A perfect example of this is the requirement to extradite any American citizen that reside in another country. No American can be removed from another country to stand trial here without the permission of that citizen or the respective government.

The President can not order the Justice department to extract that citizen without following the laws and/or treaties of the respected government involved. If such a situation arose and a citizen was to stand trial here, the American courts would invalidate the arrest and detention of that citizen as it is contrary to federal law.

The President, and the American government, has very little authority over citizens living abroad, and those citizens can, if they wish, ignore any and all authority of the US with little or no recourse by this government.

Why do you think so many draft dodgers fled to Canada during the Vietnam War? It’s because they knew that there was little America could do to enforce it’s authority on those people.

There are many American citizens living abroad, and they can vote and do, mostly for the Left.

However they vote, the U.S. President is still their CiC. I believe that’s what he was saying…

He stated in the beginning of his joining this site that he’s married to a French lady and has kids, and lives there.

I guess that makes him an American-Franco.

It also invalidates his’ “After 6 years of life under this commander and chief” argument, unless President Bush also the Commander in Chief of the French military and is also President of France. If that were true then we know where the troops for the Surge will be coming from.

BTW, It’s Commander in Chief, not Commander and Chief. That’s a common mistake, but since Drifter is interested in accuracy I felt that should be pointed out.

The Constitution of the United States gives the title to the President of the United States, who “shall be Commander-in-Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commander-in-Chief

The Shadow? Literary allusion? You have raised partisan denial to a new level here…

Half these posters aren’t what they say they are. Drifter is probably sitting in some barn in Ok. waiting for the ice to melt.

right2bright on January 15, 2007 at 4:31 PM

Watch it! Not all of us in OK are banjo picking inbreds!

As for dipweed Matthews, he’s just that, a dipweed. When the SHTF, I won’t waste my ammo on proctecting his sorry hide.

Valerie Plame

????? The man has gone stark raving mas cuz he can’t beat that dead horse anymore!!!

Well at least SOMEBODY is having kids in Fwance besides muz … hey, wait a minute! Now it’s all coming together!

Chris Matthews, what a piece of work! Just another democrap oxygen thief.

Zorro on January 15, 2007 at 7:22 PM

He’ll say anything to try to boost his ratings – no one with a brain wastes any time on his program. I’d rather watch Glenn Beck.

You know, the ones who think Bush is Hitler instead of Satan…

our Drifter doesn’t live in Britain; he lives in Brittany, a region in France. He stated in the beginning of his joining this site that he’s married to a French lady and has kids, and lives there.

I don’t know the gent personally but I do believe what people claim on this board and don’t question that further, unless they prove otherwise. I believed you when you stated your profession. I have no reason to believe otherwise.

So long as the trolls don’t insult others, I actually like having them around. Call me naive and/or crazy but it’s not much different than in life – one comes across all kinds and we deal with them.

I never aim to convert them and, obviously, their success with us is nil too. It w/b nice to be able to hold a discussion, without calling the other an idiot, swine, dumb or whatever…Maybe it’s futile and idealistic…and I have failed in my own quest, repeatedly – mea culpa maxima. Sometimes our tempers just snap. Some of us regret it and some are just simply snooty and go on.

I find most amusing that if we stick to our points, we are not objective and dumb – if they stick to theirs, they are enlightened, fair and most intelligent.

I meant ‘water’ in the sense of ‘watered down’ or not strong…
Entelechy on January 15, 2007 at 5:35 PM

He knew exactly what you meant. People like him, when confronted by an argument they are losing, resort to cheap shots. I notice that when he is beaten, he retreats. Never saying he is wrong, he just posts his crap, than runs. The irony, is that posters put up with him. You must know him personally, you seem convinced that he lives in Britain. If you don’t know him personally, don’t bet on it.

I meant ‘water’ in the sense of ‘watered down’ or not strong.

Your presidential leanings are still an exception to the two groups. There always are, to strengthen the rule:

- Mr. Moynahan voted for Mr. Ford it turns out, and
- Mr. and Mrs. McGovern did too, in 1976.

Presidential deaths are very revealing.

Any other ideas?

Lots of us do, believe it or not. And as far as not finding anything redeeming in any conservative living U.S. president, I supported for 2 of the last 3, though since Reagan is no longer living he doesn’t count. And of the 2 remaining democrat presidents still alive, I supported neither. So, there you have it.

May I be the first to call BULLSHIT on that tired old lie? That patently phony claim seems awfully popular among the leftist trollery the last couple of years… Nothing you’ve ever posted could support that claim, so why do you bother? You can’t possibly expect anyone here to buy that, can you?

The “tag-line” of “Can Congress Stop White House Plans?” proves this point.

The disinformation by the press is so complete and so absolute that the vast majority of American simply do not understand what is actually happening and what is at stake in the war in Iraq. It is utterly impossible to engage people and have a civil discussion about the war in Iraq because “everybody knows” that Iraq is a disaster, that we’ve lost the war, blah, blah, blah.

This is what the American people are NOT BEING TOLD about Iraq:

The fact that more than 90 percent of the violence that dominates reporting from Iraq takes place in five neighborhoods in Baghdad, plus one of the 18 Iraqi provinces, is neither here nor there. The perception is that all of Iraq is lost. [Amir Taheri, IRAQ: WHY THE MEDIA MISSTEP]

Why isn’t America being told these facts? Why is the perception that ALL of Iraq is violent, that the almost all the killing of Americans and innocent Iraqis is throughout the country instead of within specific neighborhoods of Baghdad and one province (Anbar)?

Taheri blames, or rather excuses, the inability to tell the true story to the lack of reporters on the ground, unfamiliarity with Arabic and local custom, corrupt “translators” and stringers, etc., and the UNWILLINGNESS of reporters to embed with US troops.

I disagree. I agree with UPI’s Pam Hess who notes that the media doesn’t care one iota if America loses. They don’t WANT to tell the true story because it interferes with achieving their agenda — the utter disgrace of the Bush presidency. As Hess notes, they don’t care what the national security implications of losing Iraq are.

Here are things that Taheri says Americans don’t know, because our media WON’T TELL THEM:

Last month, Iraq received the U.N.’s special environmental prize for reviving parts of the marshes drained by Saddam, thus saving one of the world’s most precious ecological treasures. Almost no one in the media noticed.

Also last month, the Iraqi soccer squad reached the finals of the Asian Games – beating out Japan, China, South Korea and Iran. Again, few in the West noticed.

In 2006, almost 200 major reconstruction projects were officially completed and 4,000 new private companies registered in Iraq. But few seem interested in the return of private capitalism after nearly 50 years of Soviet-style control.

Iraq’s new political life is either ignored or dismissed as irrelevant. The creation of political parties (some emerging from decades of clandestine life), the work of Iraq’s parliament, the fact that it is almost the only Arab country where people are free to discuss politics to their hearts’ content – these are of no interest to those determined to see Iraq as a disaster, as proof that toppling Saddam was a modern version of the original sin.

Iraq may still become any of those things – but right now it is none of them. When the real history of the Iraq war is written, posterity might marvel at the way modern media were used to manufacture that original sin. [Ibid.]

Someday, I hope that the traitor-class MSM gets their “just reward” of permanent disgrace, or better yet, imprisonment (or death as provided by law), for their treasonous behavior. I’ll personally upgrade to premium cable AND pay-per-view to watch Matthews go to the gallows.

‘We will not go quietly into the night!’-President What’s His Name….you know, the guy who shot down those invader space ships……or Churchill maybe….can’t remember.

Tony737 on January 15, 2007 at 4:22 PM

Half these posters aren’t what they say they are. Drifter is probably sitting in some barn in Ok. waiting for the ice to melt.