How dare you be “glad” you’re white!

Parley on February 11, 2007 at 11:20 PM

Well, Ian, she’s not so far off the mark. As a Black man going to a gas-station in Detroit, Obama could certainly get shot, kidnapped, or even beaten to death with in front of his kids at a gas station–all based on race. All of these things have happened to Blacks perpetrated by MUSLIMS at gas stations around Detroit, as I’ve written here and here. One Black man was beaten to death by a tire iron in front of his 12 year old daughter by two Muslims from Yemen at a Detroit gas station. And even though he has Muslim heritage, Obama would not be an exception at one of these “establishments.”

Debbie Schlussel on February 11, 2007 at 11:22 PM

Amazing, like any given POTUS is or was free from being a target.Drudge was burning on his ” we need to wake from our slumber” statement on the radio just now. I’m seeing Hillary/Obama vs Rudy/Condi as the cage match to watch.

bbz123 on February 11, 2007 at 11:24 PM

as a black man . . . Barack can get shot going to the gas station,” Michelle Obama said in the interview, set to air Sunday night. “You can’t make decisions based on fear and the possibility of what might happen.”

Let us put this in perspective, shall we?

Black men are many times more likely to be attacked, shot, robbed, and murdered than a white person is. Crime statistics bear this out.

In cases of interracial crime which includes blacks and whites, blacks are the perpetrator of the crime in more than 90% of the cases, whereas whites are the victims of the crime at the hands of blacks in more than 90% of the cases.

Among black victims of crime, the perpetrator of the crime is another black person in more than 90% of the time, and even as much as 95% of the time.

If Mrs. Obama was dropping a race bomb, pushing racial division, race baiting, race mongering, whatever she might have been doing, the facts state that her husband, Obama, is more likely to be the victim of a crime at the hands of a black perpetrator than from any other racial or ethnic group.

Mrs. Obama should be reprimanded on her statement and taken to task on her race mongering and attempt to incite racial discord. Someone who has the facts should confront her and Baraka Hussein Obama about that statement and the motivation behind it. She should not be given a pass on her clear attempt to spew her obviously deep seated racial animosity.

Bottom line, Mrs. Obama appears to be a racist.

If she really intended her words to mean that as a black man he is more likely to be shot while at a gas station because blacks are victims of crime in higher numbers in proportion to their population than other ethnicities, and if she meant to say that blacks are victims of crime more often at the hands of other blacks, then she could have avoided any animosity, and avoided any confusion, and avoided stirring up racially discordant feelings.

William

William2006 on February 11, 2007 at 11:33 PM

Correction to post above - re-edit.

I failed to turn off the block quote feature, thus the format of my previous post was incorrect.

I am reposting that response in its corrected form.

William

as a black man . . . Barack can get shot going to the gas station,” Michelle Obama said in the interview, set to air Sunday night. “You can’t make decisions based on fear and the possibility of what might happen.”

Let us put this in perspective, shall we?

Black men are many times more likely to be attacked, shot, robbed, and murdered than a white person is. Crime statistics bear this out.

In cases of interracial crime which includes blacks and whites, blacks are the perpetrator of the crime in more than 90% of the cases, whereas whites are the victims of the crime at the hands of blacks in more than 90% of the cases.

Among black victims of crime, the perpetrator of the crime is another black person in more than 90% of the time, and even as much as 95% of the time.

If Mrs. Obama was dropping a race bomb, pushing racial division, race baiting, race mongering, whatever she might have been doing, the facts state that her husband, Obama, is more likely to be the victim of a crime at the hands of a black perpetrator than from any other racial or ethnic group.

Mrs. Obama should be reprimanded on her statement and taken to task on her race mongering and attempt to incite racial discord. Someone who has the facts should confront her and Baraka Hussein Obama about that statement and the motivation behind it. She should not be given a pass on her clear attempt to spew her obviously deep seated racial animosity.

Bottom line, Mrs. Obama appears to be a racist.

If she really intended her words to mean that as a black man he is more likely to be shot while at a gas station because blacks are victims of crime in higher numbers in proportion to their population than other ethnicities, and if she meant to say that blacks are victims of crime more often at the hands of other blacks, then she could have avoided any animosity, and avoided any confusion, and avoided stirring up racially discordant feelings.

William

William2006 on February 11, 2007 at 11:35 PM

But I think it’s a point that is relevant to what she said. (Though I certainly do agree with some of the other points that have been made here, thus far.)

Debbie Schlussel on February 11, 2007 at 11:34 PM

I semi-agree. I think it’s a very interesting and obviously completely underreported situation… However I think in the general way Michelle Obama was talking, it’s more relevant to raise the issue about the Beltway Snipers (as one example), as she was clearly playing the “black victim” card.

RightWinged on February 11, 2007 at 11:40 PM

He just lost millions of white votes. Oh, no one will admit to it publically, but once they’re in the voting booth they will not vote for this race panderer.

jaleach on February 11, 2007 at 11:43 PM

I haven’t heard Drudge, but Beltway Snipers clicked as soon as I read the words about people getting shot going to the gas station.

INC on February 11, 2007 at 11:45 PM

True, over 15 times American citizens have been killed by illegal aliens in the past year in the United States than have troops been killed in the war on terror, all over the world.

Do you have a link for this?

lorien1973 on February 11, 2007 at 11:49 PM

Look at the “Messiahs” expression when she said that. He agrees. You’re right jaleach, but I’d add one caveat, he just lost lots of conservative votes of ALL colors. It isn’t a black/white issue…it’s a consevative/moonbat left issue.

csdeven on February 11, 2007 at 11:51 PM

“The Dixie Chicks”…. as presented by Mz. “Eternal Protester”.
PinkyBigglesworth on February 11, 2007 at 11:47 PM

Who presented them Pinky? (i didn’t see it)

forged rite on February 11, 2007 at 11:57 PM

csdeven,

:-)

INC on February 12, 2007 at 12:03 AM

Say what you want, just make sure you don’t call her articulate.

thedecider on February 12, 2007 at 12:11 AM

I thought I’d try to start a blog meme. Here goes:

Repeat after me: “Barack Quayle, Jr.”

It’s hard to get worked up over yet another gaffe from an inexperienced Illinois pol … or his wife.

Anton on February 12, 2007 at 12:11 AM

So I guess there’s no chance Obama will be taking the Bill Cosby tack by talking about the serious dysfunctions within black culture in a serious way. Looks like we’re in for something closer to Al Sharpton.

John on February 12, 2007 at 12:17 AM

Since he probably will not have to fill up ever again…no need to worry about this topic…

However, it looks like we have a pretty sane candidate, with a nutty looking and acting spouse. The thread with the “first spouse” coins comes to mind…

Never saw/heard this lady until today…and what a first impression - it’s over!

Entelechy on February 12, 2007 at 12:26 AM

Just like Kerry’s wife, it looks like Mrs. Obama is going to be a liablility to B.O. in this campaign.

Maxx on February 11, 2007 at 11:43 PM

She even looks a little tipsy there.

R D on February 12, 2007 at 12:38 AM

Then I made the mistake of wanting to see the “Police” reunited…
PinkyBigglesworth on February 11, 2007 at 11:47 PM

That says it all right there. No need to bitch about cbs.

R D on February 12, 2007 at 12:45 AM

Why are we avoiding the elephant in the room? When is someone going to mention her ’70’s’ back-combed hair style? Really…she looks like my mom - only…black. Can you honestly see this woman on the new gold coin?

thedecider on February 12, 2007 at 12:54 AM

For anyone besides me who was interested (probably no one).

forged rite on February 12, 2007 at 12:57 AM

Think you got that right.

R D on February 12, 2007 at 1:03 AM

Think you got that right.
R D on February 12, 2007 at 1:03 AM

heh. For the record, i don’t like the Dixie Chicks. It’s just interesting watching them try to transform themselves.

forged rite on February 12, 2007 at 1:11 AM

Introduced by the legendary Joan Baez, who referred to them as “three brave women,” the Dixie Chicks performed their charged “Not Ready To Make Nice.”

Wow, singing an anti-Bush song at the Grammies. I can’t even imagine the courage that must take.

B Moe on February 12, 2007 at 1:12 AM

Just like Kerry’s wife, it looks like Mrs. Obama is going to be a liablility to B.O. in this campaign.

Maxx on February 11, 2007 at 11:43 PM

Memo to expectant parents: If your last name starts with ‘O’, you will improve your child’s chance of becoming President, if you give him a first name starting with something other than ‘B’.

Kralizec on February 12, 2007 at 1:16 AM

(By the way the Dixie Chicks swept the Grammy awards and all they said was Bush from Texas embarrassed them, and they got death threats. “Not ready to make nice” is a powerful song. Bush really killed the GOP NeoCon Evangelical juggernaut in just a few years. Way to GO Duba-u.)
gmcjetpilot on February 12, 2007 at 1:09 AM

They said they were ashamed The President was from Texas and they said it in a foreign country during a time of war. They’re traitors. That’s why they won at the Grammy’s. That song and their entire album is basic adult contemporary garbage.

forged rite on February 12, 2007 at 1:20 AM

See kids if you are a drunkard till 40 you can kill brain cells but still be president if your daddy was a former US president. Doha!

I think that you are very stupid to actually say this. If you knew Bush was a drunkard, you should have voted against him. If you wanted a president that has a sweet voice as mariah carey, you should have voted kerry.

I think we should add sweet voice into criteria of becoming president.

Snoop Dogg for president. I love his voice.

Ouabam on February 12, 2007 at 1:29 AM

1965 called. They want their bouffant back. And that probably explains what she said, too. Some kind of time warp, obviously.

Laura on February 12, 2007 at 1:35 AM

Twelve Americans are murdered every day by illegal aliens, according to statistics released by Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa. If those numbers are correct, it translates to 4,380 Americans murdered annually by illegal aliens. That’s 21,900 since Sept. 11, 2001.

and here

and here…
and here…..

lorien1973 on February 11, 2007 at 11:49 PM

CharlestonCritic on February 12, 2007 at 12:09 AM

All you do is have to look….

PinkyBigglesworth on February 12, 2007 at 1:43 AM

I know it’s OT, but just pick one and enjoy……

PinkyBigglesworth on February 12, 2007 at 1:56 AM

This gaffe will likely hurt Obama more than it should. I’m going to cut his wife some slack, in spite of how racist her answer comes across. She should not have painted a picture of black victimhood, this is true, but her answer was less about that than about attempting to put the fear of assassination in perspective. She simply did it poorly.

Is America’s first black president, whomever that may be and whenever it occurs, more likely to be targeted for assassination than any given white president? Eight of the last nine presidents have been targeted, Kennedy fatally and Reagan seriously wounded. I’d add Robert Kennedy in as a probable winner in ‘68 had he not been killed.

With only LBJ in the last 44 years to not be the subject of an assassination plot, I’d say the risk cannot be honestly considered that much higher for a minority, or for a woman. Speaking of which, why is nobody asking Hillary (or Bill) about their fear of the first woman president being targeted?

Freelancer on February 12, 2007 at 2:29 AM

Nuance………….

PinkyBigglesworth on February 12, 2007 at 2:36 AM

Given that Obama lives in suburban splendor, I suppose he’s under constant threat of being gunned down by investment bankers. While getting gas. For his SUV.

spmat on February 12, 2007 at 3:24 AM

One more thing: I live in a middle-class neighborhood myself–composed of mostly black and hispanic folks. (There is at least one Korean dude down the street and one very old white man around the corner. Hey, cut me some slack for mentioning that! They stand out.)

The houses are old, but well-preserved. The streets are narrow and quiet most of the time (aside from the occassional police helicopter) and the lawns are well-manicured.

The only thing that would tell a person “what time it is” is this: almost every house–including mine–has security bars on the windows and barred doors to go along with the regular doors on each egress to an individual house.

Is Mrs. Obama telling the truth from what she knows? You make the call.

baldilocks on February 12, 2007 at 4:42 AM

“We just weren’t raised that way”

No Michelle, you were raised this way.

http://obamatruth.org/

Teddy on February 12, 2007 at 5:39 AM

baldilocks on February 12, 2007 at 4:16 AM

Those examples are pointless examples that you know about simply because they were in the news… Do I need to go to my local police department here in low crime whitey Vermont and dig out a list of random white people who’ve been shot at random places? Your logic on this is WAY off.

One more thing: I live in a middle-class neighborhood myself–composed of mostly black and hispanic folks. (There is at least one Korean dude down the street and one very old white man around the corner. Hey, cut me some slack for mentioning that! They stand out.)

The houses are old, but well-preserved. The streets are narrow and quiet most of the time (aside from the occassional police helicopter) and the lawns are well-manicured.

The only thing that would tell a person “what time it is” is this: almost every house–including mine–has security bars on the windows and barred doors to go along with the regular doors on each egress to an individual house.

Is Mrs. Obama telling the truth from what she knows? You make the call.

baldilocks on February 12, 2007 at 4:42 AM

No offense here, seriously guy, but you aren’t in a middle class neighborhood… Well, I suppose it depends on your definition of middle class… but I would be willing to bet the average person wouldn’t consider the neighborhood you describe as middle class. Even in lower income, working class neighborhoods at most you’re going to have one of those black bar/cage looking screen door things… but not bars on the windows. And whether this sounds racist or not. let’s be real, if it were a middle class neighborhood, you’d have a lot more than one old white guy in it. That is a classic sign of a run down neighborhood, one last old guy who is either just holding on to his place because he refused to be run out, and/or because he lives off of his social security and simply can’t afford to go anywhere else.

Again, I’m not trying to insult you, but your description of a “middle class” neighborhood, sounds to me like the “old” and rundown neighborhood that every city has. It’s not necessarily ghetto, but it’s where the ghetto will eventually spread, and all the middle class folks have left it and it’s the forgotten part of town. We even have it here, and Burlington, VT isn’t even close to a normal metropolitan area. We have “the old north end”… It’s actually bordering downtown, within walking distance, and is all old dumpy houses turned in to apartment buildings, most of which are Section 8. The “new north end” isn’t even that new anymore, but it’s residential nice safe neighborhoods. I just moved back up here after 5 years in Nashville. The ghetto there is all the streets off of Jefferson St. and 8th N. 8th Ave. area, etc. it sort of borders what’s called “East Nashville”, which is pretty run down in most parts. A couple streets are decent, but you’re still within walking distance of the thugs, and you can tell. The streets are dark and gloomy. The occassional crackhead is muttering to themselves on the sidewalk. Woman with crazy eyes starin’ you down at a red light when you’re heading to your friend’s bar.

RightWinged on February 12, 2007 at 6:46 AM

As our first black President, I’ll bet Bill Clinton is outraged!

BacaDog on February 12, 2007 at 7:14 AM

But the area of Chicago where Obama lives is hardly a ghetto. It’s almost an urbanized gated community, walled off from the rest of African-American areas of the city. Getting shot at the gas station is not a frequent occurence, for whites or blacks.

billy on February 12, 2007 at 7:25 AM

I completely agree billy, in fact that was a point I was making earlier… the post you’re citing was one I wrote with an entirely different point in response to someone else’s comment.

I agree, Obama is “above race”, as it were, when it comes to talking about what race gets shot more. Again, that’s ridiculous anyway, and it’s more about neighborhood.. but again, as many here thought and as Drudge kept repeating on the radio… The most famous “gas station” shootings, were mixed race (mostly white) people at the hands of black guys (who by the way turned out to be Muslims, don’t even get me started on how we didn’t throw a fit over the “middle-aged white male” criminal profiling done during that case, yet we can’t terrorist profile at airports).

Anyway billy, I just want to be clear I agree 100% with what you’re saying, which is what I was saying, and you must have misunderstood something (or I wasn’t clear) in the post you’re referring to. It’s more about lifestyle and neighborhood, than it is race. And Obama isn’t say running register at 7-11, or getting jacked walking to a ghetto home from a McDonald’s job. Or wandering down the wrong street wearing the wrong colors… Nor did he even grow up in that environment…. he was raised by white grandparents in Hawaii.

RightWinged on February 12, 2007 at 7:39 AM

Why are we avoiding the elephant in the room? When is someone going to mention her ’70’s’ back-combed hair style? Really…she looks like my mom - only…black. Can you honestly see this woman on the new gold coin?

thedecider on February 12, 2007 at 12:54 AM

That was my first thought too. What’s with the hair?

CrimsonFisted on February 12, 2007 at 8:18 AM

This is a shameless ploy to have black Americans somehow identify with Obama, many of whom don’t quite feel he is American, just as many Americans didn’t feel John Kerry was American. Orthodox Catholics didn’t quite buy into the fact that Kerry was actually Catholic, and about 80% of veterans and the military didn’t believe that Kerry was a patriotic American.

It is a way to grant Obama absolute moral authority. But from a standpoint of politics and swaying voters, this interview doesn’t seem very effective.

januarius on February 12, 2007 at 8:23 AM

Aren’t there more significant things to criticize Obama about? I don’t think she’s making a point aside from the statistic concerning black violent death rates. Whether or not she’s aware it’s from other black men (predominately) is up for debate.
But I agree that O.B. probably need not worry about getting car jacked.

SouthernDem on February 12, 2007 at 8:37 AM

If you did not see the interview you should see the whole thing. Gosh he is eloquent and articulate, and I don’t mean that in a racist or condescending way, just that our current president sounds almost like a functional illiterate sometimes. See kids if you are a drunkard till 40 you can kill brain cells but still be president if your daddy was a former US president. Doha!

gmcjetpilot on February 12, 2007 at 1:09 AM

I found a picture of gmcjetpilot:

http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/paper.asp?paper=61

“Oh Barack is so elegant and dreamy.”

januarius on February 12, 2007 at 8:43 AM

When was the last time The Manchurian Messiah even PUMPED HIS OWN GAS????
Just sayin’…

seejanemom on February 12, 2007 at 8:44 AM

From Dr. Thomas Sowell

My brother recalled his younger days down South during the Jim Crow era, when he had a job working late. After work, he had a long walk back home in the middle of the night. But, he says, “When I got to the black neighborhood, I felt safe!” That speaks volumes about what has happened since then.

Wade on February 12, 2007 at 9:05 AM

IrishEi on February 12, 2007 at 8:22 AM

I think items 1-7 and item 9 are good goals that are needed in many black communities. Item 8 is a christian value that could apply to anyone.

Items 10-12 are racist, bigoted BS that, IMHO, negates everything else on that list. I would not attend a church that held those views and was white focused, and I sure as heck am not going to support a candidate that thinks black racism and bigotry is the best way to achieve black equality. They are headed towards black supremacy.

csdeven on February 12, 2007 at 9:10 AM

zzzzzzzzz

budorob on February 12, 2007 at 9:17 AM

I hope every one dissects every word Bush says or other candidates from both parties utter.

gmcjetpilot on February 12, 2007 at 1:09 AM

You mean like when the press crucified President Bush for calling Obama articulate? For Christ’s sake you idiot, the MSM has dissected every syllable that has come out of Bush’s mouth for five years, now reaching the point where they viciously turn a respectful compliment into a racist remark.

Get a clue, will ya?

fogw on February 12, 2007 at 9:20 AM

Something the liberals have kept from the blacks for decades.
Liberals slogan: Keep them stupid, keep them on the plantation.

Could you elaborate on this point please? Is this a statement on welfare?

SouthernDem on February 12, 2007 at 9:26 AM

Guarenteed Hillary will throw on the southern accent and address a group of blacks next. She can be the next black president too, you know.

ctmom on February 12, 2007 at 9:39 AM

But I agree that O.B. probably need not worry about getting car jacked.

SouthernDem on February 12, 2007 at 8:37 AM

Good. STFU.

Jaibones on February 12, 2007 at 9:40 AM

Focus on the important details, people:

Like - who has bigger ears? Kucinich or Obama?

Discuss.

Professor Blather on February 12, 2007 at 9:47 AM

That picture of Mrs. Obama is begging for a caption. Just begging.

bloggless on February 12, 2007 at 9:58 AM