Report: Hillary preparing to play the Muslim card on Obama
posted at 4:56 pm on January 18, 2007 by Allahpundit
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After the beatings Dennis Prager and Virgil Goode took over Keith Ellison, Hillary’s suddenly going to turn around and accuse the golden boy of being a Manchurian candidate? I don’t buy it. It’s too soon, too nasty, and too clumsy, and her people would be keeping this kind of oppo research a much better secret if it were true.
I’m calling bullshinola.
An investigation of Mr. Obama by political opponents within the Democratic Party has discovered that Mr. Obama was raised as a Muslim by his stepfather in Indonesia. Sources close to the background check, which has not yet been released, said Mr. Obama, 45, spent at least four years in a so-called Madrassa, or Muslim seminary, in Indonesia.
“He was a Muslim, but he concealed it,” the source said. “His opponents within the Democrats hope this will become a major issue in the campaign.”…
“The background investigation will provide major ammunition to his opponents,” the source said. “The idea is to show Obama as deceptive.”
No, the idea is to show he’s a Muslim. It’s like when lawyers try to get damning hearsay admitted into evidence. They claim they’re offering the statement as proof of something other than the truth of the matter asserted (e.g., that the witness has made contradictory statements), but they’re really not. They want the jury to hear it and consider it on its own merits.
More:
In Indonesia, the young Obama was enrolled in a Madrassa and was raised and educated as a Muslim. Although Indonesia is regarded as a moderate Muslim state, the U.S. intelligence community has determined that today most of these schools are financed by the Saudi Arabian government and they teach a Wahhabi doctrine that denies the rights of non-Muslims.
Although the background check has not confirmed that the specific Madrassa Mr. Obama attended was espousing Wahhabism, the sources said his Democratic opponents believe this to be the case—and are seeking to prove it. The sources said the opponents are searching for evidence that Mr. Obama is still a Muslim or has ties to Islam.
Which I guess means CNN was right all along, eh? Absurd.
Now, if you want to tell me that this was fed to the media by Hillary’s people, now we’re talking.
Exit question: Assuming it’s not true, what’s the source’s motive here? If it’s someone sympathetic to Obama who’s trying to make Hillary look bad, wouldn’t/couldn’t they have concocted a smear that didn’t involve Obama being linked to Wahhabism?
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So, what kind of popcorn does everyone like - JiffyPop or JollyTime?
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GT on January 18, 2007 at 5:01 PM
The big question is: how will the world’s Muslims react to a man who was once Muslim and then apparently converted to Christianity? One of our new allied governments in the Muslim world, Afghanistan, has not so far been relaxed about that sort of thing. Awkward if our head of state was on their unhappy list.
Alex K on January 18, 2007 at 5:01 PM
The demos, aborting their young. Or is it partial birth abortion?
Either way this is the way they take care of their young.
right2bright on January 18, 2007 at 5:01 PM
Ha, funny considering they want to take off the head of infidels. (no, they use another word for people who convert away)
right2bright on January 18, 2007 at 5:04 PM
So he’s supposed to be socially liberal, have a background with drugs, but this whole time he’s really a secret Muslim?
Yeah, I don’t think Hillary is dumb enough to make that charge.
frankj on January 18, 2007 at 5:08 PM
HELLARY will “kneecap” Obama, when the time is right. Never underestimate the Clinton GOON squad.
mountainmanbob on January 18, 2007 at 5:09 PM
… bingo
An apostate leading the Great Satan? Hillary couldn’t let that happen.
I prefer JiffyPop.
AZ_Redneck on January 18, 2007 at 5:11 PM
If Hillary plays the muslim card, it wont be traced back to her anyway. She’s not that stupid.
R D on January 18, 2007 at 5:15 PM
Maybe its not too early - perception is that the Obama Steamroller is picking up speed to Teflon status (at some point, no matter what anyone else says about him it’ll never stick). Hillary! is vindictive enough to try it. But if she scores a hit with this one, won’t that remove him from VP consideration as well?
Which I guess is why this should be aired as soon as possible, because Obama is stealing (in her mind) her campaign funds.
blogRot on January 18, 2007 at 5:16 PM
Dudes, if I were running against Obama for President, my television ad would be:
-footage of 9/11
-dissolve into picture of Obama
-text fades in over Obama pic: “He’s Muslim.”
Of course, it would also have some really sad/creepy piano music to underscore the gravity of it all.
Sure, that’s not fair, but since when is politics about being fair? I live in Milwaukee, and two years ago one of our mayoral candidates’ campaign slogan was “Marvin Pratt for Mayor: It’s time.” Which was code for, “vote for me because I’m black.”
Pratt lost of course. But I think “he’s Muslim” thing has plenty of traction as far as Obama goes. I think most folks would vote for an atheist before they’d vote for a Muslim for President.
Enrique on January 18, 2007 at 5:17 PM
Obama’s future is a photo-copy of what Meatballs future was in 1979…….fizzle……
Billary doesn’t need to ‘expose’ him…the jackal press is well on its way of doing it for her. He has nothing except name recognition going for him. Like DeLorean he has NO GOODS to deliver to the people. In their first debate Billary will dance on his face.
Limerick on January 18, 2007 at 5:19 PM
Since The Pantsuit is a socialist, will she drop the dime on her fellow traveler?
JammieWearingFool on January 18, 2007 at 5:21 PM
Hillary’s way too politically smart to do something like this.
SisterToldjah on January 18, 2007 at 5:22 PM
I dunno. Her likability factor is a about as low as Bush’s approval ratings. If Hillary overplays it, Obama can easily play the victim card and make Hillary look like the b*tch that she really is.
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GT on January 18, 2007 at 5:24 PM
Consider that if in fact he is an apostate, why has there been no outcry from CAIR or any other Islamonazi group about him? One would pretty much expect a fatwa or two already, makes me wonder.
bbz123 on January 18, 2007 at 5:26 PM
Here’s the first sign of Radar’s foundation leaking.
Is he willing to stick his finger in the dike?
fogw on January 18, 2007 at 5:29 PM
This wouldn’t be a wise strategy for one very big reason. If Hillary or anyone in the party plays this card, the natural response from the other party will be, hey, he’s in your party, so what does that say about you dems? It’s always a dangerous thing to go after someone in that fashion when that someone is in your party. Yeah, you may bring attention to the individual in question, but that light will also shine on everyone connected with his party……so I say go for it Hillary…..
ritethinker on January 18, 2007 at 5:37 PM
Stop giving me reasons to like the guy. If somehow he does get elected, pissing off Muslims would be a good thing!
OMFG. I just figured it out.
Obama/Clinton 2008. Some jihadi who knows Obama is an apostate assassinates him, and we get Hillary as president. If she times it right, he can serve just over two years, screw things up, and she can be the savior who goes on to serve two full terms herself.
I have to go puke now.
The Monster on January 18, 2007 at 5:40 PM
Ehh!
Pretty much the same thing.
Gregor on January 18, 2007 at 5:40 PM
After seeing the poll numbers, I figured the vaunted Clinton Attack Machine would kick it up a few notches.
JammieWearingFool on January 18, 2007 at 5:40 PM
One other thing - all he’s done is announce that Exploratory Committee thing, and will make his decision in two weeks (?) whether to run for Pres or not. Seems like a good time to torpedo. A Muslim presidential contender (however tenuous his links might be) would probably push the fence sitters to the Republicans; better to pop the zit now than in the fall of ‘08.
blogRot on January 18, 2007 at 5:41 PM
Wait, Indonesia is a moderate Muslim state?
I think Obama has enough shortcomings to exploit without going this route. Personally I don’t think he’s anywhere near a “Macnhurian Candidate”, either.
If Clinton gets behind and desperate at some point it will happen.
But, really, Indonesia is a moderate Muslim state?
reaganaut on January 18, 2007 at 5:42 PM
No, the idea is to show he’s a Muslim
That’s fine too. Because that’s even a better reason not to allow him the opportunity to run for the office. So if this were to turn out to be true, I as an American citizen, wouldn’t care about the reasons it’s been brought to my attention, just knowing he is or was raised as a Muslim is enough to keep any sane minded person for voting for him. Of course, now we’ll have to see if it’s true or not. I’m not a black helicopter conspiracy kind of guy, but wouldn’t it be something if he was the sheep in wool clothing and really was a practicing Muslim in secret. Just food for thought.
rayvet on January 18, 2007 at 5:43 PM
That’s exactly why the majority of Democrats will vote for him.
As for the far left … they’ll see this as an opportunity to make up for all the horrible deeds our country has done to those poor innocent Muslims. The entire religion is deserving of restitution and nothing will remove their overwhelming feelings of guilt than to elect a Muslim President.
One giant symbolic gesture to show the world how compassionate liberals really are.
Gregor on January 18, 2007 at 5:49 PM
Taqquiya, bitches! It didn’t take long for the Clinton wehrmacht to whip that one out, did it?
Kid from Brooklyn on January 18, 2007 at 5:52 PM
Orville Reddenbacher.
steveegg on January 18, 2007 at 5:52 PM
This should be interesting to watch.
vcferlita on January 18, 2007 at 5:54 PM
That is what I was alluding to rayvet, it may be assumed by much of the world’s Muslims that he is just practicing the big taqiya.
bbz123 on January 18, 2007 at 5:55 PM
Exactly.
It will be put out there as a whispering campaign, with several layers of buffering so that she can maintain plausible deniability.
thirteen28 on January 18, 2007 at 5:57 PM
I’m not one who thinks he’s some sort of crypto-Muslim, but I do think it’s fair to say that Obama’s particular brand of Christianity seems to be a little bit peculiar.
Watcher on January 18, 2007 at 6:00 PM
Unless they feel that Obama revelations of this sort would be so damaging that it would hurt all the Democrat candidates and the party in general in which case they would want to nip it in the bud as soon as possible rather than having it appear that the were covering up for and even promoting some kind of al qaeda sleeper type.
Perchant on January 18, 2007 at 6:10 PM
Which part of this did you want us to assume was not true? The currently-a-closet-Muslim part or the was-once-a-Muslim one?
No matter; the motive of the source (assuming it wasn’t Obama’s camp practicing the Clintonian Method of spin control) is to torpedo Obama’s chances among both the middle and those few on the hard left that have had a moment of clarity on Islam’s goals. If it were Obama’s camp, the next things you’ll see are highly-public visits to his church followed by statements that even Islamists can change peacefully.
steveegg on January 18, 2007 at 6:12 PM
It could be someone that’s on Obama’s side. Break this early, make Hilary look bad, and, at the same time, get the ACLU ultra-liberals to stand up and defend you against the ‘religious discrimination’.
It also has the added effect of getting the issue out in the open when only liberals (and people who follow politics) care about the Democratic candidates going into the primaries. So, the issue gets played out when no one is watching anyway. Then, if anyone tries to make an issue of it later, he can wave it away and say, “We covered that a year ago. Let’s move on.”
What I don’t understand is why this is an issue at all (unless someone finds REAL evidence of him being a crazy muslim sleeper agent)…Wait, I rememeber, his middle name is Hussein (or something like that)…
JadeNYU on January 18, 2007 at 6:18 PM
Gregor, do you mean there’s actually people living and breathing on this planet that feel guilty towards the poor followers of the Muslim cult? And in that guilt, they will allow one to possibly become the most powerful man in the world? I never…….. :)
rayvet on January 18, 2007 at 6:20 PM
So we’re finally getting to the man’s actual record?
It’s nice to see that politics can be more than just a review of someone’s autobiography.
Esthier on January 18, 2007 at 6:28 PM
JadeNYU, do you really not understand why this is an issue? Even if he’s not a crazy Muslim sleeper agent. Maybe its an issue because Muslim beliefs are not compatible with the American way of life. Maybe it’s because the followers of this cult are followers and not leaders and therefore, too weak willed and/or blinded by their beliefs to assume the role of the most powerful person on the planet. Even if someone is not “still” a practicing Muslim, if they once were, I’m afraid some of the brainwashing is still part of their psyche and no way should they be allowed to hold the office of the president. Come to think of it, I’ve heard of a certain government official that recently got sworn in over a Koran didn’t I? This should never have been allowed to happen. Not only his using that book to be sworn in on, but someone of his religious persuasion being allowed to hold such an office. When are the American citizens going to wake up and realize that Muslim beliefs (be it radical or moderate {is there really such a creature?})are not compatible with Democracy and American values?
rayvet on January 18, 2007 at 6:34 PM
Remember it is not only accepted but encouraged that the Muslim use deceit and deception when dealing with the “infidel”. I fully expect that Obama is a Muslim pretending to be something else to gain advantage.
My question is who is promoting him for such high office? The Left really does seem to care more for their own political agenda and ideology, a black president, than is what is good for the country.
omegaram on January 18, 2007 at 6:37 PM
This is better than him “committing suicide”.
SouthernGent on January 18, 2007 at 6:53 PM
4 years in a Madrassa when he was 6 years old isn’t going to get traction.
Hillary’s goons put this out there to show the social conservatives that they can work with her. Now Obama’s a Christmas and Easter Christian who voted against life support for fetuses that survive abortion.
pedestrian on January 18, 2007 at 7:04 PM
Bbz123 makes a good point. If a public figure like Barak Obama converted to Christianity after accepting Islam, it would seem that the Jihadist Salafis and Wahabis worldwide would go into a frenzied state at the news.
It wouldn’t matter if the conversion occurred yesterday or twenty years ago, Obama would still be an apostate against the faith running for the Presidency of the United States of America—a most unforgivable offense to Islam.
Why hasn’t a fatwa been issued against him? Is it because his conversion is not widely known outside the United States? Or is it because he never converted to Christianity in the first place? Until this thread, I’d never given his religion much thought—to be honest; I’ve never given Obama much thought. But I think the religious issue brings up some serious dilemmas for his candidacy. Apostasy is not taken lightly in the Islamic World.
zoyclem on January 18, 2007 at 7:19 PM
So some 527 org - lets call them the “Swift Camels” - releases the dirt on
OsamaObama. He gets trashed by the media and the centrist Democrats. His career is apparently finished. Hillary hops on her white horse and comes to his rescue. She wins the hearts of the moonbats and takes her stray under her wing… all the way to the White House.RedWinged Blackbird on January 18, 2007 at 7:33 PM
You don’t buy it. Hillary would never do this, you say.
And yet, we’re reading about it for some reason. The article didn’t just write itself, did it?
DaveS on January 18, 2007 at 7:52 PM
Rayvet - I would be much more comfortable with proving the individual issues than with applying a religious test for office. Especially when the test is being applied against someone based on the religion they were born (and, for a time, though I don’t know how long) raised as.
The main claims to be a Christian and, until I have evidence otherwise, I will take him at his word. That he was born Muslim does not concern me any more than it concerns me that George W. Bush was born Christian - it is what people do when they are on their own that matters.
Also, I would not have a problem (although I admit that personal prejudices would force me to vet them more thoroughly) with a muslim president. While I do agree that the more ‘fundamental’ followers of Islam do not practice a faith that seems compatible with American life, I’ve also met many devout Muslims that have not been radicalized. In fact, one of my roommates in college was a Pakistani male (I’m a girl) and his father was aware that he was living in a mixed gendered situation and was fine with it. Certainly some Muslim’s (even radical ones) have to be leaders. Somebody has to give the orders to kill. /sarcasm So, I don’t think being Muslim proves they cannot be leaders.
Again, I would have to see evidence that a candidate was lying or weak-willed or brainwashed before I would discount voting for them (if I otherwise liked them). However, at that point, I would be withholding my vote based on their lack of leadership qualities and not because they were Muslim.
JadeNYU on January 18, 2007 at 8:09 PM
That should say
“The man claims to be a Christian….”
not “The main claims…”
JadeNYU on January 18, 2007 at 8:12 PM
By Jove, Holmes, I think you’ve got it!
Hillary is NOT the smartest woman in the world, but her flunkies have accumulated a lot of info, and spend A LOT of cash to buy a lot of insight into American politics
Janos Hunyadi on January 18, 2007 at 8:15 PM
Where the hell in the Constitution does it say a woman has the right to abortion?
Guardian on January 18, 2007 at 8:22 PM
Try this one on for size:
Hillary’s camp has some sock puppets quietly plant the story with the media. Then they sit back and wait for right-wing talk radio to grab the ball and run with it. If they go after Obama the way that Dennis Prager went after the Keith Ellison-Koran story, Hillary achieves the desired result without getting her hands (or her pantsuit) dirty.
NE on January 18, 2007 at 8:34 PM
For those that want to administer a religious test, I humbly submit the last clause of Article VI of the US Constitution:
That having been said, I have serious doubts about whether any practicing Muslim can honestly defend the US Constitution.
steveegg on January 18, 2007 at 9:14 PM
One thing AllahPundit still doesn’t seem to get: Maybe people are sincerely worried that a presidential candidate who has had four years in a madrasa is actually a threat to our country.
Everything points to the guy being a closet Muslim, including his rooming with an illegal Pakistani in New York.
Question: Barack Hussein Obama also is a chain smoker of cigarettes. When will the MSM decide to point this out to the public? It will be interesting watching Hillary crush him!
januarius on January 18, 2007 at 9:24 PM
One more thing: Find Obama’s quotes about his “Christian” faith and analyze them. He comes across as a “Christian” just as someone like Hugo Chavez is a “Christian”: a belief that Christ was a type of Che Guevara, someone not divine but instead an enlightened and very human socialist that came to bring social justice to the world.
Obama’s view of Christ is almost the exact same you would expect a Muslim to have. Couple that with his deceptions about his background, parents, schooling, and faith, and it is very plausible that Obama actually is a Muslim.
januarius on January 18, 2007 at 9:48 PM
Am I the only one missing the point (or gettng it?)
Yeah, way too early to start dishing this out, but the Clinton war room never closes.
It’s out there now(Barack Hussein Obama “once” {you can never leave} being a Muslim), giving him time to defend, explain away any fear, nuance, and the American sheeple to accept it.
I think that her next step left up to her minions, will be the chain smoking thing…….
Then a homosexual affair in college……
Then a heterosexual affair with a minor…….
Then finally, he is actually President Bush!
Victory in ‘08!
PinkyBigglesworth on January 18, 2007 at 10:44 PM
I believe it.
Leiren on January 18, 2007 at 10:44 PM
I would like extra butter on my popcorn, please, some Raisinettes and a box of Jordan Almonds. I’m thinking this will be more of a mini-series, if not an entire 13 episode season.
Lily on January 18, 2007 at 11:40 PM
Makes me proud to be a conservative. Great blog you got here AP, Michelle, Bryan, Ian.
billy on January 18, 2007 at 11:54 PM
Islam - Wahhabism - Obama - Osama - and the same thread links them.
However, the above analogy (billy on January 18, 2007 at 11:54 PM) is very tempting, except to postulate that Hillary will go behind the scenes and have a chat with Obama in private, then let Obama have his run during the primary, after which he will join her as her VP candidate in the run to the White House which, barring any really major screw-ups or lack of good candidates, will be successful.
Emmett J. on January 19, 2007 at 12:16 AM
Islam - Wahhabism - Obama - Osama - and the same thread links them.
However, the above analogy (billy on January 18, 2007 at 11:54 PM) is very tempting
Emmett J. on January 19, 2007 at 12:16 AM
Ummm… once again, great site! Conservatives should hold their heads high.
billy on January 19, 2007 at 12:25 AM
Ooooh, good point.
billy on January 19, 2007 at 12:31 AM
Not only in her mind, in reality, in Hollywood and in New York, and a reminder from the biggest B. Clinton ’supporter’…
Entelechy on January 19, 2007 at 12:37 AM
Why don’t you pass the time with a game of solitaire?
Mibrilane on January 19, 2007 at 1:03 AM
To answer the exit question, the reason for this is to put your opposition on record so you can bash them with it next year when these races start heating up.
I think it is more likely that the conservatives started this because neither Hillary nor Obama, regardless of their stance, can come out of it without a serious black eye. If this is true, then the dem candidates will spin it in a way that gives them the best chance at winning the nomination, and they will deal with the main stream americans reaction to it later.
csdeven on January 19, 2007 at 1:16 AM
Try removing your own head from your nether regions.
Once you’ve managed to do that, then try following the link I provided and reading what I actually had to say before lumping my comment in with all the others that have you in such a tizzy.
Watcher on January 19, 2007 at 1:28 AM
All I said was: I’m proud to be a conservative. and. Great site!
You gotta problem with that?
billy on January 19, 2007 at 1:40 AM
[Scrit, scrit, scrit]
That’s the sound of Hillary’s cadre sharpening the long knives.
First Hillary is going to make a few small incisions, maybe in the deltoids, to weaken his arms and cause some blood loss.
Then she’s gonna maybe put a few cuts on the forehead, over the eyes to blind him.
But, in the end, she’s gonna eviscerate him, and watch as he trips over his intestines that wrap around his feet.
Oh, yeah! He’s a gonner already and it hasn’t even really started, yet.
Remember what I said about “opposition research?” The Clinton War Room is an EXPERT on it. In fact, they wrote the textbook. And don’t forget that Rahm Emmanuel was the Clinton’s “hit man” when he worked in the White House. He is still Clinton’s man. And Clinton is still the Capo di tutti i capi.
They (Emmanuel especially) know were ALL the bodies are buried, and they’ll dig them up when the time is right.
They’ll go after any major Democrat that “endorses” Obama, too. Not openly and frankly, but indirectly. Through cutouts. Unattributable leaks (from “reliable sources”) will detail all the backroom deals, all the favors, all “investments” that enriched the (to the Clintons) “defectors.” Remember they still have the FBI files, and they weren’t only just about Republicans.
That will be the naked threat that these major Democrats will face if they even hint of openly supporting Obama.
What they’ll do to Obama will be even worse. Obama *IS* dirty. There’s that sleezy land deal he made with that indicted “pay for play” pal of the current Illinois governor. There are, no doubt, OTHER slick deals Obama has made since he went to Springfield as an Illinois legislator (remember, Illinois is *FAMOUS* for corrupt politicians and has been for over a hundred years). After, everybody does it! What ever dirty deal he has done will come out between now and Nov 2008.
Then there are the “personal” items.
His childhood as a Muslim WILL be exploited. Yes, there can be “no religious test,” but there is one exception. The voters can vote for or against anyone for any reason, INCLUDING religion. He will be attacked as a “closet Al Qaeda” radical, irrespective of the truth of it.
He will be pinned about which religion he practices now, and how devout he really is. One, just one, toehold in his religious persona, and the War Room will utilize it to the max.
God help him if he at any time, ever, had an affair while married.
God help his family, too. They are going to be targets as well. You think what the Democrats did to Bush’s kids, Barb and Jenna, was brutal? The attacks against Obama’s family will eclipse it.
Whatever there is to find, you can bet that the War Room already has it, and will release it if and when necessary. And it will be so slick, that Obama won’t realize he’s tripped on his intestines until his face hits the ground.
I predict that when this is over, Obama will envy Vince Foster.
BTW, I like Orville’s too. With lots of butter.
georgej on January 19, 2007 at 1:43 AM
I have a problem with your misplaced sarcasm. Maybe you should take your own advice from another thread and get off the internets… go read a book or something.
Watcher on January 19, 2007 at 1:53 AM
Watcher:
I like your site. It is worth a look.
That said:
The illustrious commenters on this site have taken a ” kill them all: let G-d choose his own, HE”LL recognize His own” point of view.
I like Muslims.
Muslims are my brothers.
That sentence alienates me from both the left and the right sides of American politics.
Radical Islamists are the, THE major threat to the Western way of life.
Those Christian empathizers who may see a common bond?
We are left in the dust.
billy on January 19, 2007 at 2:16 AM
HMMM, Billy, very interesting little statement there. Let me tell you my thoughts. Not as a conservative, not as a republican, and certainly not as a member of any particular religious persuasion (because I’m not). I don’t like you. You like Muslims. They are your brothers. Well aint that special, and ain’t that the PC thing to say/type/feel. Well I don’t have the atitude of kill them all and let God sort them out. BTW, why didn’t you type the word God out? Anyway, I have the philosophy/advice that since radical Muslims are out to destroy my way of life, and moderate Muslims (again, is there such a thing?) are pretty much useless in persuading them otherwise, then please, let them all go back to the middle east to continue their lives killing each other and living in their backward ass societies. So now that you’ve exposed your “loyalties” to the cult of the Islamic faith, anything you post here in the future, will in my eyes, be of no importance or relevance.
rayvet on January 19, 2007 at 6:26 AM
No, it’s Hillary. She’s going to float the story and express shock that someone would try to a)embarrass Obama, and b)make it look like she did it. She’ll blame it on whoever is closest to her in the polls.
Hill=Rove /
BacaDog on January 19, 2007 at 7:48 AM
No need to even bother with the mud slinging, take a look at his wife. If I were running a campaign against him, I’d have her in every shot possible. She looks like the Whitney Houston drug rehab photo.
Obama may cross cultural lines and pull votes, but seeing her will kill that potential. She looks like the tricks that hang out by the DC Greyhound terminal. He’s Will Smith black, she’s Scary Spice black.
Alden Pyle on January 19, 2007 at 9:29 AM
Well, he got Jesse.
http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/politicalticker/2007/01/jesse-jackson-all-of-my-heart-leans.html
bbz123 on January 19, 2007 at 9:41 AM
Why is it so hard for everyone to understand that Obama is not a Muslim? His father was Muslim, he was sent to a Muslim school when he was 6 years old. He absolutely no control over who his father was or where he went to school. To hold these things over is head and to assume they mean he is some sort of al-Queda sleeper agent is completely ridiculous and unfair.
Obama professes to be a Christian and I see no reason why any one should not take him at his word. You may disagree with his beliefs or his particular brand of Christianity and these are both fair criticisms; the religion of his father is not.
In fact, common sense would tell me Christians would celebrate a man who was raised Muslim, rejected the faith, saw the light,and then embraced Christianity. Of course you don’t seem interested in common sense, just fearmongering and off-base, bigoted attacks.
JaHerer22 on January 19, 2007 at 9:59 AM
JaHerer22, you may be right, but as I said above, that fact would make him even more of a target to the fundamentalists, however they are strangely silent on that. Sometimes it is what “not” is happening that is the tell.
bbz123 on January 19, 2007 at 10:07 AM
He has premature media adoration.
Peaking waaaaay too soon is never a good characteristic for a candidate, this is a marathon and he’s sprinting.
munch, munch, munch…could you pass me a soda please.
Alden Pyle on January 19, 2007 at 10:12 AM
Michelle, about fidelity in their marriage: “I never worry about things I can’t affect, and with fidelity … that is between Barack and me, and if somebody can come between us, we didn’t have much to begin with.”
Source: Ebony, March 2006 v61 i5 p58(4)
hmmmm didn’t sound like a strong endorsement to me. A simple
would have been a less nuanced way to put this question aside. I wonder if there is a skeleton rattling around in someone’s bedroom closet?
heh heh
Alden Pyle on January 19, 2007 at 10:22 AM
How do you spell “ultimate sleeper cell”? I guess this is one way to get a suicide bomber into the White House…
RalphyBoy on January 19, 2007 at 10:25 AM
I’ve seen this argument before, and honestly I have no idea how radical Muslims would react to Obama in the White House. But the day we allow radical jihadists to decide who the President of the United States is; the day we base our vote on how it will make the Islamists feel, is the day we lose the GWOT.
JaHerer22 on January 19, 2007 at 10:27 AM
It’s like when lawyers try to get damning hearsay admitted into evidence. They claim they’re offering the statement as proof of something other than the truth of the matter asserted (e.g., that the witness has made contradictory statements), but they’re really not. They want the jury to hear it and consider it on its own merits.
Hey, now, let’s not come down too hard on the lawyers. *nervous look* It’s not like we’re Muslim or anything.
Blacksheep on January 19, 2007 at 10:30 AM
Dr. Hillary will perform a partial birth abortion on Sen. Osama’s presidential campaign . . . at the appropriate time.
Labamigo on January 19, 2007 at 10:41 AM
Because he covered it up. Just like a couple of Border Patrol agents we have discussed in a different topic today.
csdeven on January 19, 2007 at 10:55 AM
1. Don’t fall for Hillary’s Trap
Hillary is releasing this dirt on Obama so we conservatives will be the messenger and tell the masses. She will say we are the right-wing conspiracy and will back up Obama. But the dirty deed will be done and she will be clean.
2. Obama is hosed as a Muslim/Former Muslim
If Hussein Obama admits he’s a Muslim, he’s hosed. If he admits he has converted away from Islam and to Christianity, we will be hunted down like a dog.
3. MSM soon to be schizo
In the next weeks, the MSM will have to choose between Obama/Osama and Hillary. Hillary has the female vote (50%) and Obama has the black vote (10%). Easy choice for the MSM.
faraway on January 19, 2007 at 11:10 AM
On January 4, 2005, did Obama place his hand on the Bible to take the oath during the swearing in?
Kokonut on January 19, 2007 at 11:13 AM
JadeNYU, as usual you are the voice of reason. All of the rest of you who are in a snit over Barack Obama’s “muslim roots” are making this blog (and conservatives in general) look foolish.
Take a look at the man’s history. His dad sent him to the Muslim version of parochial school when he was six. Then he came back to America, went to school, and eventually graduated from noted Wahabbi madrassas Columbia University and Harvard Law School. His fellow Harvard Law jihadis even gave him the highly prestigious editorship of the Law Review, which as we all know is a prime source of fatwas against the infidel.
Y’all took the troll bait someone left out for Obama.
The problem with Barack Obama is that he speaks, writes, and votes like a thoroughly secular socialist liberal. I don’t care where his daddy sent him to preschool, even if that preschool taught a hateful ideology. He obviously got over it.
Anton on January 19, 2007 at 11:25 AM
He used his ‘personal Bible’. See
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faraway on January 19, 2007 at 11:26 AM
Obama sees 2 moves ahead and sees his checkmate.
Well, have someone directly ask Hussein Obama if this is the case. When we get a straight answer to these questions to these, it will be checkmate for him, either way.
Have him answer these questions:
1. Did you attend a madrassa for 2-4 years? (have a video clip playing in the background of kids mindlessly rocking back and forth reciting the Koran)
2. Did you memorize the Koran?
3. Have you rejected Islam?
4. Do you believe that Jesus died for us in order for us to get to heaven?
faraway on January 19, 2007 at 11:41 AM
I don’t really doubt that Hillary’s behind this. I’m sure this little tidbit was being saved for later, but the facts about Obama’s Muslim heritage and madrassa education have been on the internet for a while now. I saw it myself when I was wondering about Obama’s religious affiliation back when the liberals were raising a stink about Romney being a Mormon. However, the recent news has suggested that Obama was making inroads into Hillary’s fundraising territory and I suspect Hillary needed to make Obama radioactive before he got his hands too deep into her donors’ pockets.
secarr on January 19, 2007 at 11:43 AM
We need jack bauer to find out the truth and we’re running out of time
Apparently some of this info is in some mass emailings.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp
Kai on January 19, 2007 at 11:58 AM
Barack Obama: values and principles.
Egfrow on January 19, 2007 at 12:26 PM
Someone may have already asked the obvious, so excuse me if this is redundant. Where was Hillary and the rest of the dems in 2004 when Obama was running for the senate? If his muslim background is a problem now, it was no more less so in 2004 when he ran for the senate.
ritethinker on January 19, 2007 at 12:42 PM
He wasn’t taking money away from Hillary in 2004.
secarr on January 19, 2007 at 12:53 PM
It’s one thing to have daddy enroll you in some crap school cause he liked the cheap tuition and that the classes seemed disciplined, and another to enroll yourself. Madrasses do not do any credible job of teaching any subject apart from rote memorization of the Koran, so little Obama would have paid for it later on in catch up when transferring into another, real school.
What could be going on here is an innoculation - getting people to accept it was no big deal (and to be fair, with this little info, it may well have not been any big deal - indeed, he may have hated it). Later, it’ll be easier to deflect any other criticisms if new, more compelling evidence appears.
What we want to know, and what the MSM refuses to inform us about - is what are his politics - he’s pretty Left/socialists which means he has no faith in the free market engine of growth that makes this country roar and rumble. The other part is critical - can he be a credible executive - and he’s had zero executive experience so far. You don’t learn how to manage huge bureaucracies as a Senator and he has no managerial experience from anywhere else.
naliaka on January 19, 2007 at 1:11 PM
I call bullshinola 2. God, people are gullible.
honora on January 19, 2007 at 1:34 PM
Even if it is bullshinola (as I believe it to be), it did bring up some good questions such as “Should Muslims/Islamists be allowed to hold public office?”. I answer in a resounding HELL NO!
rayvet on January 19, 2007 at 2:21 PM
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/19/fox-obama-madrassa/
OIC
Kai on January 19, 2007 at 2:33 PM
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