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	<title>Comments on: Video: Wisconsin company tells U.S. soldier in Iraq to get bent</title>
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		<title>By: Independent Conservative</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/01/23/video-wisconsin-company-tells-us-soldier-in-iraq-to-get-bent/comment-page-2/#comment-198629</link>
		<dc:creator>Independent Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 02:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Discount-Mats.com, a Shady Business?...&lt;/strong&gt;

	Everybody has heard about the Discount-Mats.com matter.  I&#8217;ll never buy from them.  Oh wait, I never heard of them before this, so I would have never brought from them anyway   .
	Well Heidi over at Euphoric Reality has been doing some deep inve...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Discount-Mats.com, a Shady Business?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>	Everybody has heard about the Discount-Mats.com matter.  I&#8217;ll never buy from them.  Oh wait, I never heard of them before this, so I would have never brought from them anyway   .<br />
	Well Heidi over at Euphoric Reality has been doing some deep inve&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jhn'1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jhn'1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two things
1) the Fox article left the impression (deliberate?) that the troop was asking for freebies. In the quote from the SGT, it is clear that he is wanting to buy, but from a company that can ship it to him. definite difference, and a lot less empathy for somebody that didn&#039;t get freebies than someone who wanted to transact business (presumably at a profit to the business)
2) it sounds like the &quot;firing&quot; of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nbc5i.com/news/4071942/detail.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dallas&lt;/a&gt; area clerk(s) that refused service to a uniformed Marine a few years back. No Name, no interviews with the culprit, and take the owner&#039;s word that action has been taken. For an internet business ...
IT would be most likely that the &quot;employee&quot; in question is the owner or a partner of the group it seems make up that ring. (In Florida such actions were usually connected with hiding the employment or ownership at business that would disqualify the welfare being received or violate visa conditions such as student or visitor)
Look at all the addresses for welfare fraud as well as visa violations and I suspect it would be found.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two things<br />
1) the Fox article left the impression (deliberate?) that the troop was asking for freebies. In the quote from the SGT, it is clear that he is wanting to buy, but from a company that can ship it to him. definite difference, and a lot less empathy for somebody that didn&#8217;t get freebies than someone who wanted to transact business (presumably at a profit to the business)<br />
2) it sounds like the &#8220;firing&#8221; of the <a href="http://www.nbc5i.com/news/4071942/detail.html" rel="nofollow">Dallas</a> area clerk(s) that refused service to a uniformed Marine a few years back. No Name, no interviews with the culprit, and take the owner&#8217;s word that action has been taken. For an internet business &#8230;<br />
IT would be most likely that the &#8220;employee&#8221; in question is the owner or a partner of the group it seems make up that ring. (In Florida such actions were usually connected with hiding the employment or ownership at business that would disqualify the welfare being received or violate visa conditions such as student or visitor)<br />
Look at all the addresses for welfare fraud as well as visa violations and I suspect it would be found.</p>
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		<title>By: iam7545</title>
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		<dc:creator>iam7545</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello - CAIR??  Where is your traveling Press Conference now???
Imagine the outrage if a Muslim was sent an email like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello &#8211; CAIR??  Where is your traveling Press Conference now???<br />
Imagine the outrage if a Muslim was sent an email like this.</p>
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		<title>By: sonnyspats1</title>
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		<dc:creator>sonnyspats1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Douche bags! I thing that about sums it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Douche bags! I thing that about sums it up.</p>
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		<title>By: hadsil</title>
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		<dc:creator>hadsil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Free speech&quot;, eh?  Ok.  I don&#039;t like black people.  I won&#039;t sell to them.  I don&#039;t like Democrats, prove you&#039;re a Republican before I sell to you.  Hey, you aren&#039;t a Jew, are you?  Give that back!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Free speech&#8221;, eh?  Ok.  I don&#8217;t like black people.  I won&#8217;t sell to them.  I don&#8217;t like Democrats, prove you&#8217;re a Republican before I sell to you.  Hey, you aren&#8217;t a Jew, are you?  Give that back!</p>
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		<title>By: Random-American - News, Comments, and the Rantings of an Ordinary Citizen &#187; Web Site Kicks Sand in Faces of GIs in Iraq Asking for Mats to Ease Hardship of Sleeping on Ground</title>
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		<dc:creator>Random-American - News, Comments, and the Rantings of an Ordinary Citizen &#187; Web Site Kicks Sand in Faces of GIs in Iraq Asking for Mats to Ease Hardship of Sleeping on Ground</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 05:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Let me guess&#8230;but they &#8220;support the troops,&#8221; right?  Bah.  More on this story at HotAir.  Must see.  Oh yeah, the business is registered to Faisal Khetani, an American Muslim of Pakistani descent.  And reaction to this story has been less than pleasant, to say the least.  Blackfive has more on the reaction. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Let me guess&#8230;but they &#8220;support the troops,&#8221; right?  Bah.  More on this story at HotAir.  Must see.  Oh yeah, the business is registered to Faisal Khetani, an American Muslim of Pakistani descent.  And reaction to this story has been less than pleasant, to say the least.  Blackfive has more on the reaction. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JinxMcHue</title>
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		<dc:creator>JinxMcHue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 05:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;In fairness to hotair I think the Jamil story has taught them not to just post rumors.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think that story scared them into being more cautious than they need to be.  My source was Snopes, which is pretty damned reliable.  I&#039;ve hardly ever seen them have to post a correction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In fairness to hotair I think the Jamil story has taught them not to just post rumors.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think that story scared them into being more cautious than they need to be.  My source was Snopes, which is pretty damned reliable.  I&#8217;ve hardly ever seen them have to post a correction.</p>
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		<title>By: Emmett J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emmett J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 04:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Fox News covered it like a blanket.

I say just shun those who do not support OUR troops. They have their freedoms, so do we, just practice freedom of choice and choose to do business else where. 

Zorro on January 23, 2007 at 6:52 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Exactly! - The best of both worlds - support free market capitalism and free speech as well as the troops!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Fox News covered it like a blanket.</p>
<p>I say just shun those who do not support OUR troops. They have their freedoms, so do we, just practice freedom of choice and choose to do business else where. </p>
<p>Zorro on January 23, 2007 at 6:52 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Exactly! &#8211; The best of both worlds &#8211; support free market capitalism and free speech as well as the troops!</p>
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		<title>By: Limerick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Limerick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 03:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lazarus.......

Take your pill. They don&#039;t issue them jammies either. Since when has ANY government supplied its employees all the tools they need? ANY government at ALL. Name ONE. Just ONE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lazarus&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Take your pill. They don&#8217;t issue them jammies either. Since when has ANY government supplied its employees all the tools they need? ANY government at ALL. Name ONE. Just ONE.</p>
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		<title>By: Church and State</title>
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		<dc:creator>Church and State</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 03:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Wisconsin Company Kicks Sand in Faces of GIs...&lt;/strong&gt;

As if Sgt. Hess has the authority to pull out on the advice of some peacenik who obviously does not realize that we are at war!...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Wisconsin Company Kicks Sand in Faces of GIs&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>As if Sgt. Hess has the authority to pull out on the advice of some peacenik who obviously does not realize that we are at war!&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lazarus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lazarus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 02:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The outrage is that these guys need to buy their own mats at all.  We spend hundreds of billions on weapons that our leaders prevent our men from using on the enemy, and our boys in Crapistan have to ante up for their own fucking mats.  Thanks, Washington.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The outrage is that these guys need to buy their own mats at all.  We spend hundreds of billions on weapons that our leaders prevent our men from using on the enemy, and our boys in Crapistan have to ante up for their own fucking mats.  Thanks, Washington.</p>
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		<title>By: MamaAJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MamaAJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Freelancer, it is absolutely not policy to require APO paperwork to bases in the U.S. While your example is possible, it&#039;s a tiny fraction of all packages sent to all the military bases/posts in the country. That would be a whole lot of extra paperwork &quot;just in case&quot;.

Which hasn&#039;t stopped the military and/or gov&#039;t before, but...

And SF may handle all the APO mail to points west, but I was talking about clerks in a little local branch near her house!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freelancer, it is absolutely not policy to require APO paperwork to bases in the U.S. While your example is possible, it&#8217;s a tiny fraction of all packages sent to all the military bases/posts in the country. That would be a whole lot of extra paperwork &#8220;just in case&#8221;.</p>
<p>Which hasn&#8217;t stopped the military and/or gov&#8217;t before, but&#8230;</p>
<p>And SF may handle all the APO mail to points west, but I was talking about clerks in a little local branch near her house!</p>
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		<title>By: Highrise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Highrise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope this serves as a red flag to look into to make sure it isn&#039;t part of a sham.  Seen enough of their so called *legit* businesses really were fronts to send money back to support terrorists.  Especially given his stance after his business looks decimated.

I also do not think it was an employee.  The response was his.

We reserve the right to hound him until he shuts down his business if he wishes to pop off to the very armed forces that afford his luxury to have the freedom of a business. 

Go back to pakistan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope this serves as a red flag to look into to make sure it isn&#8217;t part of a sham.  Seen enough of their so called *legit* businesses really were fronts to send money back to support terrorists.  Especially given his stance after his business looks decimated.</p>
<p>I also do not think it was an employee.  The response was his.</p>
<p>We reserve the right to hound him until he shuts down his business if he wishes to pop off to the very armed forces that afford his luxury to have the freedom of a business. </p>
<p>Go back to pakistan!</p>
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		<title>By: Right Voices &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Discount Mats Tells Soldier: &#8220;we would NEVER ship to Iraq. If you were sensible, you and your troops would pull out of Iraq.&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/01/23/video-wisconsin-company-tells-us-soldier-in-iraq-to-get-bent/comment-page-2/#comment-197028</link>
		<dc:creator>Right Voices &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Discount Mats Tells Soldier: &#8220;we would NEVER ship to Iraq. If you were sensible, you and your troops would pull out of Iraq.&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 00:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hot Air: The company itself has been so deluged with angry messages that they’ve had to take their site offline, and the owner has reportedly been threatened and subjected to some choice words from the “nuke Mecca” crowd. Lovely. See video here Bookmark to: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hot Air: The company itself has been so deluged with angry messages that they’ve had to take their site offline, and the owner has reportedly been threatened and subjected to some choice words from the “nuke Mecca” crowd. Lovely. See video here Bookmark to: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MsUnderestimated</title>
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		<dc:creator>MsUnderestimated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 00:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’d like to read, but the link seems to be broken. I get:

Oops - There’s Nothing Here
It looks like Kit’s not as good at this site design thing as she thinks!
:-) 

lan astaslem on January 23, 2007 at 4:12 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

FYI....Redheaded Infidel at Euphoric Reality just got &lt;a href=&quot;http://euphoricreality.com/2007/01/21/lefty-retailer-insults-troops-2/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;their post&lt;/a&gt; back. After she started doing this investigating, she got an email warning her that these Mooslim asshats were very tech-savvy, and to be careful about going too far in digging into their background. 

Soon thereafter, their post (and &lt;a href=&quot;http://euphoricreality.com/2007/01/21/lefty-retailer-insults-troops-2/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ONLY this post&lt;/a&gt;) was broken (did I mention it was only THIS particular post? the rest of Euphoric Reality was still viable). They&#039;ve salvaged the whole post, but lost all their trackbacks and comments. But the most important part is their investigative work is now back up. Check out the post... let&#039;s go a-huntin! 

Here&#039;s a brief piece from their post: 

&lt;strong&gt;HAHAH!! WE’VE BEEN HACKED.
WE’RE BEING SLAMMED BY PROXIES OUT OF CHICAGO AND MILWAUKEE. APPARENTLY, THE MUSLIMS DON’T LIKE THIS ARTICLE AND DELETED IT COMPLETELY.
YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS?
WE’RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK. &lt;/strong&gt;

I think the girls are onto something. I&#039;ve seen whole sites crash, but never single posts just go *poof*.... VERY strange.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’d like to read, but the link seems to be broken. I get:</p>
<p>Oops &#8211; There’s Nothing Here<br />
It looks like Kit’s not as good at this site design thing as she thinks!<br />
:-) </p>
<p>lan astaslem on January 23, 2007 at 4:12 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>FYI&#8230;.Redheaded Infidel at Euphoric Reality just got <a href="http://euphoricreality.com/2007/01/21/lefty-retailer-insults-troops-2/" rel="nofollow">their post</a> back. After she started doing this investigating, she got an email warning her that these Mooslim asshats were very tech-savvy, and to be careful about going too far in digging into their background. </p>
<p>Soon thereafter, their post (and <a href="http://euphoricreality.com/2007/01/21/lefty-retailer-insults-troops-2/" rel="nofollow">ONLY this post</a>) was broken (did I mention it was only THIS particular post? the rest of Euphoric Reality was still viable). They&#8217;ve salvaged the whole post, but lost all their trackbacks and comments. But the most important part is their investigative work is now back up. Check out the post&#8230; let&#8217;s go a-huntin! </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a brief piece from their post: </p>
<p><strong>HAHAH!! WE’VE BEEN HACKED.<br />
WE’RE BEING SLAMMED BY PROXIES OUT OF CHICAGO AND MILWAUKEE. APPARENTLY, THE MUSLIMS DON’T LIKE THIS ARTICLE AND DELETED IT COMPLETELY.<br />
YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS?<br />
WE’RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK. </strong></p>
<p>I think the girls are onto something. I&#8217;ve seen whole sites crash, but never single posts just go *poof*&#8230;. VERY strange.</p>
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		<title>By: Buzzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buzzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 00:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This wouldn&#039;t have been a story at all if they had responded that they didn&#039;t ship to APO / FPO addresses and suggest that the purchaser have someone in the US purchase the mats and ship them theirselves.  But no, they made a political statement and thus they discriminated against persons with an APO / FPO address (which is not an international address).  

For this they must pay by being exposed and in the bright light of day public opinion may or may not result in this guy&#039;s business going under.  There are lessons to be learned here and I&#039;m sure that some people are more than willing to teach them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This wouldn&#8217;t have been a story at all if they had responded that they didn&#8217;t ship to APO / FPO addresses and suggest that the purchaser have someone in the US purchase the mats and ship them theirselves.  But no, they made a political statement and thus they discriminated against persons with an APO / FPO address (which is not an international address).  </p>
<p>For this they must pay by being exposed and in the bright light of day public opinion may or may not result in this guy&#8217;s business going under.  There are lessons to be learned here and I&#8217;m sure that some people are more than willing to teach them.</p>
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		<title>By: Zorro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zorro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fox News covered it like a blanket.

I say just shun those who do not support OUR troops.  They have their freedoms, so do we, just practice freedom of choice and choose to do business else where.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fox News covered it like a blanket.</p>
<p>I say just shun those who do not support OUR troops.  They have their freedoms, so do we, just practice freedom of choice and choose to do business else where.</p>
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		<title>By: Freelancer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freelancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I support free speech unconditionally.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The call of the unbridled socialist. JaHerer, the Constitution doesn&#039;t even support free speech &lt;strong&gt;unconditionally&lt;/strong&gt;, and that is a foolish position to take, especially backed by considering the &quot;yelling fire in a theatre&quot; concept as being acceptable speech.

LegendHasIt had this one right all along. A business owner may do business as he chooses. But when a business owner makes his personal or political biases known to be the basis for his decisions, it is also fair game to be biased against his business for those same positions. If (very unlikely) I had a reason to seek a product his business provides, you can be sure that now he has no chance of getting my money. I can imagine even writing him an email to tell him why. But that should be the limit of it.

Anybody who sent him correspondence laced with hatred or threats went too far.

When mailing to an APO/FPO, be cautious about trying to use the trick of NOT stating the address as being an APO/FPO. If it is letter mail or something you can be CERTAIN will go by US Postal Service, then no problem, it will get wherever they are as long as the correct ZIP+4 is used. But if UPS/FEDEX/DHL/etc is used to ship an item to that zip, it will be returned.

MamaAJ, the San Francisco post office does by far more APO/FPO volume than any post office in the world. It is quite possible that the counter employee was completely aware that AFB referred to a military location, and I&#039;ll bet it&#039;s policy to require the APO document, with good reason. Someone you know and love is stationed at Andrews, and you mail them a package. The same day you drop that box at the PO, your trooper is yanked onto a plane and sent to Seoul. If your package isn&#039;t documented for APO shipment, it goes to Andrews and gets delivered to the home unit, who then either lets it sit until he gets back, or returns it to the base PO with forwarding instructions. If it has the APO markings, the base PO, or even the regional USPS office will be able to forward it to Korea directly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I support free speech unconditionally.</p></blockquote>
<p>The call of the unbridled socialist. JaHerer, the Constitution doesn&#8217;t even support free speech <strong>unconditionally</strong>, and that is a foolish position to take, especially backed by considering the &#8220;yelling fire in a theatre&#8221; concept as being acceptable speech.</p>
<p>LegendHasIt had this one right all along. A business owner may do business as he chooses. But when a business owner makes his personal or political biases known to be the basis for his decisions, it is also fair game to be biased against his business for those same positions. If (very unlikely) I had a reason to seek a product his business provides, you can be sure that now he has no chance of getting my money. I can imagine even writing him an email to tell him why. But that should be the limit of it.</p>
<p>Anybody who sent him correspondence laced with hatred or threats went too far.</p>
<p>When mailing to an APO/FPO, be cautious about trying to use the trick of NOT stating the address as being an APO/FPO. If it is letter mail or something you can be CERTAIN will go by US Postal Service, then no problem, it will get wherever they are as long as the correct ZIP+4 is used. But if UPS/FEDEX/DHL/etc is used to ship an item to that zip, it will be returned.</p>
<p>MamaAJ, the San Francisco post office does by far more APO/FPO volume than any post office in the world. It is quite possible that the counter employee was completely aware that AFB referred to a military location, and I&#8217;ll bet it&#8217;s policy to require the APO document, with good reason. Someone you know and love is stationed at Andrews, and you mail them a package. The same day you drop that box at the PO, your trooper is yanked onto a plane and sent to Seoul. If your package isn&#8217;t documented for APO shipment, it goes to Andrews and gets delivered to the home unit, who then either lets it sit until he gets back, or returns it to the base PO with forwarding instructions. If it has the APO markings, the base PO, or even the regional USPS office will be able to forward it to Korea directly.</p>
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		<title>By: a deLayed reaction</title>
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		<dc:creator>a deLayed reaction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;You&#039;re not going to believe this......&lt;/strong&gt;

I just look at it and shake my head.  This business (there&#039;s been some question at Euphoric Reality if there really is a business or if this is something more weird and odd but the post isn&#039;t up anymore.  It was actually very deep in the rabbit hole ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>You&#8217;re not going to believe this&#8230;&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I just look at it and shake my head.  This business (there&#8217;s been some question at Euphoric Reality if there really is a business or if this is something more weird and odd but the post isn&#8217;t up anymore.  It was actually very deep in the rabbit hole &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gregor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; Remember, I don’t oppose the act of protesting, I just personally don’t do them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Errr ... I don&#039;t want to say what I have on my mind regarding that statement.  Maybe some of our current soldiers would have a thought on those who prefer to let others do the fighting.


&lt;blockquote&gt;One of many reasons not to live in SF or NY, I suppose. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

And which city is next?  Is that the answer?  Just move?  Eventually, you may run out of places to move.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Shouldn’t we give the SCOTUS an opportunity to sort this out? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Huh?  An opportunity?  They already passed on that opportunity.  It&#039;s history.  Done.  It&#039;s law and in NY&#039;s case ... it&#039;s been law for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> Remember, I don’t oppose the act of protesting, I just personally don’t do them.</p></blockquote>
<p>Errr &#8230; I don&#8217;t want to say what I have on my mind regarding that statement.  Maybe some of our current soldiers would have a thought on those who prefer to let others do the fighting.</p>
<blockquote><p>One of many reasons not to live in SF or NY, I suppose. </p></blockquote>
<p>And which city is next?  Is that the answer?  Just move?  Eventually, you may run out of places to move.</p>
<blockquote><p>Shouldn’t we give the SCOTUS an opportunity to sort this out? </p></blockquote>
<p>Huh?  An opportunity?  They already passed on that opportunity.  It&#8217;s history.  Done.  It&#8217;s law and in NY&#8217;s case &#8230; it&#8217;s been law for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;They are in my state. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Err ... NOT!  Not if you live in Texas.  For example ... Houston is home to a police chief who publicly refuses to enforce immigration laws, even after one of his officers was murdered by an illegal.

Texas also happens to be home of El Presidente Bush, so I&#039;m puzzled how you can claim your state enforces immigration law.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I looked and can’t find an estimate. Either way, it’s a well-known march that has been going for for over 30 years. Even it hasn’t stopped abortion.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not too well known if you can&#039;t find the info.  And like I said.  It&#039;s not going to be effective if there aren&#039;t 100,000 or more involved.  One other problem.  Almost all polls show the majority of Americans are against over-turning Woe vs Wade, so we&#039;re talking about apples and oranges here.  

&lt;blockquote&gt;Not only was the race closer than it should have been but my guys also won, all of them I believe.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And have all the illegals suddenly been deported since the election in Texas?  Did Bush get the message sent in his own state?  Did he give up on amnesty?  Is the border secure?

Not the slightest bit of impact.

&lt;blockquote&gt;And again, you’re not exactly talking about a method that has been proven as being able to save anything.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I totally disagree.  The ONLY method which has repeatedly been effective in changing government policy is MASS PROTEST.  That&#039;s been the case throughout history and it&#039;s no different now.


&lt;blockquote&gt;And what would we protest? What single issue do conservatives rally behind?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Border security.  Amnesty.  Illegal immigration.
85% of Americans are on the same page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>They are in my state. </p></blockquote>
<p>Err &#8230; NOT!  Not if you live in Texas.  For example &#8230; Houston is home to a police chief who publicly refuses to enforce immigration laws, even after one of his officers was murdered by an illegal.</p>
<p>Texas also happens to be home of El Presidente Bush, so I&#8217;m puzzled how you can claim your state enforces immigration law.</p>
<blockquote><p>I looked and can’t find an estimate. Either way, it’s a well-known march that has been going for for over 30 years. Even it hasn’t stopped abortion.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not too well known if you can&#8217;t find the info.  And like I said.  It&#8217;s not going to be effective if there aren&#8217;t 100,000 or more involved.  One other problem.  Almost all polls show the majority of Americans are against over-turning Woe vs Wade, so we&#8217;re talking about apples and oranges here.  </p>
<blockquote><p>Not only was the race closer than it should have been but my guys also won, all of them I believe.</p></blockquote>
<p>And have all the illegals suddenly been deported since the election in Texas?  Did Bush get the message sent in his own state?  Did he give up on amnesty?  Is the border secure?</p>
<p>Not the slightest bit of impact.</p>
<blockquote><p>And again, you’re not exactly talking about a method that has been proven as being able to save anything.</p></blockquote>
<p>I totally disagree.  The ONLY method which has repeatedly been effective in changing government policy is MASS PROTEST.  That&#8217;s been the case throughout history and it&#8217;s no different now.</p>
<blockquote><p>And what would we protest? What single issue do conservatives rally behind?</p></blockquote>
<p>Border security.  Amnesty.  Illegal immigration.<br />
85% of Americans are on the same page.</p>
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		<title>By: Timber Wolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timber Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Resa LaRu “Warchick” Kirkland, one of our correspondents here on &lt;a href=&quot;http://conservablogs.com/publiusforum/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Publius’ Forum&lt;/a&gt;, has been trying to clear up a wretched email that was sent to one of our boys in Iraq refusing him service and telling him he should “pull out of Iraq”.

In that same letter, Khetani also threatened Kirkland with unleashing the wrath of “major muslim organizations” on her for her “insults”. He closed by telling Kirkland, “you can be sure that there are million of muslim activists as well that will do something about your foul statements…. your statements against Muslims and your direct insults will not go unheard, I assure you.”&lt;/strong&gt;

There you have it. It&#039;s all her fault and now he&#039;s threatening an American with Islamic retaliation. How pathetically typical. There is hope though. A google new check this morning showed only 6 stories. It&#039;s now 111 and growing.

When Khetani made his threat he lost all options. Protest, yes! Boycott? Hell yes, it&#039;s a now brainer. Second to deportation. End of story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Resa LaRu “Warchick” Kirkland, one of our correspondents here on <a href="http://conservablogs.com/publiusforum/" rel="nofollow">Publius’ Forum</a>, has been trying to clear up a wretched email that was sent to one of our boys in Iraq refusing him service and telling him he should “pull out of Iraq”.</p>
<p>In that same letter, Khetani also threatened Kirkland with unleashing the wrath of “major muslim organizations” on her for her “insults”. He closed by telling Kirkland, “you can be sure that there are million of muslim activists as well that will do something about your foul statements…. your statements against Muslims and your direct insults will not go unheard, I assure you.”</strong></p>
<p>There you have it. It&#8217;s all her fault and now he&#8217;s threatening an American with Islamic retaliation. How pathetically typical. There is hope though. A google new check this morning showed only 6 stories. It&#8217;s now 111 and growing.</p>
<p>When Khetani made his threat he lost all options. Protest, yes! Boycott? Hell yes, it&#8217;s a now brainer. Second to deportation. End of story.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Gregor - My problem with general boycots (such as a day of not working/shopping/etc) are that the damage they do is quite dispersed. If everyone boycots and my aunt’s dog grooming store takes a hit ...

JadeNYU on January 23, 2007 at 4:43 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I agree Jade.  It wasn&#039;t me who suggested we boycott small businesses.  That was someone else.  My suggestion was a million people marching down center of town, holding up traffic, forcing our voices to be heard.  

Now, with that said.  There are certain times when I support massive boycotts of specific businesses, such as in this case with the Pakistani Muslim.  Other examples would be the Miller Brewing boycott and Wendy’s when they were busted hiring illegals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Gregor &#8211; My problem with general boycots (such as a day of not working/shopping/etc) are that the damage they do is quite dispersed. If everyone boycots and my aunt’s dog grooming store takes a hit &#8230;</p>
<p>JadeNYU on January 23, 2007 at 4:43 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree Jade.  It wasn&#8217;t me who suggested we boycott small businesses.  That was someone else.  My suggestion was a million people marching down center of town, holding up traffic, forcing our voices to be heard.  </p>
<p>Now, with that said.  There are certain times when I support massive boycotts of specific businesses, such as in this case with the Pakistani Muslim.  Other examples would be the Miller Brewing boycott and Wendy’s when they were busted hiring illegals.</p>
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		<title>By: Blog-o-Fascists</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blog-o-Fascists</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MamaAJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MamaAJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you send something to an APO address, you have to use US Mail, not UPS or FedEx and you have to fill out a form. So some business don&#039;t do it, either because of the extra work, they want to use UPS/FedEx only or maybe they&#039;ve had bad experiences with the packages not making it to the person.

Once, a family member shipped a package from San Francisco to me when we lived on Andrews Air Force Base. Like, ya know, the one in MARYLAND. The Post Office employee in SF made her fill out the APO form!! Saw &quot;AFB&quot; and didn&#039;t know the difference between an Air Force Base and an APO address. Not a lot of care packages going out of SF, I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you send something to an APO address, you have to use US Mail, not UPS or FedEx and you have to fill out a form. So some business don&#8217;t do it, either because of the extra work, they want to use UPS/FedEx only or maybe they&#8217;ve had bad experiences with the packages not making it to the person.</p>
<p>Once, a family member shipped a package from San Francisco to me when we lived on Andrews Air Force Base. Like, ya know, the one in MARYLAND. The Post Office employee in SF made her fill out the APO form!! Saw &#8220;AFB&#8221; and didn&#8217;t know the difference between an Air Force Base and an APO address. Not a lot of care packages going out of SF, I guess.</p>
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