mojave Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 17:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I am an American Soldier.
I am a Warrior and a member of a team.
I serve the people of the United States and
live the Army Values.
I will always place the mission first.
I will never accept defeat.
I will never quit.
I will never leave a fallen comrade.
I am disciplined, physically and mentally tough, trained and proficient in my warrior tasks and drills. I always maintain my arms, my equipment and myself.
I am an expert and I am a professional.
I stand ready to deploy, engage, and destroy the enemies of the United States of America in close combat.I am a guardian of freedom and the American way of life.
I am an American Soldier.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hoo-ah.

Can you imagine this type of democrat during WWII? They&#039;re traitors.

The biggest problem they have will be when Iraq stabilizes and we put it in the win column.  Oh, yah, then they&#039;ll just take credit for the victory.  How silly of me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I am an American Soldier.<br />
I am a Warrior and a member of a team.<br />
I serve the people of the United States and<br />
live the Army Values.<br />
I will always place the mission first.<br />
I will never accept defeat.<br />
I will never quit.<br />
I will never leave a fallen comrade.<br />
I am disciplined, physically and mentally tough, trained and proficient in my warrior tasks and drills. I always maintain my arms, my equipment and myself.<br />
I am an expert and I am a professional.<br />
I stand ready to deploy, engage, and destroy the enemies of the United States of America in close combat.I am a guardian of freedom and the American way of life.<br />
I am an American Soldier.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hoo-ah.</p>
<p>Can you imagine this type of democrat during WWII? They&#8217;re traitors.</p>
<p>The biggest problem they have will be when Iraq stabilizes and we put it in the win column.  Oh, yah, then they&#8217;ll just take credit for the victory.  How silly of me.</p>
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		<title>By: honora</title>
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		<dc:creator>honora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 17:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;More to the point, if you combine the Dems and those you refer to as “RINOs” how in the world do you get anywhere near a majority? 

honora on February 17, 2007 at 11:01 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Clarification:  how do you (as a conservative) get anywhere near a majority for conservatives.  Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>More to the point, if you combine the Dems and those you refer to as “RINOs” how in the world do you get anywhere near a majority? </p>
<p>honora on February 17, 2007 at 11:01 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Clarification:  how do you (as a conservative) get anywhere near a majority for conservatives.  Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Right Voices &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Links Of Interest &#38; Open Trackbacks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Right Voices &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Links Of Interest &#38; Open Trackbacks</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] 246 congressman, 17 Republicans disapprove of sending 20,000 more troops to Iraq [...]</description>
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		<title>By: honora</title>
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		<dc:creator>honora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 16:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;A new civil war is now almost inevitable. Red vs Blue. And unlike our previous Civil War, it won’t be fought over “states rights” or “union,” but *WHO* controls America: Liberals (Democrat and Republican traitors) or conservatives. Believe it or not, WE (the “red counties”) OUTNUMBER THEM. 

WE control the food supply. 

Almost all of America’s military bases ARE IN OUR COUNTIES.

The food distribution network (i.e., the railroads and interstate highways) run though RED counties, not blue.

The nation’s electrical power generation facilities are almost all sited in RED counties, not blue.

By an overwhelming majority, the members of the military are “red” not “blue.”

Most “blue” states have a preponderance of “Red” counties, but are only blue because of the size of their blue cities.

We could, if we wanted to, cut off and isolate the blue cities

It is only a matter of time before our side revolts against the Democratic Party controlled Congress. Hopefully, at the ballot box in 2008. I do sense an impending backlash. The Democrats crossed the line with this. America did NOT elect them to cause defeat in Iraq. 

georgej on February 17, 2007 at 2:57 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

First, you have lost your mind.  

Second, I don&#039;t think you want to go down the path of comparing the relative merits of blue and red states.

Guess which states are net contributors to the federal treasury?  Guess which are net recepients?


Yes red states have more highways and military bases and farms:  a whole lotta space.  However if you have an interest in other things, consider a blue state:

Education:  all Ivy League schools and 7 sisters;  USNews university rankings:  9 of 10.  (Duke being the exception)  Top states of % with college degree:  8 of 10, blue.

Income:  7 of 10; (bottom 10:  9 are red states) top Fortune 10:  7 or 10 are hq&#039;d in blue states

Health:  Life expectancy?  8 of top 10 are blue states (8 of bottom 10 are red).  Top hospitals:  8 of 10 are in blue states, and that&#039;s putting the Cleveland Clinic in a red state.

Quality of life:  most dangerous place to live (personal crime victim %)  7 of top 10 are red.  Culture?  top 10 orchestras in the US, 8 of 10 in blue states (again counting the Clvd Orchestra as a red state).

More to the point, if you combine the Dems and those you refer to as &quot;RINOs&quot; how in the world do you get anywhere near a majority?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>A new civil war is now almost inevitable. Red vs Blue. And unlike our previous Civil War, it won’t be fought over “states rights” or “union,” but *WHO* controls America: Liberals (Democrat and Republican traitors) or conservatives. Believe it or not, WE (the “red counties”) OUTNUMBER THEM. </p>
<p>WE control the food supply. </p>
<p>Almost all of America’s military bases ARE IN OUR COUNTIES.</p>
<p>The food distribution network (i.e., the railroads and interstate highways) run though RED counties, not blue.</p>
<p>The nation’s electrical power generation facilities are almost all sited in RED counties, not blue.</p>
<p>By an overwhelming majority, the members of the military are “red” not “blue.”</p>
<p>Most “blue” states have a preponderance of “Red” counties, but are only blue because of the size of their blue cities.</p>
<p>We could, if we wanted to, cut off and isolate the blue cities</p>
<p>It is only a matter of time before our side revolts against the Democratic Party controlled Congress. Hopefully, at the ballot box in 2008. I do sense an impending backlash. The Democrats crossed the line with this. America did NOT elect them to cause defeat in Iraq. </p>
<p>georgej on February 17, 2007 at 2:57 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>First, you have lost your mind.  </p>
<p>Second, I don&#8217;t think you want to go down the path of comparing the relative merits of blue and red states.</p>
<p>Guess which states are net contributors to the federal treasury?  Guess which are net recepients?</p>
<p>Yes red states have more highways and military bases and farms:  a whole lotta space.  However if you have an interest in other things, consider a blue state:</p>
<p>Education:  all Ivy League schools and 7 sisters;  USNews university rankings:  9 of 10.  (Duke being the exception)  Top states of % with college degree:  8 of 10, blue.</p>
<p>Income:  7 of 10; (bottom 10:  9 are red states) top Fortune 10:  7 or 10 are hq&#8217;d in blue states</p>
<p>Health:  Life expectancy?  8 of top 10 are blue states (8 of bottom 10 are red).  Top hospitals:  8 of 10 are in blue states, and that&#8217;s putting the Cleveland Clinic in a red state.</p>
<p>Quality of life:  most dangerous place to live (personal crime victim %)  7 of top 10 are red.  Culture?  top 10 orchestras in the US, 8 of 10 in blue states (again counting the Clvd Orchestra as a red state).</p>
<p>More to the point, if you combine the Dems and those you refer to as &#8220;RINOs&#8221; how in the world do you get anywhere near a majority?</p>
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		<title>By: honora</title>
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		<dc:creator>honora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 15:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;My eyes are too tired. Has anyone cross checked this list of RiNOs to see which ones are up for re-election in ‘08? I’d be willing to be it’s all of them.

As for Ron Paul, I haven’t ever counted him as a Republican. As someone pointed out very early, he is very much a Libertarian. You can’t win on that ticket in this part of TX though. 

SailorDave on February 17, 2007 at 9:56 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well the good news is you are right, they are all up for re-election.  The bad news is all representatives have to run every 2 years, a fact apparently new to you?

Add to the list of people who disagree with the surge Generals Pace, Casey and Abizaid.  Traitors all I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>My eyes are too tired. Has anyone cross checked this list of RiNOs to see which ones are up for re-election in ‘08? I’d be willing to be it’s all of them.</p>
<p>As for Ron Paul, I haven’t ever counted him as a Republican. As someone pointed out very early, he is very much a Libertarian. You can’t win on that ticket in this part of TX though. </p>
<p>SailorDave on February 17, 2007 at 9:56 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Well the good news is you are right, they are all up for re-election.  The bad news is all representatives have to run every 2 years, a fact apparently new to you?</p>
<p>Add to the list of people who disagree with the surge Generals Pace, Casey and Abizaid.  Traitors all I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: SailorDave</title>
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		<dc:creator>SailorDave</dc:creator>
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		<description>My eyes are too tired. Has anyone cross checked this list of RiNOs to see which ones are up for re-election in &#039;08? I&#039;d be willing to be it&#039;s all of them.

As for Ron Paul, I haven&#039;t ever counted him as a Republican. As someone pointed out very early, he is very much a Libertarian. You can&#039;t win on that ticket in this part of TX though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My eyes are too tired. Has anyone cross checked this list of RiNOs to see which ones are up for re-election in &#8216;08? I&#8217;d be willing to be it&#8217;s all of them.</p>
<p>As for Ron Paul, I haven&#8217;t ever counted him as a Republican. As someone pointed out very early, he is very much a Libertarian. You can&#8217;t win on that ticket in this part of TX though.</p>
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		<title>By: "7.62mm Justice" ™</title>
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		<dc:creator>"7.62mm Justice" ™</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 11:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Surge Vote Weekend...&lt;/strong&gt;

 Two big votes are scheduled for this weekend. The House and Senate are scheduled to be voting on a meaningless non-binding resolution against the joint al-Maliki/Bush/Petraeus &#8220;surge&#8221; plan.
The fact that Congress has not even given the pla...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Surge Vote Weekend&#8230;</strong></p>
<p> Two big votes are scheduled for this weekend. The House and Senate are scheduled to be voting on a meaningless non-binding resolution against the joint al-Maliki/Bush/Petraeus &#8220;surge&#8221; plan.<br />
The fact that Congress has not even given the pla&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: georgej</title>
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		<dc:creator>georgej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 07:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A new civil war is now almost inevitable. Red vs Blue. And unlike our previous Civil War, it won&#039;t be fought over &quot;states rights&quot; or &quot;union,&quot; but *WHO* controls America: Liberals (Democrat and Republican traitors) or conservatives.  Believe it or not, WE (the &quot;red counties&quot;) OUTNUMBER THEM.  

WE control the food supply.  

Almost all of America&#039;s military bases ARE IN OUR COUNTIES.

The food distribution network (i.e., the railroads and interstate highways) run though RED counties, not blue.

The nation&#039;s electrical power generation facilities are almost all sited in RED counties, not blue.

By an overwhelming majority, the members of the military are &quot;red&quot; not &quot;blue.&quot;

Most &quot;blue&quot; states have a preponderance of &quot;Red&quot; counties, but are only blue because of the size of their blue cities.

We could, if we wanted to, cut off and isolate the blue cities

It is only a matter of time before our side revolts against the Democratic Party controlled Congress. Hopefully, at the ballot box in 2008.  I do sense an impending backlash.  The Democrats crossed the line with this.  America did NOT elect them to cause defeat in Iraq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A new civil war is now almost inevitable. Red vs Blue. And unlike our previous Civil War, it won&#8217;t be fought over &#8220;states rights&#8221; or &#8220;union,&#8221; but *WHO* controls America: Liberals (Democrat and Republican traitors) or conservatives.  Believe it or not, WE (the &#8220;red counties&#8221;) OUTNUMBER THEM.  </p>
<p>WE control the food supply.  </p>
<p>Almost all of America&#8217;s military bases ARE IN OUR COUNTIES.</p>
<p>The food distribution network (i.e., the railroads and interstate highways) run though RED counties, not blue.</p>
<p>The nation&#8217;s electrical power generation facilities are almost all sited in RED counties, not blue.</p>
<p>By an overwhelming majority, the members of the military are &#8220;red&#8221; not &#8220;blue.&#8221;</p>
<p>Most &#8220;blue&#8221; states have a preponderance of &#8220;Red&#8221; counties, but are only blue because of the size of their blue cities.</p>
<p>We could, if we wanted to, cut off and isolate the blue cities</p>
<p>It is only a matter of time before our side revolts against the Democratic Party controlled Congress. Hopefully, at the ballot box in 2008.  I do sense an impending backlash.  The Democrats crossed the line with this.  America did NOT elect them to cause defeat in Iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 06:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The alternatives are to send in a real surge of much more than 20,000 troops or defund the occupation and bring them home. Washington does not have the gonads for either option.

Valiant on February 16, 2007 at 10:00 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I can agree with that first part.  I do think this surge is still far too little.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The alternatives are to send in a real surge of much more than 20,000 troops or defund the occupation and bring them home. Washington does not have the gonads for either option.</p>
<p>Valiant on February 16, 2007 at 10:00 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I can agree with that first part.  I do think this surge is still far too little.</p>
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		<title>By: profitsbeard</title>
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		<dc:creator>profitsbeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 06:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently some D.C. veterinarian put something really &lt;em&gt;binding&lt;/em&gt; around the testicular region of 246 Dems and 17 Repubs.

(&lt;em&gt;I forget what you call it for gelding rams but in Congress I think they call it a &#039;moral victory&lt;/em&gt;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently some D.C. veterinarian put something really <em>binding</em> around the testicular region of 246 Dems and 17 Repubs.</p>
<p>(<em>I forget what you call it for gelding rams but in Congress I think they call it a &#8216;moral victory</em>.)</p>
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		<title>By: Limerick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Limerick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 05:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you.&quot; -Trotsky</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you.&#8221; -Trotsky</p>
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		<title>By: Cop The Truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cop The Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 05:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Now the real fight begins...&lt;/strong&gt;

There&#039;s something obscene about a Congress that votes to send our men and women to war, yet doesn&#039;t have the guts to see that war through. Something disgusting about the way that the Democrats - and seventeen Republicans - would...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Now the real fight begins&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>There&#8217;s something obscene about a Congress that votes to send our men and women to war, yet doesn&#8217;t have the guts to see that war through. Something disgusting about the way that the Democrats &#8211; and seventeen Republicans &#8211; would&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Connie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Connie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 05:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Is something wrong here????

there it is on February 16, 2007 at 5:20 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That was great, and I&#039;m old enough to know how true it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Is something wrong here????</p>
<p>there it is on February 16, 2007 at 5:20 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>That was great, and I&#8217;m old enough to know how true it is.</p>
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		<title>By: annoyinglittletwerp</title>
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		<dc:creator>annoyinglittletwerp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 03:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My old congresman-Jerry Weller(R-IL) wasn&#039;t one of the turncoats...however since June I&#039;ve lived in Russ *spit* Carnahan&#039;s district in the St. Louis &#039;burbs.
I thought by moving to MO we&#039;d finally get to live in a red state-sadly I&#039;ve found that St. Louis County is more like Chicago lite.
too pissed(sorry for sounding unlady-like) to say more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My old congresman-Jerry Weller(R-IL) wasn&#8217;t one of the turncoats&#8230;however since June I&#8217;ve lived in Russ *spit* Carnahan&#8217;s district in the St. Louis &#8216;burbs.<br />
I thought by moving to MO we&#8217;d finally get to live in a red state-sadly I&#8217;ve found that St. Louis County is more like Chicago lite.<br />
too pissed(sorry for sounding unlady-like) to say more.</p>
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		<title>By: jaleach</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaleach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 03:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m against the surge too if it means playing pattycake with Al-Qaeda and associated goons. If we can send them over there to kick butt, I&#039;m all for it. But the lousy ROE won&#039;t let us do the job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m against the surge too if it means playing pattycake with Al-Qaeda and associated goons. If we can send them over there to kick butt, I&#8217;m all for it. But the lousy ROE won&#8217;t let us do the job.</p>
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		<title>By: reaganaut</title>
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		<dc:creator>reaganaut</dc:creator>
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		<description>I think I&#039;m more pissed that they spent all week on this useless, non-binding resolution on the taxpayers dime.

Way to go! How many illegals &lt;strike&gt;slipped&lt;/strike&gt; waltzed across the broder while The House was busy raising the morale of terrorist scum?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;m more pissed that they spent all week on this useless, non-binding resolution on the taxpayers dime.</p>
<p>Way to go! How many illegals <strike>slipped</strike> waltzed across the broder while The House was busy raising the morale of terrorist scum?</p>
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		<title>By: Perchant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perchant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 03:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I was a congressman, I&#039;d want assurances from Bush that he will fight tooth and nail at home the same way he expects our troops to fight on the battlefield in Iraq before I would agree to a surge.

That means executing traitors. I don&#039;t think Bush is up to it and I think that ultimately means a bad outcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I was a congressman, I&#8217;d want assurances from Bush that he will fight tooth and nail at home the same way he expects our troops to fight on the battlefield in Iraq before I would agree to a surge.</p>
<p>That means executing traitors. I don&#8217;t think Bush is up to it and I think that ultimately means a bad outcome.</p>
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		<title>By: rockhauler</title>
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		<dc:creator>rockhauler</dc:creator>
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		<description>Venezuela is going down the road that leads to hyper-inflation which will probably mean violence on a continental scale. 
Then there is Iraq, Iran, and North Korea, and don&#039;t ignore China, and a reinvograted Russia. Europe has forgotten their history. History is no longer taught in the United States, apparently. Economics certainly isn&#039;t. 

Meanwhile, Saturday, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.house.gov/conyers/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;John Connyers &lt;/a&gt; is speaking at an anti-war &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070216/NEWS06/70216019/1003/NEWS01&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; rally. &lt;/a&gt; Comments on The Detroit Free Press forum, for and against, are vicious. The democrats are raising troops for civil war which will be avoided only if the conservatives throw up their hands and surrender. 

Have a nice day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Venezuela is going down the road that leads to hyper-inflation which will probably mean violence on a continental scale.<br />
Then there is Iraq, Iran, and North Korea, and don&#8217;t ignore China, and a reinvograted Russia. Europe has forgotten their history. History is no longer taught in the United States, apparently. Economics certainly isn&#8217;t. </p>
<p>Meanwhile, Saturday, <a href="http://www.house.gov/conyers/" rel="nofollow">John Connyers </a> is speaking at an anti-war <a href="http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070216/NEWS06/70216019/1003/NEWS01" rel="nofollow"> rally. </a> Comments on The Detroit Free Press forum, for and against, are vicious. The democrats are raising troops for civil war which will be avoided only if the conservatives throw up their hands and surrender. </p>
<p>Have a nice day.</p>
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		<title>By: JackM</title>
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		<dc:creator>JackM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 03:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So a bunch of treasonous democrats disagree with Bush.

Anything else new?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So a bunch of treasonous democrats disagree with Bush.</p>
<p>Anything else new?</p>
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		<title>By: SpartRan</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpartRan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 03:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every one of these miserable whiners who voted in favor of this non-binding stunt should listen to FDR&#039;s speech about &quot;negotiated peace&quot; - then either come up with an &lt;strong&gt;alternative plan for victory&lt;/strong&gt; or get the **** out of my country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every one of these miserable whiners who voted in favor of this non-binding stunt should listen to FDR&#8217;s speech about &#8220;negotiated peace&#8221; &#8211; then either come up with an <strong>alternative plan for victory</strong> or get the **** out of my country.</p>
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