While the blogosphere jumped on a British report which argues that multi-culturalism has driven an entire generation of young Muslims to radicalization, few noticed how some jurisdictions try very hard to pre-empt this phenomenon. A town in Quebec (!) …

Oh, and honestly, “Bots”? Grow up.

Over at Hot Air, Allah links to a Daily Mail (UK) story highlighting the growing concern over the progressive's multiculturalist project -- a story that, in its way, dovetails nicely with the Melanie Phillips post Dan cited earlier. From &…

Okay.

How?

Freelancer on January 29, 2007 at 12:41 PM

Lemmings on the left, Lemmings on the right — believe the extremist doctrine of your party of choice. Left, right makes no difference to me you act and sound the same. Bots.

I served this nation at war, and I have no fantasies of leading a militia. You are the one who reads your worldview into your interpretation of everyone else’s words.

All I did was point out that you spun the conclusion of the report to mean something entirely different than it clearly said. You are the one who is trying to universalize the concept of the numbers.

And tell me, how do you “encourage the MAJORITY of these yough who have no interest in this to help convert the MINORITY of their age group to rethink their positions”?

“Hey, you muslim young folk who are reasonable, go tell your unreasonable countrymen to get with the program…”

As a comparison, how many Germans of the 30’s and 40’s were Nazis? Far less than 1/3. So don’t be too flippant about the MINORITY, if they are passionate.

No. The point and conclusion of the article that you missed by such a wide margin was that the way to change is to drop multiculturalism as a virtual religion in society, and to employ policies which expect immigrants to assimilate into the culture of their home nation or get out.

You talk about converts – I would submit that the one key to fighting the radicals is to encourage the MAJORITY of these youth who have no interest in this to help convert that MINORITY of their age group to rethink their positions. This won’t happen if people continue to write off an entire group of people. By doing so you create the vacuum for them to feel relegated to.

The “fracture” between the 16 – 24 year old British Muslims and their 50 something parents actually has little to do with the changing views of age and much more to do with the age group that radical Islam has been targeting and brainwashing into the cult of death. Where many of these youth were assimilated into British culture only a few years ago they are now isolated from their nations culture and taught to hate it and to destroy it. The collective of Radical Islam is using multiculturalism without assimilation as a weapon.

It is a little of both. Who do the cultists target in any particular country? This same age group. So is it a surprise that this is a tactic employed by the radical Islamics?

You also are discounting the fact that even though it is a real concern 2/3 of the youth aren’t buying it. Isn’t this a positive side of the story? Shouldn’t those that have chosen to be part of society be encouraged to continue to do so? To ignore this aspect is foolish.

The British and Americans, as well as much of the western world, is unable to mount any defense against Radical Islam because it is hiding within an entire religion and is enjoying a protected status as it plans and carries out our defeat.

I don’t advocate the mass deportation of Muslims but I do think that this threat will mean that we have to make a decision as to exactly what free speech is. Should “Death To America” still be viewed as protected free speech? Should radical Islam be allowed to exist within our nation’s Mosques? I’m afraid that if the answer is still YES then the battle is already over and free democratic societies have already lost.

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Does multiculturalism work?

The vote is about halfway down. Nearly 4500 people have voted so far and about 70% think that multiculturalism doesn’t work. Only 23% think it does. The fools!

When was the last time you looked in your kid’s backpack and found out what they are really learning, rolled it up and poked it in the eye of the local school district?
Let’s quit laughing to cover our fear, and GET IN THERE AND CHANGE THE AGENDA.

Not sure that you’ll get it though, given past comments of yours.

Freelancer on January 29, 2007 at 1:52 AM

Whatever Freelancer. The specific demographic was the 16-24 age group.This seems to indicate this is the peak and begins to fall off as they get older. What does the study say about the 25-54 age group? Not a thing.
It also means that 63% (a majority in case you missed it) of the 16-24 year olds do not seem to have this extremist opinion. That should mean that 2/3 of the Muslims in that age group have assimilated without even considering the extremist policies.

But given your past comments waxing poetic about how great the coming days of anarchy will be interspersed with your out of context quotes of the founders of our country…. well, wouldn’t want to spoil your fantasies of leading the militias and killing off the ones you deem undesirable.

You latch onto a minority view and paint all Muslims with the opinions of a minority to justify unbridled hatred.

Extremism is ugly no matter what religion you practice.

Uh, isn’t this the point of multiculturalism? To destroy common identity? Y’know, divide and conquer?

spmat on January 29, 2007 at 12:57 AM

Let’s try that again, in the masculine register. The purpose in devising the multiculturalist doctrine seems to have been to divide a liberal democracy into a guilt-ridden, self-doubting, permissive majority and some number of irreconcilable minorities, who are nevertheless united in hating and despising the majority. The men who actively promote the doctrine seem to be of two sorts, those who understand the doctrine’s destructive effects and those who have been persuaded by the doctrine’s speeches about good and evil and who have come to view themselves as being on the side of righteousness.

Looks like a good sign – after the more idealistic youth meets the reality of everyday life their perspective changes. Kind of like the tendency to be more liberal when younger in the U.S.

Could you have read that paragraph more wrongly, Bradky? The report did not suggest that people changed opinions as they aged. The entire point was that an earlier generation emigrated and chose to assimilate into the existing culture, prior to the days of PC and multiculturalism. With the growth of those two trends, the younger generation has been given every reason to resist assimilation, and to seek the imposition of their historically ethnic culture onto their “adopted” homeland. This is not a good sign, it is the furthest possible thing from a good sign.

Not sure that you’ll get it though, given past comments of yours.

The doctrine of multi-culturalism has alienated an entire generation of young Muslims

Europe which, in the name of political correctness, has abdicated the battle for cultural and religious control

And we were critical of multi-culti and PC – it works!

I can’t even muster a sarcastic “surprise!” for this one

Multi-culti and PC, complete successes!

omegaram on January 29, 2007 at 12:23 AM

So true…

I am an Eagle Scout of the Boy Scouts of America…

I am a “White” male, who is Roman Catholic, and votes Conservative, most times, for the Republican party…

I am a single father, who took responsibility and faught in the courts, and am paying for the right to raise my son…

I hold a Masters Degree, as I watch affirmative action move from career to career, yet I still work….

I have enough blame to give, yet none to place, other than myslef for my own plight, and that of my family…

My success can not be taken away due to a policy change, because I have made it my own…

“multi-culturalism”

is see as verneral warts…. if you choose to lay down with them, don’t complain of the consequences.

The fruits of thier labor will always come home, as it is now, but just not making the Headline News, …..

An example….. this one is easy….. the next time you are stopped at an intersection, put down your cell phone, and look around you……. just take a look….. Welcome to America.

The real weakness in the UK, Europe, and in the United States is not the Islamofacist, but the Left with their notions of “multi-culturalism” and politically correct behavior that encourages fragmentation and lack of unity.

Well put! Let’s remember pre-cold-war Europe. Constant wars, border struggles, and dozens of fiefdoms constantly at a state of war. Europe has a long history of internal conflict and I think it’s inching metricizing back to its old roots.

People with the same religion who speak the same language rarely fight each other in open warfare. Now that Islam has entered the picture I can only see the religion of peace bringing Europe back to an ugly place of mass murder on a scale we haven’t seen since WWII. It’s like a neo-Ottoman empire is emerging from the vast sea of unregulated immigration that Europe has foolishly allowed.