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Jamilgate bombshell: E&P reporters parachute into Hurriya, verify AP “burning six” story

posted at 1:54 pm on January 26, 2007 by Allahpundit
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No no no, of course they didn’t. I’m being sarcastic to mark this, the fifth day since the boss broke the news about the AP’s bogus “torched” mosques report and the fifth day that E&P, whose interest in the story seemed so fervent when facts favorable to the AP emerged, has conspicuously failed to report it. The most recent search result for “malkin” at the E&P website is this story written by Greg Mitchell himself about Tony Snow’s interview with Hugh Hewitt. You can almost hear the sneer:

Seeking a sympathic audience yesterday, Snow visited conservative radio talker Hugh Hewitt, referring to him as a “friend.” He felt so relaxed in that setting that he went after media coverage of the war far harder than he would in the White House briefing room, and suggested that perhaps Michelle Malkin, now in Baghdad, might help save the day.

She didn’t save the day. She merely risked her own neck to determine whether the AP’s story about the destruction of four mosques by Shiite militias was true. It wasn’t. And odds are very, very good you’ll never see that fact reported in “the bible of the newspaper industry.”

E&P does have a story up today about the AP — namely, their scoop regarding the abduction of U.S. troops in Karbala, which contradicts earlier reports by the military. I blogged that one, too. Now I’m going to blog two more AP-related stories: Charles Johnson catching the AP politely declining to call a Hezbollah terrorist a terrorist, and Charles Johnson catching the AP very quietly backing away from its earlier reports about the two American contractors killed in the helicopter crash having been executed. No clarification or retraction, of course; aside from Reuters, that’s not how the big fish deal with their mistakes.

Exit question: We know E&P won’t mention the first of Charles’s catches since, almost certainly, they don’t consider Hezbollah “terrorists” either. Will they mention the second?

Update: It’s 1:56 ET as I write this. Who wants to bet me that this will be featured somewhere on E&P’s site before the day is through?

Update: I had trouble getting through to that Statesman page a second time, so here’s the text. The author is blogosphere fave Col. Austin Bay:

A columnist’s mea culpa

In a column that ran in the American-Statesman on Dec. 1, I wrote that I doubted that an Associated Press source for a story originating in Baghdad existed. The story involved an allegation that six Sunni Arabs were murdered and set on fire. It turns out the AP source not only existed but had a two-year track record. The AP answered the questions raised on the two Web sites my column quoted. The Iraqi Ministry of Interior later admitted that police Capt. Jamil Hussein did work for the ministry in Baghdad.

The AP and other wire services are the backbone of truth on this planet. “New media” such as blogs still lack the reporting capacity of the wire services and major news operations. I am delighted to apologize to the Associated Press and congratulate the AP’s Baghdad bureau for standing by their sources.

— Austin Bay

Emphasis mine. There’s no shame in apologizing here; I did it myself and was even quoted on it by E&P, as you’ll see if you follow the very first link in this post. But to call the AP the “backbone of truth on this planet” when they’ve gotten key facts wrong in this very story is embarrassing. I admire Col. Bay and respect his writing, but he’s way off base here.


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The story linked to the Update has the heading: “Michael Bay, National Security Specialist”. With all the time he spends directing big budget craptaculars, where does the guy find time to write about national security?

ReubenJCogburn on January 26, 2007 at 2:08 PM

No clarification or retraction, of course; aside from Reuters, that’s not how the big fish deal with their mistakes.

That’s because these are not “mistakes”. It’s part of a well-orchestrated plan of dis-information designed to weaken support for the “quagmire” in Iraq, well-orchestrated because it’s targeted to those who skim the headlines and move on to other stories – which includes most people.

But of course, we already knew that.

CliffHanger on January 26, 2007 at 2:09 PM

Michael Bay? Austin Bay? Who’s offering up the mea culpa in that last link?

GPE on January 26, 2007 at 2:11 PM

Austin Bay did not mention that the story of six Sunis being burned to death while Iraqi troops stood around and watched has been checked out and found to be without supporting facts.

Gotta keep those false or fabricated stories going, just like the phony papers about George W. Bush which were “fake, but accurate” from Dan Rather and his staff.

William

William2006 on January 26, 2007 at 2:20 PM

Evidence? We don’t need no stinking evidence.

There once was a man convinced he was dead. He informed his wife of this fact for weeks. She was so disturbed by his morbid pronouncement that she sought out the wisdom and help of emminent psychiatrists.

At first perplexed, the psychiatrists soon devised a thorough course of action to proof to the man he was not dead and that only living people bleed; only living people bleed; only living people bleed.

After many days of hearing lectures, watching videos, and reading medical books, the man reluctently conceded that only living people bleed; only living people bleed; only living people bleed.

Immediately upon this admission of fact, one of the psychiatrists grabbed onto the man’s hand, pricked him with a pin, and all watched as blood oozed out of the tiny wound.

Suddenly, the man jumped up excitedly and exclaimed, “GREAT SCOTT! DEAD PEOPLE BLEED TOO!!”

Up next: fake but accurate stories and ostrich immitations.

~Stay tuned to E&P

locomotivebreath1901 on January 26, 2007 at 2:22 PM

Here’s a video of the two helicopter victims (content warning). You can see holes in their heads (whether they were put there before or after death is not discernable.)

I think the AP may have just been CYAing.

Good Lt on January 26, 2007 at 2:27 PM

You need to click through a bit – use the FREE side.

Good Lt on January 26, 2007 at 2:33 PM

Seriously, I’m not just being over the top because of this week’s developments, we NEED to take down the AP. Period. There are plenty of problems with the liberal media, but this week more than ever it’s almost as if the AP isn’t even trying to hide their bias (one only need to skim through posts here at HA for the past few days).. But it’s literally a daily occurance that they AP knowingly flat out lies in its headlines, and often right down in their stories. Their libs write editorials and call them articles, and these are picked up by papers around the world. Etc. etc. etc.

Again, we can’t win any war with the state of the media today.

RightWinged on January 26, 2007 at 2:33 PM

We don’t need to “take down” anyone. We need them to be more responsible about their reporting.

Allahpundit on January 26, 2007 at 2:38 PM

We need them to be more responsible about their reporting

Agreed. AP is the largest news organization in the world. Even if you were successful in taking them down,” waht would be the result? Oddly are, a certain degree of blindness.

I’m all for the AP changing their methodologies, particularly as they pertain to combat-zone fact checking, but I don’t want them decimated.

Bob Owens on January 26, 2007 at 2:59 PM

They can not correct what they think is not wrong. Why would they say they were wrong when they think they are right? You, in their eyes, have proved nothing. They received a report from what they considered a reliable source, you say it is not. To them it is just a disagreement with a very small insignificant quasi-news blog. No one else of any consequence is picking up on this with any real intensity, so they will just let us blow off steam until it becomes boring. They will wait it out, they don’t care about anyone that can’t hurt them.
It is a shame, but that is what it is. They are not afraid of Hot Air. And they have convinced just as many people that it is much to do about nothing.

right2bright on January 26, 2007 at 3:01 PM

At this point, Mithcell is probably practicing his “Profiles in Courage Award” acceptance speech for standing up to those mean old bloggers.

JammieWearingFool on January 26, 2007 at 3:02 PM

Stop apologizing! “Iraqi Police Capt. Jamil Hussein” does not exist. It is a pseudonym that was not identified as such, which means it’s not true.

The Monster on January 26, 2007 at 3:13 PM

As one of the ‘we aint smart crowd’ I disagree with you Allah. AP does need to be taken down. Sitting around and yelling ‘fair-play’ isn’t going to work. Their BMWs need to go to auction. The media is in control of public opinion. They design western society to fit their progressive agenda.

My HS(barely) education betrays me as unworthy I guess. I don’t care. At AP there is no ‘reporting’, there is only manipulation.

Limerick on January 26, 2007 at 3:16 PM

I thought there was no “Capt. Jamil Hussein”. Last I knew, that was just an alias for Jamil Ghdaab Gulaim or Jamil Gulaim ‘XX’ or whatever his real name is. The Iraqi Ministry of the Interior didn’t confirm that “Jamil Hussein” exists, they confirmed to the AP that a person with a different name (Jamil Gulaim “XX”) exists, and the AP says this person is their source.

I don’t think the AP deserves an apology for the fact that their own breech of journalist ethics (using an alias without noting such) caused people to doubt the existance of their source. They compounded that breech by not being honest and telling the truth about the use of an alias as soon as questions about his existance began -leaving many to waste time and resources searching for a man who does not exist.

Its the AP who should be apologizing.

taznar on January 26, 2007 at 3:16 PM

Mixing a few metaphors, Austin Bay was politely holding the AP’s feet to the fire and tossing the ball back into their court. The AP would probably love to run his apology, but his saying:
“The AP and other wire services are the backbone of truth on this planet.” will never be acknowledged by the AP because the platitude is based on their honesty, and they (and everyone else) knows that they are being dishonest with their Jamil Hussein source. It’s like me saying that John Kerry is being a Statesman by bowing out of ‘08 early.

Doug on January 26, 2007 at 3:30 PM

I thought there was no “Capt. Jamil Hussein”. Last I knew, that was just an alias for Jamil Ghdaab Gulaim or Jamil Gulaim ‘XX’ or whatever his real name is. The Iraqi Ministry of the Interior didn’t confirm that “Jamil Hussein” exists, they confirmed to the AP that a person with a different name (Jamil Gulaim “XX”) exists, and the AP says this person is their source.

I don’t think the AP deserves an apology for the fact that their own breech of journalist ethics (using an alias without noting such) caused people to doubt the existance of their source. They compounded that breech by not being honest and telling the truth about the use of an alias as soon as questions about his existance began -leaving many to waste time and resources searching for a man who does not exist.

Its the AP who should be apologizing.

taznar on January 26, 2007 at 3:16 PM

Agree 100%. It would have been one thing had they produced a true “Jamil Hussein”. But neither did they do that nor were they forthcoming about the pseudonym until others forced their hand on the story. In other words, they created a set of circumstances where any reasonable mind would doubt them and could accuse them of using a non-existent “source” – particularly when the stories attributed thereto cannot be corroborated or are demonstrably false.

Nobody who doubted the A w/t P has anything to apologize for.

thirteen28 on January 26, 2007 at 3:45 PM

Why does Austin Bay hate America?

Enrique on January 26, 2007 at 3:52 PM

Why does enrique hate the truth ?

William Amos on January 26, 2007 at 4:24 PM

BTW why is AP News still quiting dead figures in their news stories. Give us sources AP else we need to treat all your stories as phoney.

William Amos on January 26, 2007 at 4:25 PM

Actually, Austin Bay retracted that, Allah. Link to his retraction.

Vanceone on January 26, 2007 at 4:45 PM

Sick’em Allah!

Drtuddle on January 26, 2007 at 5:20 PM

Wussie, Wussies……….what a bunch of …………

DoctorDentons on January 26, 2007 at 6:11 PM

During the cold war going back to childhood, I remember reading about Tass and Pravda in the USSR. I wondered if the people believed the lies they were being fed or if they just went with it reluctantly. A government controlled media is bad no doubt. A free media answers to who exactly? And how? The recent post about US, Iraqi army clash getting picked up and posted everywhere exposes the problem. Even if they retract it’s already been done. The affiliates can claim ignorance, and the democrats can officially call Iraq a civil war because six sunnis got torched. See how they do that? I might as well put on my fur hat and hammer back some vodka.

Buck Turgidson on January 26, 2007 at 9:50 PM

OT The history channel is doing “Dogfights of the Middle East” right now.

Buck Turgidson on January 26, 2007 at 10:03 PM

The Iraqi Ministry of Interior later admitted that police Capt. Jamil Hussein did work for the ministry in Baghdad.

Except he had a different name, and was nowhere near all of the locations he was “reporting” from.

B Moe on January 27, 2007 at 10:59 AM

By the way, has anyone seen the elusive Jamil yet?

Capitalist Infidel on January 27, 2007 at 3:47 PM

No.

Buck Turgidson on January 27, 2007 at 7:07 PM

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