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Because the thought of democracy was appealing and they assumed that by having a democracy like us, they would have more Freedoms. They seemed to forget a little fact that in order to be a good Muslim, the basics of Democracy can not be practiced.

rayvet on February 3, 2007 at 8:23 PM

You think they’re stupid? What about the assholes who sold this nonsense to the American public?

These continued bombings really should be a hint to all of us of what I’ve suspected and said for some time. Followers of the Muslim cult are UNABLE to live without killing. That’s not an opinion, its a fact. Look at the history of the predominantly muslim nations and draw your own conclusions. We did the right thing (as I’ve said on multiple occasions) removing Saddam from power and showing all the Muslim practicing countries that if their way of life threatens us here, or threatens peaceful nations anywhere in the world, we have the ability to EASILY overthrow whatever government is behind this terrorism and effectively dismantle their army (all within days). However, for us to try to install a democracy to barbarians and primitive cultures is foolish. You’d have as much success going into a zoo and trying to teach a community of apes the concepts and practice of democracy. And yes for those of you that wonder, I consider the Muslim practicioners on about the same level of intellect and social skills as your average monkey. Only monkeys have a much higher value on life. So now the big question is what do we do now? I think, as others have suggested, we pull back to a position where we can watch these animals closely (an experiment if you will) and tell them if they develop a government that threatens others, or practices the same level of depravity that Saddam and family did, we’ll just be a helicopter distance away to bombing them back to where they are now. We can’t keep trying to convinve ourselves and the Muslim people that they are ready for democracy. They aren’t.

rayvet on February 3, 2007 at 7:19 PM

Comparing a group of a certain religion to animals…this has a really, really familiar ring to it. Let me think, it will come to me…..ties in with that idea of conducting experiments on these people if I’m not mistaken….

As with the first gulf war…the problem is lack of support. If you know that you are going to be left in the cold…you are less likely to stick your neck out. People are positioning themselves for the after not the now.

tomas on February 4, 2007 at 10:52 AM

Especially the politicians and their business interests.

They will, however, support their bottom line.

I will never understand the level of a mind who can do such a thing.
The Ugly American on February 4, 2007 at 3:10 AM

From the very beginning I have concluded that these terrorists are nothing more than gangster thugs who gain power through murder, and intimidation, while disguising themselves with piety and the words of Mohammad. They are not religious, they exploit religion, they are simply evil. Being skilled with words, they immediately accuse us of doing the very thing that they are doing. They have a clear understanding of human nature, human psychology, and are skilled at exploiting it.
In their hatred they are psychopaths. Their insanely murderous behavior demonstrates that.

How do we defeat them? We can’t negotiate with them, nor persuade them, or bribe them because that rewards their insane behavior. We can’t intimidate them, so we are left with confining them, or killing them. We can no longer ignore them. Of course this blanket conclusion doesn’t apply to every terrorist, as some can be turned around. Some are just hired hands, for sale to the highest bidder, or willing to work for anyone who can protect them and their families.
If you remember US history you also remember there were people who loved and admired Al Capone, not many, perhaps, but there were some.

Removing this threat to our civilization will take generations, which is why they begin indoctrination of their children at a very young age. They know exactly what they are doing.

This also clearly demonstrates that what the liberal democrats are doing in the US is so despicable.

We’ve got to do better for these people.

Which is why we must refute the leftist, defeatist politics of liberal democrats, and their propagandist allies in the news media.

Unfortunately, ‘venting spleen’ might feel good, but it is not persuasive.

Still, we simply cannot allow this to continue any longer. The ever-increasing number of civilian casualties is unacceptable.

We’ve got to do better for these people.

The fact that this thread has less than twenty posts and the one about Irk giving the finger on a lite brite got over two hundred baffles the mind.

Savage on February 3, 2007 at 5:19 PM

Not to worry. You will have another chance tomorrow. There will be another post, just like this one, with about the same comments, all saying about the same thing.

And another one the day after that. and the day after that.
and the day after that……

rayvet on February 3, 2007 at 7:19 PM

Not that I disagree with you (yet), but if the Muslims aren’t ready for democracy, why did 12 million of them vote?

These deaths are caused by our friends and neighboors around the world who are sitting on their hands. [tomas]

That’s a great point. I’d like to go you one better, if you don’t mind. These deaths are also caused by friends and neighbors of the Arab world. Most sit idly by watching Iraq evolve into chaos without offering a whisper of support, politically or militarily, while one in particular does all it can to aggravate the chaos and accelerate the killings.

This is a primitive culture demonstrably incapable of evolving, unwilling to unilaterally test the waters of any western-style democracy and would rather embrace a lifestyle that has been wrapped in bloodshed and turmoil for the last thousand years. Death, sadly, is a way of life for these people. I think they have a problem grasping the value of helping others, not to mention the sacrifice others are making to help them live a more civilized and purposeful existence.

Until the day comes when they take that giant step out of the stone age, I don’t see things changing one iota.

You can have an insurgency with 50 people. Crazy people…but it doesn’t take that many.

These deaths are caused by our friends and neighboors around the world who are sitting on their hands.

tomas on February 3, 2007 at 3:05 PM

this is exactly right !

The fact that this thread has less than twenty posts and the one about Irk giving the finger on a lite brite got over two hundred baffles the mind.

Yeah, and I’d be lying if I said that didn’t weigh on me when posting about this. The Iraq posts rarely draw more than 20 comments. Viral videos rarely draw fewer than 20. I do the Iraq posts anyway because it feels like we’re ignoring the subject if I don’t, even though we aren’t. There’s just not a lot to say about every new bombing except to remark upon how horrendous it is.

Allahpundit on February 3, 2007 at 5:28 PM

The GWOT is the biggest issue I have. Nothing else comes close, not imigration, not crime, not abortion or gay marriage or anything or Church vs state. Nothing. I have strong opinions on all of them, but they are all subordinate to the GWOT. I’ll make common cause with almost anyone, as long as they are tough and realistic on the GWOT.

Having said that, AP is right, there isn’t a lot to be said in the comments on a post like this, except that it is horrendous. But I went to every link AP had in his post, and I read every last word in each of those linked articles.

That’s not to say that I don’t like the other posts on other issues. And AP does have some of the best wit and dark humor on the internet. They add enormously to the value of this blog.

But if the GWOT faded from this blog, and it became just posts about Christianity and AP provoking 500 comment monster threads with his talk of a third party or poking Tom Tancredo with a sharp photo shop stick, and funny viral videos, well, in my eyes that would be a huge loss of perceived value.

Just my two cents.

Where is the giant anti-war demonstration protesting the Muslim escalation of the war in Iraq? Where are the lefty protestors tallying the count of dead killed by insurgents? Where?

Nowhere.

Tantor

Don’t you know? America and the Bush regime caused them to be fighting each other in the first place. If we would have just left Saddam alone, he would never have let that happen. His monopoly on mass murdering in Iraq kept it all nice and tidy.

The Iraq posts rarely draw more than 20 comments. Viral videos rarely draw fewer than 20. I do the Iraq posts anyway because it feels like we’re ignoring the subject if I don’t, even though we aren’t.

Allahpundit

Ugh…what would the DU’er and the Kos Kids have to say about that …

That being said, this is very sad for the innocent victims of the deranged minds that conceived this plot much less the psycho who pressed the detonator. While shopping for food, innocent people are blown up. But it will be twisted and contorted to blame anyone and everyone but the truly guilty. Motives and reasons for this psychotic action aside, I’m sad for the victims and their survivors.

The fact that this thread has less than twenty posts and the one about Irk giving the finger on a lite brite got over two hundred baffles the mind.

Yeah, and I’d be lying if I said that didn’t weigh on me when posting about this. The Iraq posts rarely draw more than 20 comments. Viral videos rarely draw fewer than 20. I do the Iraq posts anyway because it feels like we’re ignoring the subject if I don’t, even though we aren’t. There’s just not a lot to say about every new bombing except to remark upon how horrendous it is.

How dare you question my patriotism!!!

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. Machiavelli wrote a detailed road map of how to conquer. It’s brutal, but I think we would now be seeing a far different picture of Iraq than the one we currently see.

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Troy Rasmussen on February 3, 2007 at 3:00 PM

Yes, but is it any more brutal than what we are seeing now with continuing, escalated, sectarian terror attacks. Is it any more brutal than letting this conflict drag out on and on and on … and letting the people in Iraq continue to have to deal with the threat of more such violence every single day of their lives? Is it any more brutal than the much larger bloodbath that will follow if we pull out without pacifying the country?

As long as we are unwilling to apply the right medicine, the disease will get worse. At some point (if it hasn’t already), the disease will become incurable.

I wonder how the dhimmicrats will reconcile that statement with their “real” public position. I support the troops but not the mission. We all know that statement is a far more accurate depiction of the left than supporting our troops.