Report: Karbala ambushers kidnapped U.S. troops, killed them miles away

posted at 12:15 pm on January 26, 2007 by Allahpundit

We’ll probably be spared a beheading video or a Tucker/Menchaca mutilation montage here, but only because the cavalry was in hot pursuit.

Contrary to U.S. military statements, four U.S. soldiers did not die repelling a sneak attack at the governor’s office in the Shiite holy city of Karbala last week. New information obtained by The Associated Press shows they were abducted and found dead or dying as far as 25 miles away.

The brazen assault 50 miles south of Baghdad was launched Jan. 20 by a group of nine to 12 militants. They traveled in black GMC Suburban vehicles – the type used by U.S. government convoys, had American weapons, wore new U.S. military combat fatigues and spoke English

Two senior U.S. military officials as well as Iraqi officials now say three of them were found dead and one mortally wounded in locations as far as 25 miles east of the governor’s office.

The U.S. officials said they could not be sure if the soldiers were killed as the attackers drove them to the place where they abandoned the Suburbans or afterward. Iraqi officials said the men were killed just before the vehicles were abandoned.

Didn’t the Iraqi guards at the checkpoints notice that all the “Americans” in the GMCs were Arabs? Probably — but they might have been instructed to let them through anyway. My pal Zeyad, blogging at Iraqslogger, is following the Iraqi media coverage on this and says the leading theory is that it’s an inside job.

Babel Police Commander General Qais Al-Ma’mouri revealed today that the gunmen abducted four other Americans before they retreated to the Sadda area, east of Karbala, in the Babel Governorate, but killed them later after security forces chased them. There have been other contradicting details by Western news sources over the last two days, but [the Sadrist website] Nahrain said that the Babel Governor made a phone call to the Karbala Governor that day and informed him that a top U.S. military delegation was on its way to Karbala, asking him to fully cooperate and allow the convoy to enter the holy city unchecked. Iraqi security sources have maintained that it was very unlikely for insurgents to effectively disguise themselves as U.S. troops and to pass several Iraqi checkpoints to the Shi’ite holy city, especially at this time of heightened security measures during the holy days of Muharram. Even less likely the fact that they would spare Iraqi security officials in the attack. Sunni websites have made allegations that the attack was an Iranian or SCIRI operation, ruling out the Sadrists because the attack was too sophisticated for them.

I can’t find any current information about the political leadership in Babel, but the fact that the Sadrists are pointing the finger at the governor and the Sunnis aren’t pointing the finger back at the Sadrists makes me think it’s probably a rival Shiite party like SCIRI. Why SCIRI, whose leader met with Bush at the White House in December, would want to antagonize the U.S. with the surge set to begin makes less than zero sense to me.

Petraeus was confirmed by the Senate this morning, 81-0. Chuck Schumer celebrated his appointment yesterday by predicting that the surge will fail. Meanwhile, Madam Speaker is in Baghdad with Murtha on a surprise fact-finding mission. She’ll meet with Maliki and then give a solemn press conference about escalation and political solutions and our brave troops using talking points that were already written before the “fact-finding” began. It’s the political equivalent of the Rick Bragg toe-touch.

There is some good news, though: the jihadis heroically liberated a Baghdad market this morning from the clutches of Zionist parakeets. 14 dead.

Update: More good news. The Iraqi VP who almost became prime minister earlier this year and and has since been touted as a replacement for Maliki calls the U.S.’s invasion in 2003 an “idiot decision.” He’s also a member of SCIRI.


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someone is going to pay

Defector01 on January 26, 2007 at 12:17 PM

Does anyone have any doubt that madame speaker has an agenda that will not be strayed from?
She is a disgrace.

bbz123 on January 26, 2007 at 12:20 PM

This makes my stomach turn inside out…

BirdEye on January 26, 2007 at 12:28 PM

In a country full of shinola-box white cars with orange fenders, how does one come about a couple of black suburbans and not draw attention to themselves?

Alden Pyle on January 26, 2007 at 12:36 PM

“Fool me once” What no more hiding under burkas? I pray for the families of the fallen and honor their courage and bravery.

sonnyspats1 on January 26, 2007 at 12:37 PM

The Treason Party in action….

And then there is Russ Feingold who is introducing a bill to CUT OFF ALL FUNDING for military operations in Iraq.

georgej on January 26, 2007 at 12:40 PM

Three days after the attack, the U.S. military in Baghdad announced the arrest of four suspects in the attack and said they had been detained on a tip from a Karbala resident.

Someone call the ACLU, get them lawyers, phone calls, Korans, special meals, the Bill of Rights, Amnesty International, the French, the UN, Mz. Pelosi, Sen. Hagle, Kerry (who served in Vietnam), the “swimmer”, the “pink pant suit”, Rev. Jackson, Keith Olberman, Chris Matthews, Dan Rather….

PinkyBigglesworth on January 26, 2007 at 12:40 PM

It’s being reported by AP, I don’t believe a single word of it.

Capitalist Infidel on January 26, 2007 at 12:40 PM

Abandoning an SUV with an intent to kill only five soldiers requires a huge source of money. Iran is behind this.

Ouabam on January 26, 2007 at 12:44 PM

Capitalist Infidel on January 26, 2007 at 12:40 PM

I second that. With the AP’s questionable sources coming under fire as of late, I’ll wait to make a decision until I hear it confirmed by other sources. Either way, a few bashs in the head with an ak47 doesn’t seem like near enough punishment for the guys that are attacking our troops, does it?

What I will not wait to do is re-affirm my commitment to supporting the troops and my prayers that go out to the soldiers family, friends, and battle buddies.

csdeven on January 26, 2007 at 12:51 PM

It is her opportunity to get a photo op on a anti-aircraft battery….oh…different war…my bad.

Limerick on January 26, 2007 at 12:52 PM

I’m with you Ouabam, the means just don’t justify the ends. The logistics of it all don’t add up. They expended great resources and used a daring, complex plan to accomplish ied results. The ROI makes this hit smell like fish.

Alden Pyle on January 26, 2007 at 12:54 PM

I note the above from the purely analytical point of someone who has had to justify SMEAC reports.

It in no way trivializes the sacrifice made by 4 of our county’s finest. In my opinion we should have exhausted every daisy cutter in the arsenal before one US Marine got a hangnail in that litter box.

Alden Pyle on January 26, 2007 at 1:00 PM

Update: More good news. The Iraqi VP who almost became prime minister earlier this year and and has since been touted as a replacement for Maliki calls the U.S.’s invasion in 2003 an “idiot decision.” He’s also a member of SCIRI.

Why we did not leave low level, easily controlled Baathists in key positions I’ll never know… Well they probably would have been killed rather quickly but anything besides the den of vipers currently running the national govt would be preferable.

Theworldisnotenough on January 26, 2007 at 1:55 PM

Why we did not leave low level, easily controlled Baathists in key positions I’ll never know…

I know. His name is L. Paul Bremer and he thought he knew best no matter what the military, history, or anyone else had to say.

JaHerer22 on January 26, 2007 at 2:37 PM

If it ends up it was an inside job, they need to go to that detention camp that Dick Turbin was describing in Congress.

Tim Burton on January 26, 2007 at 3:01 PM

Why we did not leave low level, easily controlled Baathists in key positions I’ll never know…
I know. His name is L. Paul Bremer and he thought he knew best no matter what the military, history, or anyone else had to say.

JaHerer22 on January 26, 2007 at 2:37 PM

Bremer and the other clown general dumbass (or whatever his name is/was) were both clueless…

I am glad I left the military before these idiots and polticially correct asskissers took power.. the whole command has got to be in total shatters, worried about offending the enemy with military lawyers starring over their backs and conanstantly being sent to meetings to study policical correctness, and also being called on the carpet when your mustaches outgows the Hitler mustache model all men must use to measure their mustache length..
or if their hair is longer than 1 inch. That is what the military hammered on the soldiers while I servered. the commands only quaked in t heir boots if they got caught with a stash that touched the corner of your mouth.

That was more important than winning wars..
that is why we lose wars. The command is so busy with dumb shit..
How about killing the bad guy!!!!
disgusting,,,,, real assholes are making us lose…
for you non-military people, that is what goes on,,, they hassle soldiers over BS, yet refuse to let them kill bad guys..
the rest of the world know this and kills us with impunity..

Signed, Disabled Veteran who is angry because our military is forced to fight with it’s hands tied behind it’s back because the command is more interested in political Ccorrectness.

retired on January 26, 2007 at 8:45 PM

Here is a lesson: Never surrender…kill as many as you can, before they kill you.

Tim Burton on January 27, 2007 at 2:20 PM

That was more important than winning wars..
that is why we lose wars. The command is so busy with dumb shit..
How about killing the bad guy!!!!
disgusting,,,,, real assholes are making us lose…
for you non-military people, that is what goes on,,, they hassle soldiers over BS, yet refuse to let them kill bad guys..
the rest of the world know this and kills us with impunity..

Signed, Disabled Veteran who is angry because our military is forced to fight with it’s hands tied behind it’s back because the command is more interested in political Ccorrectness.

retired on January 26, 2007 at 8:45 PM

Oh you mean like ?

Tim Burton on January 27, 2007 at 2:25 PM

Here is a lesson: Never surrender…kill as many as you can, before they kill you.

Tim Burton on January 27, 2007 at 2:20 PM

Amen!

Perhaps we could just pull our troops, unleash the nukes and turn the entire Middle East into a big litter box or blown glass sculpture and call it a day. We really won’t miss them.

Think of the resources we could save for minutes of effort!

Emmett J. on January 27, 2007 at 4:00 PM

Ironically, the left would condemn us for that.

They don’t like a war that minimizes casualties, they don’t like a war that is over in 15 minutes. You just can’t make them happy.

But 15 minute till the end of the war isn’t a bad idea. After all, this war with them has been going on for 1400 years.

Tim Burton on January 27, 2007 at 8:38 PM