Pelosi’s daughter’s movie about evangelical Christians to debut tomorrow night
posted at 5:33 pm on January 24, 2007 by Allahpundit
When last we met Alexandra Pelosi, she was filming George W. Bush’s run for the presidency in 2000 and marking her absentee ballot — on camera — for Bill Bradley, presumably because the Gorebot wasn’t far enough left. She returns tomorrow night at 9 on HBO with the documentary “Friends of God.”
The reviews are starting to come in. Consider this your Tivo alert.
[T]he parts of the film that were most troubling were not about abortion or gay marriage or even the incredibly pathetic attacks on evolution. Rather, it was the willingness of evangelicals, young and old, to accept as figurative and literal gospel anything and everything fed to them by authority figures. They appear as automatons, unable or unwilling to question the pronouncements of their leaders.
Also difficult to watch were those who, despite having elected a born-again president and established giant radio and TV networks and a political power base second to none, still feel they are a persecuted minority. If Pelosi’s intent is to show that evangelical faith suffocates reason, the point is well-made.
Think mom will get any questions about this next week? We know from the left vis-a-vis Bush’s daughters that parents are accountable for their adult children’s decisions. And they’ve got a point: how awful is it that Barbara and Jenna are cooling their heels here at home while Silver Star winner Rick Ellensburg “Duke” Greenwald is, as we speak, leading midnight raids on Taliban redoubts outside Kandahar?
I hope our Christian readers will tune in. If we get enough reaction, I’ll open a thread on it tomorrow night.
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Substitute the evangelical word for liberals, and tell me that isn’t exactly what they do. THe politburo speaks, gives out the slogans and the rest of the people speak
Defector01 on January 24, 2007 at 5:41 PM
pretty freakin’ sneaky of them automatons.
jdpaz on January 24, 2007 at 5:42 PM
I’m eagerly awaiting her expose on the tinfoil hat brigades. Oh wait…
Iblis on January 24, 2007 at 5:44 PM
Her movie on Bush wasn’t too bad, except for her (unintentionally) humorous non-comprehension as to Bush’s mere normalcy for, you know, a Retuhuglican born-again reproductive-rights-Nazi evangelical, let alone his doomed-to-fail run for President.
Bush came across as very down to earth and easy going, and even funny. In a David Letterman sort of way, I guess.
I think the people who make these movies view the subject matter as a zoologist might view animals in the wild.
Neo on January 24, 2007 at 5:44 PM
Heh.
Jaibones on January 24, 2007 at 5:55 PM
You mean those unthinking automaton Evangelicals like Pascal, Descartes, Newton, C.S. Lewis, Madame Curie, John Locke, and on and on and on. Oh yah, those guys.
Nancy Dearest knows best.
Mojave Mark on January 24, 2007 at 5:57 PM
Yeah right, vote for bush is written in the bible. Maybe, the whole point is about not being opened-minded, which can be called living by polls–living in denial. Maybe, as Hollywood advocates, a one night stand can lighten us up and open our eyes to the real world. What about pro-choice? People ought to choose, not in this case. You don’t have to touch a fire to know that it is hot given an educated advice. Attempting it is probably a good experiment. To accept certain risk is to accept its consequences even if one is not aware of the consequences. You can’t eat your cake, and have it. Christian have choosen a way of life. Is it not egocentric to mock their choice. I will wait for the film to complete my shabby thoughts.
Ouabam on January 24, 2007 at 5:59 PM
Pelosi’s kid followed the Dem primary candidates in 2004. HBO has a preview for it. I don’t remember it being as good as her first film, but that was probably due to the cast.
rw on January 24, 2007 at 6:02 PM
As one of the resident atheists who posts here, I’ll certainly agree with the sentiment of that quote. I don’t think our society gains anything from teaching our children that it’s okay not to question things and accept that which they can’t understand on some self-serving notion of “faith.”
Also, think about the footage you see from the Mideast of young children proclaiming their hatred of Jews and their willingness to become martyrs. This is the same mentality at work here.
“Hey kids, if we say God hates Jews, don’t question. Just believe and obey.”
Enrique on January 24, 2007 at 6:05 PM
I missed church Sunday, so I don’t know how to respond to this post. I must wait for the pronouncements from my leaders.
Barntender on January 24, 2007 at 6:05 PM
Interesting. I was watching Fox News this morning,and they had on this guy talking about global warming. He said, and I paraphrase, “There is no debate about this…science has spoken.” Apparently, we are supposed to just believe everything science tells us, without debate or critical thinking, and be happy about it. Hell, 50 years ago, science told us lobotomies were the right course of action too.
Not that I would refute this by only attacking the other side. I think that the allegation is, in some instances, true. Speaking as an evangelical myself, I think that there needs to be an active initiative against anti-intellectualism in my own faith community. However, I would also say that I think that the judgment is largely over-pronounced by critics on the left.
nailinmyeye on January 24, 2007 at 6:06 PM
No, she means Martin Luther King Jr, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton,… oh wait. Never mind.
pedestrian on January 24, 2007 at 6:06 PM
As a dim-witted Christian automotaton, could someone please have my leaders tell me what was said above cuz I’m too backwards to use a computer?
Child In Time on January 24, 2007 at 6:08 PM
Is this like the planetarium on South Park?
Limerick on January 24, 2007 at 6:10 PM
When will san fran nan aka the botox be-otch aka nancy plastic-osi prohibit race-based organizations in the House??? To wit: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0107/2389.html
Andy in Agoura Hills on January 24, 2007 at 6:10 PM
O/T a little.
Was Peloser sending messages, maybe morse code secret messages, with her irritating constant BLINKING last night?
She blinked at a rate of 1.67 times PER SECOND.
shooter on January 24, 2007 at 6:16 PM
Yeah, it shows real courage to sneak a camera into a big, wide open church where they have the gall to preach all that “love your neighbor” stuff. Let’s see her try the same trick in a mosque.
Bryan on January 24, 2007 at 6:16 PM
Will someone tell me I should be angry at her. Will someone tell me I think she is wrong. Will someone tell me what to do. Should I even be typing this? Please, someone tell me, I…can’t…think…on…my…own…
right2bright on January 24, 2007 at 6:17 PM
Take Pat Robertson Protein shake. You will have the answer in a second. Oreilly told colbert that protein shake is his source of energy,.
Ouabam on January 24, 2007 at 6:17 PM
I have access to HBO right now and call myself a Christian, but I don’t think I could stomache something like that.
I mean really, is painting us like sheep anything new anyway?
Besides, if she was actually courageous, she’d do this in a mosque and call them sheep. Then they’d understand the true meaning of persecution.
Esthier on January 24, 2007 at 6:21 PM
I agree. Faith is great. Unquestioned faith however is nothing more than blind allegance. If you don’t question what you believe and why you believe it, you don’t actually believe it, you’re just going along with it.
JaHerer22 on January 24, 2007 at 6:24 PM
Rosie?
So, you’re comparing evangelicals to terrorists? Why can’t atheists just be atheists, without spending so much energy trying to get in everyone else’s face?
Are you that afraid?
reaganaut on January 24, 2007 at 6:24 PM
Well, this automaton doesn’t plan on watching her little propaganda piece. I don’t think they have a problem with Xtianists being automatons. I think their problem is with Xtianists not being their automatons. Like their stable of union goons and anti-war march batallions.
spmat on January 24, 2007 at 6:24 PM
I am sick of people comparing Christian children to the children in the middle east who are brainwashed to become martyrs. Until christian children grow up, board buses and blow themselves up thinking they get a ticket to paradise this is an invalid comparison.
If you are merely saying they are brainwashed, they are no more so than all of the other children brainwashed by society that they have to have the same gadgets, the same clothes, behave in certain ways, etc. to be cool.
jman on January 24, 2007 at 6:25 PM
“Hey kids, can you spell straw man?”
spmat on January 24, 2007 at 6:26 PM
LOL! Because evolution has been proven, don’t you understand? And … because it’s impossible that evolution could have happened AFTER creation, right?
Sarcasm off.
Gregor on January 24, 2007 at 6:32 PM
Every Christian is either Jim Jones or a Jim Jones lacky. It was on Frontline so it must be true.
Limerick on January 24, 2007 at 6:33 PM
Hey Enrique, I got news for you. Christianity is the only major religion that DOESN’T call for it’s adherents to accept the words of men without question.
1 John 4:1
2 Timothy 2:15
Acts 17:11
John 5:39
Matthew 24:22-25
As for faith being a “self-serving notion”, you are respectfully incorrect. I grew up with no interest in religion, no parental religious guidance, and nothing in my life BUT self-serving notions. Those have mostly disappeared with my surrender to a loving Creator. But BPWMGINFWMY.
Freelancer on January 24, 2007 at 6:33 PM
The definitive evolution video! See it to believe it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7fVvG-581s
lorien1973 on January 24, 2007 at 6:34 PM
Classic, spmat.
see-dubya on January 24, 2007 at 6:36 PM
Saw her plugging it on Joe “i’ll have sex with my grandma if it’ll keep me on tv” Scarborough’s show. Usual lib nonsense, i doubt i’ll watch.
Scot on January 24, 2007 at 6:37 PM
This, from the same people currently worshipping AlGore’s fictional movie on global warming as the best documentary of the year.
Irony
Gregor on January 24, 2007 at 6:37 PM
I actually enjoyed her doc Diary of a Political Tourist
Very funny.
The Ugly American on January 24, 2007 at 6:39 PM
You are starting to tread into “Rosie-reasoning” here. In this case I will avoid the mistake you have made, that is speaking about something for which you have no real experience and knowledge.
I don’t know how much thought, reason, and questioning goes into choosing the role of “martyr.” I do know, as a Christian, an extreme amount of questioning, thought went into my decision to accept Christ as my savior. Perhaps to my surprise, the more study of the Bible I undertook, the more the logic and reason of God’s plan became apparent. The irony is that to be a Christian, one has to make a specific, personal choice. It is not a mindless existance where everything is accepted at face value. Because Christians assess life against the standard of the Bible, does not mean we are automatons.
Based on my experience, Christians know the life of the unbeliever and the life of the believer. Once they have accepted Christ, most do not go back. Atheists only know the life of the unbelievers, but tend to speak with great authority about how Christians think. About this subject they only show their ignorance.
Mallard T. Drake on January 24, 2007 at 6:39 PM
More irony:
Meanwhile, Enrique puts his entire being on his “faith” in scientists who have absolutely no understanding of how the universe was created and who’s beliefs consist of nothing more than theories.
Gregor on January 24, 2007 at 6:45 PM
Speaking of which, regarding global warming, does anyone else find it odd that we’re to take as gospel the predictions of people who can’t tell us the weather accurately tommorow what the weather will be in thirty years?
Iblis on January 24, 2007 at 6:52 PM
It’s safe to make fun of Christians because we won’t cut your head off for insulting our religion.
The Monster on January 24, 2007 at 6:53 PM
The left fails to realize that the constant villification of Christians does nothing but grow the flock. They also fail to realize that Christianity is something personal, not necessarily held together by a church. One does not need a church to be Christian.
I just find it odd they intend to persecute people because they themselves hate religion. Who in fact is the real zealot here? Christians or those who persue them fanatically?
darwin on January 24, 2007 at 7:01 PM
While we are on the subject didn’t
ParisAnderson do a special on “Christianity” that shamelessly promoted the Unitarian church?Theworldisnotenough on January 24, 2007 at 7:02 PM
We are also not insecure children, criticism does not define our faith.
Theworldisnotenough on January 24, 2007 at 7:03 PM
There lies the problem with some people on the left, and atheists, and some others????.
To BELIEVE is NOT to question. Do you BELIEVE your truths? Your mom is your mom, do you question that? People don’t question what they believe, they question all that they don’t believe. 2+2 =4 believe it.
For a Christian, faith is the culmination of years of believing a truth.
A Faith definition:
“the trust in God and in His promises as made through Christ and the Scriptures by which humans are justified or saved.”
There is NO DOUBT in my mind of the PROMISES in the gospel, not one question. For proof, read the new testament just for a start. If you CHOOSE to not believe what it says, so be it, you were given free will to do so.
JaHerrera, you have things you believe, and we Christians have things we believe. These beliefs are not questioned by us or they wouldn’t be ‘believed’. That’s not having faith.
So I do NOT question “what I believe”. I have been provided the proof, so it’s is now FAITH.
shooter on January 24, 2007 at 7:10 PM
I just find it odd they intend to persecute people because they themselves hate religion. Who in fact is the real zealot here? Christians or those who persue them fanatically?
darwin on January 24, 2007 at 7:01 PM
Beautifully said!
Child In Time on January 24, 2007 at 7:13 PM
Well said.
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GT on January 24, 2007 at 7:14 PM
AND, for the lies? Islam is nowhere near being the fastest growing religion. There are new Christians at a rate of over 185,000 each and every day all around the world, adding to the already 2.35 Billion Christians.
Source book is called “Mega Shift”, I can’t remember the author right now.
shooter on January 24, 2007 at 7:24 PM
Well, I was planning on cancelling HBO anyway, now I’ll wait til after this airs and say that’s why I’m cancelling.
Haha. Small things amuse the Xtian mind…
NTWR on January 24, 2007 at 7:25 PM
Only Roe is a larger chunk of red meat. Usually I just stay out of the Xian argument but what the hell………
I am that guy who accepts Jesus as my savior and as the Son of God but who keeps one eye pegged on the preacher and one hand pegged on my wallet. I believe in evolution, the big-bang, and gunpowder. I also believe in the birth, the death and the resurrection of Christ. I have absolutely no idea what the heck is on the other side. Cloud city? 72 virgins? Planet Hollywood? The only thing I know for sure is that when I get there I better have some answers to the questions. No preacher has a bull ring in my nose. I end up on the sharp end of BOTH sticks….the ‘humanists’ and the evangelicals.
Limerick on January 24, 2007 at 7:28 PM
How come the look on Pelosi’s face in nearly every picture of her looks like Ted Kennedy just dropped trow in front of her?
Woody
woodcdi on January 24, 2007 at 7:35 PM
Who are these “ex-tians” you guys keep mentioning. I thought we were commenting about CHRISTians.
Mallard T. Drake on January 24, 2007 at 7:47 PM
You mean like all the Liberal
dogmatripe you and your “enlightened” Moonie moonbats cling to?You mean like that?
seejanemom on January 24, 2007 at 7:51 PM
BLESSEDLY, I do not have HBO and am killing my cable by month’s end.
There isn’t a D@MNED thing on that idiot box that any foul-mouthed backslid Baptist has any business pouring into her mind.
SO I QUIT TV.
Would suggest y’all give it a try. I have a boxed set of The Waltons and Little House on The Prairie of anyone wants to borrow them.
Popcorn’s on Jane.
seejanemom on January 24, 2007 at 7:55 PM
I thought “Journeys With George” was well-done. By the end of it, you could tell she and Bush actually got along quite well. Not so much with John Kerry in the film she did with him.
That review is lefty red meat. Sure, there are some Christians – just like there are some non-Christians – who show less credulity than others. But we’re hardly the “poor, uneducated and easy to command” rabble portrayed by some in the media.
I hope the review linked is a case of a reviewer reading their own biases into another person’s film – because from what I’ve seen of Pelosi, she’s pretty fair overall.
Slublog on January 24, 2007 at 7:55 PM
We’re being facetious, Mal. Or at least I am.
NTWR on January 24, 2007 at 8:09 PM
Uh freelancer?
Judaism doesn’t either
Defector01 on January 24, 2007 at 8:10 PM
Mallard T. Drake- I’m pretty sure the xtians is meant as sarcastic, ie: Christ not allowed in public discourse.
Scot on January 24, 2007 at 8:10 PM
Hahahahahahaha.
I don’t get HBO. Thank, er, God. :)
Anwyn on January 24, 2007 at 9:05 PM
I’ve been watching for some time, and I am now very suspicious of AllahPundit — and these “raw meat” posts regarding religion that he seems to delight in posting. (Get your jollies out of provoking the readership, do you AP?)
No matter. The response was overwhelming. The HBO segment hasn’t even aired yet, and the “people of faith” that frequent the HotAir site have already blown so many holes in Alexandra Pelosi that even Yosemite Sam had cause to blush. (The best part is that they didn’t even need my help.)
Of course, it won’t come without a price. honora will be delighted that there are SO MANY SNL “church ladies” to pick on. BTW, where is she (honora)? I am sure that JaHerer MUST be getting lonely by now.
CyberCipher on January 24, 2007 at 9:15 PM
Let me add Copernicus, Kepler, John Napier, Euler and Francis Schaeffer to your list.
INC on January 24, 2007 at 9:33 PM
On the surface the peice seems objective and unbiased. I will watch it. I hope it isn’t a ‘hit job’. I will say I like its originality. I don,t think it has ever been done. This could be a refreshing change from the stereo typing done by the MSM and stand up comics. Could Alexandra be to Nancy as Patty is to Ronald? That would be so sweet!
sonnyspats1 on January 24, 2007 at 9:38 PM
HBO mentions she visited Joel Osteen, Ted Haggard, and Jerry Falwell. Let me tell you, that list alone tells me she had already stereotyped evangelical Christians in her mind. She should have included R. C. Sproul, John Piper and Al Mohler.
INC on January 24, 2007 at 9:55 PM
This isn’t going to be good, because she’s started off with a false premise:
We evangelical Christians have ministers and they’re our leaders, but our real Leader is the Man Upstairs and His Word, the Bible.
In that the very foundation of our Faith (the fundamental fundamental, if you will) is the Bible, it goes without saying that if we follow the Holy Word we’ve overcome our self-willed attempts to question or disobey Scripture…or we’re working on it.
Notice that Alexandra not only is guilty of this mind-numbed robot behavior herself as a good member of the Left who gets her Talking Points Memo every day from the DNC, but she’s also a Catholic and they also tend to behave like “automatons, unable or unwilling to question the pronouncements of their” Pope, if they’re good Catholics, that is.
Yes, let’s all sing John Lennon’s “Imagine: …no religion, too.”
Then the world would be so beautiful, right?
Speaking of beauty, too bad Alexandra didn’t get at least some of Nancy’s pretty genes. Meow.
And we Christians are a persecuted majority. I heard President Nixon talk about the “silent majority” when I was in high school, but know I really know what and who he meant and I’m one of them.
I do hope and pray that we’re learning not to so silent any more even though things like this movie are just one more attempt to shame, embarrass and silence us.
Jen the Neocon on January 24, 2007 at 10:14 PM
I think, humbly, that perhaps we need to hear all voices and sides in the debate and make up our own minds based upon reason as well as faith.
Just a thought.
Emmett J. on January 24, 2007 at 10:32 PM
And Jesus said,
“What?”
The Machine on January 24, 2007 at 10:49 PM
You mean like loving thy neighbor even after he kills a family member?
How about paying a tithe just because you are commanded to? A tithe that helps the less fortunate.
Maybe spending one day a week getting outside your own selfish life?
Since when do Christians blow up market places? Just where did Christ teach that Christians should kill people that don’t convert to the faith?
csdeven on January 24, 2007 at 10:59 PM
Just one thing though – I grew up Catholic. I put my time in. I had to go to church twice a week. TWICE! Reflecting on the agony of it all drives me to drink…
But practicing Christians don’t really think or behave differently than anyone else – they just have the option to give credit/blame for everything that happens to them to this Highly Improbable Being.
All I’m saying is let’s just raise our kids to be decent human beings without introducing this ultra-complex, neurosis-inducing, omnipotent God character that knows our thoughts and is constantly judging us. That sets a needlessly proposterous standard to live up to. We can be decent human beings without this God guy dragging us down – what with his strange preoccupation with consenting adult behavior that harms no one outside of the participants therein. I mean, you know?
Insh’allah.
Enrique on January 24, 2007 at 11:21 PM
Who gets to decide what a decent human being is? You? Why should anyone have “faith” in you? You, believe it or not are exercising “faith” in your beliefs.
Regardless of your experiences, a huge majority of people of faith have very positive experiences. I have found that most people who blame “God” for how they processed religeous teachings need to look within themselves to find someone to blame.
csdeven on January 24, 2007 at 11:32 PM
Right. I blame myself for my failures. I credit myself for my accomplishments. It’s almost as if it makes perfect sense.
Enrique on January 24, 2007 at 11:38 PM
Are you saying that Christians do not take the same attitude?
csdeven on January 24, 2007 at 11:41 PM
Emmett J.,
For Christians there is no dichotomy between reason and faith. I think Kirkegaard was the one who introduced the false division between reason and faith. See the lists above and read some Lewis, Schaeffer, Sproul, Piper and Mohler.
INC on January 24, 2007 at 11:44 PM
INC I’ve seen long lists of the intelligentsia throughout the centuries and, yup, it simultaneiously reads like a who’s who of Christianity. As Lewis eloquently put, “I was dragged screaming and kicking into the kingdom of God.” His unflinching search for truth demanded conversion from atheist to disciple. A reasoned and fair search eventually leads to the foot of the cross where the ground is level for all. Perhaps critics caricaturize believers as bumpkins so they don’t have to seriously consider a faith that would force a change in their own behavior.
Mojave Mark on January 25, 2007 at 12:42 AM
Freelancer – Amen. Jaherer22 I finally agree with you. There is nothing wrong with questioning one’s faith. Looking for answers to those questions led me to deeper faith. If I had concluded there was nothing there, I would have walked. Anyone should be free to make that choice. I would encourage a serious inquiry though, rather than just watching a tele-vangelist and going nope!
Buck Turgidson on January 25, 2007 at 1:21 AM
All groups have these types of people, but these types of people don’t make up the entirety or even the majority of all groups.
Take, for example, Al Gore’s movie. Liberals are mindlessly accepting it as “figurative and literal gospel” and are “unable or unwilling to question” Gore’s pronouncements.
So to prove that evangelical Christians aren’t persecuted, you go out and produce a documentary that persecutes them and belittles them by showing that “evangelical faith suffocates reason?” What a load of horse crap!
JinxMcHue on January 25, 2007 at 1:32 AM
Right you are overall, although Kirkegaard was able to draw some decent conclusions ocassionally. Lewis is not bad, although you generally have to take him slowly so as to digest better.
I would also have to recommend Augustine as well as the Gospels and Romans, not to mention most of the New Testament. After all, even philosophers very frequestly used the Bible for their reference points (obvious and referential) as well – even some of the later 19th century ones.
Overall, I would have to Agree with this:
As an (imperfect) follower of Christ, I, as well, wish to stimulate discussion (as I believe that you also do) so as to attempt to bring about that change in behavior.
And, to be quite honest, sometimes the attacks of those (who came before us and upon each other) get old. Discussion is far better than the personal attack – especially when it comes to living our faith.
From that perspective, I feel that I was successful in helping to divert the track from pure insult and attack to discussion.
Thank you for your faith and your views.
Lastly, Enrique, it sounds as if you have given up on God due in part to your experiences. You may have heard this before, but it is just as true, no matter who says it:
God has not given up on you.
Thanks all for sharing and best wishes for a good night to all.
Emmett J. on January 25, 2007 at 2:06 AM
Does “evangelical” include Catholics? The Pope has recently made the important and firm point that God IS reason, and that we are required to use ours.
Christianity, like any human system attracts a wide spectrum of adherents. Some are simple, and so need only simple truths to be content. Some are highly analytical and question, investigate and test everything the religion proposes.
All are true Christians.
To produce a work that focuses on the simple, while suggesting it is representative of the entire faith is flawed or fraud.
Such a work can be produced only by someone who is ignorant or devious respectively.
the-gunslinger on January 25, 2007 at 3:06 AM
Sadly, I know many guys raised Catholic who feel exactly like you do. I had no religious affiliation until my thirties. Now I’m a musical director and worship leader at a Methodist church. A decade ago I fronted a grunge band playing some seriously loud music. If faith in Jesus doesn’t change you – you’re doing it wrong.
Buck Turgidson on January 25, 2007 at 9:51 AM
Enrique, I apologize if my answers are brief as each of your concerns really do merit a detailed response, a luxury not afforded while at work.
Walking into a church does not make you a christian any more than walking into a barn makes you a cow. I grew up Episcopalian without ever understanding the gospel until I actually read the bible many years later.
I think the key words are “Practicing Christians”. Many people go through the life calling themselves Christians without really living (or even reading) the words in the bible. If you want to judge Christianity, judge Christ as he sets the example of what we aspire to. Christians are not perfect, which is why we need him.
Saying that God is constantly judging us misses the entire point of the new testament that God loves us and sent his Son Jesus to die in our place (John 3:16). God is our Father and we are his children. Do you constantly judge your children just waiting for them to make as mistake so you can pounce? Neither does God.
The laws of the bible were meant to show us our spiritual depravity as they are impossible to keep via our own power, which is why we need Christ:
As a parent instructs a child, so are Gods rules meant to instruct or protect us. They are not meant to “drag you down”, they are meant to enrich your life.
jman on January 25, 2007 at 10:02 AM
Hey Allah, think you could scare up some video of Nan Jr. on Hanity & Colms last night. It was painful. She was in full valley-girl mode.
KelliD on January 25, 2007 at 10:51 AM
A few thoughts:
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Ponder this: I believe it takes more FAITH to be an athiest.
Hebrews 11:1 (NIV) says, “Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.”
Hebrews 11:1 (ESV) says, “Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.”
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Jesus called people “sheep”. He did not call Christians “sheep”. He did refer to his “flock”, but that is only a subset of “sheep”. Has anyone considered the nature and habits of sheep?
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I don’t go to church because I HAVE to. I go because I GET to. It is a privelege and an honor. Not a requirement. Although Paul does counsel, “Let us not give up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but let us encourage one another…” (Hebrews 10:25, NIV)
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INC on January 24, 2007 at 9:55 PM, wrote:
HBO mentions she visited Joel Osteen, Ted Haggard, and Jerry Falwell. Let me tell you, that list alone tells me she had already stereotyped evangelical Christians in her mind. She should have included R. C. Sproul, John Piper and Al Mohler.
I say, “Amen”, and if I had the time, I could probably add a few more to this list…
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Enrique, consider this: It is not “this God guy dragging us down”, we can do that much on our own, and if that’s the way you see it, maybe it’s your own convictions. Christianity is about “this God guy” picking us back up again, even if we don’t deserve it.
BNCurtis on January 25, 2007 at 10:54 AM
Ah yes, the liberal mind knows who the REAL enemies are, it’s not the fanatical Muslims who would love nothing better than to chop off all their heads, it’s REALLY those EVIL VILE Christians. You know, the people who are trying to stop them from murdering the innocent unborn, roadblocking the way towards the marriage of sexual deviates, people who think that it’s actually “criminal” for liberals to keep releasing murderers, rapists, and pedophiles back into society to prey on the public…you know, EVIL people like that.
NRA4Freedom on January 25, 2007 at 11:41 AM
I am not sure who Ms. Pelosi thinks my “leaders” are. I have one. And as a number of folks have pointed out, Christians are called to willing submission to God. Therefore, that we are unwilling or unable to question the pronouncement of our Leader is unsurprising. That we all struggle daily to live according to God’s will is part of the deal, cause we are all humans after all. It does take faith to believe what the Bible says, but that faith is well worth it.
Ennuipundit on January 25, 2007 at 11:56 AM