Video: Duke suspects’ parents go nuclear on Nifong

posted at 9:10 am on January 15, 2007 by Allahpundit

From last night’s “60 Minutes.” The women on the couch are Reade Seligmann’s mother and, to her right, Colin Finnerty’s. Standing in the back and providing most of the ordnance is the mother of David Evans. The rest is self-explanatory, although the detail about the accuser having used anti-psychotic medication in the past was news to me, at least.

Can it get worse? Friends, it can:

In the first weeks of the Duke lacrosse case, Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong continued to disparage lacrosse players in public after a defense attorney had put him on notice that he was violating ethical rules governing the conduct of lawyers…

“I do not understand why you will reportedly speak to the media in such certain, condemning terms before all the evidence is in, but you will not have the courtesy to meet or even speak with a representative of someone you have publicly condemned, despite your knowledge of the presumption of innocence and your position as an officer of the court bound by the Rules of Professional Conduct related to pre-trial publicity[," wrote defense attorney Joseph B. Cheshire on March 30.]

The letter makes it more difficult for Nifong to argue that his remarks were off-the-cuff, said Thomas Metzloff, who teaches legal ethics at Duke Law School…

“The reason that I took this case is because this case says something about Durham that I’m not going to let be said,” Nifong said at an election forum on April 12. “I’m not going to allow Durham’s view in the minds of the world to be a bunch of lacrosse players at Duke raping a black girl from Durham.”

It was, you see, a teachable moment. Much like, say, a civil suit or disbarment proceedings might be.

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Aside from feeling sorry for these kids, is there some kind of rule that the fathers can’t talk?

Is it maybe because the interviewer is a female?

There may be a double lawsuit here.

iNeXuS on January 15, 2007 at 9:27 AM

….no fury like the wrath of a woman!

iam7545 on January 15, 2007 at 9:39 AM

The bad guys on 24 are more sympathetic charcacters than Nifong.

JammieWearingFool on January 15, 2007 at 9:41 AM

Even Jessie and Al gave this one a wide berth. That alone should have tipped off Nifong to stay away. Too bad he can’t be prosecuted for obstruction of justice, but hey, he won re-election. Thank you Durham.

Valiant on January 15, 2007 at 9:41 AM

I pray that her final words are carried out. The officers of court must be above reproach. Nifong belongs in jail, where he was trying to railroad innocent men.

iNeXus, maybe the mom was more eloquent. Ever see in nature when a stronger aggressive animal tries to move into the den of a mother? Get between a mother and its young and see where you end up.

right2bright on January 15, 2007 at 9:42 AM

That mother strikes me as someone who means what she says.

Nifong is toast.

Slublog on January 15, 2007 at 9:46 AM

Nifong needs to hang. It’s because of prosecutors like him that people oppose the death penalty. Would you trust his prosecutorial practices in a capital murder case? No f-ing way.

For another taste of prosecutorial misconduct, read The Innocent Man by John Grisham. It’s a non-fiction account of a guy who almost rode the needle because of an idiot like Mike Nifong.

flipflop on January 15, 2007 at 9:49 AM

Here we go again. Let’s assume that the three young men are innocent since there is no evidence to the contrary. This guy NiWrong has put a mark on them that will never be totally erased. Let’s assume that the case will be dismissed for lack of evidence. The state bar association investigates NiWrong and determines that he has done something wrong (that rhymes with his name doesn’t it?). If they punish him in any way it will be like a Sandy Berger punishment. A ‘you shouldn’t have done that’ type of admonishment and a slap on the wrist. Don’t forget that the state bar association is made up of lawyers and they stick together as tight as doctors. It is a rare thing when a doctor or lawyer testifies against their own kind.

We can only hope that the parents file a law suit large enough to make Mr. NiWrong wish he had never heard of the Duke LaCrosse team and get an honest judge to hear the case.

OBX Pete on January 15, 2007 at 10:02 AM

Can Nifong be held accountable on criminal charges or in civil court?

bloviator on January 15, 2007 at 10:02 AM

Jesse did not stay away from this. He offered to give this gal a scholarship to pay for her college tuition REGARDLESS of the outcome.

http://johninnorthcarolina.blogspot.com/2006/04/rev-jesse-jackson-steps-into-duke.html

And Bill O’ put Sharpton on record here.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,192277,00.html

Al and Jesse NEVER miss an opportunity to get their faces on the news. THAT is how they get the donations that funds their lifestyles.

To me the real clue to stay away from a situation is when the New Black Panther Party gets involved. They were all over this thing also.

csdeven on January 15, 2007 at 10:05 AM

I don’t blame this mother 1 bit. Can you imagine what these parents have gone thorugh? The economic hardship was bad enough (coming up with $400,000 cash bond), but the emotional toll as well?

Nifong should be very worried about his possible disbarment!

Pam on January 15, 2007 at 10:19 AM

How many of us here would like to hear Bush say to the dems….

“You have picked the wrong side of this war in Iraq and you will pay for the rest of your political life”.

Lets get that Duke mom to run for President in ’08.

csdeven on January 15, 2007 at 10:20 AM

Nifong will wind up sitting next to Michael Moore at the 08 Dem convention.
Common bond and all.

bbz123 on January 15, 2007 at 10:21 AM

Nifong needs to hang. It’s because of prosecutors like him that people oppose the death penalty. Would you trust his prosecutorial practices in a capital murder case? No f-ing way.

What you said

Jesse did not stay away from this. He offered to give this gal a scholarship to pay for her college tuition REGARDLESS of the outcome.

Great idea. Let’s reward people who accuse others of crimes, regardless of guilt. Better than a Pell Grant.

Wade on January 15, 2007 at 10:31 AM

Nifong is going DOWN.

infidel4life on January 15, 2007 at 10:49 AM

EVERY DAY FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE, NIFONG, EVERYDAY!!!

And I hope some of the nutcases that so belligerently denied justice (some named above) go down as well.

shooter on January 15, 2007 at 10:50 AM

How many of us here would like to hear Bush say to the dems….

“You have picked the wrong side of this war in Iraq and you will pay for the rest of your political life”.

Lets get that Duke mom to run for President in ‘08.

csdeven on January 15, 2007 at 10:20 AM

Are you serious? If Bush said that he would be laughed out of office. Bush’s handling of Iraq has divided Republicans, seriously comprised his legacy, caused his party to lose both Houses of Congress, and created a country just as unstable and violent as it was under Saddam and he should start telling people they will pay for the rest of their poltical life by opposing him? I hope for entertainment’s sake he takes your suggestion.

JaHerer22 on January 15, 2007 at 10:51 AM

Aside from feeling sorry for these kids, is there some kind of rule that the fathers can’t talk?

Is it maybe because the interviewer is a female?

There may be a double lawsuit here.

I thought about that myself, but then you have to realize that they probably talked to these parents for hours, and they only show the most compelling statements and people. It seemed Reade Seligmann’s Mom was on the most, but I think it was because she was the most telegenic of the six.

I’m pretty sure they probably all spoke quite a bit.

asc85 on January 15, 2007 at 11:01 AM

JaHerer22 on January 15, 2007 at 10:51 AM

and created a country just as unstable and violent as it was under Saddam

BUSH created it? That’s like saying the attempt by minorities to achieve equality created the increase in violence in the south!

Where do you people get these ideas?

WE, the USA are the GOOD GUYS!!!

Those who are killing civilians in Iraq are the BAD GUYS!!!

You act like the sectarian violence is subject to certainty like a falling object is subject the phyiscal rules of gravity! The apple DOES NOT CHOOSE to fall to the earth as it has no choice in the matter. Militias CHOOSE TO KILL CIVILIANS and they have the power to choose not to engage in such!!!!

Wake the hell up will ya?

csdeven on January 15, 2007 at 11:05 AM

Have you noticed how the ACLU is all over this one?

~Speechless.

locomotivebreath1901 on January 15, 2007 at 11:11 AM

A reminder to the public of how Duke’s Presdient has portrayed this to the Duke “community.”
Just as important, we must work together to restore the fabric of mutual respect. One of the things I have most regretted is the way students and faculty have felt themselves disparaged and their views caricatured in ongoing debates, often by individuals – sometimes anonymous – outside the Duke community. In the age of instantaneous worldwide media coverage, members of the lacrosse team were judged around the world on the basis of highly selective, highly prejudicial coverage last spring. A number of them were subjected to vile abuse. More recently, a group of Duke faculty members (including a number of African American faculty) have been widely attacked in blogs and emails – and in some cases personally attacked in highly repugnant and vicious terms – based on caricatured accounts of their statements on the lacrosse event.
http://www.duke.edu/2007/01/letter_to_community.html
Notice how he makes the “Group of 88″ faculty members out to also be victims, as if they didn’t do anything at all – and insinuates a deeper problem when he takes pains to mention that the group included “a number of African American faculty.” and that the group was “widely attacked in blogs and emails… “based on highly caricatured accounts of their statements.”
Seems as if the President of Duke is pushing the victim card, the race card, and the blogs are baaaaaaad card.
They don’t “Get it” over there. Don’t seem to comprehend that much of the complained about “highly prejudicial judging” was in fact going on right inside Duke itself, whipped up by fellow students steeped in victimhood, egged on by the Duke-paid professors that taught them that. Don’t blame the blogs for pointing out what looked suspiciously similiar to scapegoating.

naliaka on January 15, 2007 at 11:19 AM

Aside from feeling sorry for these kids, is there some kind of rule that the fathers can’t talk?

Is it maybe because the interviewer is a female?

No, it’s because the crime is RAPE, and all men are potential RAPISTS. Especially WHITE MEN who rape BLACK slaves like Thomas Jefferson did*. Even those of us who have never actually done it deep down want to do it. All the boys in that party wanted to rape the strippers, hell they probably even want to rape their own mothers. If you don’t believe it, ask a womyn.

(*There is not absolute proof that Jefferson fathered a child with Sally Hemmings. There is pretty strong evidence that someone in his family did, but there are other candidates for the honor. Then there’s the question of whether it was consensual, within the context of how ‘consent’ can be granted by a slave in the first place….)

The Monster on January 15, 2007 at 11:33 AM

Well what it is Mr. Brodhead? A private matter to be commented upon only by those at Duke or a public matter commented upon those who live in this country? What does the race of the “Group of 88″ have to do with any of this? Even after all this they are still using the race card. My advice to all these highly educated fools is that they need to look at this case with the facts and stop inserting their own bias into it. Much of what I thought was unfair was printed in the mainstream media. Did anyone notice he has MOUSTACHE!!!!!!

bloggless on January 15, 2007 at 11:37 AM

back to the Duke case

this was an example of people rushing to blame white kids when there’s a black/minority victim. Those same people who think the police and the court systems are out to get minorities when a minority commits the crime can’t wait to defend and preach the virgin purity of that same system if the accused is white no matter how insane the case gets.

Defector01 on January 15, 2007 at 11:58 AM

It’s the old Democratic strategy of race and class warfare- pitting the poor vs. the middle class and, in this case, combining it with black vs. white. This formula won Nifong an election and hopefully it will win him entrance to Slammer University as well.

MaiDee on January 15, 2007 at 12:09 PM

Don’t mess with mom.

PRCalDude on January 15, 2007 at 12:22 PM

“Here we go again. Let’s assume that the three young men are innocent since there is no evidence to the contrary. This guy NiWrong has put a mark on them that will never be totally erased.”
OBX Pete on January 15, 2007 at 10:02 AM

These guys are hosed….innocent or guilty.
Innocent: Who’s going to hire them? Even if they get hired there will always be the talk and whispers. Poor Bast#$%s!
Guilty: Chop off the nuggets.

VikingGoneWild on January 15, 2007 at 12:57 PM

violating ethical rules governing the conduct of lawyers.

????????

What rules???? Eating your young? Inbreeding? Cannibalism? Grave robbing?

OK, let’s hear from the lawers in the crowd…….

PinkyBigglesworth on January 15, 2007 at 1:38 PM

Aside from feeling sorry for these kids, is there some kind of rule that the fathers can’t talk?

Is it maybe because the interviewer is a female?

There may be a double lawsuit here.

I thought about that myself, but then you have to realize that they probably talked to these parents for hours, and they only show the most compelling statements and people. It seemed Reade Seligmann’s Mom was on the most, but I think it was because she was the most telegenic of the six.

I’m pretty sure they probably all spoke quite a bit.

Having done a 60 Minutes segment before, it is amazing how much is said, and how much is chopped out.
It all depends on what THEY want to present to the viewers.

These guys are hosed….innocent or guilty.
Innocent: Who’s going to hire them? Even if they get hired there will always be the talk and whispers. Poor Bast#$%s!

Not that I think he is innocent, but remember William Kennedy Smith?

No matter how much time goes by, these guys will always be tagged with this.

…and that nitwit Brodhead wants everyone to feel sorry for the ivory tower denizens.

91Veteran on January 15, 2007 at 1:49 PM

Even Jessie and Al gave this one a wide berth. That alone should have tipped off Nifong to stay away. Too bad he can’t be prosecuted for obstruction of justice, but hey, he won re-election. Thank you Durham.

Valiant on January 15, 2007 at 9:41 AM

that town must be full of retards to elect and relect this dooshbag

retired on January 15, 2007 at 3:21 PM

I want to comment about my own case which is very similar to this one, but can’t(advice of my lawyer).
Let me just say it’s been going on for 4+ years.
I expected to have the charges dismissed on a number of occasions, but I’m going to court(not trial).
It is nice to observe that many here know when someone’s being screwed by the “justice system”.
I wouldn’t wish this misery on anyone except the prosecutor/persecutor.

If discovered and questioned, I will disavow/deny any knowledge of this comment under advice of council.

tormod on January 15, 2007 at 3:44 PM

They don’t call it “the Pokey” for nothin’……….

seejanemom on January 15, 2007 at 3:57 PM

naliaka on January 15, 2007 at 11:19 AM

Great post.

right2bright on January 15, 2007 at 4:24 PM

Do you know who ought to be really mad? The runaway bride Jennifer Wilbanks. The lying stripper took everyone for a ride much worse than JW ever had. No talk of punishing the accuser. All Nifongs fault-even in this thread. I say nail her to a stripper pole.

Buck Turgidson on January 15, 2007 at 4:25 PM

OK, let’s hear from the lawers in the crowd…….

PinkyBigglesworth on January 15, 2007 at 1:38 PM

PinkyBigglesworth, AP is a lawyer.

Having done a 60 Minutes segment before, it is amazing how much is said, and how much is chopped out.
It all depends on what THEY want to present to the viewers.

91Veteran on January 15, 2007 at 1:49 PM

An acquaintance who worked for 60 Min. said the same thing, that reality and what they show (video parts and reporting slants) is sometimes like Zenith from Abyss.

It seems like Nifong is following the French law, in this case…

Entelechy on January 15, 2007 at 4:37 PM

“…I hope for entertainment’s sake he takes your suggestion.”

And what could possibly be more “entertaining” for a compassionate, concerned liberal than seeing Brown People™ suffer as horribly as they did under a brutal dictator — just so long as Bushitler and the evil Jews neocons can be blamed for it?

Mike H on January 15, 2007 at 4:37 PM

You know, in my alternate universe the media is prohibited from reporting any accusations, arrests or indictments, only fully adjudicated court convictions or acquittals upon the reading of a verdict.

Does anyone think that these indictments would have ever happened if this were the law?

Benthoven on January 15, 2007 at 4:57 PM

I’m just waiting for the outburst of media rage over the kidnapping, killing and rape of two young people that happened here … a week ago.

*crickets chirping*

Why the silence? Could it be … the victims were white and the suspects black?

Fox News made a mention … 5 days after they were taken, the day after suspects were arrested. Nothing on CNN. The AP is carrying a copy of the local newspaper version. No one is mentioning anything about a hate crime, or passing around a petition at the U … just some poor white kids were in the wrong place at the wrong time, sucks to be them.

And given how my brother’s murderer was sentenced to a total of 12 years along with a felony cocaine possession charge, and served 12 months, the rest on probation, despite being arrested several times while out on bond, and again after release to probation … I do not hold out any hope for justice in this town. For anyone.

Sorry for the thread-jacking but in light of the circus that the Duke case became, I am seriously pissed …

LissaKay on January 16, 2007 at 1:00 AM

When are we going to see this whore in hand-cuffs headed to jail for filing a false police report?

Tim Burton on January 16, 2007 at 1:29 AM

When are we going to see this whore in hand-cuffs headed to jail for filing a false police report?

And NiThong in a perpwalk behind her. NiThong belongs in prison so the prison lacross team can have their way with him.

Wade on January 16, 2007 at 10:45 AM

It’s like one of the parents said on the show, Google any of the 3 guys named and you will get 1000′s of pages to look at. What employer would hire these kids now? The DA is just that, a Dumb A$$ and he should have to pay for the rest of his life for what he did. The kids will pay for what DA did the rest of their lifes.

bubbadog89 on January 16, 2007 at 11:09 AM