Jamilgate: U.S. officers tell Michelle “burning six” incident didn’t happen

posted at 10:16 am on January 21, 2007 by Allahpundit

Her Sunday column for the Post is live and photos of the four Hurriya mosques are up at MM.com. Video will appear on this site tomorrow. Quote:

Bryan Preston and I visited the area during our Iraq trip last week. Several mosques did, in fact, come under attack by Mahdi Army forces. But the “destroyed” mosques all still stand. Iraqi and U.S. Army officials say that two of them received no fire damage whatsoever. Another, which we filmed, was abandoned and empty when it was attacked…

Capt. Aaron Kaufman of Task Force Justice, which works closely with the Iraqi Army battalion that was on the scene and monitored events as they happened, told us: “It was blown way out of proportion, there was nobody lit on fire.”

Capt. Stacy Bare, the civil-affairs officer who took us on patrol in Hurriya, concurred: “There were no six Sunnis burned.”…

Lt. Col. Steven Miska, commander of the Dagger Brigade at Forward Operating Base Justice, observed: “Part of it is, if you’re relying on Iraqi reporters, well, what are their biases? What clans are they from and tribes? Why are they telling me this? What’s his underlying motivation? And if you quote a police chief, well, those guys have underlying motivations, too . . .”

“I’ve gone out and found police chiefs on the street and said, ‘What happened here?’ Something just blew up and he told me, ‘Well, U.S. airplanes just bombed this building.’

“I said, ‘What are you talking about? It was freakin’ insurgent rockets that just hit the building, I picked them up on radar.’ ” But he just told the reporter on the street that U.S. warplanes bombed the building and killed 13 people…

Deception and manipulation are also tools of the insurgent trade. Satellites, cellphones and Internet cafes aid insurgent and militia propaganda wars 24/7.

It behooves the Western media to acknowledge these realities and maintain as much transparency about their sources and local stringers as possible.

Update: Video of the Hurriya mosques is now posted.

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But, but, it had to be true! The AP said so! Clearly Michelle Malkin is biased in favor of military sources!\sarc off

I can’t wait to hear how the enemedia tries to spin this. “Jamil Hussein” reminds me of that dead guy on M*A*S*H that they completely fabricated.

ReubenJCogburn on January 21, 2007 at 10:28 AM

Typical, Typical, Typical ! The mainstream media has out shown itself. That’s the way to track down a source. As for the ” AP “; apparently ‘M*A*S*H’ is their source of tactical information on how to conduct a war. Or, even surviving a war.

oldelpasoan on January 21, 2007 at 10:55 AM

Well, we all knew….and now the rest of the MSM? Will it be even mentioned?

AP, Michelle’s third line above ends a little abruptly.

shooter on January 21, 2007 at 10:57 AM

nevermind, my mistake.
?????

shooter on January 21, 2007 at 11:00 AM

It behooves the Western media to acknowledge these realities and maintain as much transparency about their sources and local stringers as possible.

And Hell is a comfy 72.

Limerick on January 21, 2007 at 11:29 AM

I refuse to believe that the AP lied. They have only my best interest in mind, that’s why they tell me how to vote and why I should be a muslim.

Have you people not respect for an organization that knows you’re too dumb to make your own choices based on fact? The DNC can’t do it alone!!

Kudos to the AP for stepping up and tieing up the DNCs loose ends on misinformation proliferation!!

Ringmaster on January 21, 2007 at 11:34 AM

From a different yet similar perspective, back home in the good old USA …..

“Part of it is, if you’re relying on Iraqi MSM reporters, well, what are their biases? What clans newspapers are they from and tribes networks? Why are they telling me this? What’s his the underlying motivation? And if you quote a police chief CNN reporter, well, those guys have underlying motivations, too . . .”

No explanation necessary Lt. Col. Steven Miska, we have to put up with the same propaganda here. You just have to know who are your friends and who are your enemies.

fogw on January 21, 2007 at 11:45 AM

Nice work Michelle!

“The DNC can’t do it alone!!” – Ringmaster

Bwah! Hahahahaaaaaa!

Tony737 on January 21, 2007 at 11:56 AM

Good one, fogw!

IrishEi on January 21, 2007 at 11:56 AM

This reminds me of a arm wrestling match. The kind where the guy that is losing will not give up until the other snaps his arm. The AP wouldn’t give, so Michelle had to just rip it right out of the socket!

Theworldisnotenough on January 21, 2007 at 12:02 PM

What a damn shame Michelle and Bryan have to risk life and limb to bring the obvious to light. In war, the truth is always being shaped and sculpted, made perfect for the meassage of the day. All sides do it, but how sad our drive-by media willingly allows itself to be the pawn of the enemy. The drive-bys will move heaven and earth to investigate the Pentagon hoping to find inaccuracies while contributing to the propaganda war in favor of the enemy…

ritethinker on January 21, 2007 at 12:10 PM

The ‘Woodward’ model of journalism……fame at ANY price.

‘Truth, Justice, and all that stuff’

Limerick on January 21, 2007 at 12:12 PM

Good work and thanks for pursuing the truth when others didnt want it pursued.

Now begins the chant on the left that “While this story might not be true it does represent what is going on in Iraq”

In other words fake but accurate.

If these things are going on in Iraq then there is no reason to quote fake stories to represent what is going on.

Finally isnt just AP News here. Rueters is doing the same theing and NY Times and Washington post and others all quote these two organizations for their news.

Add to that sites like iraqibodycount who have extensively used AP NEws and rueters to do their count you can see how bad a scandle this has become.

William Amos on January 21, 2007 at 12:38 PM

If the AP and Reuters doesn’t want to follow up their stories by interviewing OUR guys I guess that’s what they get. To protect their selves they could become the question mark reporting source. The half measure in reporting. Headline: “Six Sunnis burned alive?” And that way the AP reporters can stay in there little “air conditioned rooms” and not worry about false reporting or their local stringer’s validity.

Drtuddle on January 21, 2007 at 2:00 PM

Devastating.

This should be published in every major newspaper.

WisCon on January 21, 2007 at 2:00 PM

AP News should just have the guts to say “We made a mistake sorry and we retract our stories”

Instead we have gotten arrogance and denials and silence from them.

Step up and admit you were wrong AP !

William Amos on January 21, 2007 at 2:06 PM

We all know that the associate press and Reuters LIES. We all know that that New York Times and the Washington Post LIES. We know that most of the media lies; that it is deliberate and that it has a purpose.

We know why, too.

Michelle and Bryan are “preaching to the choir” here.

The question is WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT IT?

You bloggers continue to catch them in their lies, even though Michelle and Bryan had to go to Iraq to prove it. Are they liars going to retract now? Nope. They will just ignore this the way they ignore EVERYTHING that exposes their agenda. In other words, who, besides us, is ever going to know the truth?

What’s the next step?

Part of me says that unless we convince the American people of how badly these leftists at the Ministry of Propaganda (The Times, Post, AP, Reuters, CBS, NBC, CNN, etc.) are deceiving America, we will not only lose the war on terrorism, but America itself.

Look, WE ARE NOT EVER GOING TO GET THE MEDIA TO ADMIT THAT THEY ARE DELIBERTELY LYING. And they are deliberately lying; they KNOW that Jamill doesn’t exist. They KNOW that mosques were not destroyed. They KNOW that they are being used as conduits by our enemies. How do we (1) get the American people to repudiate the MSM? (2) get the MSM to stop lying, (3) get the truth out to the millions of people who listen to the networks, read the Times, TIME Mag, etc., and haven’t the slightest clue that they have been deliberately lied to for partisan political reasons?

How do we get the message across that the American people are being lied to by the press? Waiting for viewership/circulation numbers to tank (which is happening, but slowly) is going to take much too long.

georgej on January 21, 2007 at 2:57 PM

For the record, I steadfastly claimed scandal as this story vacillated back and forth. (As did many here.) As the honorable georgej said, “what do we do about it.” I intend to measure the coverage going forward against the MSM’s reporting of JH’s existence and our supposed table-setting of crow. I expect FNC to cover this as a way of backing up their “gauntlet throwing” adds. Talk radio needs to get on this next week. (My money’s on Medved.) Rush needs to blast away. Hugh Hewitt is a lock. Then they all need to slap in a full magazine, release the slide, and continue blasting until the AP looks like the USS Cole after a pit stop in Yemen. Only then is there a chance the AP will attempt a face-saving, half-hearted, non-retraction. Then and only then will the MSM even consider reporting a heavily spun version of the quasi-truth.

Buck Turgidson on January 21, 2007 at 4:37 PM

I say we need more Pentagon employees leaking blatent lies.

Pssssst…. America set up a base on the Jupiter Moon of Io…. to trace cell phone calls!!!

Ringmaster on January 21, 2007 at 8:43 PM

Excellent work by Michelle and Bryan.
AP however, will continue making up their news as long as they have customers – all those local newspapers and radio stations who buy their product. Here is where the absence of a rational, reasonably fair wire service is really hurting the country. There is no alternative for papers who want to provide national and international news. Letters to the editor, cancelling subscriptions, demanding equal time, unless the papers are swamped with such complaints, they’ll still buy AP past-the-shelf-date product. The internet isn’t widespread enough yet to compensate.

naliaka on January 21, 2007 at 8:49 PM

AP News should just have the guts to say “We made a mistake sorry and we retract our stories”

Instead we have gotten arrogance and denials and silence from them.

Step up and admit you were wrong AP !

William Amos on January 21, 2007 at 2:06 PM

William, Dan Rather and cBS still won’t admit their mistake(s) and they are supposedly an American news source.

R D on January 21, 2007 at 8:54 PM

AP and Reuters. The two organizations most responsible for reinvigorating that old cliché:
“I don’t believe anything that I hear, and I only believe half of what I see.”

CyberCipher on January 21, 2007 at 9:14 PM

This has got to be exposed nationally. Through the internet is how this was found, and through the internet is how this dishonesty of the press will be found out. Instead of the ridiculously redundent jokes passed on using the internet, links to stories like these, should be passed.
One thing I wondered while reading the comments is, has JH been quoted since the six burning Sunnis?

oakpack on January 21, 2007 at 10:04 PM

Wait…I thought HotAir and SluBlog had conceded victory to the Associated Press after AP declared that there “really is a Jamil Hussein”. How could that not have been true?

Jaibones on January 21, 2007 at 10:45 PM

And speaking of conceding victory: Bears vs. Colts.

Bear down, Chicago Bears…

Jaibones on January 21, 2007 at 10:47 PM

We’re comming for you AP. Do you hear it? The so-called “professional journalist” is the new “former travel agent. You will be gone faster than you can say Priceline or Travelocity. In fact it’s happening now. When we’re done with you, we’re comming for the “entertainers”. Allhu-freakin-akbar, Bitches!

January 19, 2007 — THE bloodbath at Time Inc. turned out to be worse than many had anticipated, with the final number of staff cuts swelling to 289 workers and Time, People and Sports Illustrated taking the heaviest hits.
Most of the cutbacks are coming from the editorial side, where the headcount is slated to drop by 172 people, evenly split between 86 voluntary departures and 86 forced layoffs. The business side is losing 117 people.
“It’s like a funeral,” said one editorial insider, who is mulling whether or not to take a buyout package. “I think everyone is too scared to be ticked off or to show they are angry.

Buck Turgidson on January 21, 2007 at 11:51 PM

I can’t wait to hear how the enemedia tries to spin this. “Jamil Hussein” reminds me of that dead guy on M*A*S*H that they completely fabricated.

That’s a great analogy for those that remember it and for the life of me, I COULDN’T think of it….until…..

Captain Tuttle!!!

HarryStar on January 22, 2007 at 3:29 AM

OK, now that we’ve got that out of the way, did the AP get this story from IP Captain Jamil X? Does he exist as an AP source?

You guys are rocking the world. New media lives!

Pablo on January 22, 2007 at 8:53 AM

You guys are rocking the world. New media lives!

Pablo on January 22, 2007 at 8:53 AM

Congrats to those who knew this story was bullshit and actually did what journalists are supposed to do to find out. All honors to you.

Jaibones on January 22, 2007 at 9:03 AM

AP News should just have the guts to say “We made a mistake

sorry and we retract our stories”

Instead we have gotten arrogance and denials and silence from them.

Step up and admit you were wrong AP !

William Amos on January 21, 2007 at 2:06 PM

The left does not apologize, just read the left wing bloggers on HA. When caught in a lie, or a mistake, they run and hide. I have never seen one left wing blogger admit they are wrong. They don’t have to, they just walk away from the computer, and post another day. The MSM does the same, we don’t hold their feet to the fire, and they just post another day.

right2bright on January 22, 2007 at 9:29 AM

For the sake of clarity, I wish to state my comment yesterday about blasting a hole in the AP referred to their credibility and in no way should be taken literally. Any reference to firing at them was meant as, with criticism. I don’t want my meaning twisted, and will watch the metaphors in the future.

Buck Turgidson on January 22, 2007 at 1:02 PM

The AP lied and people died….great work Michelle and Bryan

robo on January 22, 2007 at 3:14 PM

Jamilgate: U.S. officers tell Michelle “burning six” incident didn’t happen

posted at 10:16 am on January 21, 2007 by Allahpundit

U.S. Officers told us nothing happened at Haditha. And what about what they had to say about Jessica Lynch, or Pat Tillman? The toppling of the Hussein statue anyone? What about Fallujah? Have you forgotten what U.S. officers had to say about events there? White phosphorus, cluster bombs, napalm ring any bells?

When Mrs Malkin admits to being nothing more than an apologist and mouthpiece for the government will be when I have found the moment I’ve been waiting for.

THeDRiFTeR on January 22, 2007 at 7:24 PM

The AP lied and people died….great work Michelle and Bryan

robo on January 22, 2007 at 3:14 PM

You see, you even have some of the rabid elements accusing them of causing death. Jesus Christ robo, get a clue.

THeDRiFTeR on January 22, 2007 at 7:25 PM

When Mrs Malkin admits to being nothing more than an apologist and mouthpiece for the government will be when I have found the moment I’ve been waiting for.

THeDRiFTeR on January 22, 2007 at 7:24 PM

LOL sorry drifter but you can wait all you want. The left gets caught lying all the time so I guess its far easier for someone on the left to be upset when they catch someone on the right taking away their natural turf

William Amos on January 22, 2007 at 8:41 PM