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posted at 1:42 pm on February 11, 2007 by Allahpundit
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I wanted to save it for Valentine’s Day but everyone will have seen it by then.

Here you go. It appears to be real.


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A wonderful story. Thanks Allah!

Ian on February 11, 2007 at 1:47 PM

As an Marine I find this in extremely poor taste. Some of your posts lately have brought shame to this site.

Wade on February 11, 2007 at 1:48 PM

As an Marine I find this in extremely poor taste. Some of your posts lately have brought shame to this site.

What are you talking about? What’s shameful about this?

Allahpundit on February 11, 2007 at 1:49 PM

I have nothing but immense respect for this couple and their family.

I wish them the best.

Thank you for your service.

DWB on February 11, 2007 at 1:50 PM

Wade: As a Korean War Marine, I find your comment reprehensible…If you are a Marine, which I doubt, you should have been as happy for the Marine and his wife in the picture as I was. God Bless him and her as he has a hard row to hoe…but he will get it done because he IS a Marine !

SEMPER FI !

DoctorDentons on February 11, 2007 at 2:00 PM

Not only is it real. There was a huge story on this couple in the otherwise usually insipid People Magazine a while ago (I think before the holidays). That is a true love story. And it was also very inspiring. There are many soldiers returning disfigured. It’s touching that this woman sees beyond looks and sees the real man beneath. That’s how I felt when I read about them in the usually vapid People.

Debbie Schlussel on February 11, 2007 at 2:00 PM

Remarkable, not shameful. Extraordinary love, dedication and courage. Thanks Allah.

SouthernDem on February 11, 2007 at 2:01 PM

The shameful thing is that we have to dig through the web to find these stories of our heroic fighting men. This stuff should lead the MSM news everyday.
Its disgusting that today’s Audie Murphys and Pappy Boyingtons are never heard of.

Iblis on February 11, 2007 at 2:04 PM

Our lousy politicians seem to have forgotten that these wonderful Americans, these men and women who sacrifice so much for all us, are the real reason they can sit in their nice, comfy chairs in DC and make decisions for the rest of us. I wish Ty and Renee all the best and a huge “thank you” to Ty and all our soldiers – America loves you. Allah, I don’t see anything shameful about – not sure what Wade is talking about, either.

bloggless on February 11, 2007 at 2:07 PM

Very real, and very touching…

Video here

JetBoy on February 11, 2007 at 2:17 PM

If you are a Marine, which doubt ..DoctorDentons

I was in the 2nd Force Recon and who the hell are you to question my service? You got something to say about the post just say it and don’t dishonor yourself by questioning my 26 yrs of service.

As far as shameful, I find shame in the posting by Allah in exploiting this Marines situation. Leave it for others who will post this in hopes of getting more site hits.

Wade on February 11, 2007 at 2:18 PM

As far as shameful, I find shame in the posting by Allah in exploiting this Marines situation. Leave it for others who will post this in hopes of getting more site hits.

I’m not “exploiting” it. I’m calling attention to it. It’s a great story and people should know about it. Geez.

Allahpundit on February 11, 2007 at 2:22 PM

As others have said, it’s definitely real. I remember seeing him on spirit of the Wild, Ted Nugent’s hunting show a while back. Here’s a story about it.

forged rite on February 11, 2007 at 2:25 PM

God bless this couple. I find them both very inspiring.

infidel on February 11, 2007 at 2:28 PM

As far as shameful, I find shame in the posting by Allah in exploiting this Marines situation. Leave it for others who will post this in hopes of getting more site hits.

Wade on February 11, 2007 at 2:18 PM

Or you can look at it this way. AP is sharing the story of an incredibly brave, loving couple who are living through an extremely difficult situation. The publicity is to tell their story and to remind us that others have sacrificed more than we can imagine. If Allah did not post this I might have learned about it from another source but you cannot fault him any more than you can fault the anyone else who makes their story public. These people seem to want our help and the only way that happens is if we KNOW that they need it.

Bill C on February 11, 2007 at 2:30 PM

Sorry about that, here’s the story.

forged rite on February 11, 2007 at 2:30 PM

What an emotional photo… both an inspiring and sad. I wonder why she posed with such a somber look?

God bless them both. I’m in awe.

MT on February 11, 2007 at 2:32 PM

This is an excellent tribute to love and sacrifice, devotion and honor, both to the Marine who was willing to give his life for something he believes in and to his wife who remains committed to the man she loves, no matter the circumstances.

It’s a shame more couples are not committed to each other as these two are. Just think of how many divorces would be avoided if all couples believed that love know no boundaries and they actually lived up to the commitment an engagement or marriage requires.

My thoughts and prayers goes out to this couple and all others that face the same, or similar, hardships.

RedinBlueCounty on February 11, 2007 at 2:33 PM

who the hell are you to question my service?

The same question could be asked of you: Who the hell are you to question the motives behind posting this story? Who the hell are you to call this disgracefull?

RedinBlueCounty on February 11, 2007 at 2:38 PM

We need more stories like this, not less. Perhaps Wade would prefer more of the relentless doom and gloom the MSM feeds us.

packsoldier on February 11, 2007 at 2:43 PM

Easy fellas….settle down…

bloggless on February 11, 2007 at 2:48 PM

As far as shameful, I find shame in the posting by Allah in exploiting this Marines situation. Leave it for others who will post this in hopes of getting more site hits.

Wade

Perhaps you can elaborate as to how this is so offensive and exploitative because this was not seen as such by the majority of us

Defector01 on February 11, 2007 at 2:51 PM

I have been married for 29 years. My appearance and that of my husband have changed quite a bit in that time. I fully understand why this young woman that obviously loves her mate would continue to stand by him even after his outward appearance has changed. Isn’t that what all of us “old farts” that are still married to their “young lovers” do?
BZ to both of them!

Babs on February 11, 2007 at 2:58 PM

And Wade, you could post pix of my hubby from 30 years ago and no one would ever believe that someone would still love him!

Babs on February 11, 2007 at 3:00 PM

Heart-breaking and inspiring. God bless the both of them.

Mallard T. Drake on February 11, 2007 at 3:06 PM

Thanks for this post Allah. As Ollie North would say, his is a war story that needs to be told. And the timing, St. Valentine’s Day just around the corner; the story illustrates true love is not of the flesh but of the heart/soul.

There is no pity here; just pride.

Zorro on February 11, 2007 at 3:09 PM

Wade. I know marines and you are not acting like a marine. This is a story about love and courage and is an excellent example of the how the best of the best of our countrymen obtain victory for the country and themselves on so many levels. If you are a marine Wade, you would know that semper fi means semper fidelis. This translates as “Always Faithful”. I know that I am always faithful when I celebrate when good things happen to our guys who have sacrficed so much for all of us.

The bond they shared with each other was nothing but strengthened through the ordeal. & when Tyler was released from the intense hospital treatments, the couple married.

I don’t see how you would think that this article is somehow degrading. Faith, Love, Strength and Courage wins the day. Stories like this give me hope. What’s wrong with that Wade?

Guardian on February 11, 2007 at 3:16 PM

Keep on postin’ allah.

Why is it we know more about the heroes of WWI and WWII than the war against islamofascism? (rhetorical)

Mojave Mark on February 11, 2007 at 3:22 PM

I was in the 2nd Force Recon and who the hell are you to question my service? You got something to say about the post just say it and don’t dishonor yourself by questioning my 26 yrs of service.

No insult intended, but you served in the same company for over 25 years? That’s amazing! I only served for three years and I was stationed in two different companies and in two different commands, USAREUR and CONUS. I guess that’s the one of the differences between the Marines and the Army.

RedinBlueCounty on February 11, 2007 at 3:23 PM

Apparently, his next words were, “do you want to make out?” Despite the ordeal, his dry wit and sense of humor had remained intact.

wow. now, that’s a man. i’m speechless and a little bit teary-eyed.

jummy on February 11, 2007 at 3:25 PM

Wade,

Did you take time to read the link that Allah provided?

The story of this Marine and his new wife is nothing short of a story of heroism, love and devotion. What I see by Allah posting this story is respect (that has been more than earned), not explotation.

I well remember the days of Viet Nam – the stories that this country were told of the returning veterans were stories of ruined lives, waste, loss and dispair – never mind that millions of our returning vets lead good, productive, happy lives.

I don’t want this to happen to happen to Marines like you, Soldiers like my husband, or any of those who have served, sacrificed and perservered.

Our media provides a very distorted view of Marines, Soldiers, Airmen and Sailors- (Arkins’ recent column anyone?) – your stories, your true stories, need to be told.

You deserve nothing less.

Tink on February 11, 2007 at 3:25 PM

Thanks, Allah. I saw the pic and story a couple days ago on FRee Republic..

All I can say is..

God Bless this couple.

normsrevenge on February 11, 2007 at 3:33 PM

Out of nowhere, a suicide bomber blew himself up by the truck. Tyler is specific on his memories of the event: “I just remember not seeing and felt like getting hit in the face with a baseball bat. The next thing I remember is just sitting down just yelling in pain,” he had said. The suicide bombing had created a blast that had literally engulfed Tyler in an inferno – an attack that punctured his brain with shrapnel. He was placed on a helicopter, and his clothes were cut from his burnt body.

This is what AQ wants to do here. This is what AQ would be doing to Americans right now if it were not for Tyler and men like him. They are fighting this fight, standing in the breach, for the rest of us. We owe him and his brethren a lifetime of honor and respect.

They are our warrior caste, our higher men. Not because of their medals, not because of their uniforms, but because of their choice to stand in the gate and suffer for the sake of those they love. Men such as Tyler have earned the right to be called an American.

May God bless him and his family with happiness, peace and joy for the rest of their lives.

spmat on February 11, 2007 at 3:54 PM

Ty and Renee Ziegel see love not with their eyes but with their heart

Marines and Soldiers like Ty fight so that people like the Breck Girl, John Kerry, Paris Hilton, Jane Fonda, Madonna, Keith Olbermann, coolobserver at KOS, Ms. Marcotte, etc. can be so beautiful.

Entelechy on February 11, 2007 at 3:59 PM

Not only is it real. There was a huge story on this couple in the otherwise usually insipid People Magazine a while ago (I think before the holidays). That is a true love story. And it was also very inspiring. There are many soldiers returning disfigured. It’s touching that this woman sees beyond looks and sees the real man beneath. That’s how I felt when I read about them in the usually vapid People.

Debbie Schlussel on February 11, 2007 at 2:00 PM

Quite true and I remember reading it. I also remember feeling an overwhelming sense of pride in this young man and woman for a whole lot of reasons. God bless them and thank you, Allah, for posting this.

Glynn on February 11, 2007 at 4:03 PM

What a beautiful story, we need more like this in the MSM.

I think Wade is just trying to draw people over to his website.

ctmom on February 11, 2007 at 4:08 PM

I’m not “exploiting” it. I’m calling attention to it. It’s a great story and people should know about it. Geez.

Allahpundit on February 11, 2007 at 2:22 PM

Allah is completely right, and you’re either very confused or I don’t know what Wade. I disagree with AP quite a bit here, but I have no idea where you’re coming from on this.

Exit Question For Arkin: Is this one of those “mercenaries”? I’m sure he appreciated your column.

RightWinged on February 11, 2007 at 4:22 PM

I think Wade is just trying to draw people over to his website.

I think you may be right. I just looked at his site and only two people have commented since Feb 3rd (which is as far as I looked). Not a big following, I would say.

RedinBlueCounty on February 11, 2007 at 5:14 PM

Thank you for this letting us know about this wonderful couple. What a story of courage and faithful love.

INC on February 11, 2007 at 5:19 PM

Allah, I haven’t seen this story before & I thank you for posting it. I think it is a beautiful story but also wonder why she looks so somber in the picture. I don’t know, maybe the photog snapped at the wrong time when she was telling some little ring bearer to move out of the way or something. I wish we’d see more stories like this as well.
In todays Honolulu Advertiser they devoted a whole section to the wonders of those at the Grammys speaking out about the war and how wonderful that is and how that should be celebrated because these singers are patriots. They don’t know wht a patriot is.

Catie96706 on February 11, 2007 at 5:22 PM

Let me add that I meant to say that could be the reason she looks so somber not anything about being married it just seems that sometimes the photog snaps at the wrong time and people look mad when they’re not.

Catie96706 on February 11, 2007 at 5:23 PM

Great story..I do not see how AP is exploiting this couple..I think some people just look for things to be outraged about.

EnochCain on February 11, 2007 at 5:23 PM

I pray that everything I have ever wanted, ever prayed for, ever dreamed of, that Ty and Renee Ziegel may have all of that , and more.

God Bless you two.

shooter on February 11, 2007 at 5:33 PM

I submitted the link to the picture to Allah, amoung others, because it just spoke a thousand words.

There’s really a few reasons it hit me so hard. One, this man had the dignity and self-respect to get married despite being horribly burnt. Most men would wallow in self pity and not allow their woman to do what this one did and proceed WITHOUT WAITING, to get married.

And this woman. I can’t imagine what is in her mind but I know that her heart is full of love and is pure.

The picture was posted with their permission to the original site, for their own private reasons. But the message of

LOYALTY
FAITH
DEDICATION
LOVE
HONOR

that it sends is beyond compare.

When I think about the Americans that our troops are fighting so hard for, I think of people like these. They make me want to be a better man.

Honor and valor both on and off the battlefield. My God how incredible.

unamused on February 11, 2007 at 5:42 PM

Others have already made many politic and probably also heartfelt remarks about the story and photos, so I’ll just add, “Yikes.”

Kralizec on February 11, 2007 at 5:47 PM

Now that, is a love story.

I wish them a life time of happiness together.

Talon on February 11, 2007 at 6:05 PM

These are the real Beautiful People. Thanks, AP, for post this.

baldilocks on February 11, 2007 at 6:06 PM

posting

baldilocks on February 11, 2007 at 6:06 PM

The same question could be asked of you: Who the hell are you to question the motives behind posting this story? Who the hell are you to call this disgracefull (sic)?

RedinBlueCounty on February 11, 2007 at 2:38 PM

This is worth a reply, most the rest not. HotAir is commercially driven. Follow the money and you will find motive. As for my site, I can less if you visit or not as I support my own site and it has nothing to do with number of hits. If fact, please don’t bother coming to my site as you are not welcomed. That is who I am!

HotAir until some recent posts has shown respect for others, in most cases. I think not in this case.

Wade on February 11, 2007 at 6:54 PM

Inspiring

SouthernGent on February 11, 2007 at 6:57 PM

Allah if you can, can you reposition the Career Builder’s Ad, which is a video. It does not belong where it is at with such a serious post. Especially with an ad for Disney seeking Pirates for their establishments. I do not know if this is rotating advertising and won’t be seen by others but that is what I am seeing. I am sure it was not intentionally put there, just happens to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. Probably appropriate for a lighter posting, elsewhere.

StuLongIsland on February 11, 2007 at 7:01 PM

God Bless our troops…

Ya’ll know this story coulda’ ended with her just single then no fanfare no people magazine. the miracle is he’s home and they continued on with their plans. Its inspiring.

-Wasteland Man

WastelandMan on February 11, 2007 at 7:06 PM

This couple is inspiring. Makes me think about how shallow I can be at times when meeting dates etc. One of the things with advanced medicine, people are surviving on the battle field. True love, never dies, it has to be maintained though. This couple will probably have to go through a lot in their lives. I hope the woman is strong and their families are supportive. Bless this couple.

StuLongIsland on February 11, 2007 at 7:07 PM

Wade,

You still haven’t really said what is so objectionable about pointing out this story. That’s what the media does – relay stories to the public, weather they’re the alternative media or the MSM.

I’m quite sure that this fine couple would approve of us hearing about their story, and they don’t need you to cause a controversy involving them.

Thanks, Allah.

freakagriep on February 11, 2007 at 7:17 PM

Marines and Soldiers like Ty fight so that people like the Breck Girl, John Kerry, Paris Hilton, Jane Fonda, Madonna, Keith Olbermann, coolobserver at KOS, Ms. Marcotte, etc. can be so beautiful.

I do not and will not buy this ‘pc’ line that has assended since this war started. The arse-holes that are speaking against this country (like the DailyKaos link that was here a few days ago from a MickZ) should move the f**k out of this country and pronto. I would never fight for arse-holes like this. They just so happen to be sorry a** people that are in this country among true Americans and patriots that I love and respect.

Ty–you Da’ Man! “Thank You”

auspatriotman on February 11, 2007 at 7:21 PM

Holy crap Wade, people making money in news media! Who would’ve thought?! Shocking.

..

On the plus side, your decision to reply in such an arrogant fashion lets all of us know that, suprise, you’re not worth replying to either, so this’ll be the first and the last from myself.

Cheers.

Reaps on February 11, 2007 at 7:36 PM

Just letting you guys know.

Big mean ol’ Mortis just cried when he saw this.

Mortis on February 11, 2007 at 7:54 PM

I’m quite sure that this fine couple would approve of us hearing about their story, and they don’t need you to cause a controversy involving them.

Thanks, Allah.

freakagriep on February 11, 2007 at 7:17 PM

Considering that they had the courage to go on freaking Oprah, I’m quite sure you’d be right. (But apparently they were exploiting themselves, in Wade’s universe.) This is an inspiring and touching story, one that we can all learn something from.

Just letting you guys know.

Big mean ol’ Mortis just cried when he saw this.

Mortis on February 11, 2007 at 7:54 PM

Well, don’t feel like the Lone Ranger–from another granite-hearted bastard.

ReubenJCogburn on February 11, 2007 at 8:12 PM

When I saw the picture in the first linky I too thought it in bad taste but when I read the story I was knocked over by the spirit of this couple and their love. Thanks Allah.

Buzzy on February 11, 2007 at 8:44 PM

Allah –

Thank you. Again. Second time this week something you’ve posted has made this REAL former Marine tear up a bit.

Sorry about Wade, sorry that anybody would impersonate one of my brothers – and even more sorry that any human being would be capable of so completely missing the point of your post, and of this story.

As an ACTUAL former Marine, I can guarantee you that every one of my former comrades-in-arms would love that story. And undoubtedly let out a hearty hoo-rah! … mostly to hide the the tears of pride.

Great story. Great thing to read tonight. Thank you.

And thank you most of all to God for creating women like Renee Kline. The only thing better than Marines are Marines’ wives … and she’s perfect for the part. Honor. Loyalty. Devotion.

Pretty cute, too.

Professor Blather on February 11, 2007 at 9:18 PM

Allah… Very touching story which needs to be told.

Wade… This story is not exploitative in the least. Now, had someone reported this story and tied it to a political point of view on the war, then yes, THAT would be exploitative and deplorable.

Do you see the difference, Wade?

May God richly bless this couple!

CliffHanger on February 11, 2007 at 9:28 PM

After clicking the first link, it was kind of hard to man up and click the second link. He seems like a great guy, and good for her for truly loving him and not just taking off when she saw how he came back. His attitude kinda reminds me of an actor who had served in WWII… he lost both his arms and was in a movie about how men returning from the war were coping. He refused to let his handicaps slow him down – lit his own matches, opened his own bottles and doors. Anybody know who I’m talking about?

Savage on February 11, 2007 at 9:44 PM

What bothered me was that photo. It looked like she really didn’t want to be there. I was relieved that the video link JetBoy posted shows that was definitely not the case.

One thing in the video I liked was that he said he understood if people stared at him because he would stare at someone like him. I think that’s a better attitude than saying people had problems with him because he was different.

Bless them both. If I were in her shoes, I don’t know if I would have done the same.

JimC on February 11, 2007 at 9:59 PM

Still waiting for Wade to explain his objection.

RightWinged on February 11, 2007 at 10:22 PM

What that marine doesn’t currently possess in physical beauty right now is made up tenfold in the honor that brought him that condition; as far as I’m concerned that soldier, were such a thing increased or lessened by one’s own actions, one of the most beautiful people on earth.

Prophet on February 11, 2007 at 10:24 PM

Hey Wade, sometimes people write posts or comments and other people can mis-read them and see an attack or a smear that isn’t really there.

Neither side is acting in bad faith, but just simple human misunderstandings and misinterpretations can cause bad feelings here.

I suspect that may have happened here.

Personally, I don’t think AP is trying to exploit or smear this Marine. He is acting in good faith.

Also, personally, I don’t think Wade is trying to stir up trouble for no reason. He too is acting in good faith.

The first link takes you to the Wedding photo. The second takes you to some background.

AP probably learned about this and decided that this was an inspiring story of true love triumphing over adversity.

I suspect Wade thought that when he clicked on what was billed as the “Wedding photo of the year” that was suitable for for Valentines day, he was probably expecting a photo that was more along the traditional photo. And when he saw the photo, he thought that the whole point of the post was simply to traffic in cheap tricks and shock and double takes.

So perhaps Wade thought that the photo simply being used as a “Gotcha!”

Which I don’t think is the case.

I think it was supposed to show something great.

Anyway, I’m not gonna pile onto you Wade, and say you are totally out of line. The point of this isn’t to beat up on you.

I think your heart is in the right place. You wanted to make sure that some Marine wasn’t being used as a cheap gotcha or traffic bait. And kudoos to you for that motivation.

But as I’ve explained above, I don’t think that was the point of this post.

Anyway, I wish the best for our new couple, Sergeant Tyler Ziegel and Renee Kline.

Semper Fi.

EFG on February 11, 2007 at 10:25 PM

A tough picture, and a story of incredible love.

You’re right AP: this would have been the best Valentine’s story I’ve ever heard of, I think. Consider bumping it to the top or reposting it on the 14th, okay?

Bob Owens on February 11, 2007 at 11:10 PM

The movie is The Best Years of Our Lives.

My apologies for messing up the first link.

INC on February 11, 2007 at 11:19 PM

It doesn’t appear that either DailyKos or Democrat Underground have picked up on this story yet. Not according to Google, anyway. Watch out when it does, though. I guarantee it will be disgusting and shameful (as usual).

JinxMcHue on February 11, 2007 at 11:20 PM

little everyday beauty to get one by

blatantblue on February 11, 2007 at 11:27 PM

What bothered me was that photo. It looked like she really didn’t want to be there. I was relieved that the video link JetBoy posted shows that was definitely not the case.

Yep. I thought the same thing about the photo, but the video put a completely different spin on it. I’m glad I saw that too.

lorien1973 on February 11, 2007 at 11:28 PM

…and Arkin thinks these guys are mercenaries. What a damn fool. WaPo should be hounded daily with that question until Arkin is forced out in disgrace.

…before he writes a future column on the “obscene amenities” at San Antonio.

91Veteran on February 11, 2007 at 11:35 PM

Move along folks. Wade is just sensitive about a fellow Marine who survived a terrible accident and (thankfully) can now get on with his life – and with the woman he loves, who is obviously in love with him. Just understand Wade’s projected defense of a fellow Marine. That’s all you need to know.

As for the story – it is very inspiring. Everyone who reads this should feel a great swell of pride for our folks in uniform, and for triumphs of the human spirit! Thanks Allah!

thedecider on February 12, 2007 at 12:37 AM

Wow! Inspirational doesn’t even begin to describe this amazing story.

It’s enough to bring a tear to your eye but it would tears of joy because of their love.

Yakko77 on February 12, 2007 at 12:40 AM

What bothered me was that photo. It looked like she really didn’t want to be there.

I think I can speak to that, as there could be several valid reasons for her choice to show a serious face in the photo.

1. He is as yet unable to smile, she might be sensitive about not wanting to appear happy when he cannot do likewise.

2. His condition is serious, perhaps she would fear her smile might belittle that.

There isn’t an iota of question that she wanted to be there, given all they’ve been through. If she felt so, she would have run before this point.

The wives and soon-to-be wives of military men are among the strongest humans in the world. The left, the media (as if that wasn’t the same thing), and “peaceniks” haven’t a clue how brave such women are. They deserve far more honor than they ever receive, for they all suffer hardship in staying true to their man.

AP, great story, and neither the Corps nor this family is dishonored in having it spread far and wide.

Freelancer on February 12, 2007 at 2:01 AM

I think I can speak to that, as there could be several valid reasons for her choice to show a serious face in the photo.

Or another reason could simply have been because the photographer told her not to smile.

When I got married, I was told to do all sorts of things, taking a “serious” picture was at least one of the many that were taken.

But I’m mostly saying that because of this picture, where both are smiling:

Ty Ziegel and Renee Kline on their wedding day at Metamora High School.

It appears (in that picture) that both of their impulses naturally tell them to smile when they’re picture is being taken.

Esthier on February 12, 2007 at 8:47 AM

Wade is just sensitive about a fellow Marine who survived a terrible accident and (thankfully) can now get on with his life – and with the woman he loves, who is obviously in love with him. Just understand Wade’s projected defense of a fellow Marine.

Ziegel is standing tall, proud, with his sh*t tight as a drum and the woman he loves on his arm, recording what might well be the happiest day of his life for the record. I don’t see what needs defending. He has prevailed. That photo is one of triumph over adversity.

God bless them both and may they have many, many happy years together.

Pablo on February 12, 2007 at 9:58 AM

HotAir until some recent posts has shown respect for others, in most cases. I think not in this case.

Wade on February 11, 2007 at 6:54 PM

Cry me a river, Wade. The injured Marine deserves all of our respect and heartfelt appreciation for his sacrifice. Based upon your comments on this thread, you deserve none.

fogw on February 12, 2007 at 10:08 AM

Wow!

Lawrence on February 12, 2007 at 10:10 AM

I saw this couple on TV, I can’t remember where. There was a clip of him going to the grocery store and people staring. It’s definitely real. More power to this couple for sticking together. Thank you for posting this.

WriterMom on February 12, 2007 at 10:20 AM

Correction-it was in people magazine. Debbie’s post above reminded me…that’s where there is the shot of a child staring at him in the grocery store.

WriterMom on February 12, 2007 at 10:23 AM

A nice way to start the day, thanks, Alllah.

Bob's Kid on February 12, 2007 at 10:30 AM

Exploiting? Ha. If HotAir.com were some Podunk backwater omega web site, I might agree. Hot Air doesn’t need the traffic bump.

That said, the story is most impressive and I wasn’t aware of it (what with not having watched TV or read dead tree newspapers in over a year. Neither do I subscribe to candy mags.) So thanks, AP, for the post.

GPE on February 12, 2007 at 11:00 AM

As far as shameful, I find shame in the posting by Allah in exploiting this Marines situation. Leave it for others who will post this in hopes of getting more site hits.
Wade on February 11, 2007 at 2:18 PM

Wade, I think you make an assumption of Allah’s motivation that is not true. In his posting he did not include any searchable language that would return results and thus drive the HA site meter. Instead, Allah included links to the picture and the story that passed the hits on from HA’s readership.

I just tried searching Ty and Renee Ziegel in my Google search engine and of all the hits that it returned, Hot Air was not one of them.

Thanks Allah for such a touching true love story as out Valentine’s gift.

Texas Gal on February 12, 2007 at 11:12 AM

I am rather ambivalent re this photo. On one hand, it’s incredibly moving and I think we need to face the human costs and consequences of our Iraq policy. But on the other hand, there is a feeling of invasion of privacy somehow.

I’m a lot of help….

honora on February 12, 2007 at 12:12 PM

My God, the strength she must have to be willing to sacrifice so much….I bow to her.

Tim Burton on February 12, 2007 at 1:20 PM

Now that’s what I call ROMANCE! WOW! How beautiful and inspiring. Love truely does conquer all!
The quote from his Sister is really compelling, something to the affect that the family would not have blamed Renee had she just bolted after he was injured. She never did..and now they want to be “young, cool parents”. Our Country should be so blessed that should happen.
What a WONDERFUL Valentine’s story. Thanks AP..you romantic curmudgeon! :)

labwrs on February 12, 2007 at 1:23 PM

They went on Oprah and were featured in People magazine, honora. If they minded, I doubt they would have done either.

Esthier on February 12, 2007 at 2:16 PM

This is worth a reply, most the rest not.

I’m glad you find something you feel is worthy of a response. But you still haven’t answered the question.

You claim that this site is money driven and that your blog is not, and I’ll accept that as the reasoning behind your feeling that this story is disgraceful, but you still haven’t show me why I should accept your insistence that the story is actually disgraceful and exploitive? Is it because the Marine in question is disfigured? Is disfigurement the only criteria you use to determine whether something is exploitive? That makes me wonder if you believe that any pictures of disfigured men and woman should be banned from public display as there may be a case of someone profiting from those pictures. Do you think that these types of posts should be stopped because the subject of the post happens to be disfigured in some way?

Unlike you, I would call portraying a Marine, returning to his soon to be wife and family and living as normally as could be expected after suffering a debilitating injury, a very noble and honorable tribute and not an attempt to exploit someone. People need to hear these kinds of stories as they reflect the great spirit and commitment to love and devotion most Americans hold as high esteem.

Unlike you, I don’t use the content of a post as a determination of exploitation, but rather the intent of such postings and the effect such images have upon the reader. If HotAir was using this man in an attempt to persuade the reader to accept a political or religious ideology, or using the image to enforce a particular point of view, I would call that exploitive. Since HotAir makes no such inference as to the ‘meaning’ of this story, and lets the readers make their own determination as to it’s relevance and importance, there is no exploitation.

And as far as not being welcomed at your site, what difference does that makes at all? None, in my opinion.

RedinBlueCounty on February 12, 2007 at 2:53 PM

I was in the 2nd Force Recon and who the hell are you to question my service? You got something to say about the post just say it and don’t dishonor yourself by questioning my 26 yrs of service.

As far as shameful, I find shame in the posting by Allah in exploiting this Marines situation. Leave it for others who will post this in hopes of getting more site hits.

Wade on February 11, 2007 at 2:18 PM

OK Wade, So its just proof that yes even though we honor the men and women who wear the uniform, its still holds true that every now and then a moron gets through.. youre disgraceful.

Ty Ziegel has more integrity and courage than your small mind can ever comprehend.

Im sorry Allah but I could not let this stand, Men and women like Ty should be brought to forefront of our minds at every opportunity, and should be given the respect and gratitude they so richly deserve.

Thank you for posting the links.

Viper1 on February 12, 2007 at 6:33 PM

A Real Man. A Real Woman. A Real Marriage.

God bless ‘em both.

Subsunk

Subsunk on February 12, 2007 at 10:08 PM

“Amenities”.

“Marraige is just another way men oppress women.”

Love always conquers hate.

hadsil on February 12, 2007 at 10:16 PM

Know how I know Wade was never a Marine?

Easy – if he was, he would have apologized by now.

They call it “honor.” First thing they taught us.

Professor Blather on February 12, 2007 at 10:31 PM

wades not a Moron – he just took it wrong – thats all – defending his fellow marine is a forgiveable and understandable reaction – some are rightfully defensive – and since this site deals in sarcasm at times masterfully created – he may have read some other post and then went to this and overreacted at the expression on the brides face – thats it.

Lighten up – all is forgiven

EricPWJohnson on February 12, 2007 at 11:55 PM

Allah, great job with this post. I had seen the picture but didn’t know the story. Bringing the story to light here is in no way disrespectful. I would like to have seen this on the MSM, but then there is now way they could have done it without twisting the tone to their standard moonbat angles. As for my credentials, senior Navy officer, 26 years service, fighter aviator, combat in the sandbox, still serving.
Semper America!
mach1bugs

mach1bugs on February 13, 2007 at 12:00 AM

…and Arkin thinks these guys are mercenaries. What a damn fool. WaPo should be hounded daily with that question until Arkin is forced out in disgrace.

…before he writes a future column on the “obscene amenities” at San Antonio.

91Veteran on February 11, 2007 at 11:35 PM

Arkins a fool. May these two have a wonderful marriage and a houseful of kids.

Texyank on February 13, 2007 at 12:02 AM

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