Somalia: the limits of multilateralism
posted at 3:17 pm on January 30, 2007 by Bryan
The member states of the African Union can’t find enough troops to send as a peacekeeping force to Somalia.
As African leaders met for the second and last day of the African Union (AU) Summit Tuesday in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, there were many questions about unfinished business and what they have actually accomplished.
Chief among them is the shaky AU peacekeeping force planned for war-ravaged Somalia. While a few African countries – Uganda, Nigeria, and Malawi – have pledged 2,500 of the 8,000 requested troops, most remain silent.
South Africa, a regional power normally willing and able to send peacekeepers, gave a definite “no” this week, citing its own overstretched military, the lack of Western donor support, and the lack of a workable peace plan.
I’m not posting this to rebuke any of the AU’s member states. The fact is, they don’t have the resources on hand to pacify Somalia. They’re mostly poor countries, and many of them have their own internal security problems to deal with. And even if they could muster the 8,000 troops the AU wants, it’s unlikely that that would be enough. The US sent in 25,000 troops in 1993 along with additional troops from the UN, and that wasn’t enough to pacify Somalia. The humanitarian mission there soon morphed into a combat mission, and then once that turned violent America decided enough was enough and pulled out. Somalia was a basket case when we went in and a Bin Laden rallying cry when we left. The 8,000 troops that the AU seeks probably aren’t even enough to keep a lid on Mogadishu, population about 525,000.
I titled this post “The limits of multilateralism,” but a better title might be “The limits of order against chaos.” The AU doesn’t have the troops to commit to Somalia. We’re not going to do it. Ethiopia, wisely, won’t stay there. The UN’s major member states also won’t send troops, either because they don’t want to or more likely because they can’t. And they’re all thinking of Somalia as a “peacekeeping” operation, when inserting troops would actually be more like a “peacemaking” operation. You can’t keep a peace that isn’t there yet. You have to carve that peace out of the violence first, and the only way to do that is to put combat troops on the ground with orders and the capabilities to kill the bad guys. The world lacks the will for that.
And Somalia is just one of Africa’s crises. There’s also the more trendy one in Darfur that, like Somalia, bears Islamist features. Darfur is arguably less chaotic than Somalia since it’s a bit easier there to sort out the forces of genocide (Sudan’s Muslims leavened by Arab fighters) from the victims (Sudan’s Christians and animists). Somalia is just the end state of human depravity left to run for a decade or so; Darfur is a real genocidal war. Darfur is also probably more problematic: Doing anything about it would entail engaging in another fight against Islamists, which would be spun by them as another war against Islam itself. Al Qaeda’s recruiting rebounds, the hard left sides with them again, and it’s Iraq Part Deux. We don’t have the troops to fight that battle right now, not because we’re in Iraq and shouldn’t be, but because we don’t have a large enough military to fight the war we’re in at all. These core-gap connection operations take a lot of manpower. China can probably muster enough, but who wants them in charge of peacekeeping? India probably can too, but neither it nor China has the logistics capabilities to handle operations so far from home. Only the US military has that capability, which gets us right back to where we started: We’re not deploying to Somalia or Darfur. Out of oil concerns, China wouldn’t deploy to fight in Darfur anyway, except on the side of the government that’s aiding the genocide. China has the manpower for lots of things, but it usually lands on the wrong side of the issue at hand.
Where am I going with this? Nowhere in particular. Somalia is just an example of the way the world is right now. Darfur is too, in a slightly different way. Somalia is less about intentionally inflicted chaos than Darfur, but in the end the victims are just as dead in either place and those of us outside the kill zones are just as impotent to stop any of it. The forces of chaos seem to be gaining the upper hand against civilization in these faraway places. The rest of the world lacks the manpower to defend itself and does not yet understand how close the danger truly is.
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“Me, as your CiC” Obama, the Ox of the World, just said.
Laughing at you, America — the World
Schadenfreude on May 16, 2013 at 1:18 PM
Never fear! I am sure the Death Panels will run on time. Forward!
Lily on May 16, 2013 at 1:18 PM
The Three Monkeys of Oblivion:
Obama
Holder
Hillary
…otherwise, prove that they are just incompetent.
It’s one or the other.
Shame on America for having freely selected this.
Schadenfreude on May 16, 2013 at 1:19 PM
Wooops!!!
don’t blame President Passerby though. Or his sh!t for brains AG.
ted c on May 16, 2013 at 1:19 PM
Give them some credit here. The witness protection program works so well that the government can’t even find them.
Mark1971 on May 16, 2013 at 1:20 PM
How the Hell did they get into the program??? What did they do to deserve what is basically an exoneration for their previous activities?
E9RET on May 16, 2013 at 1:20 PM
they know right where all of us live though.
ted c on May 16, 2013 at 1:20 PM
OT. Watching the presser and seeing absolute red. The POS just supported Holder’s wiretap of AP because there were Americans at risk.
What a pity for the 4 Americans killed in Benghazi that he didn’t worry about putting them at risk when he refused to send assistance and told the military to stand down.
I can’t stand it!
Talking about protecting HIS troops in Afghanistan, in outposts around the world. But what about Benghazi? Why no protection there?
One reporter just asked what the POS thought about comparisons in the public now between him and Nixon.
I’m gonna have to turn this sh!t off before my stress level goes through the roof.
wyntre9 on May 16, 2013 at 1:20 PM
Well Mary Shannon and Marshall Mann would have never let that happen…
dpduq on May 16, 2013 at 1:20 PM
“My concern is to find and to fix problems in government,” said Obama moments ago.
Added, “uhhh…”
Lourdes on May 16, 2013 at 1:20 PM
The SCOAMF is back to full blown narcissistic “I” mode.
Response to question about Holder had at least 15 “I”‘s in it,
PolAgnostic on May 16, 2013 at 1:21 PM
D’oh!
Philly on May 16, 2013 at 1:21 PM
Again, terrorists are NOT a threat to democratic power, Tea Partiers are. Thusly, they build databases of their secret thoughts, meetings, donors, contacts, request a blood sample, yearbook picture, lock of hair and a firstborn in order to get 501c status……
ted c on May 16, 2013 at 1:21 PM
OT
Too bad he didn’t join his brother.
Schadenfreude on May 16, 2013 at 1:22 PM
I love that pic.
Shaden. Makes a bad day….just a little better.
Thank You Ed.
FlaMurph on May 16, 2013 at 1:22 PM
My local McDonalds is staffed with more competence than the federal government, and is better for my health.
beatcanvas on May 16, 2013 at 1:22 PM
And don’t forget “Stan.”
JFKY on May 16, 2013 at 1:22 PM
DITTO.
I can’t stand to hear him refer to “(his) troops” and “(his) intelligence workers around the world…”
He’s a monstrous egomaniac. Not Presidential, not nearly Presidential.
Lourdes on May 16, 2013 at 1:22 PM
Not to worry, they’ll come back, not as ‘witnesses’ I mean, but more like pyrotehcnics ‘experts’ of sorts…never underestimate the stupidity of the US agencies in charge with keeping the land safe…
jimver on May 16, 2013 at 1:22 PM
What better way to show yourself as a fixer than to preside over an utter failure. Look at it this way, son, the only way you can go is up, right?//
ted c on May 16, 2013 at 1:22 PM
My fear is they’ll turn up at an embassy somewhere and demand transport “home.” And we’ll give it to them.
JFKY on May 16, 2013 at 1:23 PM
Witness Protection Program, huh? Nice place for a sleeper cell to hide. I wonder how many mo…. oh, never mind.
a capella on May 16, 2013 at 1:23 PM
….and by Americans, he meant American Democrats. The threat? Tea Partiers.
ted c on May 16, 2013 at 1:23 PM
Run a court system and defend us, you morons. Yeah, sure, a few other things. But get the hell out of healthcare, and get back to the jobs that governments are supposed to do.
BuckeyeSam on May 16, 2013 at 1:23 PM
This would make a good episode of Justified. Art sends Raylan to find the US Marshal Service’s missing terrorists.
Mark1971 on May 16, 2013 at 1:24 PM
yeah, that census form was, what, twenty-five pages long of intrusive questions with all recipients required by law to sign and return?
Lourdes on May 16, 2013 at 1:24 PM
Schad, remember this?
Brat on May 16, 2013 at 1:24 PM
DITTO
and
DITTO.
Lourdes on May 16, 2013 at 1:25 PM
Was Raylan Givens responsible for these guys? I bet not, unless they’re missing because they’re dead.
BuckeyeSam on May 16, 2013 at 1:26 PM
Was he asked about justification for tapping the House cloakroom phones?
a capella on May 16, 2013 at 1:26 PM
No biggie. They probably moved in with relatives somewhere, collecting unemployment, getting their meals with EBTs, driving leased BMWs, Facebooking on their iPads and texting friends and families on their Obamaphones.
Perfectly harmless. Nothing to fret.
hawkeye54 on May 16, 2013 at 1:26 PM
…and the Marshall service probably stocked their kitchen with pressure cookers.
E9RET on May 16, 2013 at 1:27 PM
Maybe they got under Boyd Crowder’s skin.
BuckeyeSam on May 16, 2013 at 1:27 PM
I gotta ask, where is that pic from?
Ukiah on May 16, 2013 at 1:28 PM
Since Obowma thinks this Country was built upon racism and oppressive colonialism…
… that is a feature, not a bug.
Seven Percent Solution on May 16, 2013 at 1:29 PM
Epic fail
cmsinaz on May 16, 2013 at 1:29 PM
Were these two guys working in the exempt organizations group in Cincinnati, and now they’re missing?
BuckeyeSam on May 16, 2013 at 1:29 PM
Scandalmania!
Punchenko on May 16, 2013 at 1:29 PM
And, President Obama and Eric Holder didn’t learn of this until they read it in the newspaper!
Resist We Much on May 16, 2013 at 1:30 PM
No special counsel for IRS
Unstinkingbelievable
cmsinaz on May 16, 2013 at 1:32 PM
Soooooo…
We were protecting TERRORISTS but refused to protect our Ambassador in Benghazi who was surrounded by terrorists?! What the f..udge?!
easyt65 on May 16, 2013 at 1:32 PM
They aren’t Tea Partiers so the government isn’t interested in keeping track of them.
rbj on May 16, 2013 at 1:33 PM
Even though Richard Milhous Nixon excelled at Foreign Policy, opening new areas of trade with China and other countries, he will always be remembered for the political chicanery known as Watergate.
And, now, even though Barack Hussein Obama, will still go down in history as America’s first Black President (second, if you count Bubba Clinton), that honor will be eclipsed.
Instead, he will be known as the president who brought Chicago Politics to the White House.
kingsjester on May 16, 2013 at 1:33 PM
I think I see a pattern here…
Seven Percent Solution on May 16, 2013 at 1:34 PM
Nincompoops in charge of the world.
Idiots of the world, wake up.
Schadenfreude on May 16, 2013 at 1:34 PM
You can lose your car keys. You don’t lose people in witness protection.
portlandon on May 16, 2013 at 1:34 PM
Obama and his thuggish cabal are exposed to light.
Schadenfreude on May 16, 2013 at 1:34 PM
We need more money
cmsinaz on May 16, 2013 at 1:34 PM
The Muslim Brotherhood will be pleased.
kingsjester on May 16, 2013 at 1:35 PM
Was he asked about justification for tapping the House cloakroom phones?
I didn’t hear that question, if it was asked.
wyntre9 on May 16, 2013 at 1:35 PM
Hey, what’s the problem people??
It’s not like we have any thing coming up like
Memorial Day….
ToddPA on May 16, 2013 at 1:35 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/395714_441617025929739_176709458_n.jpg
katy the mean old lady on May 16, 2013 at 1:35 PM
Say good night and GO Home, wherever that is.
Schadenfreude on May 16, 2013 at 1:35 PM
The muzzie brothers of Obama are dancing with joy. They succeed, apace, with his approval and support.
Schadenfreude on May 16, 2013 at 1:36 PM
Check the nearest left-wing university (but I repeat myself).
They’re probably fully tenured professors now like Dohrn, Ayers, Boudin…
Ronchris on May 16, 2013 at 1:36 PM
‘Again, terrorists are NOT a threat to democratic power, Tea Partiers are’
You nailed it, ted.
wyntre9 on May 16, 2013 at 1:36 PM
Son of A…OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ToddPA on May 16, 2013 at 1:36 PM
I don’t know the particulars per the Constitution and Separation of Powers, but, Congress MUST do aggression on Benghazi and the IRS. Holder’s already declared a crime-boss and what he and Obama decide certainly cannot be held as reliable. At this rate, how much more information about that does Congress need.
Lourdes on May 16, 2013 at 1:36 PM
Bmore, photoshop two men and one woman, Obama, Holder and Hillary, as the Three Monkeys of Oblivion. You can use Ed’s pic. as a baseline. Thanks ahead.
Schadenfreude on May 16, 2013 at 1:37 PM
Ah, my bug-eyed beauty! I’m so in love with that girl.
Get lost! I saw her first!
CurtZHP on May 16, 2013 at 1:37 PM
Ha- this was my first thought too…great minds, Ed :)
Jackalope on May 16, 2013 at 1:38 PM
Good thing the grown-ups are in charge.
29Victor on May 16, 2013 at 1:39 PM
OT-Some good news for a change. Unless you happen to be a rat-eared passerby or a member of his corrupt party trying to turn the NLRB into a rubber stamp for union thuggery. The crux of the adminstration’s position
iswas that they could ignore the single appeals court ruling about the illegality of the NLRB appointees. Well,A second appeals court has joined the D.C. Circuit in ruling that President Barack Obama’s recess appointments to the National Labor Relations Board were unconstitutional, concluding that some board actions taken in the wake of those appointments were also invalid
Happy Nomad on May 16, 2013 at 1:40 PM
This has that water buffalo big sis’s fingerprints all over this? Think how many other rop type are missing in the US?
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letget on May 16, 2013 at 1:40 PM
Looks like Barry has finally figured out what went wrong in Benghazi.
a capella on May 16, 2013 at 1:40 PM
Muslim Non-Profit Applications Fly Through IRS Office That Targeted Conservatives With “Minimal Scrutiny”…
Resist We Much on May 16, 2013 at 1:41 PM
America is in the best of hands or something…
workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 1:41 PM
The corruption is unbelievable. So, in 2010, the WH and the IRS conspired to keep tea party sympathizers from having a voice by deepsixing the groups that would have organized them while simultaneously funding ACORN and other dim get-out-the-vote efforts, even going so far as to accuse repubs of racism for supporting voter ID laws . . .
This is beyond Machiavellian.
wyntre9 on May 16, 2013 at 1:41 PM
Did we pivot away from jobs again?
Gatsu on May 16, 2013 at 1:42 PM
Probably got a grant to build a franchise office in Mexico City.
workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 1:43 PM
IIRC didn’t bho/holder take this to the SC for their ruling to stall stall?
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letget on May 16, 2013 at 1:43 PM
Just Chicago politics. Here,..let me introduce you to Valerie Jarrett….
a capella on May 16, 2013 at 1:44 PM
Traditional UK dinner
workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 1:44 PM
Just curious, what was his response to the Nixon comparison question? Contrived indignation?
crrr6 on May 16, 2013 at 1:45 PM
It certainly is something.
hawkeye54 on May 16, 2013 at 1:46 PM
Lourdes gotta play Mr nice
cmsinaz on May 16, 2013 at 1:47 PM
Nixon reply:
He’ll let history be the guide or something.
wyntre9 on May 16, 2013 at 1:47 PM
When you have an executive branch that has been re-structured to prioritize political goals over practical ones, this is what you get.
Socratease on May 16, 2013 at 1:48 PM
Can we just drop Barky into the Witless Protection Program and forget where we put him? Please?
NeighborhoodCatLady on May 16, 2013 at 1:48 PM
Yup. Jarrett = great-granddaughter of Machiavelli. She’s the one calling the shots. I pray for the day she’s outed.
wyntre9 on May 16, 2013 at 1:48 PM
From a Facebook post.
Jackalope on May 16, 2013 at 1:49 PM
Putting a brazen liar / incompetent political hack in charge of the NSA will fix all of this.
forest on May 16, 2013 at 1:49 PM
Why am I not surprised? The regime doesn’t take the threat seriously.
Did you all hear about the mysterious folks at the Quabin reservoir the other night? It’s Boston’s water supply. Folks from Pakisatn, Saudi Arabia and Singapore decided on a midnight stroll. The Staties took down their names and addresses and let them go…
This is the result of Zero’s policies regarding the war on terror.
Now you would think the Mass Police would not bow to that PC stupidity.
dogsoldier on May 16, 2013 at 1:51 PM
Am sure your preezy will get a charter plane for them, or better yet, put them on the rotational of troops coming home..
jimver on May 16, 2013 at 1:51 PM
Even a blind squirrel finds nuts once in a while. There they are…
Fallon on May 16, 2013 at 1:52 PM
Not enough money for electric cars and Gay Pride celebrations at US Embassies around the world I guess…
Priorities being what they are.
ok.
I’m sure the President is right about that…btw…Is John Kerry still waiting for Putin to answer the phone?
workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 1:52 PM
Holder isn’t at fault. He recused himself from these matters a year or 2 ago. It was in the summer…sometime…yes … in the summer, maybe 2 or 3 years ago.
BoxHead1 on May 16, 2013 at 1:53 PM
dogsoldier on May 16, 2013 at 1:51 PM
The Obama Administration defines the term “enemies domestic”.
kingsjester on May 16, 2013 at 1:53 PM
It is better to speak for yourself and be thought a fool than to appoint Jay Carney and remove all doubt.
PolarCoug on May 16, 2013 at 1:53 PM
Actual CNN headline: “Obama counter-punches in effort to regain political balance”
Right, because this is just like a boxing match, you see. Blustery responses to rampant corruption charges will help Obama get his mojo back or something.
crrr6 on May 16, 2013 at 1:53 PM
And how does one get to leave the WPP without dying?
Rich H on May 16, 2013 at 1:54 PM
katy the mean old lady on May 16, 2013 at 1:35 PM
I did hear that squirrel is now going to star in the new Michael Jackson Bio-pic.
kingsjester on May 16, 2013 at 1:54 PM
Mom Jeans
workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 1:54 PM
Only by half the country. To the other half, he’ll be the man who saved the country from tax-paying families (aka the Tea Party).
hawksruleva on May 16, 2013 at 1:55 PM
MY Preezy? If he’s mine, he’s just as much yours, isn’t he? Or when did I become a fan of Obama, in your mind?
JFKY on May 16, 2013 at 1:55 PM
THE OBAMA SCANDALS.
Name it, make him own it (of course he won’t take responsibility for it).
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2325606/During-Rose-Garden-press-conference-Obama-refuses-apologize-secretly-seizing-AP-phone-records-shifts-blame-Congress-Benghazi-security-lapses-dodges-question-White-House-IRS-knowledge.html
President Barack Obama dodged questions Thursday about the IRS’s targeting of conservative groups, shifted responsibility for the Benghazi attack to Congress, and said ‘I offer no apologies’ for the Department of Justice’s secret seizure of reporter’s phone records in search of a classified intelligence leak.
In a rain-soaked Rose Garden press conference originally intended to be a victory lap for the United States’ relationship with Turkey, Obama stood alongside Turkish Prime Minister Recep Erdogan and fielded questions which quickly shifted to the trio of scandals that are engulfing his administration.
Beginning in 2010, Obama’s IRS targeted a list of approximately 300 tea party-related and other conservative groups for aggressive scrutiny following their applications for tax-exempt status.
His Department of Justice secretly spied on the Associated Press’s phone records in an attempt to trace a national security leak.
And his State Department political appointees intervened in the aftermath of the 2012 terror attack on an American diplomatic outpost in Libya, in a process that resulted in a misleading set of talking points which ignored terrorism in favor of a more muted explanation, in the midst of a re-election campaign.
PappyD61 on May 16, 2013 at 1:56 PM
Correction on the POS’s response to the Nixon comparisons.
From WZ:
“Draw Your Own Conclusions”…
wyntre9 on May 16, 2013 at 1:56 PM
Awww c’mon, it’s not like Bostonians could get sick from something people put in the water supply or anything…
hawksruleva on May 16, 2013 at 1:56 PM
This’ll drive ya’ll nuts.
The POS calls in marines to shield him from the rain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ryVflZCa3wQ
wyntre9 on May 16, 2013 at 1:59 PM
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