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Video: Chris Matthews says ‘evil lurks’ in Bush

posted at 1:36 pm on January 15, 2007 by Ian
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Doing what he does best, Chris Matthews took a swipe at President Bush on ‘The Today Show’ this morning. Matthews clearly suggested “evil lurks” around President Bush in deciding what to do with Iran. Watch:


Here’s what Matthews said:

Matthews: The danger is we might cross the border into Iraq [sic], therefore triggering a reaction from, from Iran rather, and then we go to war with Iran. And I think the President might well want to do that. Who knows what evil lurks? But the fact of the matter is that the American public may never get a say in this. The Congress may never get a say in it.”

Newsbusters’ Mark Finkelstein deconstructs the “he was referring to Iran” argument:

I read “evil lurks” as referring to President Bush, Matthews way of saying “who knows what Bush might be up to next?” For those would argue that the “evil” Matthews was referring to is Iran’s, have a good look again at the statement. “Evil lurks” immediately follows Matthews’ speculation that President Bush might want to go to war with Iran. Matthews’ comment immediately following “evil lurks” reinforces this interpretation. He complains that neither the American public nor Congress might ever have a say on Bush’s plans.

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This wormy little jerk would starve if he had to get a real job and work for a living.

rplat on January 15, 2007 at 1:44 PM

What a has been. I think he’s trying to increase his ratings by taking on an Olbermann style … you know, completely off the deep end. He is beginning to look a little haggard though, and his head is taking the shape of a walnut.

darwin on January 15, 2007 at 1:44 PM

Matthews seems to have a lot of evil things to say about our president and vice president. How about him accusing Cheney of loving to kill people on Imus last week. And now calling Bush an evil person.
Oh well – this is another thing to prove the far left crazy turn that NBC has taken since Briam Williams took over the news.
How long is NBC going to wait to put Matthews out to pasture? His ratings are now lower than his IQ>

OBX Pete on January 15, 2007 at 1:47 PM

Well, you know what? Idiocy lurks in Chris Matthews.

ReubenJCogburn on January 15, 2007 at 1:54 PM

[Say] Anything for ratings.

Kini on January 15, 2007 at 1:55 PM

He used to write Jimmy Carter’s speeches.

No wonder he thinks dealing with the psychotic Iranian mullahs is “evil.”

Good Lt on January 15, 2007 at 1:58 PM

I couldn’t have written it any better……….

iveseenitall Says:
January 15, 2007 – 10:40
Matthews and his ilk are putting America at risk. The irony is that their garbage, just as in Vietnam, is causing this war to go on. Liberals love to deny reality. They want to live in their fantasy world of peace at any price. Reality is that Iran is a major player in this. Our kids are dying, not because of the President, but because of the monsters of the press who wish ill on America simply to rationalize their own ideology. Iran has to be faced no matter who is president. If not, our children and grandchildren will suffer horribly. The press would rather stick its head in the sand and blame “evil” America. Typical, disgusting liberalism.
NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal

Again and again, this tripe is spoon fed to our enemies, edited, printed and broadcasted, over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again……….no fair and balanced, just propaganda with your name on it. See a pattern Mz. Matthews???

PinkyBigglesworth on January 15, 2007 at 2:03 PM

Not defending the small minded little prick, but his reference may go back to the old radio show, “the Shadow”

Ie “Who knows whaty evil lurks in the hearts of men? The shadow knows” (maybe it was “only the shadow knows” been a long time)

SO it sounds as if he is refering to that old quote to basicly say that no one knows what it is in Bush’s heart to do. Maybe he is not calling Bush evil (do liberals even beleive in evil???) But he is attributing meglomania on Bush.

Mathews probally needs to learn about whats goin on in this world, instead of using fantasy quotes to sum up his narrow views he may get an education in reality if he would walk out of his opaque glass house and actually Look at the world.

Wyrd on January 15, 2007 at 2:04 PM

Is there a picture of Chris Matthews kissing Mahmoud Ahmadinejad?

Capp on January 15, 2007 at 2:05 PM

Chris Matthews is a talking sphincter.

Glynn on January 15, 2007 at 2:10 PM

he needs a head MRI..

tho I doubt they will find much there.

normsrevenge on January 15, 2007 at 2:12 PM

Pretty sure this is a literary allusion, as Wyrd suggests.

honora on January 15, 2007 at 2:15 PM

Evil would lurk in Chris Matthews.

IF HE HAD A HEART.

seejanemom on January 15, 2007 at 2:17 PM

Our kids are dying, not because of the President, but because of the monsters of the press who wish ill on America simply to rationalize their own ideology.

I couldn’t have written it any better……….

PinkyBigglesworth on January 15, 2007 at 2:03 PM

I guess unless we’re hanging with the homeboys talking blow torches, plyers and getting “midevil” on some Michael Foxtrots you’re just at a loss for words huh?

Would you concur Mr. Pundit? Do you think that the press is responsible for the carnage? Or do you think that the insurgents and various militias might have something to do with it all?

THeDRiFTeR on January 15, 2007 at 2:21 PM

We all know what lurks in the twisted mind of Chris “Gríma Wormtongue” Matthews.

x95b10 on January 15, 2007 at 2:24 PM

Beady-eyed little rat.

Lehuster on January 15, 2007 at 2:28 PM

And this “who knows what evil lurks”? The Shadow knows. Its the evil that lurks “in the hearts of men”. This was clearly an attack on Bush. No question. I think you could fairly paraphrase him by saying, Who knows what evil lurks in the mind of Dubya…

We’re a long way from

“Sometimes it glimmers with this man, our president, that kind of sunny nobility.” [Hardball, 10/24/05]

or

“If [Bush's] gamble that he can create a democracy in the middle of the Arab world” is successful, “he belongs on Mount Rushmore.” [Hardball, 12/16/05]

THeDRiFTeR on January 15, 2007 at 2:30 PM

NBC, MSNBC …. the peacock people.

Their no-it-all attitude is a facade. What lies beneath is a frightened liitle bird presuming others will be swooned by it’s flowery presentation.

fogw on January 15, 2007 at 2:43 PM

Would you concur Mr. Pundit? Do you think that the press is responsible for the carnage? Or do you think that the insurgents and various militias might have something to do with it all?

THeDRiFTeR on January 15, 2007 at 2:21 PM

Struck a nerve, did I?

Me thinks you protest too much, or do you think years of negative propaganda against the Commander in Chief, leaking of sensative classified operations that actually have protected the American people, attacking those who are actually trying to proctect us all for POLITICAL purposes and giving ammunition, aid, and comfort to our enemies by way of our airways is just editorial comment, and not used as a recruiting tool?

Your feeble mind apparently has no concept of what is actually going on in this world and the real danger that exists, and as far as going midevil, try renting Pulp Fiction sometime. Maybe you can play the Gimp!

PinkyBigglesworth on January 15, 2007 at 2:51 PM

Can we dress Matthews in a Reggie bush jeresy and run a swing pass?

VikingGoneWild on January 15, 2007 at 2:59 PM

What Matthews SHOULD have said:

The danger is we that MSNBC might cross the border into Iraq [sic] journalistic integrity, therefore triggering a reaction from, from Iran the main stream media rather, and then we go to war with Iran CNN and CBS. And I think the President our viewers might well want us to do that. Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of MSNBC executives? But the fact of the matter is that the American public may never get a say in this. The Congress may Certainly our viewers will never get a say in it.”

There. Fixed that for ya’ Chris. No need to thank me. Just bein’ neighborly.

CyberCipher on January 15, 2007 at 3:02 PM

Me thinks you protest too much, or do you think years of negative propaganda against the Commander in Chief, blah, blah, blah…

PinkyBigglesworth on January 15, 2007 at 2:51 PM

You thinks, do you? After 6 years of life under this commander and chief I can scarcely think of anything positive to say about him, and I don’t think I’m alone when the best thing that can be said about him even here at Hot Air is that he ‘antagonizes the left on “60 Minutes”’.

On a side not Allahpundit, I noticed that you made a big deal about what Boxer had to say to Rice during the hearings, but nary a word or link on what some of the Republicans had to say.

Nuance.

THeDRiFTeR on January 15, 2007 at 3:03 PM

I am not a fan of Chris Matthews, but I did not get the same interpretation as others from watching this video.

What I saw is a realistic assesment of possible outcomes of the current situation. It is possible, perhaps probable, that Iran will become actively engaged in conflict with the United States in a situation that was described. This probability increases as it becomes more apparent that Iran is concealing the location and their actual progress towards developing nuclear weapons.

The comment “who know what evil lurks” I do not believe is a comment directed to President Bush, but rather the possible conflicts that may arise from the situation we are in now. It may be limited engagement of Iran, it may be a more expansive conflict, it is unknown at this time.

Although I am definitely not a fan of the likes of Chris Matthews I do not believe that we should discount anything they say and take opposition because of the source. The prospect of becoming so partisan that we disregard any input that is not consistent with our political party lines is a very real phenonema during these times. I believe that is what happening here.

omegaram on January 15, 2007 at 3:05 PM

blah, blah, blah…..
THeDRiFTeR on January 15, 2007 at 3:03 PM

Your arguement, exactly! Seemed to have missed the high points, but I guess the facts just get in the way……

PinkyBigglesworth on January 15, 2007 at 3:08 PM

The prospect of becoming so partisan that we disregard any input that is not consistent with our political party lines is a very real phenonema during these times. I believe that is what happening here.

omegaram on January 15, 2007 at 3:05 PM

Looks to me like the so called jamilgate bullshit will not have been for naught.

THeDRiFTeR on January 15, 2007 at 3:11 PM

How did “jamilgate” get into this topic? It is not relevant to the video on this post. It would appear that some posts here are very Partisan – with favor to the Left – and without reasonable attention to the facts.

The story of AP’s “reporting” and their use of dubious or non-existant sources to support their bias to the Left and support of their propaganda I do not believe is relevant to the video posted.

Some on this thread indicate a definite, and irrational, bias to the left without regard to facts.

omegaram on January 15, 2007 at 3:21 PM

Iran attacked us in 1979.
Iran has been steadily pushing for a conflict with “The Great Satan” since then (in some instances before then).
The fanatics of the Muslim religeon have been pushing for a confrontation for centuries, and have been waiting for the appointed time, which some beleive is nearly here.

So while some short minded people may want to point at Bush, the fact is that this has been brewing far longer then his presidency.
All Bush did was stand up to the enemy, instead of giving them aid and asking them to talk about their feelings (yes, I know that he has not stood up to all the enemy. For example, he let the Saudies get away with murder and supporting many of the elements we are fighting)
Instead Bush said “You mess with the US expect to get burned”
And ever since then the liberals and the press have been hounding him. I imagine that things would be greatly differnet if the Democrats had continued to support Bush, and if the papers only reported the news instead of leftist op eds. Perhaps Iraq would be standing on its own 2 feet. perhaps Iran would not be months away form nukes. maybe N. Korea would have dropped their program knowing what was instore for them.

Instead what we have is a bunch of people that can not think past their immediate gratification and desire for power pleading for the US to surrender and in some cases disarm so that they can atone for make beleive feelings of guilt.

(yes, this is mostly a generalisation)

Wyrd on January 15, 2007 at 3:24 PM

Yeah Chris, that is what I want. The American public to vote on all of our war efforts. We all have such good insight to what is happening in Iraq. And let’s have the congress vote, the partisan politics would never interfere.

Deficit lower in years
Un-employment down
Stock market all time high
Economy booming
Strongest economy in the world
Minimum wage up (oops that was Pelosi’s, too bad it doesn’t apply to all of her district)
That is for the guy who is drifting, he forgot about the economic boom under this president.

right2bright on January 15, 2007 at 3:30 PM

Evil lurks within President Bush? If, by “evil,” Blondie means something like “a capacity for cruelty well used” and “an unconflicted desire for victory by any prudent means,” then I wish I thought it were so.

Kralizec on January 15, 2007 at 3:44 PM

omegaram on January 15, 2007 at 3:05 PM

…and the objective HA trolls are going to reciprocate soon with a change of mind on absolute/abstract BDS. Just see the Drifter on “six years of the CiC…”

Drifter, your lot and Europeans, most all, have never, ever found anything redeeming in any conservative living U.S. president – thus, your ’six years’ statement is all water.

Entelechy on January 15, 2007 at 3:47 PM

Deficit lower in years???

right2bright on January 15, 2007 at 3:30 PM

Umm, maybe right not 2 bright huh!

THeDRiFTeR on January 15, 2007 at 3:50 PM

Drifter, your lot and Europeans, most all, have never, ever found anything redeeming in any conservative living U.S. president – thus, your ’six years’ statement is all water.

Entelechy on January 15, 2007 at 3:47 PM

Actually Entelechy, I’m American. I just live in Europe. Lots of us do, believe it or not. And as far as not finding anything redeeming in any conservative living U.S. president, I supported for 2 of the last 3, though since Reagan is no longer living he doesn’t count. And of the 2 remaining democrat presidents still alive, I supported neither. So, there you have it.

BTW, what does it mean that my statement “is all water”? Is that a Romanian thing?

THeDRiFTeR on January 15, 2007 at 3:59 PM

Hey Chris, if it weren’t for Bush fighting back against the global jihad, the very building you attack him from could be a smoldering pile of rubble and YOU would be unemployed, starving, looking for food, running from house to house, ducking small arms fire and RPGs. You’d be asking anybody with a gun to protect you from the hordes of jihadi holy warriors, begging the Army to let you embed. Support the war effort or buy yourself a friggin’ prayer rug. Abu Chris Achmed Mathias bin al-Punkassbitch.

Tony737 on January 15, 2007 at 4:15 PM

THeDRiFTeR on January 15, 2007 at 3:50 PM

So you argue the grammar and not the point?
Here let me type real slow for you…
The federal budget deficit is lower now than it has been in 4 years.
Thousand of people in the blogosphere, and we end up with someone, when confronted with facts, complains about grammar. Typical liberal.

right2bright on January 15, 2007 at 4:20 PM

You live in Europe? You’ll be home soon, when the jihad gets into full gear, you’ll come running back to safety and security of America. Either that or you’ll be mooning the sky 5 times a day.

Suggested reading: “While Europe Slept” – Bruce Bower

Tony737 on January 15, 2007 at 4:22 PM

Tony737 on January 15, 2007 at 4:22 PM

Half these posters aren’t what they say they are. Drifter is probably sitting in some barn in Ok. waiting for the ice to melt.

right2bright on January 15, 2007 at 4:31 PM

He and Olby are simply the line in the sand. They are our best defense against Darth Vader. We all know today, because of people like them, that Klingon’s are in the White House. Mount Rushmore needs a re-chisel; Rather, Matthews, Obly, and Rosie. THAT will put South Dakota on the map. Wake up America. You are evil and the gig is up.

‘We will not go quietly into the night!’-President What’s His Name….you know, the guy who shot down those invader space ships……or Churchill maybe….can’t remember.

Limerick on January 15, 2007 at 4:47 PM

Chris Matthews proves every day in every way that the left is biased far left, and is willing to sabotage a war that America is fighting for partisan political gain.

The “tag-line” of “Can Congress Stop White House Plans?” proves this point.

The disinformation by the press is so complete and so absolute that the vast majority of American simply do not understand what is actually happening and what is at stake in the war in Iraq. It is utterly impossible to engage people and have a civil discussion about the war in Iraq because “everybody knows” that Iraq is a disaster, that we’ve lost the war, blah, blah, blah.

This is what the American people are NOT BEING TOLD about Iraq:

The fact that more than 90 percent of the violence that dominates reporting from Iraq takes place in five neighborhoods in Baghdad, plus one of the 18 Iraqi provinces, is neither here nor there. The perception is that all of Iraq is lost. [Amir Taheri, IRAQ: WHY THE MEDIA MISSTEP]

Why isn’t America being told these facts? Why is the perception that ALL of Iraq is violent, that the almost all the killing of Americans and innocent Iraqis is throughout the country instead of within specific neighborhoods of Baghdad and one province (Anbar)?

Taheri blames, or rather excuses, the inability to tell the true story to the lack of reporters on the ground, unfamiliarity with Arabic and local custom, corrupt “translators” and stringers, etc., and the UNWILLINGNESS of reporters to embed with US troops.

I disagree. I agree with UPI’s Pam Hess who notes that the media doesn’t care one iota if America loses. They don’t WANT to tell the true story because it interferes with achieving their agenda — the utter disgrace of the Bush presidency. As Hess notes, they don’t care what the national security implications of losing Iraq are.

Here are things that Taheri says Americans don’t know, because our media WON’T TELL THEM:

Last month, Iraq received the U.N.’s special environmental prize for reviving parts of the marshes drained by Saddam, thus saving one of the world’s most precious ecological treasures. Almost no one in the media noticed.

Also last month, the Iraqi soccer squad reached the finals of the Asian Games – beating out Japan, China, South Korea and Iran. Again, few in the West noticed.

In 2006, almost 200 major reconstruction projects were officially completed and 4,000 new private companies registered in Iraq. But few seem interested in the return of private capitalism after nearly 50 years of Soviet-style control.

Iraq’s new political life is either ignored or dismissed as irrelevant. The creation of political parties (some emerging from decades of clandestine life), the work of Iraq’s parliament, the fact that it is almost the only Arab country where people are free to discuss politics to their hearts’ content – these are of no interest to those determined to see Iraq as a disaster, as proof that toppling Saddam was a modern version of the original sin.

Iraq may still become any of those things – but right now it is none of them. When the real history of the Iraq war is written, posterity might marvel at the way modern media were used to manufacture that original sin. [Ibid.]

Someday, I hope that the traitor-class MSM gets their “just reward” of permanent disgrace, or better yet, imprisonment (or death as provided by law), for their treasonous behavior. I’ll personally upgrade to premium cable AND pay-per-view to watch Matthews go to the gallows.

georgej on January 15, 2007 at 4:59 PM

DriftedOutToSea,

Lots of us do, believe it or not. And as far as not finding anything redeeming in any conservative living U.S. president, I supported for 2 of the last 3, though since Reagan is no longer living he doesn’t count. And of the 2 remaining democrat presidents still alive, I supported neither. So, there you have it.

May I be the first to call BULLSHIT on that tired old lie? That patently phony claim seems awfully popular among the leftist trollery the last couple of years… Nothing you’ve ever posted could support that claim, so why do you bother? You can’t possibly expect anyone here to buy that, can you?

Spiny Norman on January 15, 2007 at 5:05 PM

Matthews must be big to all those living in Europe (like DRIFTER).

Rick on January 15, 2007 at 5:18 PM

georgej on January 15, 2007 at 4:59 PM

I agree that that almost all MSM components are more interested in promoting the Propaganda and Agenda of the Left. Their “reporting” is skewed to support their own political postions and agenda rather than report the facts.

I believe that the biggest single problem that the United States has is the Mainstream Media (MSM) and it’s determination to mold public support to their agenda. This determination to control policy in the United States disregards the national interest, soldiers, citizens, and our welfare for their own benefit.

I do not believe much can be done about this state of affairs with the MSM beyond actively boycotting those who are most clearly diseminating propaganda for the Left (In my opinion that would include the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, and NBC)and their sponsors. We also can partcipate in sites such as this, make others aware of the MSM bias to the Left, and become more well informed on their methods and specific instances such as “Jamilgate”.

Any other ideas?

omegaram on January 15, 2007 at 5:18 PM

Drifter, of course I know you’re an American, living in Brittany. Sorry for not having been more clear in separating ‘Americans living abroad’ and ‘Europeans’.

I meant ‘water’ in the sense of ‘watered down’ or not strong.

Your presidential leanings are still an exception to the two groups. There always are, to strengthen the rule:

- Mr. Moynahan voted for Mr. Ford it turns out, and
- Mr. and Mrs. McGovern did too, in 1976.

Presidential deaths are very revealing.

Entelechy on January 15, 2007 at 5:35 PM

Hardball Matthews displaying his liberal ideology trumps intelligence. The American people and congress don’t have a say in regards to the Iran policy. Again, congress can refuse to fund whatever the president is doing. But the president has the say on foriegn policy via the constitution………

ritethinker on January 15, 2007 at 7:15 PM

Chris Matthews, what a piece of work! Just another democrap oxygen thief.

Zorro on January 15, 2007 at 7:22 PM

I meant ‘water’ in the sense of ‘watered down’ or not strong…
Entelechy on January 15, 2007 at 5:35 PM

He knew exactly what you meant. People like him, when confronted by an argument they are losing, resort to cheap shots. I notice that when he is beaten, he retreats. Never saying he is wrong, he just posts his crap, than runs. The irony, is that posters put up with him. You must know him personally, you seem convinced that he lives in Britain. If you don’t know him personally, don’t bet on it.

right2bright on January 15, 2007 at 7:28 PM

right2bright,

our Drifter doesn’t live in Britain; he lives in Brittany, a region in France. He stated in the beginning of his joining this site that he’s married to a French lady and has kids, and lives there.

I don’t know the gent personally but I do believe what people claim on this board and don’t question that further, unless they prove otherwise. I believed you when you stated your profession. I have no reason to believe otherwise.

So long as the trolls don’t insult others, I actually like having them around. Call me naive and/or crazy but it’s not much different than in life – one comes across all kinds and we deal with them.

I never aim to convert them and, obviously, their success with us is nil too. It w/b nice to be able to hold a discussion, without calling the other an idiot, swine, dumb or whatever…Maybe it’s futile and idealistic…and I have failed in my own quest, repeatedly – mea culpa maxima. Sometimes our tempers just snap. Some of us regret it and some are just simply snooty and go on.

I find most amusing that if we stick to our points, we are not objective and dumb – if they stick to theirs, they are enlightened, fair and most intelligent.

Entelechy on January 15, 2007 at 9:11 PM

Once Kucinich gets the Fairness Doctrine back in place (which he’s working on, Drudge link today) they’ll have to give fair view to the other side.

You know, the ones who think Bush is Hitler instead of Satan…

gekkobear on January 15, 2007 at 10:37 PM

Chris Matthews, what a piece of work! Just another democrap oxygen thief.

Zorro on January 15, 2007 at 7:22 PM

He’ll say anything to try to boost his ratings – no one with a brain wastes any time on his program. I’d rather watch Glenn Beck.

SpartRan on January 15, 2007 at 10:54 PM

“he’s married to a French lady and has kids”

Well at least SOMEBODY is having kids in Fwance besides muz … hey, wait a minute! Now it’s all coming together!

Tony737 on January 16, 2007 at 12:04 AM

THeDRiFTeR is living in France all right.
Just like Valdar Conehead.
What’s the name of that town in Brittany?
Remulak?

CyberCipher on January 16, 2007 at 12:11 AM

Wha??? No info on

Valerie Plame

????? The man has gone stark raving mas cuz he can’t beat that dead horse anymore!!!

Mellen on January 16, 2007 at 12:50 AM

So is this the unbiased journalistic integrity we hear that the MSM is all about?

Tim Burton on January 16, 2007 at 1:19 AM

This fool worked for Jimmy Carter: enough said.

Black Adam on January 16, 2007 at 4:18 AM

Chris Matthews doth protest too much, I believe.

Lawrence on January 16, 2007 at 9:31 AM

Half these posters aren’t what they say they are. Drifter is probably sitting in some barn in Ok. waiting for the ice to melt.

right2bright on January 15, 2007 at 4:31 PM

Watch it! Not all of us in OK are banjo picking inbreds!

As for dipweed Matthews, he’s just that, a dipweed. When the SHTF, I won’t waste my ammo on proctecting his sorry hide.

bubbadog89 on January 16, 2007 at 10:52 AM

Does anyone know that the deficit is at an all-time low? Has been even during this time of drunken-sailor spending. You measure the deficit against GDP. Example; 2 people owe 25 grand. One makes 50 thou a year the other 100 thou. Who has the greater deficit to overcome? That is how a deficit is really measured. As always the drive-by gets it wrong(intentional or incompetent). They plaster it all over the papers and scream it from the broadcast boothe that it is at record highs. In real dollars, in actual numbers yes, but as it pertains to the health of the economy it is at an all-time low. This is all that matters…….

ritethinker on January 16, 2007 at 12:00 PM

Wyrd, honora,

The Shadow? Literary allusion? You have raised partisan denial to a new level here…

Jaibones on January 16, 2007 at 1:27 PM

He stated in the beginning of his joining this site that he’s married to a French lady and has kids, and lives there.

I guess that makes him an American-Franco.

It also invalidates his’ “After 6 years of life under this commander and chief” argument, unless President Bush also the Commander in Chief of the French military and is also President of France. If that were true then we know where the troops for the Surge will be coming from.

BTW, It’s Commander in Chief, not Commander and Chief. That’s a common mistake, but since Drifter is interested in accuracy I felt that should be pointed out.

The Constitution of the United States gives the title to the President of the United States, who “shall be Commander-in-Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commander-in-Chief

RedinBlueCounty on January 16, 2007 at 3:32 PM

RedinBlueCountry, the Drifter is an American citizen, living in France, as he stated, repeatedly.

There are many American citizens living abroad, and they can vote and do, mostly for the Left.

However they vote, the U.S. President is still their CiC. I believe that’s what he was saying…

Entelechy on January 16, 2007 at 3:41 PM

Actually, the President is not their Command-in-Chief unless they are members of the military and the President little authority over any citizens traveling abroad. As long as they reside in another country, that countries government has the authority and control of that individual.

A perfect example of this is the requirement to extradite any American citizen that reside in another country. No American can be removed from another country to stand trial here without the permission of that citizen or the respective government.

The President can not order the Justice department to extract that citizen without following the laws and/or treaties of the respected government involved. If such a situation arose and a citizen was to stand trial here, the American courts would invalidate the arrest and detention of that citizen as it is contrary to federal law.

The President, and the American government, has very little authority over citizens living abroad, and those citizens can, if they wish, ignore any and all authority of the US with little or no recourse by this government.

Why do you think so many draft dodgers fled to Canada during the Vietnam War? It’s because they knew that there was little America could do to enforce it’s authority on those people.

RedinBlueCounty on January 16, 2007 at 4:10 PM

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