Comments on: Video: Troops tell Geraldo they support the surge

By: major john

major john — Sat, 17 Feb 2007 02:53:29 +0000

Zorro – that and Greta…

By: Zorro

Zorro — Sat, 17 Feb 2007 02:27:07 +0000

Allah, it’s always great to see our guys on the tube even if they have to appear with Geraldo. But I hold the same low opinion of Geraldo as you, I think hiring him was the one major mistake FNC has made since they hit the airways…

By: major john

major john — Sat, 17 Feb 2007 02:07:26 +0000

OK, we’ll agree to disagree, just a bit then. I do want less restrictive ROE. I felt too constrained sometimes myself.

They had no problems subduing Chechnya.

Try to find a Maikop Brigade survivor or a parent in Beslan to tell that to…

If you want to carpet bomb entire cities, ala Grozny…me, not so much.

By: PRCalDude

PRCalDude — Sat, 17 Feb 2007 00:11:09 +0000

We have the means to kill the bad guys now without simply killing everyone in an entire neighborhood. I doubt very much there were many innocents hanging around Fallujah, so there you could use more destructive power.

I advocated dropping leaflets beforehand. Besides, we didn’t use more destructive power in Fallujah, we went door to door. The Soviet action in Afghanistan was largely disrupted by stinger missiles, which we supplied. They had no problems subduing Chechnya. Seeing as we’ve had 5 helos shot down in Iraq in the past month, we might be in for the same thing.

My original critique of the Commander in Chief is still valid. On the surface, he displays a love of the troops. But his softness of heart toward the enemy betrays a lack of love toward the troops.

By: major john

major john — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 23:27:11 +0000

I have 22 years in, enlisted and officer. DOR for O-4 is 7 Feb 03.

We have the means to kill the bad guys now without simply killing everyone in an entire neighborhood. I doubt very much there were many innocents hanging around Fallujah, so there you could use more destructive power.

You seem to be trying to cast me in some sort of “soft” light. I had no problem steering an Apache onto three guys who had just shot at us. They aren’t shooting anymore. I didn;t tell the pilot to go and shoot up the village they were coming from to teach a lesson or such. Soviets tried that were I was and it didn’t seem to work too well. Instead, everyone got to see three dead bad guys as an example for everyone else, then they went home to their non-destroyed homes and thought about it. No trouble from that place for the rest of the tour…

By: PRCalDude

PRCalDude — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:58:25 +0000

I hope we disagree on style more than effect.

major john on February 16, 2007 at 5:53 PM

I don’t know if you just made major or what, but my pastor’s son is a JO in the Marines and he was in the battle of Fallujah and saw some of his Marines die. None of our boys deserved to be dead “to win hearts and minds.” Flattening that city was the way to go and I don’t care what the left thinks.

You don’t have to flatten entire neighborhoods to frighten your enemies.

It sure helped end WWII, now didn’t it?

By: major john

major john — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:53:36 +0000

I don’t do nuance either. I prefer to have our enemies destroyed and not act like the French Army in Algeria.

You don’t have to flatten entire neighborhoods to frighten your enemies. And you if you appear to be advocating such, you help bolster left-wing preconceptions.

I hope we disagree on style more than effect.

By: PRCalDude

PRCalDude — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 21:41:59 +0000

And there is your enlightened quote of the day. I’m glad I am not the S-5 of a unit where you might be in charge…

I’m not on active duty anymore, thanks. I’m a squid anyway. I’m merely speaking as a student of history on how things *used* to be done. Perhaps my position lacks sufficient ‘nuance’ for you? I just don’t do nuance. If we’re to perpetuate the Pax Americana, we need to convince our enemies to be afraid of us. Right now, they’re not.

By: RedinBlueCounty

RedinBlueCounty — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 20:52:09 +0000

You can bet that most of the MSM will not show ANY troops supporting the increase in troop levels. You can also bet the all the left-wing sites will call this propaganda, as some are already calling it here. Some people understand that any statement can be considered propaganda, but the public at large looks upon the term ‘propaganda’ as the use of misleading or false information to influence public opinion.

You can be sure that those opposed to the ’surge’ will use the term ‘propaganda’ when discussing the statements of troops who support this increase. The use of that term will give the false impression that the troops are being forced to say something they don’t really mean, just like some have suggested here.

By: major john

major john — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 20:17:33 +0000

Drop leaflets, then start shelling. Arabs have lived in tents for thousands of years, they can handle it again.

And there is your enlightened quote of the day. I’m glad I am not the S-5 of a unit where you might be in charge…

By: PRCalDude

PRCalDude — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 17:41:39 +0000

When troops are suggesting that we take the gloves off, you know that the problem is with the Commander in Chief. He needs to grow a backbone, stop loving the enemy, and let us start fighting like Grant, Sherman, Patton, or any other great general would have us fight. Drop leaflets, then start shelling. Arabs have lived in tents for thousands of years, they can handle it again.

By: SWEt

SWEt — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 17:33:56 +0000

YEAH for our troops!! May God continue to guide and protect them!! Don’t you know that was one of the hardest things Geraldo has ever had to do! :0) I’m sure reporting what our troops actually think went against everything he has ever stood for…..Again, YEAH for our troops, I’m so proud of the excellent job they are doing!

By: Esthier

Esthier — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 15:36:36 +0000

Propaganda? Why are you complaining about good propaganda? So what? We did it in WWII and I’ll tell you, that helped us win.

Ian on February 15, 2007 at 10:54 PM

Sure, but if it looks like propoganda, then it isn’t effective.

By: BacaDog

BacaDog — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 12:31:24 +0000

We did it in WWII and I’ll tell you, that helped us win.

Ian on February 15, 2007 at 10:54 PM

Sure did, Ian, and to great effect.

Roosevelt and Hoover would never have permitted the publication of stories placing the enemy in a positive light. If the troops wouldn’t have outright shot a reporter for doing so, the folks back home would have burned the newspaper to the ground and tarred and feathered the publisher.

Nowadays it is a freaking “badge of honor” in the media to see who can be the most sensationalist, whether the story is true or not.

By: PinkyBigglesworth

PinkyBigglesworth — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 06:02:04 +0000

I don’t believe “They can do the job, if Washington just gives them the chance”, it should be

“if the Democrat Party, the MSM, and the Left in the United States just gives them the chance, they will win this war….”

By: angryamerican

angryamerican — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 05:50:17 +0000

Propaganda? Why are you complaining about good propaganda? So what? We did it in WWII and I’ll tell you, that helped us win.

Ian on February 15, 2007 at 10:54 PM

So true Ian. I agree.

By: Jones Zemkophill

Jones Zemkophill — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 05:27:05 +0000

I’ve been watching C-span tonight just for the heck of it.

Rep. Steve Buyer is the first politician in YEARS that has impressed me. His remarks at 11:50 (roughly) PM Eastern time on 02/15/2007 were moving.

Listening to how he actually does have a thorough understanding of the factual situation impressed me. There are plenty of people on both sides that are fools. Some with good intentions, some with ill intentions, but it is rare to find a person who applies wisdom and facts to an issue.

By: Demon Blog

Demon Blog — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 04:38:30 +0000

Geraldo says 90% of the troops he has talked to embrace the “Surge”…

Video: Troops tell Geraldo they support the surge Listen to the troops… I say again, "Listen to the troops." ……

By: webdemon

webdemon — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 03:55:50 +0000

The president says that the gloves are off, and I hope that is the case. We can’t win a PC war. If the rules of engagement are limited, we will have a case like Somalia, where the troops had to call HQ and confirm that they were being fired upon, while our guys were being picked off by the enemy left and right.
Hey Allahpundit, why exactly is propaganda a bad thing? Without propaganda the US was putting out countering the Nazi propaganda, we never would have had the support of the american people in that war, especially if we had news organizations like CNN that keep a running total of the casualties. The problem I see is that the left has the anti-war propaganda, and the enemy has anti-American propaganda, but the president isn’t allowed to use propaganda for support of this war?
The fact that 2/3 of the population of this country is against this war is proof that the leftist propaganda is working. The fact that the 10% of the “Moderate” Muslim population that is on the fence is starting to lean toward the Jihadists is proof that the Anti-American propaganda is working, yet we see NO propaganda for support of this war from the president or his cabinate, because that just wouldn’t be politically correct. Where is the logic in that?
Where are the rebuttles to the idea that 500 serine tipped artillary rounds aren’t WMDs?
Why is he not pointing out the fact that the entire Scooter Libby trial revolves around the fact that Joe Wilson lied, and Saddam did in fact lobby the Nigerians for nuclear material? Plus, the fact that Valery Plame was not an “operative” when her name was “Leaked” which would negate any claim that a crime was committed.
Why is he not confirming the fact that Saddam harbored al Qaeta terrorists, and trained members of the Taliban Army. These facts had been confirmed by not only intelligence agencies, but by ABC news.
Why is he not standing up to the claim that he lied to go to war, when he, I, you, and most of the conservative blog community knows that it is not true?
Why are we, and the president so afraid of propaganda that is so very needed right now, especially when there is a debate in the congress that has this campaign, and the safety of this country hanging in the balance?

By: Ian

Ian — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 03:54:32 +0000

Propaganda? Why are you complaining about good propaganda? So what? We did it in WWII and I’ll tell you, that helped us win.

By: Tony737

Tony737 — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 03:49:48 +0000

Propaganda is half the war effort, but in this case, all we gotta do is get the truth out and we win.

By: 91Veteran

91Veteran — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 03:20:17 +0000

IIRC, wasn’t Geraldo thrown out of Iraq once already for drawing maps in the sand?
harrison on February 15, 2007 at 9:58 PM

Yeah, at the start of the war. He was embedded with the Rakkasans (sp).

By: harrison

harrison — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 02:58:13 +0000

IIRC, wasn’t Geraldo thrown out of Iraq once already for drawing maps in the sand?

By: RightWinged

RightWinged — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 02:50:04 +0000

Rightwinged, the NBC reporter in question is Richard Engel. He is a liar.

God bless the troops. They are the hope of America’s future.

Phil Byler on February 15, 2007 at 9:02 PM

Yup, that’s the one. Thanks Phil.

By: csdeven

csdeven — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 02:23:36 +0000

This is a great peice! Real troops saying what they feel instead of politicians saying what they THINK people want to hear.

Kick butt and take names guys! God bless our troops, their families, the commanders, and the commander in chief!