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24, 10am – 11am: Open Thread, etc

posted at 8:09 pm on January 22, 2007 by Ian
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Here’s a preview to tonight’s hour:

I’m in L.A. tonight, so I will not see ‘24′ for a few hours. Enjoy!

As usual, leave a trackback if you’re blogging about ‘24′ tonight.

Wizbang also has an open thread. And one for Prison Break.


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RACIST!

RightWinged on January 22, 2007 at 8:13 PM

Dear Ian…I know you are a huge fan and it seems that the excitement for the show looks to be on the level of Trekies..but did you mean 10am – 11am or 10pm- 11pm? :)

Pam on January 22, 2007 at 8:14 PM

but did you mean 10am – 11am or 10pm- 11pm? :)

Pam on January 22, 2007 at 8:14 PM

I can tell you’re not a 24 fan. :) 10am-11am is the time that tonight’s episode covers in the 24 hour day that is a season of 24.

tiekitwist on January 22, 2007 at 8:16 PM

Thanks tiekit :)

Ian on January 22, 2007 at 8:19 PM

Time to turn off the computer, turn up the HD, pop the corn, grab a cold one, and enjoy Jack’s revenge.

steveegg on January 22, 2007 at 8:57 PM

Sometimes people forget that their local stations are in Hi-Def (or am i the only one?) so consider this a friendly reminder.

Scot on January 22, 2007 at 9:20 PM

Hey! The Admiral looks like Col. Hunt from Fox News.

So…is this about appeasing terrorists or about Presidents making mistakes? Or terrorists having regrets and trying to make good and US needing to work with them? Pretty complicated stuff.

jatfla on January 22, 2007 at 9:20 PM

Sorry, did’nt see steveegg’s post.

Scot on January 22, 2007 at 9:21 PM

Finally I’ll find out if I died quickly in the blast or if I’m wandering the streets of Valencia like a zombie horribly disfigured from radiation poisoning.

infidel4life on January 22, 2007 at 9:25 PM

The Bluetooth guy is Jack’s brother…interesting twist

flyboy777 on January 22, 2007 at 9:33 PM

NO way….that’s no brother of Jack’s!! Which # was he in?

jatfla on January 22, 2007 at 9:35 PM

The Bauer family reunion is going to be a short, exciting one.

steveegg on January 22, 2007 at 9:35 PM

“jack, i am your brother.”

what a shark jump.

jummy on January 22, 2007 at 9:38 PM

I’m more interested in Jack’s sister in law…

Centurion68 on January 22, 2007 at 9:47 PM

“he’s going to have to sell himself to the others…”

shlurp shlurp grunt

jummy on January 22, 2007 at 9:53 PM

Brotherly love!

flyboy777 on January 22, 2007 at 9:54 PM

Needs a new speech writer….

jatfla on January 22, 2007 at 9:56 PM

Speaking of Trekies, while we established Doctor Bashir’s role in 24, is that Lt. Tom Paris as the FBI agent telling Sister Palmer to keep quiet?

Wineaholic on January 22, 2007 at 10:07 PM

Now, I’m all for Jack beating the crap out of new and interesting people. I was hoping they’d introduce a Keith Olbermann or Dan Rather type journalist who was holding information vital to national defense that Jack could beat and torture out of them… but the evil puppeteer guy is Jack’s brother? Believe me, after last season, I wanted that little bald douchebag to have his hash settled, but for him to show up as Jack’s brother…who the hell approved that script concept? I can handle Jack’s dad showing up as a name on a list but Jack’s brother is the evil puppeteer? And how did we get to tie to the chair, grocery store bag over the head level already? Does Jack know his brother was behind that mess last season? Or does he always do that to his brother? Why does Jack’s nephew look just like Kim? I’m almost afraid to see what happens next..

austinnelly on January 22, 2007 at 10:10 PM

I liked the ‘bomb them back into the stone age’ remark. That would be my choice.

docdave on January 22, 2007 at 10:15 PM

I thought Jack’s brother lost an arm in a Chopper accident when he worked as a surgeon in Chicago, then died later as another chopper fell on top of him.

I’ll bet he’s a sleeper against for Dr. Brasheer. That type of planning takes a genetically enhanced brain….

My head hurts….

Dr. Gecko on January 22, 2007 at 10:19 PM

If the president of the United States got on TV after a nuclear bomb with a wimpy speech like that, I’d be pissed. This is my first season with 24 and I’m hooked. I love it!

ekuspa40 on January 22, 2007 at 10:24 PM

OH HELL NO!!!

NOT JACKS BROTHER!

And is dad a limp wristed noodle nibbler?

csdeven on January 22, 2007 at 10:33 PM

The feelings that the cast are portraying in these past two episodes: in effect, the sense of ‘post-nuked America’ , rings so emotionally illiterate that the show has lost itself in its planned rhetoric, forgetting that you convince at the solar plexus even more than in the neo-cortex. Especially with drama.

The actors need to be expressing something like: the hollowed-out sense of dread, as well as blistering fury, that everyone conscious felt freeze and boil in their gut on the morning of 9/11/2001 …and then amplify it times a hundred thousand lives (or times the “light of a thousand suns”).

It would be hard for a “series” writer to imagine this kind of stunned horror and targetless rage into a set of “actions”, but the actors should have been able to say: “Look, a nuke just went off, and we’re behaving like the Bomb was one-more quickly-digestible ‘bad experience’… we aren’t shown as the recovering mass-wounded, or, that, even if we are faking ‘normalcy’ perfectly, the madness would still seep through and reveal us all as a nation staggering around… in a state of half-sleepwalker, half-berserker. And venting Dantean bile against the homicidal fools who forgot that our history is fertilized by the bones of those who fatally crossed us.”

If the actors and writers can’t conjure any existential darkness about a goddamned nuclear attack, what would move them?

Ten?

Fifty?

profitsbeard on January 22, 2007 at 10:35 PM

WHOA!!!…….THE “MYSTERY GUY” from LAST SEASON is Jack’s BROTHER????? How about some King Lear references? WOW..GREAT TWIST!
And if the Pres’s Sister keeps being a pain in the behind..I think they just need to DECK her! I am already REALLY tired of her character!
But..WOW…”you are hurting me”…”Trust me..I’m not”…to his own BROTHER! JACK IS BACK!

labwrs on January 22, 2007 at 10:37 PM

profitsbeard on January 22, 2007 at 10:35 PM

Jack is expected to quickly digest everything. That’s why he’s Jack.

:-)

PS…I guess Jacks Dad has actual girlfriends.

csdeven on January 22, 2007 at 10:40 PM

People I’d like to see slapped silly…

Kim Bauer
The Pres’ sister
the chief of staff

csdeven on January 22, 2007 at 10:44 PM

Infidel…….so which is it? You chomping on arm bones right now or sipping suds?

Limerick on January 22, 2007 at 10:51 PM

Well, HE’S no David Palmer. What a whimp!

csdeven on January 22, 2007 at 10:58 PM

The creator of warp drive, Zefram Cochran, is Jack’s father!

/Star Trek references: OFF

JG2K6 on January 22, 2007 at 11:12 PM

Infidel…….so which is it? You chomping on arm bones right now or sipping suds?

Limerick on January 22, 2007 at 10:51 PM

Don’t know yet, the show comes on in about 45 min on the left coast.

infidel4life on January 22, 2007 at 11:17 PM

How about we get a poll going on who the next former Star Trek actor will make a cameo? This is getting crazy. I’m putting my money on some Star Trek: Enterprise character, though to be fair, I doubt anyone (including myself) would recognize most of them…

Wineaholic on January 22, 2007 at 11:41 PM

does he always do that to his brother?

torture is like nuggies with the bauer boys.

i agree that i’m not feeling the post-nuke milieu in either the script or performances. and that speech did suck.

i like the actress playing palmer’s sister, so i’m sticking with her. i think she and the fbi guy will be making out in two episodes. wadda you think?

i’m pretty dissapointed overall that bluetooth guy character is being spent up so early and so cheaply.

the startrek stuff is pretty shocking i gotta say.

jummy on January 22, 2007 at 11:47 PM

Okay Ian and tiekit..after reading this comment section, it sounds like a show I could easily love! I should probably get DVD’s if available so that I go in chronological order! It sounds like the show is wonderful!

Pam on January 22, 2007 at 11:57 PM

Speaking of Trekies, while we established Doctor Bashir’s role in 24, is that Lt. Tom Paris as the FBI agent telling Sister Palmer to keep quiet?

No. It’s Scott William Winters, who played Cyril O’Reilly from Oz on HBO.

I thought Jack’s brother lost an arm in a Chopper accident when he worked as a surgeon in Chicago, then died later as another chopper fell on top of him.

And even before that, Robocop dropped a bunch of toxic sludge on him and he got splatted by a big-ass car. The dude is resilient!

I agree that they’re doing a terrible job of selling the whole “major American city getting nuked” thing. That and my other totally racist thoughts on the episode are here.

Jim Treacher on January 23, 2007 at 12:35 AM

Not Star Trek but I’ll point out that Buchannan was also McQueen on “Space Above and Beyond.” . . . Wait a minute, if you squint and turn your head to the side, 24 is actually Sci-Fi!!

- The Cat

MirCat on January 23, 2007 at 12:50 AM

I can already see the ending.
“That’ll do,Jack,That’ll do”

bbz123 on January 23, 2007 at 1:02 AM

Wow, the twists keep getting better and better.

Ian on January 23, 2007 at 1:05 AM

I’m sorry, but the show just jumped the shark with the revelation that Jack’s brother is the “Puppet Master.”

The post nuclear attack scenerio also isn’t very realistic. Too many cars with electronic ignitions are still functioning. The cell phone network is still functional and not either down from EMP or jammed from everybody trying to use it all at once. Not a single computer (or TV receiver) depicted was fried from the EMP burst, either. Then the President, who has a speech written WITHIN ONE HOUR of the detonation goes on the air and DOES NOT proclaim martial law, either in the LA area or in the rest of the country (though it was mentioned that all air traffic was suspended as it was on 9/11).

But, I’m willing to accept all of that.

However, having Jack’s own brother being the mastermind, the evil mind behind the earlier plot involving the use of WMD against his own country and repeated attempts to murder Jack, with Jack being totally clueless and in the dark about it …. well, that makes it impossible to suspend disbelief.

Maybe the motivation as to WHY his brother is such a monster will be illuminated. From the promo for NEXT week, it looks like his father may be involved, too.

Which begs this question: WHO DID THE SECURITY CLEARANCE BACKGROUND CHECK on Jack, and why did they miss the fact that Jack’s family is seriously BENT?

georgej on January 23, 2007 at 4:51 AM

BAUER 2008

Viper1 on January 23, 2007 at 5:53 AM

Now, I’m all for Jack beating the crap out of new and interesting people. …

austinnelly on January 22, 2007 at 10:10 PM

That drew a laugh.

Kralizec on January 23, 2007 at 8:17 AM

I’m pretty sure the effects of EMP are greatly reduced by a ground burst explosion. And it only lasts for a few seconds. Jack et al, would obviously have their own celluar system seperate from the civilian system. Not withatanding all that, yeah, this show is pretty far out there…BUT I LOVE IT! The twists and turns are pretty clever.

The part I find interesting is that Jacks nephew is probably his love child with his now sis in law. He is one sissy looking fem-boy…like a boy version of Kim. When the Mom told the boy to give his father some privacy, I got the impression she was talking about Jack.

I get the feeling that eventually the previous president will appear and all 6 seasons will connect into one big massive plot.

Jumped the shark? I haven’t gotten that feeling yet, but I suspend a lot of expectations of reality when watching this show.

csdeven on January 23, 2007 at 8:53 AM

Ian, what exactly do you contribute to this site other than talk about TV shows and one-dimensional he-said-she-said articles.

Are you doing more important work behind the scenes that we do not know about, or are these miserable efforts the total of your entire contribution here?

MKR on January 23, 2007 at 9:58 AM

MKR, you obviously know nothing about Ian. At his previous site, his “TV talk” and “one-dimensional he-said-she-said articles” garnered him over 4,000,000 hits over a very short period of time. Trust me on this – my readers miss him very much; they tell me all the time on my site.

MsUnderestimated on January 23, 2007 at 10:14 AM

MsUnderestimated,

I know more about The Political Teen than you think.

MKR on January 23, 2007 at 10:18 AM

MsUnderestimated,

I enjoy how you defend his work on *this* site by talking about his work on his previous site.

You’ve convinced me.

MKR on January 23, 2007 at 10:20 AM

MKR, this is a post about “24.” Stick to the subject at hand.

MsUnderestimated on January 23, 2007 at 10:22 AM

Ok.

24 sucks.

MKR on January 23, 2007 at 10:24 AM

MKR=doesn’t play well with others.

harrison on January 23, 2007 at 11:13 AM

I never watched the show until this season, so I’m 5 hours into it.

1. This is an utterly terrible TV show. The plot twists and the script are laughable.

2. KS is pretty good in his role, which calls for displaying all the emotions of a human being from “A to B”. Everyone else in the cast stops at “A”.

3. OK, now . . . I want Jack to bitch slap the president’s sister. Frequently.

4. I want the torture of Jack’s bro to last at least another 45 minutes.

5. How long before we find out Jack’s “nephew” is his son?

6. I agree with the post about Jack’s security clearance. Uh, didnt the brains think anything was strange that Jack’s last name is really Bin Laden?

7. The president is a terrorist.

8. What the show reminds me of is the Captain America type weekly cliffhangers that used to show in the theaters in the 40s. Its not much beyond that.

Labamigo on January 23, 2007 at 12:01 PM

Is it me or is Jack’s nephew a little too…..handsome…to be the brother’s kid? i think he is jack jr.

mark my words. their use of foreshadowing is as subtle as an mkr comment….

coondawg on January 23, 2007 at 12:21 PM

Ian, what exactly do you contribute to this site other than talk about TV shows and one-dimensional he-said-she-said articles.

Are you doing more important work behind the scenes that we do not know about, or are these miserable efforts the total of your entire contribution here?

Way to unleash the nasty, MKR. Did Ian kill your dog or something?

I’m sorry, but the show just jumped the shark with the revelation that Jack’s brother is the “Puppet Master.”

Eh. The show jumped the shark with “COUGAR ATTACK!” in season two, but I watch it because it’s entertaining as all heck.

Slublog on January 23, 2007 at 12:58 PM

I know more about The Political Teen than you think.

There’s a line begging for a zinger. Please continue the off topic slap fight. I need a good laugh.

austinnelly on January 23, 2007 at 1:27 PM

If you’re going to play “Jump the Shark,” you have to go all the way back to Nina Myers. And you probably shouldn’t be watching the show because it’s not for you. It is inherently shark-proof.

Jim Treacher on January 23, 2007 at 5:21 PM

I pretty much agree with the posts by profitsbeard and georgej above. The president and his WH staff are not acting like a nuke went off, and Karen Hayes whining about civil liberties and the constitution after a freakin’ nuke went off on American soil makes me want to shove a sock in her idiotic mouth. She was a bad character last year, this year she’s exponentially worse.

Hard to believe a dork like that is Jack’s brother. I would think being Jack’s brother would toughen you up. Can you imagine the torturous atomic wedgies Jack gave him while screaming at the top of his lungs “WHERE’S YOUR LUNCH MONEY????”

The lack of EMP from the atomic blast that was previously mentioned is also something that raises a red flag with me. I’m no expert on the subject, but I would think even a ground detonation would pretty much screw electronics in a radius much wider than the blast radius.

And Wayne Palmer is starting to make Jimmy Carter look like John Wayne.

I guess I shouldn’t complain, the show is in its 6th season, and they have had some good ones.

thirteen28 on January 23, 2007 at 7:02 PM

I think it’s great to get off of politics for a while and discuss an enjoyable show like ‘24′. My family wouldn’t miss it. Entertainment, folks. And if it hits a few liberal nerves, all the better.

Rose on January 23, 2007 at 7:32 PM

Thanks, everybody… who is this MKR character? After I defended Ian here (by the way, Ian, my t/b still didn’t go through), MKR “jumped the shark” over to my site to pontificate there.

Anybody know?

MsUnderestimated on January 23, 2007 at 8:28 PM

Or care?

Jim Treacher on January 24, 2007 at 5:54 AM

I don’t.

MKR on January 24, 2007 at 7:17 AM

test foundation finance financed finances hotair.com money michellemalkin.com paid michelle jesse

MKR on February 9, 2007 at 4:49 PM

damnit. lol.

MKR on February 9, 2007 at 4:49 PM

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