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	<title>Comments on: Fauxtography: Reuters fired unnamed photo editor over Adnan Hajj pics</title>
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		<title>By: DavePa</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavePa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 04:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite of the Reuters Fauxtography photos was the Lebanese ambulance that was &quot;struck by an Israeli missile&quot;.  A close look at that rusted-out, worn-out hulk of an ambulance showed even a layman like myself that the alleged missile strike hole in the center of the roof was a flange for an ambulance light. 

Not only that but the area around the flange was all badly rusted, to a degree that would take much longer than a week or two to oxidize. In other words, it was most likely an old junked ambulance with no visible evidence of being struck by anything.  

One can reasonably surmise the junk ambulance was apparently conveniently available for a propaganda photo. Careless, sloppy work for propaganda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite of the Reuters Fauxtography photos was the Lebanese ambulance that was &#8220;struck by an Israeli missile&#8221;.  A close look at that rusted-out, worn-out hulk of an ambulance showed even a layman like myself that the alleged missile strike hole in the center of the roof was a flange for an ambulance light. </p>
<p>Not only that but the area around the flange was all badly rusted, to a degree that would take much longer than a week or two to oxidize. In other words, it was most likely an old junked ambulance with no visible evidence of being struck by anything.  </p>
<p>One can reasonably surmise the junk ambulance was apparently conveniently available for a propaganda photo. Careless, sloppy work for propaganda.</p>
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		<title>By: gekkobear</title>
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		<dc:creator>gekkobear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, the company I work for does this as well.

Sorry about the data corruption on your system.  We&#039;ve... um... fired three unnamed developers over this.

No really, we fired them, but we can&#039;t tell anyone their names.  But it&#039;s a bold stance by us to clarify how important this is.

Later, in a team meeting &quot;Guys, try to stop doing this, we&#039;ve fired 439 &#039;unnamed&#039; developers this month alone&quot;.

&lt;em&gt;Ok, maybe the above is entirely fictional, but how would you know the difference?&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the company I work for does this as well.</p>
<p>Sorry about the data corruption on your system.  We&#8217;ve&#8230; um&#8230; fired three unnamed developers over this.</p>
<p>No really, we fired them, but we can&#8217;t tell anyone their names.  But it&#8217;s a bold stance by us to clarify how important this is.</p>
<p>Later, in a team meeting &#8220;Guys, try to stop doing this, we&#8217;ve fired 439 &#8216;unnamed&#8217; developers this month alone&#8221;.</p>
<p><em>Ok, maybe the above is entirely fictional, but how would you know the difference?</em></p>
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		<title>By: Perchant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perchant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that Reuters has had the opportunity to question their editors and go thru their photo archive looking for more fakery, will they inform the public of the deceptions they&#039;ve discovered so that people don&#039;t continue to get wrong impressions if they see these images?

It seems like a question that Reuters would be forced to answer even if Michelle Malkin or Charles Johnson made the inquiry. If they lie and say there were no others they will be challenging lots of people to prove them wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that Reuters has had the opportunity to question their editors and go thru their photo archive looking for more fakery, will they inform the public of the deceptions they&#8217;ve discovered so that people don&#8217;t continue to get wrong impressions if they see these images?</p>
<p>It seems like a question that Reuters would be forced to answer even if Michelle Malkin or Charles Johnson made the inquiry. If they lie and say there were no others they will be challenging lots of people to prove them wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: RightWinged.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>RightWinged.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 18:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Fauxtography Update: Reuters Stealthily Fires Photo Editor...&lt;/strong&gt;

In the unlikely event that you have no idea what &quot;fauxtography&quot; is, and the story of how Reuters and their stringer Adnan Hajj made it famous (which was really just the tipping of the first domino), see my archives in......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Fauxtography Update: Reuters Stealthily Fires Photo Editor&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>In the unlikely event that you have no idea what &#8220;fauxtography&#8221; is, and the story of how Reuters and their stringer Adnan Hajj made it famous (which was really just the tipping of the first domino), see my archives in&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Entelechy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Entelechy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 18:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;em&gt;Partisan political operatives&lt;/em&gt;&quot; - Dan Rather

&quot;&lt;em&gt;Mad blog rabble&lt;/em&gt;&quot; - Kathleen Carroll 

and, wearing badge with honor, our deity, AP:

&lt;blockquote&gt;one of the right-wing bloggers whose “&lt;em&gt;wild and hateful claims&lt;/em&gt;” helped destroy CBS’s story about the Bush National Guard memos, which pleases him to no end&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<em>Partisan political operatives</em>&#8221; &#8211; Dan Rather</p>
<p>&#8220;<em>Mad blog rabble</em>&#8221; &#8211; Kathleen Carroll </p>
<p>and, wearing badge with honor, our deity, AP:</p>
<blockquote><p>one of the right-wing bloggers whose “<em>wild and hateful claims</em>” helped destroy CBS’s story about the Bush National Guard memos, which pleases him to no end</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: dinasour</title>
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		<dc:creator>dinasour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 17:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I strongly recommend that everyone check out the commentary on this at LGF.

There is lots of interesting things being discussed.

For example:

What&#039;s our old buddy Hajj doing these days? Why so quiet? Settlement and gag agreement, perhaps? Another pseudonym, perhaps?

One reason, you might fire an editor so quickly and quietly is because it was the editor, not Hajj who did the doctoring. It is on thing to have to pull the work a single fauxtographer, and quite another to have to pull the work of an entire editoral desk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I strongly recommend that everyone check out the commentary on this at LGF.</p>
<p>There is lots of interesting things being discussed.</p>
<p>For example:</p>
<p>What&#8217;s our old buddy Hajj doing these days? Why so quiet? Settlement and gag agreement, perhaps? Another pseudonym, perhaps?</p>
<p>One reason, you might fire an editor so quickly and quietly is because it was the editor, not Hajj who did the doctoring. It is on thing to have to pull the work a single fauxtographer, and quite another to have to pull the work of an entire editoral desk.</p>
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		<title>By: seejanemom</title>
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		<dc:creator>seejanemom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 17:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That smoke looks PITIFUL. A monkey with a mouse could have done better.

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;HOLLYWOOD COULDN&#039;T MAKE SMOKE THAT UNIFORMLY PERFECT....reeeedamndiculous....&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That smoke looks PITIFUL. A monkey with a mouse could have done better.</p>
<p><strong><em>HOLLYWOOD COULDN&#8217;T MAKE SMOKE THAT UNIFORMLY PERFECT&#8230;.reeeedamndiculous&#8230;.</em></strong></p>
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		<title>By: Mazztek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mazztek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 17:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s put these quotes in perspective....

&quot;There was absolutely no intention on Reuters part to mislead the public.&quot;

&quot;I did not have sexual relations with that woman.&quot;

&quot;If it doesn&#039;t fit, you must aquit.&quot;

others?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s put these quotes in perspective&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;There was absolutely no intention on Reuters part to mislead the public.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I did not have sexual relations with that woman.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;If it doesn&#8217;t fit, you must aquit.&#8221;</p>
<p>others?</p>
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		<title>By: The Jawa Report</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Jawa Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 17:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Reuters Editor Also Terminated...&lt;/strong&gt;

Take me on a Rocket Ride...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Reuters Editor Also Terminated&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Take me on a Rocket Ride&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Perchant</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/01/19/fauxtography-reuters-fired-unnamed-photo-editor-over-adnan-hajj-pics/comment-page-1/#comment-191760</link>
		<dc:creator>Perchant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If some other company or a political administration was accused of some non-criminal but serious scandal and an internal investigation was done which led to someone being fired and the accused company or administration refused to divulge the name of the terminated; wouldn&#039;t Reuters and every other media source be shouting the loudest and righteously so?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If some other company or a political administration was accused of some non-criminal but serious scandal and an internal investigation was done which led to someone being fired and the accused company or administration refused to divulge the name of the terminated; wouldn&#8217;t Reuters and every other media source be shouting the loudest and righteously so?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill's Bites</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill's Bites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Fauxtography: Reuters fired unnamed photo editor over Adnan Hajj pics...&lt;/strong&gt;

Reuters Quietly Fired Top Editor During Photoshop Scandal Charles Johnson (H/T: Michelle) A very interesting report at Photo District News has new information about the Reuters Photoshop scandal: Reuters Investigation Leads To Dismissal Of Editor. (Hat...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Fauxtography: Reuters fired unnamed photo editor over Adnan Hajj pics&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Reuters Quietly Fired Top Editor During Photoshop Scandal Charles Johnson (H/T: Michelle) A very interesting report at Photo District News has new information about the Reuters Photoshop scandal: Reuters Investigation Leads To Dismissal Of Editor. (Hat&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Iblis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iblis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are we actually seeing the blastocyst of media accountability here? Eh, probably not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we actually seeing the blastocyst of media accountability here? Eh, probably not.</p>
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		<title>By: labwrs</title>
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		<dc:creator>labwrs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curiouser and curiouser.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curiouser and curiouser&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Gregor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any time a scandal reaches the point where &quot;unnamed&quot; employees are fired ... it&#039;s the beginning of another scandal.

Nobody was fired.  It&#039;s a sham.  It&#039;s a routine to end a controversy by issuing a press release announcing that you have concluded an internal investigation and fired the people responsible, although you leave those people &quot;unnamed&quot; as to render it unverifiable.  At this point, the angry mobs all somehow feel justice is done and retreat to their holes in the ground.

&quot;Unnamed source&quot; = fiction
&quot;Unnamed employee&quot; = fiction</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any time a scandal reaches the point where &#8220;unnamed&#8221; employees are fired &#8230; it&#8217;s the beginning of another scandal.</p>
<p>Nobody was fired.  It&#8217;s a sham.  It&#8217;s a routine to end a controversy by issuing a press release announcing that you have concluded an internal investigation and fired the people responsible, although you leave those people &#8220;unnamed&#8221; as to render it unverifiable.  At this point, the angry mobs all somehow feel justice is done and retreat to their holes in the ground.</p>
<p>&#8220;Unnamed source&#8221; = fiction<br />
&#8220;Unnamed employee&#8221; = fiction</p>
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		<title>By: RightWinged</title>
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		<dc:creator>RightWinged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GET OVER IT YOU STUPID NEOCONS!  He Hajj was just removing a scratch!  Anyone could see that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GET OVER IT YOU STUPID NEOCONS!  He Hajj was just removing a scratch!  Anyone could see that!</p>
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		<title>By: tickleddragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>tickleddragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is amazing...I was telling a friend last night about &quot;our&quot; blogosphere and some of the things that have been blown wide open by it.  Talked about Rathergate, and then at length on the Reuters Fauxtography...and this morning, it was the first item.  HAD to pass the link on to the friend.  I just LOVE this site - and all of you eagle-eyed and diligent watchers of media mischief.

I&#039;m proud to be among you!!
Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is amazing&#8230;I was telling a friend last night about &#8220;our&#8221; blogosphere and some of the things that have been blown wide open by it.  Talked about Rathergate, and then at length on the Reuters Fauxtography&#8230;and this morning, it was the first item.  HAD to pass the link on to the friend.  I just LOVE this site &#8211; and all of you eagle-eyed and diligent watchers of media mischief.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m proud to be among you!!<br />
Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Attila (Pillage Idiot)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Attila (Pillage Idiot)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They just photoshopped that editor out of Reuters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They just photoshopped that editor out of Reuters.</p>
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		<title>By: right2bright</title>
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		<dc:creator>right2bright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Were they hired by the DNC?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Were they hired by the DNC?</p>
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		<title>By: locomotivebreath1901</title>
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		<dc:creator>locomotivebreath1901</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ain&#039;t the blogosphere grand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ain&#8217;t the blogosphere grand?</p>
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		<title>By: Hyunchback</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hyunchback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, was the mystery fired editor named Jamail Hussien?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, was the mystery fired editor named Jamail Hussien?</p>
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		<title>By: bbz123</title>
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		<dc:creator>bbz123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 14:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reuters and AP will never be trusted by right-thinking people again, but they do not seem to care, therefore my conclusion is that we are no longer their target audience. Seems like a case of &quot; where do you infidels get off asking questions of us?&quot; scenario.
I might think otherwise if they actually did something substantial to regain our trust, but that does not seem to be happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reuters and AP will never be trusted by right-thinking people again, but they do not seem to care, therefore my conclusion is that we are no longer their target audience. Seems like a case of &#8221; where do you infidels get off asking questions of us?&#8221; scenario.<br />
I might think otherwise if they actually did something substantial to regain our trust, but that does not seem to be happening.</p>
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