Video: Michelle crushes celebrity moonbat dissent on O’Reilly

posted at 10:12 pm on January 29, 2007 by Allahpundit

Ah, the great debate: how much influence among the American left as a whole do those bongo-beating, Palestinian-flag-flying, papier-mache-head-wearing crackpots who were out in force in D.C. this weekend have? Not very much at all, insists the fetching yet unpersuasive Ms. Powers.

The boss thinks otherwise.

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Ms. Malkin needs to be careful lest someone charge her with cruelty to moonbats.

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GT on January 29, 2007 at 10:21 PM

Another good discussion. We’ll know more by September but (if I were a betting man) I’d wager Michelle is correct and the lovely KP is suffering from wishful thinking.

Zorro on January 29, 2007 at 10:33 PM

Here we are again. Kirsten chides the people at that march for putting emotion over thinking, yet she like them supports talking up the genocide in Darfur yet didn’t support the war in Iraq for humanitarian or any other reasons. If anything, the humanitarian crisis in Iraq was bigger than the one in Darfur. It was at least equal to it and certainly lasted longer. Unlike Darfur, the crisis that was Saddam was always threatening to spread beyond Iraq to the whole Middle East. Darfur is likely to stay local. What is the logic behind this position of elevating Darfur over Iraq, and what do people like Kirsten think will happen if we start taking more initiative to get Darfur on the international agenda?

Here’s what will happen. We get convinced that Darfur is worth a major effort. We take it to the UN. There are discussions and votes, but for realpolitik reasons the Chinese and Russians veto any meaningful action. Having made so much noise about the issue, it will then be on us to do something about it. The press will blame us for the genocide from that point forward.

Unless, that is, we send in enough troops to deal with the situation effectively. The moment we do that, the pro-intervention people will step right off the bandwagon and blame the US for anything and everything that goes wrong. Then they’ll go back to shouting “Free Tibet!” knowing full well that we’ll never put troops anywhere near there.

At least in Darfur, these people are advocating stopping radical Muslims. Why they don’t advocate stopping radical Muslims anywhere else, though, doesn’t seem very logical to me.

Bryan on January 29, 2007 at 10:40 PM

As always, straight to the point, with clarity Michelle, thank you…..

But it has always been a mystery to me {not really}, that you get a group of Anti-War, Anti-Bush, Anti-American folks in the numbers that were dwarfted by the last NFL football game, and all of a sudden……. “America wants a pull-out”.

I say again, the MSM is pathetic.

I still want to know who ordered the Capital Police to stand by and not stop the protestors who defiled “The People’s House” by spray painting slogans on the Capital steps… turning it into no more than a building from ” the hood”.

“Mz. Pelosi???”

{those darn crickets, chirping again….}

An idea, keep the footage for the next election…..

PinkyBigglesworth on January 29, 2007 at 10:41 PM

It is beginning to look like the Radical Left is becoming the step child no one wants. Is there sanity on the Left or is this an illusion?

omegaram on January 29, 2007 at 10:43 PM

Another good discussion. We’ll know more by September but (if I were a betting man) I’d wager Michelle is correct and the lovely KP is suffering from wishful thinking.

Zorro on January 29, 2007 at 10:33 PM

Another example of Real Conservatism vs. Utopian/Ideological Liberalism.

I really admire KP for her Idealism, but it doesn’t make her right.

Michelle, on the other hand, is right because she is ideologically grounded in reality.

And MM has a much prettier smile than KP any day.

Lawrence on January 29, 2007 at 10:46 PM

Michelle is absolutely right and KP is wrong, which is unfortunate for this country.

As evidence just how wrong KP is, what really struck me was a particular scene from the “anti war” footage that O’Reilly showed where a bad actor in a mask with blood on his hands was coddling a globe of the Earth in an expression of pure evil.

This shtick was not by a compassionate person who wants our soldiers to come home safe and sound. It was by someone consumed with hatred for this country – someone who is so deranged they actually think that Bush gets perverted pleasure out of the bloody reality of war.

Buy Danish on January 29, 2007 at 10:46 PM

You know, I’ve always liked Kirsten Powers … but I’m really disappointed by something I just saw at her blog:

The fact that Rudy is taken as seriously as he is even without announcing a run, is all you need to know about how seriously the majority of Republicans take adulterous behavior in their candidates. If a Democrat cheats, public dollars should be spent investigating it and he should be put under oath to be questioned about it.

I can’t believe she, of all people, swallowed that old liberal lie hook – line – and sinker. No, Kirsten … although no one (of either party) should have been pleased with Clinton’s immorality (or Rudy’s adultery), that was never the issue with impeachment.

He lied under oath. Broke the law. And lied to us. That’s what it was about.

When Giuliani lies under oath, call us. Until then, that little ditty was just … disappointing. You can do better.

Professor Blather on January 29, 2007 at 10:49 PM

“War is not the answer”…I hate that phrase…they say its not the answer but I do not recall them suggesting any alternatives besides just sitting back and doing nothing.

EnochCain on January 29, 2007 at 10:50 PM

what is up with KP’s hair tonight? It looks like she’s wearing a hood.

lorien1973 on January 29, 2007 at 10:52 PM

Professor Blather,

Thank you for that. It is very disappointing. Do you think it’s Useful Idiot ignorance or a willful twisting of the historical facts?

Buy Danish on January 29, 2007 at 10:57 PM

Ms. Malkin needs to be careful lest someone charge her with cruelty to moonbats.

PETA anyone?

TwinkietheKid on January 29, 2007 at 10:57 PM

Michelle is the Jack Bauer of conservative political punditry.

infidel4life on January 29, 2007 at 11:16 PM

Interesting debate about the influence of the far left.

In KP’s defense I’d add not only Howard Dean, but also Ned Lamont.

But in Michelle’s defense, I’d add Iraq; in spite of our clear moral and military advantage, the far left stands a good chance of forcing US defeat in Iraq. And Howard Dean, for that matter, who’s now DNC chair.

They’re still a minority, but they’re a powerful one.

sandberg on January 29, 2007 at 11:17 PM

someone just hacked the bejesus out of KPs wikipedia page… possible a sign that she’s ascending to something greater?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirsten_Powers

el75 on January 29, 2007 at 11:22 PM

someone just hacked the bejesus out of KPs wikipedia page…

el75 on January 29, 2007 at 11:22 PM

No surprise there. Democrats eat there own, ya’ know.

CyberCipher on January 29, 2007 at 11:26 PM

MM was dead-on as usual and stays on point even when Bill is trying to lead her where he wants her to go.

Bill was right…his talking points memo tonight should be preserved for the ages. His reporter asked the right questions of the right people at the right time. Hanoi Jane was speechless and it was clearly trying to find a place to hide. Robbins answer to the question was right out of the Baba Boxer handbook of stupid liberal retorts to serious questions. IE…the reporter is not allowed to ask a ligitimate question until he fights in Iraq. Penn…PENN is a complete IDIOT! His response was sooooo intellectually void, I couldn’t get mad. I actually started laughing! I forget what Susan said, but my impression was more of the same meaningless liberal blather.

csdeven on January 29, 2007 at 11:28 PM

KP said:

they were lacking intellectual heft

Hefty! She knows, however, that these rats/warts/hemorrhoids won’t go away and will be a real pain to whomever the dem. frontrunner/s will be.

Biggest insanity from Jane Fonda – the millions after Viet Nam died because the U.S. went in there in the first place. If only stupidity would hurt…if only…

Entelechy on January 29, 2007 at 11:31 PM

Here’s what will happen. We get convinced that Darfur is worth a major effort. We take it to the UN. There are discussions and votes, but for realpolitik reasons the Chinese and Russians veto any meaningful action. Having made so much noise about the issue, it will then be on us to do something about it. The press will blame us for the genocide from that point forward.

Unless, that is, we send in enough troops to deal with the situation effectively. The moment we do that, the pro-intervention people will step right off the bandwagon and blame the US for anything and everything that goes wrong. Then they’ll go back to shouting “Free Tibet!” knowing full well that we’ll never put troops anywhere near there.

It’s almost as if you have a crystal ball … except for the fact that you don’t need one to predict the utterly predictable.

Maybe Hillary or Obama can send US troops in when they take over in ’09. Yeah, right.

thirteen28 on January 29, 2007 at 11:37 PM

Mmmmmmm… MM and KP.

x95b10 on January 29, 2007 at 11:39 PM

Ms. Malkin needs to be careful lest someone charge her with cruelty to moonbats. — GT

ASPC-P.O.S.-A?

Mazztek on January 29, 2007 at 11:47 PM

So she’s “fetching” again. Is this a rapprochement?

mikeyboss on January 30, 2007 at 12:06 AM

I really hate Hollywood. Recently, I found myself watching a few minutes of the Golden Globe Awards and couldn’t get over how much self-worship these people have for themselves. They believe they are the highest form of art in the modern age. They feel they are the true esthetic patriarchs of all that is meaningful and deep! Therefore, we should all stop what we’re doing and listen to them! Like Michelle, I haven’t agreed with every step of this current administration’s way of handling the war on terror, but I have been for our efforts in this war since it began…BUT OH WAIT!!! SEAN PENN’S TALKING NOW! HE SAYS I’VE GOT IT ALL WRONG!!! MAYBE HE’S RIGHT!!! WHAT DO I KNOW? I DON’T KNOW DAKOTA FANNING AND MADONNA AND J-LO LIKE HE DOES SO MAYBE I’M WRONG.

Joshua P. Allem on January 30, 2007 at 12:11 AM

Joshua Sparling ! Does that name ring a bell? You may recall he’s the disabled vet who received a death threat from one Micheal Crooke, while recovering from injuries sustained in Iraq. Well guess who our spat on soldier turns out to be, none other than Joshua Sparling. This poor guy is really taking hits for the home team. If anyone has a link to his blog or an email address I would be grateful. As for Micheal Crooke may you live in your putrified state of hatred for all your days!

sonnyspats1 on January 30, 2007 at 12:21 AM

I saw this segment tonight. I have to say, the Factor producers going after comments from Hanoi Jane and Sean Pinhead was truly spot-on for getting the moonbat quotes. As usual – excellent analysis from Michelle and KP afterward. I love seeing the left’s useful idiots on display. It keeps their idiocy at the forefront of mainstream Americans (those of us who live in “fly-over country) and reaffirms why we loathe them.

thedecider on January 30, 2007 at 12:42 AM

Joshua P. Allem on January 30, 2007 at 12:11 AM

You really took the words right out of my mouth. Their self-importance and bewildering group-think are simply astounding. What’s the phrase…”pride goeth before a fall”. I can’t wait for the fall.

thedecider on January 30, 2007 at 12:45 AM

KP’s fooling herself about the size of the moonbat “minority” (even as they increasingly turn on her), but you can’t entirely blame her. No rational adult–which she is, even if she’s wrong sometimes–would want to be associated with those deranged hordes, so naturally she tries to convince herself that they aren’t representative of her party. Unfortunately for all of us and the nation, she’s wrong.

ReubenJCogburn on January 30, 2007 at 1:14 AM

The moonbats who showed up in Washington this past weekend really aren’t that much of a problem for the Democrat party. At least 40-50% of them would never vote Democrat. Green Party, Socialist or NRML, yes, but not Democrat.

thegreatbeast on January 30, 2007 at 1:23 AM

“War is not the answer”

Kinda depends on the question, don’t it?

mojo on January 30, 2007 at 1:44 AM

Thegreatbeast has a point. Most of them WON’T vote Democrat.

But the persuasive data available is that the moonbats THINK they own the party, that it is their party, now. Either moveon or kos (I don’t remember which) claimed such last spring when they laid the law down on Dean and the DNC.

Even though the candidates were picked and managed by Rahm Emmanuel and Chuck Schumer, and were picked to play to their district’s demographics, the moonbats believe that THEY were responsible for the Democratic take over in Congress. They still point with pride at beating Lieberman in the primary. Michael Moore did his little happy dance and threatened ALL Democrats to toe the anti-war line, OR ELSE.

As we know, Lieberman won bigtime in the general election as an independent.

But this DOES NOT change the moonbat mindset. They DEMAND impeachment, NOW! They DEMAND out of Iraq, NOW! They DEMAND Cheny/Rove/Bush to be indicted for outing Plame, NOW! They DEMAND war crimes trials for Bush and Rumsfeld, NOW!

Those Democrats who want to be President WILL kow-tow to them, don’t be fooled otherwise. In that sense, Michelle is dead on — we ARE looking at the face of the 2007-2008 Democratic Party at those demonstrations.

I believe that as they get shriller or more violent, America will reject them in 2008. In fact, if they push hard enough, I believe that the backlash will result in a rejection that could be severe enough to return the Republicans to Congress and retain the White House for them, too. At least that is what I hope.

So, I will curb my enthusiam to want to go out and discuss with the punks who spit at wounded vet Josh Sparling exactly what their “issues” are — without taking along an iron pipe or a 2×4 studded with nails. And I’ll wait until they are well and truly screwed on election day. Then I’ll be on every one of their blog sites LAUGHING at them and insulting them as the stupid, evil, pigs they are.

georgej on January 30, 2007 at 2:16 AM

Oh come on, Kirsten dear – jump!!! We can see on your face that in your heart you know Democrats are the Scum Party, and you’re way too good and smart for them. Jump, girl – you can do it!!!

Halley on January 30, 2007 at 2:35 AM

Spicoli sighting.
Eating at a table next to mine in an Indian restaurant in Marin County last night. Fresh back from the D.C. rally. Spent 75% of his time on a cell phone — ignoring his wife and kids. What a putz.
Wanna hear about the face-down bar sightings?

CanaryinaCoalMine on January 30, 2007 at 3:44 AM

MM was spot on. Just a big temper tantrum by a bunch of spoiled brats. I mean, these people go to work everyday and pretend to be serious adults. I’m surprised Hanoi Jane and Sean didn’t put their hands over their ears and go “waahhh waahhh” while the Fox guy was asking them questions.

They’re overgrown children and you can’t have a serious discussion with little kids.

BOR had a great point at the end of the segment…..not one legitimate Presidential candidate appeared at the rally.

BacaDog on January 30, 2007 at 7:25 AM

someone just hacked the bejesus out of KPs wikipedia page…

el75 on January 29, 2007 at 11:22 PM

I reverted it. Maybe I’ll put it on my watch list.

The Monster on January 30, 2007 at 9:02 AM


Joshua Sparling ! Does that name ring a bell? You may recall he’s the disabled vet who received a death threat from one Micheal Crooke, while recovering from injuries sustained in Iraq.

He was on Fox & Friends this morning with his girlfriend and his dad. He appears to be the outstanding young man that I figured he was. He was giving his view of what happened at the “peace” rally, which wasn’t.

He also proposed to his girlfriend at the end of the segment. His dad said that they were having some financial problems due to his extended recovery. Any comments, congratulations and such can be sent to friends AT foxnews DOT com. Steve said they would forward them to the Sparlings.

I caught the MM segment last night and she was dead on. I’m not exactly why KP was on. She seemed to have a deer-in-the-headlights look. Not exactly sure how you defend the scum that showed for the rally.

TugboatPhil on January 30, 2007 at 9:19 AM

Screw these morons. They think they speak for our country? Spitting on wounded Vets? “We support the troops … bring them home NOW!” Why, so you can piss on ‘em next? I fly all across this country, everytime there’s a Soldier, Sailor, Airman, Coastie or Marine on the plane I get on the mic and announce it. The whole plane erupts is appause. Doesn’t matter where in the nation we are, they always clap. This is a microcosm of our country. People from all over, going here, going there. North, South, East and West. They all support our Troops. These moonbat demonstrators are nothing but leftovers from the 60s that never grew up. They represent nobody but themselves. They have the freedom to protest BECAUSE of people like Joshua whom they spat on, therefore they spit on their own freedom.

By the way, that “babykiller” Joshua proposed to his girlfriend live on Fox … FOX??? CONSPIROCY!!!

Tony737 on January 30, 2007 at 9:22 AM

Bill O’Reilly is making a huge sacrifice for our troops. He has announced–get out the Kleenex–that for every copy of his book sold, he will send a copy to the troops in Iraq.

Hey Bill, stick to making dirty phonecalls to the help why don’t you. Wait til Olberman gets hold of this! Giddy up!!

honora on January 30, 2007 at 10:31 AM

Shouldn’t we always take these moonbat protests as two parts? A symbiotic relationship? It’s never a Left protest by itself. It’s also the MSM. The two are solidly linked. The protests are nothing but theatre pieces for the media. The Right to Life March got NONE of the coverage, yet the crowds were impressive. The only crowd around Cindy Sheehan is comprised nearly 100% of MSM. But, with the right angle and a tight shot, imagery is made. They dodge a plain lie, by saying that a protest occurred. But they manufacture the impression that there is more support out there than there is. They do not make any critical analysis as to which protests are truly grass-roots, that is people leaving their jobs to take to the streets, versus people who have worked on the protest itself to the exclusion of other things. It’s the different between real mournings and paid mourners at a funeral.
Therefore, these things do have more influence than they should. If the incestous ties bewteen the Dem Party, the MSM and the hard Left professional proesters were cut, then it would be a different matter.

naliaka on January 30, 2007 at 10:56 AM

Uk.
Get out the kleenex. honora just showed up and sneezed all over the thread and thinks it’s clever.

naliaka on January 30, 2007 at 11:00 AM


He has announced–get out the Kleenex–that for every copy of his book sold, he will send a copy to the troops in Iraq…..
Wait til Olberman gets hold of this! Giddy up!!

honora on January 30, 2007 at 10:31 AM

Hate to break it to you, but he’s been doing this for a long time. Not news.

TugboatPhil on January 30, 2007 at 11:05 AM

Bill O’Reilly is making a huge sacrifice for our troops. He has announced–get out the Kleenex–that for every copy of his book sold, he will send a copy to the troops in Iraq.

Hey Bill, stick to making dirty phonecalls to the help why don’t you. Wait til Olberman gets hold of this! Giddy up!!

honora on January 30, 2007 at 10:31 AM

Please explain what your point is in regards to the topic of this thread titled “Crushing Moonbat Dissent”?

Lawrence on January 30, 2007 at 11:48 AM

Oops… my bad… I was baited. I see honora is Trolling the threads again.

Lawrence on January 30, 2007 at 11:49 AM

That was one of the best segments in quite a while. I’m not so sure Kirsten’s recent flaming of the crackpots is as much an evolution as it is a revelation.

Did I catch Michelle playing the ‘pinko’ card there at the end?

If so, well played.

Readymade on January 30, 2007 at 12:01 PM

Hmmm, let’s see. Even if you give the tinfoil hat moonbats that this is “Bush’s war”, then they had better take responsibility for the war on the unborn via those that they support who refuse to stop it.

That means that some 3000 American patriots and heros have given their life for Freedom for those oppressed in Iraq…compared to the 40,000,000 plus innocent unborn who have given their lives for what exactly, in the liberal democrats war on the innocent unborn?

No, these are nothing but baby murdering seditious traitors. They are people who, rather than getting choked up with compassion and pride at a song like the old Green Beret, sneer at such with loathing, disgust, and ill will in their hearts when they hear it, just like they do when they see an American flag.

They have no comprehension of somthing like “brave men who are willing to die for those oppressed”. Liberals like this are basically human debris, and nothing more.

Ballad of the Green Beret
by Staff Sergeant Barry Sadler and Robin Moore, copyright 1966

Fighting soldiers from the sky
Fearless men who jump and die
Men who mean just what they say
The brave men of the Green Beret

Silver wings upon their chest
These are men, America’s best
One hundred men will test today
But only three win the Green Beret

Trained to live off nature’s land
Trained in combat, hand-to-hand
Men who fight by night and day
Courage peak from the Green Berets

Silver wings upon their chest
These are men, America’s best
One hundred men will test today
But only three win the Green Beret

Back at home a young wife waits
Her Green Beret has met his fate
He has died for those oppressed
Leaving her his last request

Put silver wings on my son’s chest
Make him one of America’s best
He’ll be a man they’ll test one day
Have him win the Green Beret.

NRA4Freedom on January 30, 2007 at 12:22 PM

Please explain what your point is in regards to the topic of this thread titled “Crushing Moonbat Dissent”?

Lawrence on January 30, 2007 at 11:48 AM

Showing off my ability to walk and chew gum at the same time? I like to point out that there are assholes on all sides of the political spectrum. (This blog being one of the places where such a point actually has to be articulated. Go figure).

honora on January 30, 2007 at 12:27 PM

Wait til Olberman gets hold of this! Giddy up!!

honora on January 30, 2007 at 10:31 AM

honora, Olbermann is spelled with 2 ‘nn’, and the honorable gentleman takes this very, very seriously.

Entelechy on January 30, 2007 at 12:33 PM

honora, Olbermann is spelled with 2 ‘nn’, and the honorable gentleman takes this very, very seriously.

Entelechy on January 30, 2007 at 12:33 PM

I stand corrected. Stupid Norwegians. (Swedes? Danes?)

honora on January 30, 2007 at 12:53 PM

Showing off my ability to walk and chew gum at the same time? I like to point out that there are assholes on all sides of the political spectrum. (This blog being one of the places where such a point actually has to be articulated. Go figure).
honora on January 30, 2007 at 12:27 PM

Kinda ironic isn’t it? honora, of all posters, feeling compelled to articulate the point that there are assholes out there.

naliaka on January 30, 2007 at 1:00 PM

Naliaka, Honora, don’t make me stop this car!

BacaDog on January 30, 2007 at 1:16 PM

I stand corrected. Stupid Norwegians. (Swedes? Danes?)
honora on January 30, 2007 at 12:53 PM

WHAT??

Showing off my ability to walk and chew gum at the same time? I like to point out that there are assholes on all sides of the political spectrum. (This blog being one of the places where such a point actually has to be articulated. Go figure).
honora on January 30, 2007 at 12:27 PM

Have you fallen off something? Why the far left hack attacks, it’s not your normal self, maam.
This bs just makes you look really out there.
Not to mention every dime earned on “O’Reilly gear”, on his site, is given to charities.
Don’t lower yourself to be like the DC protesting crowd we’re currently talking about…unless you are now.

shooter on January 30, 2007 at 2:24 PM

Kinda ironic isn’t it? honora, of all posters, feeling compelled to articulate the point that there are assholes out there.

naliaka on January 30, 2007 at 1:00 PM

Funny, I never took you as a big fan of irony….wonder why…LOL

honora on January 30, 2007 at 2:25 PM

Have you fallen off something? Why the far left hack attacks, it’s not your normal self, maam.
This bs just makes you look really out there.
Not to mention every dime earned on “O’Reilly gear”, on his site, is given to charities.
Don’t lower yourself to be like the DC protesting crowd we’re currently talking about…unless you are now.

shooter on January 30, 2007 at 2:24 PM

You mean like the wagon or something tangible?

I don’t see why bringing up the O’R business is “far left hack”? I like to interject a little of this (ok, I’m a little bit of a brat..) when the RW gets too full of its own virtue.

And, let’s face it, it is fun to bait sometimes!!!

honora on January 30, 2007 at 2:29 PM

honora on January 30, 2007 at 2:29 PM
feisty today huh? Bait? Fishing for friends perhaps?

Didn’t know if it was the wagon or if you literally fell on your (confused) head.

shooter on January 30, 2007 at 2:49 PM

Just exactly what is it you want to say, Honora? What’s with the “interject a little of this…” all about. If your position is against the war, fine, that’s your right. But please stop with the childish attacks on other people and/or their origins. If you support Penn, Fonda, et.al., again, that’s your right.

But, what is your position: right/left/center/wingnut or tinfoil hatted loon? It’s fun to bait? Why?

sharinlite on January 30, 2007 at 2:50 PM

When losing an argument, the lefties bring out the personal attacks. There are going to be a lot of attacks from them this year. Their party thinks free speech is spray painting the capital with anti-war slogans, spitting on veterans, hiding behind Hanoi Jane’s skirt. They do not care about the hundreds of thousands that will be slaughterd and tortured if we do not win. And they never cared about the hundred of thousands that were killed and tortured before we arrived in Iraq. Nor do they honor the soldiers and civilians that are working to rebuild a country and make it free. After all, we humiliated a few at a prison. Notice how few liberals will stand and say they supported what happened in D.C. over the weekend? They hide…these are your people liberals, these are the people who support you and you take their money. Did Pelosi denounce the D.C. actions? No, this was the democratic party coming out party. Afraid to support, afraid to denounce. Afraid to fight. But never afraid to take what is yours, and claim it as ours.

right2bright on January 30, 2007 at 3:15 PM

Just exactly what is it you want to say, Honora? What’s with the “interject a little of this…” all about. If your position is against the war, fine, that’s your right. But please stop with the childish attacks on other people and/or their origins. If you support Penn, Fonda, et.al., again, that’s your right.

But, what is your position: right/left/center/wingnut or tinfoil hatted loon?

It’s fun to bait? Why?

sharinlite on January 30, 2007 at 2:50 PM

Because people can be so pompous and humorless? Like what, you say.

Well take your reaction to my comment to Entelechy, who is hip enough to get the joke re Oblermann’s name. You read it as my making fun of his origin. How absurd.

Thanks for affirming my rights though. Wheeee.

honora on January 30, 2007 at 3:38 PM

honora on January 30, 2007 at 2:29 PM
feisty today huh? Bait? Fishing for friends perhaps?

Always!

Didn’t know if it was the wagon or if you literally fell on your (confused) head.

shooter on January 30, 2007 at 2:49 PM

Well, one normally preceeds the other….ouch!!

honora on January 30, 2007 at 3:39 PM

honora, lady, you disarm me with your ‘hip’ comment, to the point that I can’t ‘nail’ you (only when you ask for it). Heh, but I’m strong enough to overcome :)

Mr. Olbermann happens to be Jewish. The name could be any you enumerated, also German and a few other…but I do find you simpatico when you ‘eat crow’, especially when you initiate it, even if something you disagree with set you off…

Nothing like self-deprecation, and many of us need a bit more of it. Many, you included, are able to serve it and not to take it. Blogging/commenting, by its nature requires a bit of both and taking a deep breath before hitting the ‘submit’ button, or before typing in the first place. Easier said than done.

Professionally I spend much time with many people who believe, vote, live, look, act, react, dress, speak, learn/don’t learn, advocate, etc. very differently from the way I do. They are my clients and it w/b suicidal to insult them. However, that doesn’t mean that I don’t have much fun with them, in good spirits, sometimes with humor, other times by teaching/learning. The main thing is to never go overboard, and to respect the person, regardless.

Often I don’t comment on some of the threads, not because I wouldn’t want to say something, but I prevent the insults that w/b hurled at me, and in reverse.

You, honora, are someone I’d love to have dinner with. I know in my heart of hearts that we’d get along well, for many reasons, while we’d disagree on politics. None of us could ever change the other, and I would never attempt to, as I never do with anyone. Religion and politics s/b a personal choice. There is so much more than politics to life, though.

A very friendly advice, though, and I have tried before – please do not insult others, lose your temper, become ossified, sarcastic, and then demand the reverse from anyone else, here or elsewhere. And once, please just once, please say something like:

- Jane Fonda is wrong when she claims the millions died after we left Viet Nam, because we went in there in the first place, or

- Rosie and the Donald are both scum

Not lecturing – just trying to say that I’ve learned these things the hard way. I grew up being taught (not by my parents) that sarcasm was a virtue. Those of us aflicted with it, can’t fully get away from it – but we can temper it and not demand more of others than we serve.

Entelechy on January 30, 2007 at 4:16 PM

Funny, I never took you as a big fan of irony….wonder why…LOL
honora on January 30, 2007 at 2:25 PM

So, why don’t you just sit down and take that there gum out of your mouth so that you can articulate a little more coherently?

naliaka on January 30, 2007 at 6:12 PM