Video: Anti-war students at UCSC cause cancellation of job fair
posted at 7:30 pm on February 7, 2007 by Ian
Capt. Brian Lionbarger recounts attacks such as shouting of obscenities, objects being thrown and slashing government tires. Last year, the student group appropriately named “Students Against War” did similar attacks and blocked recruiters from entering the campus.
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Obviously, the Administration of UCSC is too afraid of their students to impose any discipline. Under Federal law, I would simply cut off federal funding to the UC system until such time as the UCSC campus is safe for military recruiters.
MCPO Airdale on February 7, 2007 at 7:34 PM
The funding should be cut.
Wade on February 7, 2007 at 7:42 PM
Venture to add that perhaps the UCSC campus isn’t safe for normal students with tuition-paying parents. There are several ways to hit this. Inform the public, which provides the bodies called students, pressure the state legislature (low impact) and the California favorite, Voter Propositions, and then the Federal level. Pathetically, this isn’t the only state school system that needs serious reform.
naliaka on February 7, 2007 at 7:47 PM
Cut off funding to UCSC and bill them for the slashed tires and damage done to any and all property of the military.UCSC should be held liable for what happens on campus.
spazzmomma on February 7, 2007 at 7:52 PM
Dear Hot Air Constituents:
I’ll get right on that.
Best Regards,
Speaker Nancy Pelosi
Kid from Brooklyn on February 7, 2007 at 7:54 PM
Kid from Brooklyn – I believe there are all ready laws on the books concerning recruiter access to any university campus that receives federal funding.
MCPO Airdale on February 7, 2007 at 7:56 PM
Sorry – here it is: http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1141652122185
MCPO Airdale on February 7, 2007 at 7:58 PM
Seems it should be pretty easy to design a 49 star flag.
Limerick on February 7, 2007 at 8:03 PM
Maybe they will all change their minds about the military once Nancy takes them for a flight on Air Force Pelosi.
joeswampy on February 7, 2007 at 8:03 PM
“We have to ask why are they expressing that anger?” Amelie McDonald
Early indoctrination by LLL through the nihilist group think crap they been spoonfed their whole life by our “schools”. Couple that with a sence of entitlement and no respect for other people or property and it’s not to hard to figure out.
Or it could be they’re just frustrated because they can’t get laid.
lowandslow on February 7, 2007 at 8:04 PM
those wonderful tolerant super liberals
Defector01 on February 7, 2007 at 8:05 PM
The problem here is there is no real consequence for the students’ actions.
Set up an area outside for the anti-military protesters to protest in all they like. Inform the students of their own right to protest and the rights of the military recruiters to attend the job fair, and let them know that any student that takes the protest outside of the designated protest area will be expelled and possibly arrested for infringing on the rights of the military recruiters.
They get to protest, the recruiters get to recruit.
Now I’ve been to the UCSC campus many, many times, and I know this sort of thing would never happen, but it’s simple enough solution in theory, anyways.
Better than letting a bunch of fascist leftards shut down the entire job fair, in any case.
Citizen Duck on February 7, 2007 at 8:09 PM
fu** these kids. This really pisses me off.
RightWinged on February 7, 2007 at 8:11 PM
“Let’s cut the funding!!!”
I usually don’t read these types of stories because no matter how much these schools deserve to lose federal money, nothing, I repeat, nothing will be done.
The school won’t be punished, the communists who stop recruiting won’t be punished, the UC system won’t be punished. The only ones punished are those who would consider enlistment in the military.
They traitors won’t pay, so why get myself or the rest of you mad reading this. These people will never pay in this life…..
ScottG on February 7, 2007 at 8:12 PM
UCSC is a joke anyway. Aside from Stevenson college which is ok… But c’mon, they don’t give out grades, they give out written reviews. Like- “excellent job in class dude!” is the equivalent of an “A.” Used to tee me off when someone I knew would brag about getting straight “A’s” while taking 24 units at that school.
My bro went there and stopped talking during discussions in his philosophy courses because the militant lesbians would shout him down and scare him in a Rosie-esque manner.
State/federal funding should be witheld.
NTWR on February 7, 2007 at 8:12 PM
It is funny that this discussion is taking place at the same time that the discussion of the disruption of Daniel Pipes is also taking place. Does anyone see a trend? Duh…
Babs on February 7, 2007 at 8:15 PM
Discipline? Might hurt their fragile little egos, MCPO.
Besides, the administration is too chickensh$t to enforce any disciplinary action, and the kids don’t know what discipline is being that they have been coddled all of their lives.
BacaDog on February 7, 2007 at 8:18 PM
I find it interesting that the warriors they despise are the very warriors they would ask to defend them.
The Arctic Lemming gene that drives these scumbags would be laughable if it were not so dangerous.
x95b10 on February 7, 2007 at 8:23 PM
There is more to this story than was explicitly mentioned. That yellow flier sitting on the table in front of the coed protestor was for the Act Now to Stop War and End Racism (ANSWER) March on the Pentagon on March 17. ANSWER is a front group for the Stalinist Worker’s World Party. It’s likely that this protest girl is a member of ANSWER and therefore a Communist. That is the real untold story of this protest: Commies denying military recruiters of their right to free speech and their right to assemble.
Tantor on February 7, 2007 at 8:33 PM
They love to proclaim that their Right to free speech is protected by the Constitution….which is protected by the military….which is mandated to be maintained….in the Constitution.
That said, I’d prefer to see the protesters sprayed with pepper spray, as soon as they start to see and breath again hit them with a taser, as soon as they can function again, pepper spray, taser, pepper spray…..
TugboatPhil on February 7, 2007 at 8:36 PM
God help those poor misguided students/teachers. The day will come when they will truly regret their actions. There is an old saying “what goes around, comes around” and sooner the shoe will be on the other foot. They will look in the mirror and wonder what happened to civility.
Zorro on February 7, 2007 at 8:39 PM
These idiots who hate the ones who protect their lives reminds me of an interview of a school police officer who was talking about Columbine. He said that every day the kids at school would taunt him and just barrage him with all kinds of hateful behavior. During the Columbine incident, those same kids were all over this guy crying and pleading for protection. He said he had to literally peel the kids off of him so he could help. He said the ones that were the most hateful towards him before were the biggest squealers and cryers. It don’t take much for these little weasels to turn to those they hate for protection at the first sign of trouble. Libs are funny like that.
Guardian on February 7, 2007 at 8:41 PM
Oh, don’t you get it? They’re just exercising their free speech rights by making sure no one else can exercise their’s.
No. Wait. This has nothing to do with free speech. Because free expression doesn’t actually have anything to do with allowing people to voice their opinions. I think that’s the current liberal definition of free speech. Or maybe I’ve got it backwards.
All I know for sure is that it’s rather obviously not free speech unless it involves the liberal agenda. Okay? Are we clear? If you’d like to get nekkid and take a crap on the flag while making death threats against Der ChimpenHalliburtBushFurher … that’s free speech.
Allowing military recruiters to, you know, speak? Not so much. At least this is my current understanding of liberal intellectual consistency. It’s probably changed since the last time I checked.
Oh – and yeah, do we really want recruits from UC Santa Cruz? I mean, c’mon. I know that school. If you want to score good weed … that’s the place. Finding a few good men? Not so much.
Professor Blather on February 7, 2007 at 8:48 PM
P.S. Wait – here’s the punch line. All those UCSC kids will eventually graduate.
And have to find jobs. They ain’t the rich lib punks at Berkeley.
Think about it. It’s funny. If you do any hiring, watch for resumes.
In a very few short years, every one of those punks is going to run smack into reality.
Professor Blather on February 7, 2007 at 8:50 PM
“We have to ask WHY are they expressing this anger”
Bollocks. That’s like those students who were trying to poison their own teacher, and their lawyer arguing ‘First, we need to find out what this teacher did that made the girls angry enough to do this’
Retarded, cop-out argument..
Reaps on February 7, 2007 at 8:55 PM
“We have to ask WHY are they expressing this anger”
Uh, no we don’t. We know why. It’s because you’re a disgrace.
kahall on February 7, 2007 at 9:01 PM
I doubt the school administrators are scared of the students, they won’t do anything because they agree with them.
forged rite on February 7, 2007 at 9:08 PM
I don’t have to know why I’m being mugged and beaten to know that it is still against the law
RustMouse on February 7, 2007 at 9:09 PM
winner.
Citizen Duck on February 7, 2007 at 9:12 PM
We need to quit letting these people label themselves as “anti-war”. IF they were truly “anti-war” then they would also be protesting Jihadist, Iran….until then these people are just anti-American.
jp on February 7, 2007 at 9:24 PM
Let’s be honest about this, and all things liberal.
I don’t think it’s accurate to say that they are anti-American. I hear that a lot, but it’s not true. If you were to transplant them into any other society or country on this earth, they would behave the same. Why? They aren’t anti-American, their anti-anything-but-me.
unamused on February 7, 2007 at 9:40 PM
true they are very selfish.
jp on February 7, 2007 at 9:49 PM
2/07/07
To: Students Against War
I will never question your patriotism and freedom of speech and I will never cut your funding.
Sincerely,
Hillary Clinton/Barack Obama/John Edwards
Entelechy on February 7, 2007 at 9:52 PM
I’m aware of the law, Master Chief, I just want to see it enforced.
Kid from Brooklyn on February 7, 2007 at 9:56 PM
I would love to see it enforced to Kid. I don’t understand what the hell is wrong with the Bush administration and why they won’t grow a pair and cut the funding (along with a few other things but won’t get off topic). I don’t think these punks will ever grow up. I don’t know why they’re so hateful, maybe because they’re pansies? Please cut their funding ASAP!
Catie96706 on February 7, 2007 at 10:15 PM
What does it take to cut the funding? What do these anti-Americans have to do?
shooter on February 7, 2007 at 10:51 PM
Shouting, screaming and throwing stuff has become a Liberal motif. Libots throw mob hissyfits, whilst the rest of us do real reactionary stuff like…talk, vote etc.
ps. Brian Lionbarger has the best comedy name since Lawrence Eagleburger.
uptight on February 7, 2007 at 11:40 PM
The 60′s just won’t stay down. It’s like an expired sausage or something.
- The Cat
MirCat on February 7, 2007 at 11:43 PM
Fine, don’t let the recruiters on campus. In fact, don’t let any “fascists” on campus at all. No military, no cops, no one at all who’s taken an oath to protect others. Just keep ‘em all out. Especially after the riots start and the students start crying for them to come back.
corbettw on February 7, 2007 at 11:55 PM
They’re not living in the real world. I know, I was one of them once. To them “war” is as abstract a concept as “responsibility.” There’s nothing wrong with them that a night in jail with Bubba wouldn’t cure. Remember how the protests practically disappeared after Kent State? Like Podhoretz said, “. . .mugged by reality.”
smellthecoffee on February 8, 2007 at 12:40 AM
Here’s a great article that sums this up nicely.
thedecider on February 8, 2007 at 12:42 AM
I would give anything to watch liberals dagged away while being sprayed..
retired on February 8, 2007 at 1:29 AM
I think this is great.
No student at UCSC is able to attend a job fair because they keep getting cancelled.
Over time no one will want to go to UCSC because they don’t have job fairs anymore, and as a result finding a job right out of college just got a bit more difficult.
F15Mech on February 8, 2007 at 1:58 AM
“Shoot to kill” Richard J. Daley
Teddy on February 8, 2007 at 2:44 AM
Freedom of speech doesn’t include the right to deprive someone else of theirs, you administration cowards.
Why didn’t any of this human feces go over to Iraq to become human shields?
Wolfman on February 8, 2007 at 4:29 AM
CS Gas, Water Cannons, Flex Cuffs, Batons, Dogs, Jailtime.
Cut the funding. in fact stop providing any federal or state funded anything to UCSC, let them figure it all out on thier own after all they seem to have ALL the answers, what do they need anything from the rest of us for.
Viper1 on February 8, 2007 at 6:08 AM
BALLS FOLKS.
The GOP NEEDS BALLS.
Right Michelle?
seejanemom on February 8, 2007 at 9:07 AM
Guardian on February 7, 2007 at 8:41 PM
Guardian,
This is THE reason for all the Bush hate from the libs. Right after 9-11, all the lib/dems were hanging onto the President’s coat tails and screaming, “Please protect us Father Bush and Grandpa Rumsfeld.” They even came out to sing God Bless America on the Capitol steps. And now it shames them to remember that.
TugboatPhil on February 8, 2007 at 9:09 AM
Professor Blather on February 8, 2007 at 9:21 AM
Anarchy – Extreme Liberalism at work.
Why am I not surprised?
Lawrence on February 8, 2007 at 9:47 AM
If you walk on the campus (a beautiful campus) you quickly learn that; half the “students” aren’t students but wannabees, a large portion of the student body lives in caves and tent cities in the hills just above Santa Cruz, and if your a male on campus you better not be a man. A campus more wacked than the city, which is really difficult.
right2bright on February 8, 2007 at 9:50 AM
How can a body of people be “anti-war” but so obviously not anti-violence? Sorry, but firing bottles at people isn’t exactly the hallmark of pacifisim.
This is an example of our country’s educated elite? Seriously, I’m glad they are anti-war. If they were responsible for fighting for anything at all worthwhile we’d all be screwed. As long as they are in the comfy confines of such a marvelous institution it will remain easy for them to foam over about a situation that they barely understand.
Soft, quishy little kid brains. Sad, really.
Newsflash: You can’t take someone seriously who shrieks “No War” with a mouthfull of Red Bull and Fritos.
But in a way, aren’t we glad this happens? When the left is so wrong, it’s gratifying to be so right.
JunkCoast on February 8, 2007 at 10:13 AM
Assaulting a military recruiter in the performance of their duties is a federal offense, not just a local ordinance violation. So is CONSPIRACY to assault a military recruiter. These are felonies that can be investigated by the FBI and prosecuted in federal courts.
If the issue is the inability of the university to guarantee a “violence free” event, they CAN ask for police assistance from their city and county governments, or even the State of California. No doubt, they would receive whatever assistance they asked for.
Somehow I don’t think this is the “motivation” for canceling the job fairs. It’s just a convenient excuse. The “hearts and minds” of the university administration is WITH the students in this case as the libs running the university are anti-war and anti-military.
So, given the intransigence of the “protesters” and the school administration in indulging them, the best answer is for the federal government to KILL the federal student loan guarantee program for their students, KILL all federal grants to the university, and start arresting the student “leaders” for conspiracy to assault federal employees in the performance of their duties. If the school administration objects, then arrest the provost/chancellor/president, whomever, for felony obstruction of justice.
At least until such time that the university starts up the job fairs again under appropriate police protection. These job fairs ARE SUPPOSED to benefit graduating students in progressing in their chosen careers. By cancelling them because of the behavior of a few, they are denying ALL students of the opportunity to become productive members of society (and also tax-payers instead of tax-consumers).
Or, Arnold could simply order the university closed, and the property vacated of all students and faculty until the summer. Any students who refuse to leave get arrested for criminal trespass. Any students who riot get arrested for felony destruction of government property. Any students who interfere with the arrests, get arrested and charged with felony assault.
Why do this?
First, I am assuming that these students are NOT stupid. They are willfully violating the law in the belief that there are no consequences to them, personally. I would like to disabuse them of that idea.
Second, in my opinion, if you want to deter these students from violently opposing military recruitment on campus which they are empowered to do by federal law, then the way to their “hearts” and what passes for their mush-filled socialist “minds,” is to insure that when they apply for a job, they have to check the “yes” box that asks “have you ever been convicted of a felony?”
This is a CAREER KILLER for careers that require background checks (lawyer, doctor, school teacher, banker, Wall Street broker, real estate broker, etc.,) even for a job as a Wal-Mart employee.
There are NO consequences for disrupting a job fair. There ought to be, as our society is SUPPOSED to be “civil” (the behavioral meaning). As these protesters are refusing to behave civilly, and are depriving OTHERS of their right to peaceably assemble, then the issue becomes one of law enforcement. And if they still INSIST that their political views demand that they disrupt and interfere the rights of others, then they can reflect on their behavior for the rest of their lives as they sweep the floors of their local 7-11 stores at minimum wage.
Note, I am not talking about quelling protests against the government for the war or the military. I am simply suggesting how the excuse used by the university to CANCEL job fairs because the military (and the CIA) for that matter, also use them to meet their employment needs, can be vacated by a university that chooses to break the law.
georgej on February 8, 2007 at 10:20 AM
Good point, Prof. These are the types who sign up just so they can make a circus of going AWOL. Who knows what kinds of treachery they’d commit against our own country to prove their point? BTW their mascot is a Banana Slug.
Even their mascot screams “slimebag loser.”
NTWR on February 8, 2007 at 1:15 PM
OK that is funny, that describes most nutroots. Maybe change the Fritos to Tofu.
right2bright on February 8, 2007 at 5:21 PM
Why haven’t they yanked the funding yet? That move is definitely called for.
Too bad so sad for those students who will now have to search for their future off campus. This is what you can expect when you refuse to fight for your rights.
DannoJyd on February 8, 2007 at 11:06 PM