Video: Pelosi’s daughter talks evangelical Christians on H&C Updated by Hot Air’s resident evangelical
posted at 11:43 am on January 25, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Tonight’s the night. Sounds like a humdinger.
The questions, rather than being confrontational, are inoffensive or, at best (or worst), gently mocking. Descending upon a Burger King parking lot full of souped-up cars – the staging area for a Georgia driving club called Cruisers for Christ – she asks drivers what sort of car Jesus might have driven.
I don’t much like the question, but I loved one answer: “He might have driven a Chrysler.”
She had hours and hours of footage to cull. Here’s a snippet of something that made the final 60-minute cut:
“You know all the surveys say that evangelicals have the best sex life of any other group,” [Ted] Haggard waggishly told a documentary filmmaker a few months before his secret came out. On “Friends of God: A Road Trip With Alexandra Pelosi,” which will be shown tonight on HBO, Mr. Haggard coaxes a member of his congregation to say how often he has sex with his wife (“Every day. Twice a day.”) and how often she climaxes (“Every time”).
You could almost see the wrathful lightning bolt striking down from the heavens.
Note the exchange with Hannity about agendas towards the end.
Update (Bryan): From a reader:
Native of Atlanta. Raised up in Lithia Springs (Ga.) First Baptist Church. Attended college in Alabama. Married a native of Crawford County, Ohio. Never lived north of Dalton, Ga., until I was 38 years old. Attend church regularly.
I am as Red-State Bible Belt as you could ask for… I had NEVER heard the expression “Hell’s Box Office” until I clicked on that video and saw Nancy Pelosi’s daughter say it on “H&C.”
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I am sick and tired of these ridiculous smears of the Religious Right. This is just a bunch of rich city slickers propagating stereotypes about country rubes. This betrays a prejudice that is about as “sophisticated” as “The Beverly Hillbillies.”
This experience is a lot like my own: Born and raised near Dallas. Southern Baptist since I was conscious. Never once in my life heard “Hell’s Box Office” before Alexandra Pelosi inflicted it on me in that clip. Not once.
Pelosi’s smear is similar to Andrew Sullivan’s “Christian Reconstructionists” nonsense. There might be 50 of those guys in the whole country, but Sullivan uses them to smear the other 20 to 50 million evangelicals even though we’ve never heard of them and those of us who have heard of them (through Sullivan’s rants) disagree with them. The Hell’s Box Office thing is probably the saying in one church where Pelosi happened to conduct her zoological research. It is certainly not a dominant meme in the hallowed halls of megachurches throughout these United States.
So basically, she’s full of it.
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I listened to this last night as I was driving home (on Sirius). She really has no concept of how condescending, sheltered and naive she sounds. These are fellow Americans she’s talking about, not Kalahari Bushmen. She might as well have been living under a rock as living in a Blue State, for all she gained from it.
Squid Vicious on January 25, 2007 at 11:46 AM
Joy Behar as a youngish woman.
benrand on January 25, 2007 at 11:50 AM
Are they talking about this guy?
WARNING: Strong language and will offend a lot of people. Click at your own risk and don’t say you weren’t warned.
thirteen28 on January 25, 2007 at 11:53 AM
She should sue her mother for parental neglect.
JammieWearingFool on January 25, 2007 at 11:59 AM
We’re again in need of a reformation.
PRCalDude on January 25, 2007 at 12:02 PM
Again, what’s “incredible” is that liberals truly believe that “christians” are the “enemy”. Not Islam, who would murder them all in a heartbeat, but the chistians. Perhaps this is because liberals know that the only real remaining threat to their goals of gaining complete power and turning the U.S. in their own private socialist “heaven”, where THEY set themselves up as little “gods” to decide for everyone else what is “right and wrong”, is the voting Christian right…
NRA4Freedom on January 25, 2007 at 12:03 PM
Strong argument for abortion
Wade on January 25, 2007 at 12:03 PM
I’m not defending Pelosi in particular because I haven’t seen the documentary, but most documentary filmmakers take a distant approach to their subjects and examine them from afar whether they are insects or neighbors. Speaking about her subjects as if they are just that, subjects, is less a form of condescension than it is a filmmaking technique. I understand how it comes across as elitist and naive, especially in this particular situation, but it’s more a reflection of the genre than the person.
JaHerer22 on January 25, 2007 at 12:08 PM
Liberals’ agendas are not to be questioned.
CP on January 25, 2007 at 12:08 PM
Although they bot bug me, the fact that she prefers to “look over here” at Colmes shows that she is mad,Mad I tell you. Maybe it’s just a genetic thing that she prefers the Skeletor/processed human look.
bbz123 on January 25, 2007 at 12:14 PM
Huh?
JaHerer22 on January 25, 2007 at 12:17 PM
Agenda! What agenda? OK, young lady, we’ll all just assume there was no agenda. R-i-g-h-t.
MCPO Airdale on January 25, 2007 at 12:17 PM
I liked Alexandra’s first doc and I plan to watch the new one. Rabbi Daniel Lapin agrees:
[SNIP] Ancient Jewish wisdom’s defines greatness as the ability to rise above one’s inclinations and to conquer one’s natural instincts. I don’t know Alexandra Pelosi’s inclinations and natural instincts, but given her family, friends, and upbringing, it seems likely that she has achieved this, not once but twice. Her first film revealed the President to be a warm and likable person while her second, she admits, has made her rethink her views on religion and the church.
Alexandra Pelosi spent her childhood in progressive Catholic schools. She says that she and her fellow students were taught just to accept people. She doesn’t remember ever being told at Convent of the Sacred Heart that homosexuality was wrong. “They never even told us there was anything wrong with abortion,” she says. She now speaks publicly of making sure that her young son grows up attending church regularly. She plans to baptize him soon.
None of this could have been easy for someone with her Democratic Party pedigree. Her maternal grandfather, former Baltimore mayor and Maryland congressman, Thomas D’Alesandro Jr., would not have faulted her warm depiction of America’s Evangelical community. Even a generation ago, being closely connected with a traditional church was considered normative for both parties. But the Democratic Party has changed. Today, the party her family is associated with is far closer to being the party of atheism; the party that advocates aggressive secularism as the best public policy.
Hence, she is seen as betraying that party. The San Francisco Chronicle reports that Anti-Bush critics ripped her after “Journeys with George” came out for portraying the president as charming and benign, making him seem more palatable, and thus re-electable. She had to have known that the world in which she lives would not welcome her new documentary which is even more honest and complimentary about American conservative Christianity than her first film was about President Bush. [END SNIP]
I recommend reading the whole thing before following Hannity’s lead on this one:
Pelosi is Terrific. No, Not That One!
http://www.towardtradition.org/index.cfm?PAGE_ID=350
Salabama on January 25, 2007 at 12:18 PM
Bah-dum-ching!
Savage on January 25, 2007 at 12:19 PM
Jesus Chrysler drives a Dodge.
Jim Treacher on January 25, 2007 at 12:22 PM
I just watched this segment. (DVRed it) She comes across as arrogant as her mother, and as out of touch.
CrimsonFisted on January 25, 2007 at 12:28 PM
Funny how it’s not mentioned that most evangelicals (Those in positions of authority; like preachers, teachers, and the like) don’t tell you what party to vote for and not to vote a party line, but rather to check what politicians are saying, doing, and wanting, to what The Bible teaches.
- The Cat
P.S. “That wasn’t my agenda.” hehe step in it much?
MirCat on January 25, 2007 at 12:29 PM
Ladies and gentlemen you are looking at a future Press Secretary.
Limerick on January 25, 2007 at 12:30 PM
When you consider that this “documentary” is aimed at her progressive “pals” who already support her biased view of these people, this “documentary” would seem to amount to a waste of time. Why even make it? Ego?
Malpaso on January 25, 2007 at 12:31 PM
I enjoyed Alexandra’s first doc and I am eager to watch the second one. Rabbi Daniel Lappin has an interesting column about it:
[SNIP] Ancient Jewish wisdom’s defines greatness as the ability to rise above one’s inclinations and to conquer one’s natural instincts. I don’t know Alexandra Pelosi’s inclinations and natural instincts, but given her family, friends, and upbringing, it seems likely that she has achieved this, not once but twice. Her first film revealed the President to be a warm and likable person while her second, she admits, has made her rethink her views on religion and the church.
Alexandra Pelosi spent her childhood in progressive Catholic schools. She says that she and her fellow students were taught just to accept people. She doesn’t remember ever being told at Convent of the Sacred Heart that homosexuality was wrong. “They never even told us there was anything wrong with abortion,” she says. She now speaks publicly of making sure that her young son grows up attending church regularly. She plans to baptize him soon.
None of this could have been easy for someone with her Democratic Party pedigree. Her maternal grandfather, former Baltimore mayor and Maryland congressman, Thomas D’Alesandro Jr., would not have faulted her warm depiction of America’s Evangelical community. Even a generation ago, being closely connected with a traditional church was considered normative for both parties. But the Democratic Party has changed. Today, the party her family is associated with is far closer to being the party of atheism; the party that advocates aggressive secularism as the best public policy.
Hence, she is seen as betraying that party. The San Francisco Chronicle reports that Anti-Bush critics ripped her after “Journeys with George” came out for portraying the president as charming and benign, making him seem more palatable, and thus re-electable. She had to have known that the world in which she lives would not welcome her new documentary which is even more honest and complimentary about American conservative Christianity than her first film was about President Bush. [END SNIP]
I recommend reading the whole thing before jerking a knee:
Pelosi is Terrific. No, Not That One!
http://www.towardtradition.org/index.cfm?PAGE_ID=350
Salabama on January 25, 2007 at 12:32 PM
Cuter, though. In a “Lisa Loeb girl with funky glasses” kind of way.
Slublog on January 25, 2007 at 12:33 PM
My freakin head’s going to explode. If her mother wasn’t (gag me with a spoon) Speaker of the House, she’d be just another stupid kid with a film degree, living off her family, with a camera shooting homeless people in NO!
I really fault Hannity for giving this airhead airtime! Who the hell gives a crap what she thinks and what’s wrong with Christian Bowling anyway? If it was Muslim Bowling its OK! But Christian Bowling…OH NO!!!
Hey Alexandra, wasn’t that your mother is saw in church. A Christian Church! Singing Christian Music! Talking to Christians, Putting a donation in the Christian Church Basket!
Make me so GD mad!!! Can I call someone a slut on here?
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on January 25, 2007 at 12:35 PM
His WIFE? OMFG… How Inconceveable! A woman he is MARRIED AND FAITHFUL to?
/sarc
Mazztek on January 25, 2007 at 12:40 PM
What Would Jesus Drive?
On “Rescue Me”, Jesus drove a yellow Ferarri.
Mazztek on January 25, 2007 at 12:41 PM
We got it the first time. Are you her PR or something?
Esthier on January 25, 2007 at 12:49 PM
It’s a joke.
Esthier on January 25, 2007 at 12:50 PM
You and I must have a pretty different definition of faithful. If my girlfriend was blowing meth and having sex with gay man-whores I think I’d consider that “unfaithful”.
JaHerer22 on January 25, 2007 at 12:52 PM
Re: The byline ..
Dylan, Berlin, Bay of Pigs invasion.
Ian on January 25, 2007 at 12:54 PM
It wasn’t talking about Ted. Ted was only asking the question of a married man who went to his church.
Esthier on January 25, 2007 at 12:57 PM
Hannity seemed quite taken with her. Oddly so.
honora on January 25, 2007 at 1:07 PM
She probably does. I mean, wouldn’t you be condescending if you just spent a bunch of time filming adults who still believe in Santa Claus? It’s got to be frustrating for her to deal with all these seemingly sensible people that put such a premium on accepting this Jesus character as their “personal savior.”
From what I’ve read, this Jesus fellow was unemployed, and spent a significant part of his young adulthood luring impressionable young men to leave their families and follow him. And when he wasn’t horsing around with his apostles, he was preaching to uneducated, impoverished crowds about God’s love and whatnot. If we ran into Jesus today, we’d recognize him as a well-meaning but disturbed individual who takes advantage of vulnerable people. We sure as hell wouldn’t be lining up to make him our personal savior.
By the way, does anyone else thinks it’s weird that Jesus mostly hung around these 12 young guys whom he compelled to follow him and love him more than their own families? And if that isn’t weird, doesn’t it explain why Andrew Sullivan still unironically claims to be a committed Catholic?
I don’t want to draw rolled eyes, but think about it.
Enrique on January 25, 2007 at 1:12 PM
She only came on H&C to promote her movie. She almost survived it without revealing her san francisco values, until the “agenda” comment spewed forth from that sewer she calls her mouth.
csdeven on January 25, 2007 at 1:13 PM
The agenda exchange was priceless.
NTWR on January 25, 2007 at 1:15 PM
Again, what’s “incredible” is that liberals truly believe that “christians” are the “enemy”.
To paraphrase Lileks, it’s because they look like Mom and Dad.
CrankyNeocon on January 25, 2007 at 1:17 PM
Enrique,
What did the Catholic church do to you to make you so bitter?
Which Bible are you reading? He preached on repentance and salvation. He preached not only to the poor and uneducated, but also the “scribes and Pharisees” and the “teachers of the Law.” So, he preached to the educated also. Moreover, he was employed as a carpenter until he began his ministry at about the age of 30. I doubt you’ve sufficiently wrestled with the historicity of Jesus and the claims Jesus made about himself. Like he said “Before Abraham was, I AM.”
PRCalDude on January 25, 2007 at 1:20 PM
I finally watched the clip.
What a condecending little P.O.S. Pelosi is. I wanted to slap her. I think her mom’s power went to HER head.
(Oh, I just realized which Ted that was, too. hmmff..)
Mazztek on January 25, 2007 at 1:27 PM
Since Enrique wasn’t there, he has nothing but faith in his prejudices to feed his hatred of religion and religious persons.
Back on topic….it occured to me that Pelosi might be attempting what Bob Woodward did with his books on Bush. He complimented him in order to gain cred with conservatives and then did a hit piece, thinking that they could not back up on him.
If my opinion about Alexandra proves to be prophetic, I want one segment of airtime on Bill O. Which I will promptly give to MM so she can get more than airtime than 1 minute.
csdeven on January 25, 2007 at 1:37 PM
“That wasn’t my agenda…”
“So, you’re saying you did have an agenda…”
“Of course I did NOT have an agenda…”
Mommy taught her well!
jjjen on January 25, 2007 at 1:39 PM
Hannity: “[Christian groups] do a lot of good. Did you show that side of this?”
Pelosi: “That wasn’t the agenda here.”
… of course it wasn’t.
I find it to be another strange paradox among Democrats that they mock the Christian community for feeling like an ostracized minority while simultaneously ostracizing them; mocking Christians for feeling like they’re under attack while simultaneously attacking them. Like many Democratic arguments these days, it seems as if they wish to attack others’ beliefs but are indignant – even surprised – that people might want to defend them.
Lehosh on January 25, 2007 at 1:39 PM
Another child of wealth and privilege mocking working people. She’s a true child of the Democrat party.
Umm….Slu?
billy on January 25, 2007 at 1:50 PM
Pelosi’s daughter came off in the interview as an extremely sheltered child.
I wonder if she can pump her own gas.
After dealing with New Yorkers and New Jersey-ites, I have determined that having the technical skill required to place a tube into a hole and squeeze a valve is the difinitive test to determine whether a person is sheltered beyond all repair.
Her reaction was fear. Fear of Hannity?
Come on. How scared can you be of Hannity when you’ve got “Severus Snape Light” (Alan) sitting to your side.
It was like she thought he was going to eat her liver with some Fava beans, or challenge her to a quick draw duel… DRAW!
Because you know all those conservatives are well armed. [/sarcasm]
As somone from a semi-rural region I wish I had the time to make a documentrary about “Sheltered city-folk”… You know the kind that pull over and take pictures if they see an Amish buggy, or think that people in the country “tip cows”
BWA HA HA HA. yeah, city-girl. you go out into that field and push on that cow. (Hmmm, forgot to tell her to watch her step, heh heh heh.)
The only people stupid enough to go into a field of manure in the middle of the night to try and push on a ton of uncooked beef, are city people that just don’t have a clue.
Her VW Jetta’d probably roll over easier. (And you KNOW, all those sheltered city girls drive VWs…. I really don’t know why though.)
BWA HA HA HA HA HA
I’m having too much fun with this. I’ve been to nearly every major city on the East coast, and when I come back home, I’m always shocked at how well my local government and legal system runs by comparison.
blue state girl in a red state world indeed.
BWA HA HA HA HA HA
Jones Zemkophill on January 25, 2007 at 1:51 PM
I just calls ‘em like I sees ‘em. Something about those glasses is just inherently cute.
Slublog on January 25, 2007 at 1:55 PM
Enrique,
I think that you put on eyeglasses with sodomite lenses when you look at Jesus’ life. That is a popular technique of the soi-disant hipsters. An example in my town was a radio host who saw gayness in a particular cartoon, i.e. Jonny Quest. Oooooh, look at the shirt Race was wearing. Oooooh, Dr. Quest needed a big, strong, blonde man to protect him. Oooooh. That’s exactly what you are doing to Jesus. Oooooh, look at Jesus, he hangs around twelve other guys all the time. Oooooh.
When you meet Him someday in eternity, may He have mercy on your poor benighted soul.
archon2001 on January 25, 2007 at 1:55 PM
I’d hit it.
I wouldn’t enjoy it, but I still hit it.
natesnake on January 25, 2007 at 2:00 PM
Well, she does sort of have the “Cute emo-chick” thing going on… I think a different hairstyle would suit her better.
With shorter hair she’d be less “Hippie’s kid” and more “Tech-girl”
Jones Zemkophill on January 25, 2007 at 2:14 PM
They weren’t all young guys. That’s just something you’ve made up here. And for the time period, it really wouldn’t make any sense if women began following him, because they’d get a reputation as a whore, which is why the few women who were close to Jesus had actually been whores.
You’re not drawing a rolled eye from me. You’re simply drawing my disgust. God forgives all insults, but I’m not God.
And really, everyone has to believe something. Either you trust in what you believe is reality and science, both of which constantly change before your own eyes, or you just in something that’s lasted thousands of years despite intense persecution (which by the way, was the test one authority figure gave Christianity).
If nailing Peter to a tree didn’t harm Christians, words from people like you won’t either. Afterall, I don’t remember asking for validation from you about my “Santa” worship and neither did the people in this film.
Esthier on January 25, 2007 at 2:16 PM
More Christan bashing from the left. And no “agenda”? Sean should have tore her up one side and down the other. But as someone else pointed out he seemed oddly take by this POS.
Well at least she didn’t run a “have a fu@king Christmas” cartoon Ian. That was one pathetic posting showing pure lack of character and respect toward Christians on their most Holy day. You lost all respect with that post.
Timber Wolf on January 25, 2007 at 2:20 PM
I’m actually looking forward to seeing her film. It may make me laugh or it may launch me into a rage. Either way, it should get some emotions stirring.
natesnake on January 25, 2007 at 2:20 PM
I will say this in defense of her. She’s completely right about why Christians have their own music, television programs and all other sorts of entertainment.
Not only is it that the secular media doesn’t represent or speak to Christians but also that it’s moved even further to the point where it can be harmful for Christians.
With Christian entertainment, Christians are given a morally safe alternative.
Esthier on January 25, 2007 at 2:25 PM
No… Here’s the video…
Mazztek on January 25, 2007 at 2:27 PM
“That wasn’t part of the agenda”
Ooooops. Removing foot from mouth. Not quite ready for the big leagues now are we. Yikes.
Zetterson on January 25, 2007 at 2:29 PM
she: That wasn’t the agenda.
he: so you had an agenda?
she: you’re putting words in my mouth!
he: ~quietly lets her off the hook~
Hannity must’ve been holding back in hopes that Nancypalooza would come on his show.
jdpaz on January 25, 2007 at 2:35 PM
“I feel like the monkey in the middle here”. ha!
csdeven on January 25, 2007 at 2:41 PM
If only Ms. Pelosi would turn her camera on her mother and the people of San Francisco. It’s a lovely town, but chock full of the “fruits and nuts” for which California is internationally famous.
I still recall one of my first visits to the city. My wife and I were walking down the block toward the trolley turntable when a man appeared from around the corner. It was noon and he was wearing a tutu and a leotard.
I don’t know for sure, but I suspect he was a secular progressive.
John on January 25, 2007 at 2:46 PM
To Enrique, and anyone else who may be interested: If you have not done so yet, pick up a copy of “The Case for Christ”, by Lee Strobel. I’m guessing it’s available at your local bookstore, or you can order it online at Christianbook.com or Amazon.com if you like. It makes a great case for historic and evidential Christ.
BNCurtis on January 25, 2007 at 3:08 PM
I’ve said it before and I’ll keep saying it again and again…
If liberal-thinking folks find The Bible Belt to be so scary and oppressive, then why do Americans continue to move there in such mass numbers?
I mean…why would they want to live in JesusLand?
The Ugly American on January 25, 2007 at 3:25 PM
It is truly funny listening to liberals in this thread defend the tone and attitude Pelosi adopted.
Just imagine the opposite happening – imagine a far right evangelical conservative who’d never left Kansas creating a documentary on atheistic “progressives” in Berkeley or SoHo. Following them as they get naked and march in support of medical marijuana, as they gather to torch a flag and burn Bush in effigy … whatever.
Now imagine this film makers takes that same tone and approach, treats his liberal subjects like they are a foriegn tribe or aliens from a distant planet.
Imagine that film maker then goes on every television show in the country, showing clips and gasping breathlessly and excitedly about the bizarre things he’d seen.
What EXACTLY do you think would be the liberal response? Would they be laughing as hard as I am if I spewed some silliness about “keeping distance from their subject?”
Too funny. Yet again, prove that liberalism requires a level of cognitive dissonance most of us can’t even imagine.
Professor Blather on January 25, 2007 at 3:26 PM
What would Jesus drive? Are you kidding?
B Moe on January 25, 2007 at 3:31 PM
I nominate this as the most disturbing comment of this thread.
Just one thing, Slu — are you attracted to Rosie O’Donnell as well?
CyberCipher on January 25, 2007 at 4:14 PM
Two things stuck me about this clip. First is that Hannity will kiss anyones a$$ to get Pelosi on the show. The second is when he just mentioned the good that Christians do, she immediatly went on the attack “look at you…”.
I have asked this question many times, and still no answer. How many hospitals, relief organizations, higher education schools have been built by athesists or agnostics?
Many times the first on the scene to help in a disaster is church related.
I have never seen a secular organization counsel people through a tragedy. The secular world sits on the sidelines and complains about the doers, while doing nothing themselves.
right2bright on January 25, 2007 at 4:20 PM
I eagerly await her next documentary on the Muslim faith where we find What kind of car would Moehamhead drive? And of course we get some actual video footage from inside some of their mosques complete with the wonderful boamb making er architecure.
LakeRuins on January 25, 2007 at 4:20 PM
Dude.
You cut me deep, Cipher.
Slublog on January 25, 2007 at 4:25 PM
Jesus was asked why he was hanging around with all the low-lifes and he replied that he came to save the sinners, not the righteous.
Problem these days, with Leftie culture, no one thinks they are sinners, “We’re all good people!” Would have a far more rewarding day spent discussing and debating sin and redemption with a pagan idol-worshipper than a Leftie Liberal. The idol-worshipper holds a deep understanding that sin exists and makes offerings to pay for it. Therefore he or she would be a spirited, willing and informed debater on the subject, but the Liberal had been led to believe that sin is a mean and nasty concept – psychotherapy is their treatment – so tends to become hostile and aggressive and most unwilling to debate the subject. Jesus was crucified on the urgings of the power elites, upsetting the old apple cart, speaking Truth. Not truth to power, but Truth.
That the Left uses every venue to mock and belittle Christians should be no surprise at all. Scares people away from investigating further, lest they be labelled, “Stupid.”
naliaka on January 25, 2007 at 4:29 PM
Politics is the religion of the left. The fundamental lefties are not very different from fundamental Islamics in that nothing matters but seizing power and maintaining power.
LakeRuins on January 25, 2007 at 4:41 PM
Most revealing quote, by far:
“They don’t just care about gay marriage and abortion. They care about the war, the environment, stuff everybody cares about.”
Worth just about an eye-roll.
Anwyn on January 25, 2007 at 5:27 PM
Sorry guys, I think she is a two-bagger. One to put over her head and one to puke in.
csdeven on January 25, 2007 at 5:37 PM
What a twit this young person is. Christians look down on people like her and here she thinks she’s the all wise one. Pathetic. Christians are secure in what they believe or they wouldn’t be Christians. So these kind of documentaries only drive people of faith even deeper into their convictions because they see people like her as ignorant and totally uniformed.
Rose on January 25, 2007 at 5:51 PM
If she really wanted to make a cutting edge documentary about religious people, why didn’t she find out what American Muslims think about the jihadists and the islamo-fascists who are highjacking their religion. Why not delve into a more topical subject like that. The answer is she would not be able to establish her lib street cred with such a film. It is easier to show “what yahoos Christians are.” Yawn.
Her stunned reaction to Sean asking if she showed the good that Christians and churches do told me everything I need to know about her and her film. I was in Mississippi after Katrina doing insurance claim work. The people we ran into helping locals recover were church volunteers from around the country. How about a film about the church’s reaction to Katrina?
Nice to see she was wearing her “smart glasses,” just like Katie.
Mallard T. Drake on January 25, 2007 at 5:57 PM
Amen!
right2bright on January 25, 2007 at 6:10 PM
ugh… glad it’s not just me. I thought the same exact thing when I heard “Hell’s Box Office”… granted I wasn’t born and raised in the “Bible Belt”, but I did live down there for 5 years and in no other place in my life have I ever heard of that. I submit that it was probably said by an extremist, though not used regularly… something that was probably spontaneously thought up to perform for the cameras, and of course Pelosi ran with it.
And yes, the exchange at the end with Hannity reveals what anyone with an ounce of common sense already knew about this crockumentary.
RightWinged on January 25, 2007 at 6:18 PM
I was raised near Houston and now live in Dallas. My parents became Christians when I was very young. I went to a Christian private school and spent half my life in a Southern Baptist church.
I agree. This term was entirely forign to me before hearing her say it.
On a side note, the real hard-core Christians I know don’t even own TVs, let alone bother about one premium cable station. My parents (who weren’t completely hard-core) even refused to get basic cable until I graduated high school.
Esthier on January 25, 2007 at 6:22 PM
Mallard: “Stunned” is dead on. You could almost see the thought running through her head – “he thinks Christians are capable of doing good?!“
mikeomatic on January 25, 2007 at 6:23 PM
I don’t subscribe to HBO. The last time I saw anything on HBO was years ago, probably in a hotel room. Is it still relevant? Is there any real status with having something aired on HBO? just asking…..
Mallard T. Drake on January 25, 2007 at 6:27 PM
I think that what these documentary makers do is look for the most extreme or most fringe of the group and then try to present them as the “norm”. I also dislike her attitude, which I knew what it’s called when someone presents his or her point of view as being automatically right and commonly accepted, but anyway, I also think she is condescending and obnoxious. But hey the show is on HBO and I don’t subscribe to HBO, Showtime or Cinemax. When I did have those channels, all it took was 5 minutes of watching The Sopranos, Queer as Folk or Sex and the City to become totally depressed, demoralized and offended. I couldn’t be entertained by the violence, vulgarity and perversion.
She can mock us all she wants, she’s only “preaching to the choir” (Godless liberals).
CCRWM on January 25, 2007 at 6:27 PM
My take was she realized she was caught red-handed. In the time she spent time with these “subjects” she would have seen their generosity and the mission work that they do and how they try to help others. She knows that they do good, but she chose not to include it in her film….didn’t fit her agenda.
I think she realized she had been nailed and was trying to figure out how to get out of that spot. I think Sean realized he nailed here (not in the Biblical sense ;-) and just let her squirm rather than go for the kill.
Mallard T. Drake on January 25, 2007 at 6:32 PM
You know one of our children was born in a Baptist hospital, my husband was treated for a possible heart attack in a Catholic hospital and the city also had a Methodist and another hospital called St. Luke’s (I don’t know who had started that one).
Churches were sending help to us in Florida as well after hurricanes. One local church was serving free dinners.
She needs to do just a wee bit more research to smash some of those stereotypes.
INC on January 25, 2007 at 6:34 PM
The first hospitals ever established were Christian organizations.
Mallard T. Drake on January 25, 2007 at 6:44 PM
That would be nice, because I can tell you, here in New Orleans, in spite of the fact that the Feds approved the money over a year ago, almost none has been disbursed to the people who need it. Our local pols (mostly Democrats) have been holding it up. Almost all the progress here has been because of church volunteers from all over the country, insurance payouts, loans and savings.
But Pelosi would never make that film, because, Jeebus! You know those Christers (or Christianists) are “poor, uneducated, and easy to command.”
Laura on January 25, 2007 at 6:55 PM
Ditto for me on “Hell’s Box Office.” Never once heard it. Born in Alabam, raised in North Carolina, schooled in Georgia.
marykatharine on January 25, 2007 at 7:36 PM
Yes, she does.
And that’s the sad truth of all this.
Lawrence on January 25, 2007 at 7:38 PM
Hell’s Box Office?
I too grew up in the Bible Belt – Oklahoma City. Born in Texas. Travelled all over courtesy of the Army. Grew up in a SOUTHERN BAPTIST Church. Can count the number of times I missed church on two hands from the time I was born to the time I joined the Army. I currently live in Tennessee. I currently attend a SOUTHERN BAPTIST Church.
I have NEVER heard that term either – from anyone.
armyvet on January 25, 2007 at 7:52 PM
Hey, we all have our moments.
Enrique on January 25, 2007 at 8:06 PM
Even if she had heard the term “Hell’s Box Office”, she automatically discounts the possibility that an evangelical was using it ironically or as part of a self-deprecating joke.
Because she thinks they’re morons.
see-dubya on January 25, 2007 at 8:15 PM
It’s just that when WE have our moments it is not using a misleading example to mis-portray the subject of a documentary that will be broadcast on national TV. And to do it so enthusiastically.
Mallard T. Drake on January 25, 2007 at 8:26 PM
Count me in as a 20-year Southern Baptist and was raised under another denomination but not once heard this “hell’s box office” thing until this video. As for Katrina relief, one story that I never saw anywhere was how the Southern Baptist Disaster Relief program was one of the first on the scene to help. They are often at disasters before the Red Cross. Maybe they discussed it on HBO…hmmmmmm…..
Centurion68 on January 25, 2007 at 8:27 PM
Born in Atlanta, baptized in Missouri, raised in Kentucky, went to school in Arkansas, went to Church in Texas, married a Christian from South Carolina, currently live in Tennessee and go to church in West Virginia. Never ONCE heard the phrase.
Alex K on January 25, 2007 at 8:27 PM
Her film is just another thinly veiled attack on Christians from the far left loonies. She is a condescending secular progressive who masks her “zoological research” as a documentary. During the Hannity appearance she even referred to National Geographic… pity her, pray for her (and her mother).
Zorro on January 25, 2007 at 8:46 PM
Centurion, I am delighted to hear it!
I was raised a Southern Baptist here in Dallas, became an Episcopalian and have since left the Episcopal Church over their latest doctrinal mistakes, but I’m thinking of going back to the Baptists.
Never heard of “Hell’s Box Office” but it has a certain ring to it given the dreadful films Hollyweird has been cranking out of late!
Anyway, I gave money to Samaritan’s Purse, run by Billy Graham’s son, for Hurricane Katrina relief, figuring that Baptists had a strong presence in Louisiana and Missippi and would get the help needed to the people.
Glad to hear that was the case–Praise the Lord!
Jen the Neocon on January 25, 2007 at 9:28 PM
Having a lot more sympathy for the Yanamamo … no the word would be empathy. Actually, they were treated with more cultural respect than this woman gave her fellow countrymen and women.
naliaka on January 25, 2007 at 10:05 PM
Yup. No doubt in my mind, anyhow.
Pelosi the younger is messed up.
My “ATITUDE” radar “went off” with this young woman (loud and clear) when I watched the interview on H&C.
Alexandra Pelosi = Michael Moore,
…sent to charm school,
…and Jenny Craig,
…and a with a gender change operation,
…(okay, so an “Extreme Makeover” was probably required).
I suppose a “male chauvinist pig” might try to make the argument that this little “lady” would have turned out differently if Nancy had been home to raise her children proper-like, instead of pursuing a career that led to her current position as Speaker of the House. It’d be a lousy argument. I’m betting that if Nancy had been home more, Alexandra would have been even MORE messed up than she is now.
CyberCipher on January 25, 2007 at 10:07 PM
Just for the record, I give my money to the Luthern World Relief. Over 95% of the money goes to assistance, the 5% is for administration expenses. They recieved an “A” rating for transparency and a 5 star rating from Ministry Watch The good news is they receive matching funds for many projects from Luthern Services which drops that 5% even lower.
Let’s see the secular progressives relief organizations meet those standards. If you could find such a thing.
right2bright on January 25, 2007 at 10:17 PM
I talked with my cousin in Mobile, AL, who left the Catholic church to marry her Baptist Deacon husband. I asked about “Hells Box Office” & she said that she never heard of it and that people were discussing it at her work today and none of them had either. BTW, I’m not sure what Catholic School she attended as I’ve never heard of a “progessive Catholic school that says abortion is okay”, but the one I attended in NW IN did teach that we should love everyone but no one ever said abortion was okay. I remember they discussed that most people were born with whatever sexual preference they had and that we should respect everyone but no forcing of gay marriage was put down my throat. I defintely remember a group of people who went every year to DC for the March for Life from my school. That sure was encouraged. I think she’s a self-centered, spoiled little brat who wouldn’t be anywhere if her mother wasn’t Nancy Pelosi. I do know she got kicked off of John Kerry’s campaign plane in 2004 when she was doing her “documentary” on that election.
Catie96706 on January 25, 2007 at 10:30 PM
In another post, you said you hated church from the time you were a child. Presumably everything you read or write about Christianity is through this lens. You take absurd pot shots and demonstrate no clear understanding of the context of the items you refer to. Anyone can make a straw man and knock it down.
Several people have replied to your post and you have not responded. Why the hit and run? I am wondering if you are not interested in debate but are just trying to ruffle the feathers of a group you obviously, for whatever reason, disdain.
jman on January 25, 2007 at 10:32 PM
So she works for HBO who cares? But no, we christians are against her. Whatever…whatever your name is. I resent the implication that the faithful are hostile to mature themes in TV & Film. Like we’re children whose tender ears can’t be offended. So we’re after her. Get over yourself. It’s not that we object to this or that. We just don’t like crap. I’ve commented on how great Deadwood is more than once. So don’t paint us as prudes while pursuing your agenda.
Buck Turgidson on January 25, 2007 at 10:47 PM
HBO=Hells Box Office?
Lets see….yep I’m in Texas.
Lets see….yep it is a red state.
Lets see….yep Comcast and Time Warner offer it.
Lets see….Nope, my pastor never said anything about it.
Guess she is right.
Limerick on January 25, 2007 at 10:51 PM
Buck, Right on!
I love the Sopranos myself, even though it’s completely venal (and boy! Do they cuss on there? Fuggedaboutit!), but other than that, HBO is a real cesspool most of the time, but I’m keeping my cable.
I’ve found that with the spate of crap from today’s Hollyweird, I keep it on Turner Classic Movies most of the time.
And then there’s the Military Channel…Hooah!
Jen the Neocon on January 25, 2007 at 10:55 PM
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