Lara Logan and her terrorist footage: It is too important to ignore Updates

posted at 9:44 am on January 31, 2007 by Bryan

This story bears a little more fleshing out than we were able to do in Vent. If you’re not familiar with it, here’s the gist: CBS News reporter Lara Logan, currently the network’s correspondent in Baghdad, used clips in a story about fighting on Haifa Street in Baghdad that apparently came from a video that Al Qaeda’s media arm also used. In her story she didn’t attribute the video to Al Qaeda, but described it as “gruesome pictures obtained by CBS.” They’re gruesome indeed, depicting slain Iraqi Army soldiers after the battle, and showing people walking around the room where the dead men are laying and even apparently picking through their uniforms. In looking at both the Logan report and the video that Al Qaeda released after the January 7 battle, I’ve come to the conclusion that not only did Logan use the same video that Al Qaeda used, but that she worked from the same source tape as well. That means that in all likelihood her source and the source from which Al Qaeda obtained the video (which may be someone actually in AQ or merely connected to it) are one and the same. Background on all this here and here and here. You can download the Al Qaeda video here, but be forewarned–it takes forever even on a cable hookup. And it’s very graphic. Logan’s CBS report is here. She has made a big deal out of CBS only putting it on the web and not broadcasting it on CBS News. It’s her “call for help” to her friends in the media to pressure CBS into broadcasting the story that made this whole thing gain some traction, though it’s going in a direction now that she probably didn’t anticipate.

In addition to using video that also showed up in an Al Qaeda video, Logan failed to acknowledge that Al Qaeda is claiming responsibility for the violence on Haifa Street, and she includes a soundbite from a masked man she identified as a local resident. Pace Andrew Sullivan, he may be a “resident” but the way he wears his headdress suggests that he’s really one of the insurgents/Al Qaeda fighters himself. So it’s no surprise that he took the opportunity to bash the US instead of the militias and insurgents who are trying to tear Iraq apart.

But back to the video and its origins. Below are two video stills, one from Lara Logan’s controversial report for CBS, and the other taken from a video released by the Islamic State of Iraq (al Qaeda). They show the same Iraqi Army casualty, because they’re from the same video. Not a similar video. The same video.

comparison

Here are the two segments in today’s Vent, side by side. Click to play.


After editing Vent I played around with the speeds to get the clips to match up a little more closely for this clip. The first AQ clip is running at 195% (not quite 2x) and the second clip is running at 110%. They still don’t match perfectly, either because Premiere’s speed effect is not perfectly accurate or because one or the other of the videos has been converted from one standard to another. That CBS and AQ used different compression standards for the web might explain it. CBS used Flash, while AQ prefers realPlayer. That’s just one more reason to hate both Al Qaeda and realPlayer, I guess.

I also had to convert both videos to Quicktime so I could edit them in Premiere. That might also account for the slight differences in frame rate. Or maybe I just didn’t fiddle with the speed settings long enough.

I spent a few hours with both the Logan and AQ videos last night, and after seeing both multiple times I’m dead sure that Lara Logan got a pre-release version of the AQ video. There’s no doubt at all that her source footage and Al Qaeda’s source footage are identical.

There is no way that she used footage already edited and released by Al Qaeda. She used the same source footage that Al Qaeda used.

The AQ edit slows the video down to half speed–Logan’s runs at normal speed (I sped up the AQ video in today’s Vent and the edit above to make the two match up). If she or a producer had pulled it off the web they would have been more likely to have used the speed AQ used since to them that would have been the “original.”

The CBS editor also switched up the order of bodies shown in the few seconds Logan shows in her report. There’s an edit about 6 seconds in (5 seconds and 28 frames, according to Adobe Premiere Pro) into the Logan segment, going from the face up body to one that’s face down wearing black body armor. That’s a different body lying face down that’s on an earlier part of the AQ tape. Logan’s edit gives the impression that it’s the same body that’s being turned over, but it isn’t. It’s two different bodies from different segments of the original tape. Logan’s edit doesn’t show much of this second body, but in the AQ video the camera gives us a wider view. They’re clearly two different bodies. The CBS editor shifted their positions in the timeline, which is a hint that he or she was working off an unedited source tape and not Al Qaeda’s released tape.

On the AQ tape, these two bodies are 57 seconds apart, with the second (face down) body in Logan’s report appearing first in the AQ video. Logan’s edit shows the face-up body first, followed immediately by the face-down body.

Additionally, the logo and graphics in the AQ video just aren’t there in Logan’s video and they haven’t been cropped out or covered up. You can tell it’s not a cropped shot because in both stills in the top graphic, the body is in the same place, in the same proportion to the screen and the top of the helmet is the same distance from the edge of the screen. If Logan’s shot had been cropped, everything would appear larger in her edit than it does in the AQ video. The logo and graphics are just not there in the Logan video. She had to have a version of the tape that was upstream from the graphics process, not a derivitive of the graphics and editing process. The logo and other graphics on the AQ video were overlaid during editing, much like I overlay the Hot Air bug on Vent and the clip above. So whoever Logan’s source is, they had access to the footage before it had been either edited or packaged by the AQ media arm. Logan probably got a second-generation dub of the original camera footage and edited from that. It’s hard to imagine that she had no idea where that tape came from, given the gruesome images on it and the circumstances in which it was shot–after a battle and in a room full of dead Iraqi Army troops, and showing people picking over those corpses. The people walking around and picking over the dead are probably the people who killed them.

Here’s another matching pair of segments that I didn’t use in Vent. Again, the AQ version here has been sped up to match Logan’s, which is playing at normal speed–the second time her video used a normal speed clip when AQ used the same one at half speed (the AQ editor likes to dwell on death for dramatic effect). That’s a pretty strong hint that she had an original or dub of the footage and didn’t work from that AQ release. Click to play.


Pace Andrew Sullivan, none of the people walking around are wearing military uniforms as far as I can tell, making them “civilians.”

CBS’ statement regarding Logan’s video is curious.

“I can assure you this was not from Al-Qaeda,” said [CBS News Vice President Paul] Friedman, who declined to identify the source. “Whenever we can identify the source of information or video, we want to do that,” he added. “There are some rare cases when we have to protect the source. In this case, we needed to do so, because it’s literally a matter of life and death.”

Within days of Al Qaeda releasing its video on January 7, Lara Logan used the same source video. Not the edited video, but the same source video. Therefore, the person who supplied the video to her is connected to Al Qaeda in some way. Either that person is part of AQ’s media arm or supplied the video to both AQ and Lara Logan, and to AQ first.

“The fact that same video shows up in more than one place is something that happens every day,” said CBS News spokeswoman Sandra Genelius. “We occasionally use video from an Al-Qaeda Web site and we identify it. In this case, we didn’t get it from Al-Qaeda, so we didn’t identify it as such.”

It is very unusual for the same source video to show up in Al Qaeda propaganda pieces and CBS news reports within days of each other, unattributed by the network and clearly from the same undisclosed source tape.

CBS says Logan’s video didn’t come from Al Qaeda. Perhaps it didn’t. I’d like to know how CBS knows that, though. Does it have some ironclad method for determining which of its potential stringers and sources in chaotic Baghdad are members of Al Qaeda and which ones aren’t? If CBS does have such a method in place, it should share its secret with the Iraqi police. The IP has a hard time keeping infiltrators out of its ranks, in spite of its best efforts to do so. I find it hard to believe that CBS has a better method for weeding out infiltrators. And I find it hard to believe that Lara Logan didn’t know that her source tape originated with Al Qaeda, given the nature of the fighting on Haifa Street and who would have shot such a gruesome video after killing Iraqi Army troops. Who would have been on the scene to shoot that footage and get it to Al Qaeda so quickly? Did Lara Logan or CBS ever ask that basic question?

Here’s a possibility that might explain all of this. The video was shot by one of the private security guards who work on Haifa Street. That job put him in a position to be able to film shortly after the battle was over, and his connections to AQ made him feel safe enough to do it. Logan obtained the video from him, and promised him anonymity in exchange for the tape. CBS went along with that promise. Unknown to her or CBS, the private security guard/cameraman had already supplied the tape to Al Qaeda through his connections to them. He played both sides, which is very common in Iraq right now. He sold the tape to CBS for a few bucks, gave it AQ because he’s sympathetic to them, and keeps his security job because it pays well and puts him in a position to be useful to quite a few people around that complex battlefield (evidence that there’s something to this speculation here–6th paragraph). CBS with its moral blinders on didn’t recognize and didn’t care that it was getting AQ’s seconds. They obviously failed to ask basic questions about how the cameraman was able to shoot that video shortly after a ferocious battle had taken place and before the IA could come and claim its dead. To CBS and the rest of the MSM, it’s all about the “get,” no matter what it takes to get it.

So why is this so important? Because Lara Logan passed off video that was good enough for Al Qaeda propaganda in her report, and because her source may well be in AQ himself. Her report is at most two degrees of separation from Al Qaeda propaganda. At most.

Updates: I sent Public Eye an email with a link to this post. Their “I can assure you” line won’t cut it after Rathergate. Hopefully they understand that, and why, and will address my investigation with some rigor. Even if they can refute my findings, that would be better than their asking us to just trust them. They haven’t earned that trust. Thoroughly examining how and where Logan obtained that video would go a long way to building some trust, though.

Not to be outdone, the NY Times has been caught publishing a video and photo of a US soldier dying of wounds received in battle in Iraq. That’s a clear violation of the embed rules and an egregious step beyond good sense and taste. Sweetness & Light can fill you in on the details.


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So CBS is getting video from the same source that al-Qaeda is? And this source just happened to be in a position to safely shoot the video just minutes (seconds?) after the fighting ended? But we’re supposed to believe that CBS is on our side?

Great work Bryan!

dalewalt on January 31, 2007 at 10:01 AM

That’s a lot of squeezin’ for not a whole lotta juice, guys.

Just saying.

Fred on January 31, 2007 at 10:06 AM

It really almost brings me to tears. You try so hard every day to support our men and women and you hear stuff like this. It brings you down. But, alas, they are out there everyday fighting so we must carry on.

tomas on January 31, 2007 at 10:10 AM

Great Work.. Keep it up. HotAir is awesome because of the time all of you put in.

GoodBoy on January 31, 2007 at 10:11 AM

Mainstream Propaganda Media…

If it bleeds it leads and if it doesn’t bleed on it’s own make it bleed. Blood sells, sell blood sell…SELL as in business, as in a product, as in marketing…as in I am ranting sorry…

What do you expect from MSM/MPM? I expect nothing but illustration after illustration of how corrupt MSM/MPM has become.

GoingThere on January 31, 2007 at 10:13 AM

Is anyone shocked at yet another example of the left wing-terrorist alliance?

Valiant on January 31, 2007 at 10:15 AM

CBS just needs to come out and say it. “We are reporters first, Americans second (or third or whatever).”

This way, the troops can determine if they want imbeds in their combat units, and we Americans can determine if we want to support CBS by watching their news.

But CBS wants it both ways, much like CNN when they aired AQ propaganda. They hide behind the journalistic integrity banner to get cover for not supporting the country who invented and defends freedom of the press, then squeal like stuck pigs when we question their priorities and patriotism.

Matticus Finch on January 31, 2007 at 10:21 AM

CBS just needs to come out and say it. “We are reporters first, Americans second (or third or whatever).”

Didn’t news organizations already say that when they stopped wearing american flag pins on their suits after 9/11, because it would give off too much of a “pro-america” point of view? I think the US news goes out of their way to paint an anti-american picture.

lorien1973 on January 31, 2007 at 10:24 AM

Well done Bryan. Well done.

Griz on January 31, 2007 at 10:26 AM

Great work. More, faster!

naliaka on January 31, 2007 at 10:36 AM

I’d like to think it was a private security contractor. But we’ve seen Al Queda use video like this for training. I’m thinking that it was shot by Al Queda Haifa Street fighter who then sold it to CBS to make some bucks and get AQ propaganda on the air in the US. The reason I don’t think it was a “private contractor” is that Logan interviews “regular Joe” from Haifa. Perhaps this guy is the one who handed over the video, then did a little interview to push his story that’s “too important to ignore.”

It’s striking in its contrast to the work you & Michelle did in Iraq.

Nethicus on January 31, 2007 at 10:37 AM

Fred, you’re wrong. This is juicy.

Blaise on January 31, 2007 at 10:40 AM

That CBS and AQ used different compression standards for the web might explain it. CBS used Flash, while AQ prefers realPlayer.

This statement is so surreal….

spmat on January 31, 2007 at 10:41 AM

He sold the tape to CBS for a few bucks, gave it AQ because he’s sympathetic to them, and keeps his security job…

This makes me wonder to what extent the good guys are being set up by “entrepeneurs” in the video/photo business. To what extent would the violence there decrease if the MSM stopped paying for it?

RedWinged Blackbird on January 31, 2007 at 10:49 AM

I don’t know what everybody’s so excited about–CBS got the video from a respected member of the Iraqi police department, Captain Jamil Hussein.

But if CBS is running footage that’s basically terrorist propaganda, all it means is that they didn’t want to let CNN have a monopoly. The enemedia strikes again.

ReubenJCogburn on January 31, 2007 at 10:50 AM

He played both sides

How do you get there? Even CBS wouldn’t claim they are on a “side” and al Qaeda would know who this hypothetical civilian with a camera was because they met him first, and they would kill him if he supplied the “other side” with anything useful to them.

You can be sure that CBS aired this with al Qaeda’s blessing.

Perchant on January 31, 2007 at 10:55 AM

This Be-atch is just another Al Qaeda shill like the rest of the lefty media!

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on January 31, 2007 at 10:57 AM

This is insane.

Esthier on January 31, 2007 at 11:03 AM

She’s a tool and a fool!

budugirl on January 31, 2007 at 11:05 AM

Wow.

see-dubya on January 31, 2007 at 11:14 AM

I don’t understand why the MSM continues to run propaganda from our country’s enemies. What are they trying to prove? If we do not prevail, there will be no MSM.

d1carter on January 31, 2007 at 11:19 AM

Great post Bryan! We need more objective and detailed analysis of the MSM and their reporting.

The more well informed we can be about what the MSM is doing the more we will understand how they are attempting to mold public opinion.

It appears that many assume good faith on the part of the MSM and that they are intersted primarily in “reporting” and profit. I believe that, for almost all of the MSM beyond Fox, foremost in their minds is their political agenda, balanced with the realities of distribution and profit. Integrity in their “reporting” only comes into consideration as it affects their credibility.

Bravo Bryan! Your work is important and appreciated.

omegaram on January 31, 2007 at 11:50 AM

Well the good news is the video is bing hawked by CBS. The bad news is now that Bryan and Michelle are publicizing it on their web sites the 99.9% of the people who would have never been aware of this now know.
Sometimes silence is golden. Always consider the source. If it is on CBS or MSNBC it is a safe bet that unless a tin foil hat is a required part of your wardrobe you are not aware of anything they say.
What I am saying is CBS News has ratings somewhere below the bow of the Titanic and by giving them this venue to promote what may indeed be propaganda you may inadverently also give them a little up tick in ratings or what Perky Katie calls job security.

LakeRuins on January 31, 2007 at 11:54 AM

I agree with see-dubya, “Wow.” You’d think we’d be desensitized to the level of de facto collaboration that goes on between the MSM and jihadists, but this is a new low.

Bravo to HA for this coverage.

Enrique on January 31, 2007 at 11:55 AM

That’s just one more reason to hate both Al Qaeda and realPlayer, I guess.

Priceless…

mojowire on January 31, 2007 at 11:57 AM

The MSM view us as neanderthals and standing in the way of the next great social advancement (ala democracy, womans rights, civil rights, etc). A one world socialist vision where all countries are equal in power and influence. But like all socialist ideas it looks good in theory but in practice is always an unmitigated disaster. Grasping that reality is so easy, a neanderthal can do it. And we do. *Grunt grunt grunt*

csdeven on January 31, 2007 at 12:02 PM

If you “lie” down with dogs, don’t be surprised if you get fleas……….

Using our enemy’s propaganda to subvert our military and commander in cheif, to demoralize the citizens of this country to push for withdrawl and ultimate defeat…….

When in HELL are we going to put a stop to this!!!

PinkyBigglesworth on January 31, 2007 at 12:13 PM

Why was Logan so exercised over the video & report being back-paged by CBS?

How is it that CBS is certain about the source NOT being AQ?

Why is identification of the source a matter of life & death?

ANSWER: Because Lara Logan’s crew shot the video and provided the source tape to AQ.

dung.

Moose Dung on January 31, 2007 at 12:15 PM

Its the same deal as rueters and Ap News. Just report that facts and state the truth that the enemy is using propaganda and that is what you are passing on.

I noticed now that AP New is going the rueters route and when the print a story about casaulties in Iraq they state “Police said”

24 dead POLICE SAID, 15 killed in Baghdad POLICE SAID.

Not names just vague references to unnamed police. Same trick Rueters has been pulling for years.

Jamil Hussien is alive and well and passing on news only these organization wont let you catch them sneaking propaganda in by nailing down their sources. Now it seems CBS has learned that trick as well.

William Amos on January 31, 2007 at 12:18 PM

V-chip…..
CBS…..blocked
Haven’t watched it since Ratherblather.

Limerick on January 31, 2007 at 12:22 PM

Okay show of hands. How many people who saw the name Logan immediately thought it was an obscure reference to President Logan a character from “24″?

LakeRuins on January 31, 2007 at 12:27 PM

I just came across a website that tracks liberal media bias, CyberAlert,

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.mediaresearch.org/stillshots/2006/mar/2006-03-29-CBSENLogan.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberalerts/2006/cyb20060330.asp&h=180&w=240&sz=6&hl=en&start=20&tbnid=ViX-qhtZd7fHYM:&tbnh=83&tbnw=110&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dlara%2Blogan%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26rls%3DGGLJ,GGLJ:2006-31,GGLJ:en

and they have reference to Lara Logan debunking claims innocent worshipers were killed. It would appear the water is a bit more muddy that intially percieved.

“Advocacy Journalism” seems to be a term described for the type of bias we are referring to.

omegaram on January 31, 2007 at 12:41 PM

Our soldiers can take care of Columns 1-4, and we’ll do the rest.

mymanpotsandpans on January 31, 2007 at 1:14 PM

Logan should have her mouth swabbed out. That way we can get a DNA sample of her Al Qaeda connection.

georgej on January 31, 2007 at 1:22 PM

This is another blatant example of Drive-By Media whoring itself for ratings no matter the cost.

Is it any wonder so many good Americans believe the way they do about our struggle in Iraq, and the Civilizational War that Big Media doesn’t seem to want to acknowledge?

How in God’s Name do these ‘journalists’ (I use the term VERY loosely) expect to achieve credible coverage when they rely on anybody with ‘al-’ in their name for their source information? The answer is: They obviously don’t give a damn, or are trying to sabotage our efforts.

Despicable.

hillbillyjim on January 31, 2007 at 1:25 PM

CBS used Flash, while AQ prefers realPlayer. That’s just one more reason to hate both Al Qaeda and realPlayer, I guess.

Bur-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-rn!

I’m sure Rob Glaser at Real is sitting in his waterfront multimillion-dollar penthouse office in Seattle right now, thrilled about the free publicity for his product and that realPlayer has contributed in its own special way to defeating the evil Republicans’ Christian crusader agenda.

ScottMcC on January 31, 2007 at 1:25 PM

That Update makes me so damn mad. F*cking NYT.

ReubenJCogburn on January 31, 2007 at 1:33 PM

Honestly, I don’t think there is some nefarious plot here. I’ll hazard a guess and say that CBS has no idea that AQ has an active website. Even, supposing they have figured out how to use the Intertubes for research, they would not have checked various jihadi websites to make sure that they weren’t infringing on copyrights. Now, supposing that if they had researched and found that AQ was using the same footage for propaganda purposes, is there some reason why CBS should not be using that footage?

There is probably a discussion to be had regarding how the footage was used, or even the underlying slant of the story but actual use of footage simply is a non starter.

Krydor on January 31, 2007 at 1:35 PM

Good work Bryan.

There continue to be too many cases of American media outlets presenting stories that have the clear intention of making America look bad. Why is that more important than seeking a complete set of facts surrouding something like who gave them footage and how it was obtained? How much footage does our military provide to the media which they decide to shelve or edit to bits in an attempt to spin even that against us?

But don’t accuse them of bias.

Freelancer on January 31, 2007 at 1:36 PM

It’s the source, Krydor. How did Logan get a master or dubmaster of the same source tape AQ used within days of AQ using it? That’s the question. Secondarily, what did CBS know and when did they know it, about Logan’s tape? It’s CBS assuring us based solely on its word that it didn’t come from AQ. How does CBS know that?

Freelancer, the entire MSM can get video from the DoD’s dvids site anytime it wants. There are hours of great video there, including combat footage from Haifa Street battles. Some local stations get video from there and use it, but you hardly ever see any of it in the MSM. Yet we see this AQ video in Logan’s report. Makes you go hmm, at the very least.

Bryan on January 31, 2007 at 1:43 PM

This is truly CBS’s version of “COURAGE”

tomas on January 31, 2007 at 1:53 PM

Some local stations get video from there and use it, but you hardly ever see any of it in the MSM. Yet we see this AQ video in Logan’s report. Makes you go hmm, at the very least.

Bryan on January 31, 2007 at 1:43 PM

Makes me want to ‘go’ more than hmm, for doggone real. But I hold dear the privilege to comment here, so I’ll bite my tongue.

I truly believe that some media outlets’ behavior (NYT, for example) borders on Treason.

hillbillyjim on January 31, 2007 at 2:10 PM

Whoever’s in charge of the press over there should seriously consider kicking Logan and CBS out of Iraq

Iblis on January 31, 2007 at 2:26 PM

Someday, I hope to watch the uploaded video of Pinch Sulzbergers execution for treason.

georgej on January 31, 2007 at 2:30 PM

Not to be outdone, the NY Times has been caught publishing a video and photo of a US soldier dying of wounds received in battle in Iraq.

My only wish is that I was buying something from the NYT so I could boycott them. Is there anything we can do to stop these people?

Short of burning down their building, that is.

JasonG on January 31, 2007 at 2:41 PM

Ok.

We now have CBS Videogate.

CBS – la Vida Loco!

Throw in stupidity, too.

Kokonut on January 31, 2007 at 2:43 PM

But like all socialist ideas it looks good in theory but in practice is always an unmitigated disaster. Grasping that reality is so easy, a neanderthal can do it. And we do. *Grunt grunt grunt*

csdeven

I’ll have the Roast Duck with Mango Salsa.

The Monster on January 31, 2007 at 2:47 PM

Someday, I hope to watch the uploaded video of Pinch Sulzbergers execution for treason.

georgej

It would have happened by now under any wartime president prior to LBJ. I don’t think we can win a war unless it’s against a Christian country like, say, Serbia or Vatican City. Something the Democrats and their media can get behind and wouldn’t set out to undermine.

Perchant on January 31, 2007 at 3:07 PM

Bryan,

It’s the source, Krydor. How did Logan get a master or dubmaster of the same source tape AQ used within days of AQ using it? That’s the question. Secondarily, what did CBS know and when did they know it, about Logan’s tape? It’s CBS assuring us based solely on its word that it didn’t come from AQ. How does CBS know that?

It’s a fairly simple process for news departments to get “extreme” video. Honestly, and I’ve been a part of this more than once: something happens, some guy with a camcorder makes a phone call, the station buys the footage (usually for a shirt with the station logo). On occasion, that footage goes national/international. How much of a background check is done? Little to none.

CBS cannot state, with any degree of certainty, that the source was not from AQ. Until this started making the rounds, I’ll warrant that CBS had no idea where this footage first turned up or what it was being used for.

The footage was real. Whatever issues one may have (and I do) with the editing of the footage, it does show the aftermath of a real event. There are real issues, as well, regarding how they got the footage. However, we will never know the original source, in spite of some good suspicions as to that source.

This is an exercise in accountability, but little else. If they didn’t wake up after Dateline’s expose on exploding gas tanks, 60 Minutes magically accelerating Audis, the National Guard memos then they certainly won’t change for something that is a depiction of a real event.

Krydor on January 31, 2007 at 3:11 PM

Updates: I sent Public Eye an email with a link to this post. Their “I can assure you” line won’t cut it after Rathergate. Hopefully they understand that, and why, and will address my investigation with some rigor. Even if they can refute my findings, that would be better than their asking us to just trust them. They haven’t earned that trust. Thoroughly examining how and where Logan obtained that video would go a long way to building some trust, though.

Do we have a specific email address, so we can all put the heat on them about this?

RightWinged on January 31, 2007 at 3:12 PM

JasonG wrote:

“My only wish is that I was buying something from the NYT so I could boycott them. Is there anything we can do to stop these people?”

The AP reports: “NEW YORK (AP) — The New York Times Co. posted a $648 million loss for the fourth quarter”

Keep up the good work!

“Short of burning down their building, that is.”

No need to take the Ann Coulter approach

georgej on January 31, 2007 at 3:18 PM

Remember Scott Pelle’s interview with Bremmer?

“Uh, we report”. F*cking a**holes!!!

We’ll know soon enough what the situation is:

1) Logan will be dead soon by the hands of AQ
2) She’ll get out quick enough so that doesn’t happen
3) She’ll stay and be quite safe.

If it’s the latter then we know CBS knows exactly where the video came from and Logan’s being protected by AQ.

Editor on January 31, 2007 at 3:20 PM

In response to the update regarding the NYT photos/vid they should be just shut down…period.

The first thing I would do as a parent is corner the SOB with the camera and ask him ‘Instead of clicking the shutter why didn’t you try to stop the bleeding?’. Then I would attempt to introduce him to God.

Limerick on January 31, 2007 at 3:59 PM

That’s just one more reason to hate both Al Qaeda and realPlayer, I guess.

Please post the “cease and desist” order when you receive it. :-)

sweetlipsbutterhoney on January 31, 2007 at 4:20 PM

georgej, thanks for reminding me – I saw this morning. Sweet!

Entelechy on January 31, 2007 at 4:22 PM

You guys and your conspiracy theories, don’t you know that she got that footage from the Ass. Press, which got it from Rueters, which bought from there embedded photographer..I forgot his name but he wears a green helmet.

right2bright on January 31, 2007 at 4:28 PM

I’ll have the Roast Duck with Mango Salsa.

I don’t have much of an appitite. Thank you. (glare)

csdeven on January 31, 2007 at 4:53 PM

Krydor;

I think the key point is that of all the footage available, the footage CBS wants to show is the same that Al Qaeda wants to show. Does that not say something about the world view inside CBS?

Annoying Old Guy on January 31, 2007 at 5:18 PM

Hey, Bryan… regarding this passage:

“download the Al Qaeda video here”

I may be missing something, but I can’t read Arabic, and doing the mouseovers, I can’t find “view this page in English” link. So, I’m unsure as to where to download the video.

Any suggestions?

MsUnderestimated on January 31, 2007 at 8:25 PM

Ms U, when you get to that page scroll down a bit. You’ll see a whole bunch of links in blue. The first one is the one I used to get the video.

Bryan on January 31, 2007 at 8:33 PM

Hmm, I was going to suggest using Babelfish‘s web page translator, but apparently they don’t translate Arabic. It’s darn handy otherwise, though–for anyone who isn’t familiar with it–although the translations to English range from awkward to downright comical.

ReubenJCogburn on January 31, 2007 at 9:15 PM

Thanks, Bryan… you’ve always been a top-notch guy. I love your work, and respect 150% what you and Michelle do.

Carry on, my friend… PLEASE carry on.

Kind regards,
Ms.U

MsUnderestimated on January 31, 2007 at 9:50 PM

They still don’t match perfectly, either because Premiere’s speed effect is not perfectly accurate or because one or the other of the videos has been converted from one standard to another.

Nice work, but you gotta bite the bullet and go with Final Cut Pro (or at least Final Cut Express).

Lazarus on January 31, 2007 at 11:55 PM

Eh, I’m not a fan of Final Cut. I’ve used it and Avid XPress and Premiere (I have both Avid and Premiere Pro on this machine right now). For what I’m doing, Premiere is the best around right now.

Bryan on February 1, 2007 at 12:02 AM

Memo to Lara Logan: One man’s “It” girl is another man’s **it girl.

Or maybe I’m picking on you just cus’ you’re a girl! Right Katie?

Teddy on February 1, 2007 at 12:47 AM

I think the key point is that of all the footage available, the footage CBS wants to show is the same that Al Qaeda wants to show. Does that not say something about the world view inside CBS?

Old Guy,

Actually, no it doesn’t. That two editors had similar shot selection means pretty much nothing.

I’m not saying that CBS isn’t a poorly run and overtly biased news organization. Their track record speaks for itself. What I’m saying is that one cannot draw that conclusion based on this tape.

Krydor on February 1, 2007 at 10:24 AM

This is nothing new for CBS. They use to show Vietnam battlefield death too, remember. The ‘press’ has been doing this since before America was founded. Not that it is something that should be allowed, but there is nothing new in any of this. I wonder of CBS would like to see the return of the ‘fairness doctrine’ and be forced to show a equal or greater number of dead insurgents on the daily broadcasts? Some how I don’t think they would like that at all.

As others have pointed out, this is just “Advocacy Journalism” on the part of this reporter and her employers. That’s why you will never see ANY footage of insurgents losing battles or hear any casualty count of the insurgents. CBS doesn’t want the insurgents to look bad, now do they? The majority of the ‘press’ and MSM have declared this another Vietnam and they want “Bush’s War’ to end in failure.

This is a reliable combat tactic, using negative images with the intent of ‘losing the hearts and minds’ of the public. Let’s persuade the public that this war is a failure by showing only American and Iraqi losses and not the losses of the enemy. That’s the best way to influence public opinion to their favor, isn’t that right? After all, CBS and others have a proven track record of swaying public support with negative reports and images. They are following the Vietnam Reporters handbook page by page.

RedinBlueCounty on February 1, 2007 at 10:37 AM

HotAir is to CBS as Spider-Man is to J. Jonah Jameson.

Black Adam on February 1, 2007 at 11:18 AM