Aussie PM Howard: Vote for Obama = vote for Osama
posted at 8:17 pm on February 10, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Either he’s confused or I’m confused because he’s pointing to Obama’s home-by-next-March proposal as though it were a campaign promise and, er, the election’s not until November ‘08.
That first state dinner should be something else, though, huh?
In a strongly worded foray into US politics today, Mr Howard said an Obama victory in the presidential election would be disastrous for the war on terrorism.
“I think he’s wrong. I think that will just encourage those who want to completely destabilise and destroy Iraq, and create chaos and a victory for the terrorists to hang on and hope for an Obama victory,” Mr Howard said on Channel 9.
“If I were running al-Qaeda in Iraq, I would put a circle around March 2008 and be praying as many times as possible for a victory not only for Obama but also for the Democrats.”…
Mr Howard said the US could not win the Iraq war before March 2008, so an Obama victory would mean defeat for America.
“If America pulls out of Iraq in March 2008 it can only be in circumstances of defeat,” Mr Howard said.
“There’s no way by March 2008, which is a little over a year from now, everything will have been stabilised so that America can get out.
Exit question anticipating tomorrow’s nutroots reaction: Why does John Howard hate African-Americans?
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John Howard only hates people who think surrender is the same as peace. I’d bet dinars to donuts that he’d support any candidate who promised victory instead of defeat.
Hillary will do something horrible to Obama, that’s who he should be afraid of.
MoxArgon on February 10, 2007 at 8:25 PM
God bless John Howard. I wish that we had people of his character here. Straightforward, to the point. No bullsh*t yet still political.
Good on ya, mate.
Grantman on February 10, 2007 at 8:27 PM
There is no basis for answering that question. We do not know his background on Af-am issues, but he needs to stick in Australia.
Ouabam on February 10, 2007 at 8:27 PM
I really like that guy… By the way, some of my Aussie cousins visit Hot Air quite often (I had been sending them links).
Zorro on February 10, 2007 at 8:32 PM
Does anyone really think that Obama is even really going to get the nomination from the democrats? I really don’t. I’m sure to them, the thought of President Obama is a nice idea and people like his charisma and speaking ability, but when things start getting serious, people will find out there’s too much not to like about him. He’s our President Giuliani, in other words.
Savage on February 10, 2007 at 8:37 PM
Nothing new here. The problems in Iraq are do to Dems dividing the country and promising victory for the enemy. Terrorists repeatedly openly endorse the Dems and claim credit for their victories. Sadly the general public doesn’t understand what is going on. With every Democrat we elect, we’ve just surrendered in a battle to the enemy (this is psychological, and the war is primarily being fought in Washington). Also for every Democrat we elect, we’ve just helped AQ recruit thousands if not hundreds of thousands or millions, because they see the victory against the great satan on the horizon.
RightWinged on February 10, 2007 at 8:38 PM
Aussie .. Aussie .. Aussie .. Hoy .. Hoy .. Hoy
fogw on February 10, 2007 at 8:40 PM
You know either way al-Qaeda wants a Democrat.
JammieWearingFool on February 10, 2007 at 8:42 PM
aussie aussie aussie OY OY OY!
Defector01 on February 10, 2007 at 8:43 PM
From what my friend, that just got back from Australia, tell me race is very unimportant there. But he does live in New York which he describes as very racial.
Theworldisnotenough on February 10, 2007 at 8:49 PM
As for the “exit question”… is that a joke? I’m thinking it must be, there’s no indication that he hates African-Americans whatsoever… until the exit question that is.
Otherwise, I think he is absolutely correct and very insightful.
It stands to reason. All the terrorists, Muslim evil-doers and other muck-making Islamics worked hard for and wished for a Democrat Senate, and they got it. Now the Democrat majority, and some RINO’s, are already hard at work publicly and vehemently defaming the President and throwing monkey wrenches into anything and everything the POTUS does that has to do with Iraq.
Why wouldn’t they work hard for and wish for a Democrat President like Barack Hussein Obama? It would be the icing on the cake!
SilverStar830 on February 10, 2007 at 8:53 PM
So he got a date wrong. I still get his point, and I hope everybody does.
R D on February 10, 2007 at 9:07 PM
Hey guys, did you know that Obama’s middle name is Hussein?
spmat on February 10, 2007 at 9:35 PM
exit question answer: I don’t know if the moonbats will accuse the PM of hating blacks, but they will surely ignore the reality of the terrorists stated preference in an american president (that being a socialist dem) and focus on some PC balogna.
csdeven on February 10, 2007 at 9:51 PM
Even though PM Howard has the date wrong his reasoning is correct. I would add that the same can be said for all the Dem candidates, and a few of the Repub ones too.
still468 on February 10, 2007 at 9:54 PM
I saw at least one other commenter who didn’t “get it” either, so allow me to explain for AP:
It’s a joke, yes. But serious in that he’s mocking what wouldn’t be surprising to see happen on the nutroots side. He’s mocking what wouldn’t be surprising to see the lefties shouting.
RightWinged on February 10, 2007 at 10:08 PM
I wish George Bush would tell it like it is even half as often as Howard does. I have a lot of respect for that guy. And if the Democrats succeed in destroying America, Australia is going to look pretty appealing.
ReubenJCogburn on February 10, 2007 at 10:10 PM
Australia already looks pretty appealing.
Griz on February 10, 2007 at 10:55 PM
Howard is correct. I doubt that obama will get the dem nomination as president and he would be a mistake as vp on their ticket as well.
Highrise on February 10, 2007 at 11:13 PM
I know two minorities a black guy who lived in Australia for five years and an Indian family who has lived there 10+ and they both claim that in general Australia is much more racist than England or America.
RW Wacko on February 10, 2007 at 11:31 PM
Prime Minister John Howard didn’t get anything wrong, the article states in the third paragraph that … “Senator Obama has introduced a bill to remove US combat forces from Iraq by March 31 next year” … [2008]. Clearly that is what John Howard was referring to.
Prime Minister Howard is a strong leader and has a tendency to be plain spoken, I like that and I like John Howard. He’s a good friend to America, and America still has many strong supporters much like him throughout the world, but don’t hold your breath to hear that from the media.
The liberal media and the Democrats constantly whine about America being hated in the world, John Kerry went so far as to call us an “international pariah”, but in truth, it’s mainly the Islamic world and Europe that constantly berates us.
But can anyone tell me… when has America ever enjoyed support from either Europe or the Islamic world ?
Maxx on February 10, 2007 at 11:42 PM
Its not his race,its his muslim name thats got Howard freaked.Jihadis all over the world would claim victory that their guy is in with a middle name like Hussein.Its a stretch but hey,thats my story and I’m sticking to it.
spazzmomma on February 10, 2007 at 11:43 PM
A cold can of Foster’s lager for Mister Howard!
And throw another Obama on the barbie.
(Although I wish some members of the MSM would start asking Barak O. if his having a Muslim father -and thus being a natural-born Muslim himself, who has converted to Christianity- will cause Mohammedans world-wide to demand his death as an apostate …as they did Mr. Rahman of Afghanistan last year.)
profitsbeard on February 11, 2007 at 12:21 AM
His time in the Madrassa may be an issue too. Raised a Muslim while almost all terrorists are muslim may be a bit of a problem too.
R D on February 11, 2007 at 12:27 AM
Well put, but we must bear in mind that if you’re a:
Christian, Agnostic/Atheist, Hindu, Chinese traditionalist, Buddhist, primal-indigenous follower, African Traditional & Diasporic follower, Sikh, Juche, Spiritist, Baha’i, Jainist, Shinto, Cao Dai, Zoroastrian, Tenrikyo, Pagan, Unitarian/Universalist, Rastafarian, or a Scientologist the Koran also says that you must be converted, killed, or enslaved. So Obama is just another one of us doomed infidels, see he’s one of us.
Mojave Mark on February 11, 2007 at 12:51 AM
Unless, he’s one of them!
R D on February 11, 2007 at 12:54 AM
Also known as the Democrat Party “Victory by Loosing” strategy… and the MSM… and the Left… and Europe… and China… and Iran… and Russia… and Syria…, and Mexico…, and Canada…., and Hugo “Castro” Chavez…., Bolivia, Nicaragua, Cuba, North Korea, parts of the Phillipenes, etc., etc, …. the left and MSM has been very effective in the “Hate Bush, Hate Bush” campaing.
Too bad they did not have the foresight that just because they wanted political power, the rest of the world used their propoganda as thier own, to “Hate America, Hate America,
Tell me Ms. Pant Suit, the Swimmer, and the Mr. Flip Flop, where is the “turn off” switch now that you hold the reigns of power????????? Go ahead, flip it……. Oh, you can’t? Your short sightedness didn’t think of the consequences of your actions???????
You think Iraq is bad……. look to the horizon, better yet, look to the the southern border…….
PinkyBigglesworth on February 11, 2007 at 1:20 AM
It looks like the British suffer of self-loathing the same as our KOS “Why I hate America” genius.
Exit question – Why would BO introduce a bill to remove US combat forces from Iraq by March 31, 2008?
And, yes, Mr. Howard has cojones and he’s not a narcissist elitist.
Entelechy on February 11, 2007 at 1:30 AM
Maybe, just maybe Obama is confused? Obama proposing anything is a little, well, premature. Kind of like a young one with his first girl. Premature electionation?
R D on February 11, 2007 at 2:02 AM
I’m in Australia now and I’ll tell you that Howard’s liberal coalition is about 10 points behind Labor… the new Labor leader, Kevin Rudd, is about tied with Howard in opinion polls… in state politics, the Liberals are in opposition in each and every state… unfortunately, Howard is likely on the way out and you can guess which direction that will turn Australia.
While Howard got the date wrong, I agree with his reasoning. However, sticking more to Australian than American politics would probably be helpful to him. This statement, while it shall pass, will probably not endear him to either country’s electorate.
Christoph on February 11, 2007 at 2:06 AM
Exit question – Why would BO introduce a bill to remove US combat forces from Iraq by March 31, 2008?
Entelechy on February 11, 2007 at 1:30 AM
Heh. How can you call him B.O. when he’s so clean?
But I strongly suspect that the answer to your question is related to the primary season.
ReubenJCogburn on February 11, 2007 at 2:13 AM
Man, imagine if Howard were running things in the US. Good times…
Kevin M on February 11, 2007 at 2:40 AM
Troll, you are totally clueless. Are you high when you post? Is that it?
Janos Hunyadi on February 11, 2007 at 3:20 AM
On the plus side, at least Mark Latham isn’t running the Labor party anymore..
Reaps on February 11, 2007 at 8:16 AM
No, the nutroots will wake up, blame their tiredness on Bush, their bad attitude on Bush, their running out of toilet paper on Bush, their burning their toast on Bush, and their lousy work day on Bush…. Nothing new here folks…
PoliticallyIncorrectSandy on February 11, 2007 at 9:25 AM
Howard is doing what everyone in the western democracies should be doing: telling the Islamofascists like it is. No weakness. Full spine. We will fight to defeat you. Everywhere. Relentlessly.
It may not be a hot war, but it is a full on global war. Tossing Israel overboard won’t stop it. Leaving Iraq won’t stop it.
It stops with conversion, death, or dhimmitude. They’ve told us how many times now?
Can you nutroots not read or hear?
shaken on February 11, 2007 at 9:55 AM
“Man, imagine if Howard were running things in the US. Good times…”
Not if you are a gun owner. Howard is a “gun grabber” who makes Rudy look like a card carrying, life member of the NRA. I’m glad Mr. Howard is our ally in the GWOT, but I would rather NOT live in any country where he is the President or Prime Minister.
The Aussies are closer to the jihadist problem then we are, in that Indonesia (the most populous Islamic country) is near by. Legally “non-secular,” but probably in the process of becoming another “Islamic Republic,” Indonesia is a potential threat to Australia. And the Aussie government knows it.
Add into consideration the local jihadi Imams in Australia, and they really are the pointy end of the spear in the struggle.
Look at the geography and then consider the total population of Australia (~25 million) in comparison to that of Indonesia. Australia is a large continent, sparsely populated. If Indonesia (or either China or India) had sufficient sea-lift, Australia would be a prime target for invasion.
Australia really needs the United States as an ally. They demobilized and gutted their navy (did you know that they used to have their own aircraft carriers just 30 years ago?) and shrunk their army some years back, and now fear (rightfully) that an American retreat in southwestern Asia and the Indian Ocean will leave them vulnerable. Australia doesn’t have nuclear weapons right now (that anybody knows about), but as an industrial power with a native source of uranium, they could develop them, given time.
If we do what the Democrats want, Australia will feel abandoned, and that would be a shame as they have been loyal allies in our asian wars for 60 years. I’d also expect them to begin a crash program to develop nukes of their own out of sheer necessity.
As for the moonbats, they love Osama, er, Obama.
georgej on February 11, 2007 at 10:10 AM
Gateway Pundit provides an interesting link about this.
Link
Almost half of the countries that compromise Coalition Forces come from Eastern Europe. Not that that’s a bad thing…
Mojomatrix on February 11, 2007 at 10:43 AM
I can’t tell if Ouabama is a slow spy, or just very lonely.
He? does try so hard. Whatever he/she/it is.
shooter on February 11, 2007 at 11:11 AM
Australia seems to be our only common sense ally in the fight against the muslim world wide invasion.
Can someone tell me again why we shouldn’t be concerned that muslims are immigrating enmasse to virtually every continent on the planet?
darwin on February 11, 2007 at 11:16 AM
Wasn’t it Jon Carey who said we should listen to our allies? Maybe he’s not as dumb as we thought he was.
Tony737 on February 11, 2007 at 11:30 AM
If you think Howard hates African-Americans, you should see how much he hates African-Australians.
I’ve also heard he’s not a big fan of wallabies. Especially the dark ones.
Professor Blather on February 11, 2007 at 12:38 PM
At least he is not afraid to honestly voice his opinion. More than I can say for much of our leadership.
Emmett J. on February 11, 2007 at 2:54 PM
I love this man!
Connie on February 11, 2007 at 2:55 PM
You know the left is going to be outraged about this, but whenever it’s a foreign politician who agrees with them, like Putin, then they’re totally ok with that.
Double standards.
Iowa Voice on February 11, 2007 at 5:18 PM
Welllllllll… Bear in mind that Melbourne was nearly 30 years old when she was decommissioned. Her replacement was then retained by the Royal Navy due to the Falklands war. There’s been discussion for a while over whether to re-aquire some CVs, but they continually argue over whether to get 1 large or 2 smaller CVs.
As for Australian politics, it’s a great example of the possible existence of both right and left-wing socialist policies. Thanks to Australia’s immense natural wealth, we can still get away with being a quasi-nanny state most of the time..
Reaps on February 12, 2007 at 12:31 AM
This is NOT just an “American issue”. When a prospective US President offers Al Qaeda a schedule for victory, it is a world issue.
uptight on February 12, 2007 at 1:27 AM
Loved Obama’s response: hey Millhouse, if you’re so hot on Bush’s strategy, how about putting up more than 1500 troops?
honora on February 12, 2007 at 9:19 AM
I assume you are ok with Howard’s statements but not other foreign pols like Putin who do not agree with you. Quel double standard!!
honora on February 12, 2007 at 9:21 AM
honora, that w/b ‘quelle’ :)
On Putin, yep, ‘paragon of credibility’, I assure you, honora. Yes, I know! You can take that to the bank.
PM Howard defends his comments.
Entelechy on February 12, 2007 at 1:06 PM
How so? Standard is not translatable directly as a noun is it? My French is rusty as best, but the m is “quel” and f “quelle” or perhaps I have forgotten more than I thought!
honora on February 12, 2007 at 1:35 PM
I thought Bush looked into his soul and all was swell…No???
honora on February 12, 2007 at 1:36 PM
honora, “Quelle double norme” (unless you’re mixing the 2 languages in the same sentence). But, heh, not important.
Mr. Bush is not a good soul reader and Mr. Putin is not a good man. He had a chance to be a great leader, in the fashion of Messrs Gorbachev/Reagan, but he blew his mise en temp, and now it’s too late.
It’s that which Mr. Bush wanted to see in that soul, I believe. It wasn’t to be. The world w/b much better off, for multi-millions of people. The U.S. wanted to and would have given Russia all its support, deserved or not, for so little – the ability to pretend to help lead the world. They couldn’t even deliver on that pretense.
So, here we are…that would have been free for the Russians, with benefits galore. Now, they’re rebuilding the arms race, to pretend that they’re powerful and glorious, once again at the cost of their people, and for none other than faux glory.
Entelechy on February 12, 2007 at 2:06 PM
Merci!
honora on February 12, 2007 at 2:43 PM
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