Comments on: NYT editors excise Bush death wish from op-ed

By: shackler

shackler — Wed, 17 Jan 2007 22:38:11 +0000

right2bright, I wasn’t going to get into pollution. I am glad you admitted to your desire to let our children live in polluted squallor. At least the conservatives are no longer in power. Maybe there is hope in saving the country now.

By: right2bright

right2bright — Wed, 17 Jan 2007 21:01:06 +0000

shackler on January 17, 2007 at 2:52 PM

We are all “war monger neo-cons” nice choice of words, did you make those up…just kidding you took them off of a website, I have seen these for about six months.

The cold war was won because of first our build up of arms, remember Reagan and his military budget all of the liberals hated? It won the cold war without a shot, but it did not take out the “bad boys”. Now shackler, here come a quiz…what evil dictator or communist/marxist was removed without firing a shot?

And thanks for letting us know we all hate America, we all want America to burn, so our kids can live in misery, we all want to pollute America because we want our kids to die, we all fight wars to let our children live in communistic misery. The problem is, that statement is your most intelligent comment.

By: Rick

Rick — Wed, 17 Jan 2007 20:48:19 +0000

Oh yeah, I almost forgot “conservatives hate America”.

By: Rick

Rick — Wed, 17 Jan 2007 20:46:35 +0000

I think I’ve got it now, shackler is trying to switch the arguments on us (conservatives are: threat to national security, hate the rule of law, ignore the facts, etc.) – so, that makes us the “liberals” in shackler’s world.

By: shackler

shackler — Wed, 17 Jan 2007 19:52:31 +0000

Ritethinker, you have good points. I don’t dispute the value of war. If you had read my whole posting (which conservatives rarely like to do) you could understand that. Most of your examples were accurate. I do love, however, how war monger neo-cons love throwing around the cold-war. They cite an arms race as proof that war solves problems. THE COLD-WAR ENDED BECAUSE OF DIPLOMACY. Remember all the sit downs between our guy and their guy? Not a shot fired. Talking saved the day. But, you could never concede that one of your conservative heroes believed in diplomacy. I think the whole right-wing would melt away if they did that. Gotta save face. Anyways, the Iraq war was a disaster. He was of no threat to us. Conservatives are more of a threat to national security than Iraq was. But, keep on believing guys. Facts mean little to the right. Why should they? When you hate America as much as you do, why would you let facts get in the way of destroying her?

By: Rick

Rick — Wed, 17 Jan 2007 05:25:09 +0000

Oh, and by the way, shackler, I’m still waiting for your response to my question over at the millenium bomber thread. Whenever you’re ready, feel free.

By: Rick

Rick — Wed, 17 Jan 2007 05:00:15 +0000

I guess I should probably stop driving my tank to the office downtown – would hate for people to think I’m a warmonger.

By: Limerick

Limerick — Wed, 17 Jan 2007 01:40:31 +0000

Proud family of war-mongers request special consideration in applying for the Shackler GoooooooLag. Family guilty of the following offenses; Belleu Wood, Makin Atoll, Guadalcanal, Bouganville, Saipan, 38th Parallel, Tet, Fall of Saigon, Panama, Baghdad, Tal Afar. Sorry we set out the First Gulf War, but maybe that will mean a little clemency huh? Currently have war-monger driving a M1A2 Abrams around squishing babies. Please help.

By: Limerick

Limerick — Wed, 17 Jan 2007 01:27:57 +0000

SHACKLER….

As a certified war-monger could you please forward a first class ticket to me. Thank you.

By: Ringmaster

Ringmaster — Wed, 17 Jan 2007 01:13:22 +0000

Bush Lies. I eats pies.

I didn’t know he was a criminal. I would ask why they don’t just arrest him, but then I think of Jefferson from New Orleans, and I really can’t argue.

By: ritethinker

ritethinker — Wed, 17 Jan 2007 00:48:12 +0000

Thanks Entelechy, appreciate the compliment. Just hoping our buddy Shackler sticks around….he could use a little conservative thought right now….

By: Entelechy

Entelechy — Wed, 17 Jan 2007 00:43:04 +0000

As Spurius Ligustinus quoted so aptly on the Messiah thread:

“I went to bed that night and slept the sleep of the saved and the thankful.”
- Winston Churchill, upon learning of America’s entry into WWII…

Spurius Ligustinus on January 16, 2007 at 6:41 PM

By: JackM

JackM — Wed, 17 Jan 2007 00:23:04 +0000

Is Shackler against global warming? Someone ask him about global warming.

By: JackM

JackM — Wed, 17 Jan 2007 00:17:58 +0000

Shackler did not mention Haliburton. Just what kind of dumbo libbie bibbie bastard is he anyway?

By: Entelechy

Entelechy — Wed, 17 Jan 2007 00:00:48 +0000

ritethinker, what a beautiful effort, in style, and with excellent and undeniable examples of history and human nature.

The ~~paper~~ screen you wrote it on is patiently and enduringly reflecting upon your effort, and thanks you.

By: Zorro

Zorro — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 23:26:42 +0000

shackler on January 16, 2007 at 5:13 PM

I’m with Catie on this, pity the poor soul.

By: ritethinker

ritethinker — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 23:19:52 +0000

Shackler has a point guys, what war has solved political problems. Just take the Israeli/Palestinian problem for instance. It’s easy to see peace-talks have worked wonders in this part of the world. Slavery, there is another problem that was solved by peace-talks. If the North hadn’t sat down with the South and convinced them that slavery was wrong we could have had a bloody Civil War. Just think, if Chamberlain hadn’t been able to talk Hitler down, well, you can just imagine the mess the entire world would have been in. Italy, same thing. Benito would have sided up to Adolph and run roughshod over Europe. Imperialism? Thank God we negotiated with Japan before they could launch an attack or join with Germany and Italy to form the Axis. The Soviets. Thank God Ronald Reagan tore down our military and de-escalated the arms-race or the entire world would have been destroyed with a nuclear holocaust. Thank God Reagan didn’t do something silly like call the USSR the Evil Empire. Can you imagine if Reagan had put Pershing missiles in the European theatre what massive atrocities would have occured? The Taliban? Thank God Jimmy Carter was around to negotiate a treaty with these guys. He was able to get us the same deal he got us with N. Korea……

Shackler, my friend, war-monger is such a cliche, a left-over from the 60′s. No one on this list, nor in this administration is a war-monger. No one wants war. But you know the sad reality is that this world is inhabited with human-kind. This being the case, wars are unfortunately going to be one of the side-effects of human behavior. You do not want to be on the side that refuses to acknowledge this reality. For if you remian naive and continue to seek peaceful solutions to problems that are caused by those with evil intent, then your reality will be a tragically short-lived one. As the great Ronaldus Magnus stated, it is peace through strength. Just think about buddy……

By: Capitalist Infidel

Capitalist Infidel — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:48:33 +0000

Wouldn’t it be great if far left wing kooks like shackler hated terrorists half as much as they hate Republicans?

By: Catie96706

Catie96706 — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:48:11 +0000

I beg to differ, Shackler. I doubt your father is a conservative and if he is you probably despise him. That being said, Mazztek is absolutely right. You hate it so much, go to Iran. Try speaking out there and well you won’t be heard from again. It’s your choice, be thankful for freedom of speech and remember it goes both ways. We have to put up with your crap nonstop, all the time from people like you who have no answers just “I hate Bush, I hate war” ad nauseum. Glad you weren’t around during WW 2 or we’d be typing this in German or where I live in Japanese.

By: Mazztek

Mazztek — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:41:00 +0000

Msg to shackler.
Go to hell, moron.
georgej on January 16, 2007 at 4:28 PM

Seconded. You whining little carnival freak child.

Sedition: an illegal action inciting resistance to lawful authority and tending to cause the disruption or overthrow of the government

Who will hang George W. Bush?

So, they take it out of the American editions, but leave it in the foreign editions.

In 2000 and 2004, you could not win atthe polls, so instead of actually offering alternatives, you resort to: “I wish he was dead!”

Why is it that the leftards who march and chant for “constitutional rights” all have these fascist “imprison all my political opponents” masturbation fantasies? Could they be… hypocrites???

Of course. So far, no one has been arrested for seditious acs against the government. They HIDE behind “freedom of speech.” Pull that CRAP anywhere else but America, they’d be DEAD.

By: The Monster

The Monster — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:35:52 +0000

“¿Quién medicá a shackler?”

By: right2bright

right2bright — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:22:30 +0000

Well, looks like shackler forgot to take his medicine today.

By: shackler

shackler — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:13:59 +0000

I don’t dislike those I disagree with. My dad is a conservative. Don’t hate him. Don’t hate you guys, though you come up with some interesting names for liberals like myself. Don’t hate O’Reilly or Hannity. What do I hate? Oh yeah, WAR MONGERS. I hate those who propagate war as a political end. I hate those that support war mongers. I hate people who believe that war solves the world’s problem. I hate those who propagate war on behalf of the American people. I hate people who destroy our international cridibility by advancing war. I could support the Afghan conflict. I was in New York on 9/11 and watched the terrible destruction from my living room. I believed, as I still do, that Afghanistan should have been turned into a glowing glass parking lot. Good riddance. But then came Iraq, and all the war monger neo-conservative christian fundamentalists decided that a war with Iraq would fulfill biblical prophecy . And they pushed in on the world. And now our diplomatic efforts are in shambles, the world hates us, and the cost in American and Iraqi lives is incalculable. I don’t want goulags for conservatives. I want them for war mongers. Lock them up and never let them see the light of day again. Just desserts.

By: mojo

mojo — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 21:54:04 +0000

“Who will hang George Bush?”

Well, gee, is this a trick question, Mr. Lenin?

Ok, well then, “whomever shall manage to get him indicted on, and a jury to find him guilty of, a capital crime.”

See? Not so hard, was it?

By: Catie96706

Catie96706 — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 21:49:03 +0000

Well Schackler, what is there to say? What would you have done differently or better yet your boy Al Gore or John Fing Kerry? I am glad that you think you’re so high and mighty. In reality, you’re just a sad individual who because you find people who you disagree with you want them in jail. In reality it’s the reverse of what Mazztek said but you believe you’re oh so eloquent. Don’t know why you hate those with whom you disagree with, maybe you had an unappy childhood or maybe you’re not fulfilled in your life today since you harbor such hatred towards those with whom you disagree. Either way, you’re a pathetic individual who should be pitied. Yes, pitied for the hateful person you are. I don’t know why the libs cannot have a reasonable conversation with people without resorting to name calling and ready with warrants for arrest.