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In hindsight, Sunni jihadis not sure killing Shiites was such a good idea; Update: Mahdi Army lowers its profile

posted at 5:36 pm on January 13, 2007 by Allahpundit
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They were hugely outnumbered, but they made a deal with the devil and now the bill’s come due.

“Its not a good time to be a Sunni in Baghdad,” Abu Omar told me in a low voice…

He was more despondent than angry. “We Sunni are to blame,” he said. “In my area some ignorant al-Qaida guys have been kidnapping poor Shia farmers, killing them and throwing their bodies in the river. I told them: ‘This is not jihad. You can’t kill all the Shia! This is wrong! The Shia militias are like rabid dogs - why provoke them?’ ”

Then he said: “I am trying to talk to the Americans. I want to give them assurances that no one will attack them in our area if they stop the Shia militias from coming.”

This man who had spent the last three years fighting the Americans was now willing to talk to them, not because he wanted to make peace but because he saw the Americans as the lesser of two evils. He was wrestling with the same dilemma as many Sunni insurgent leaders, beginning to doubt the wisdom of their alliance with al-Qaida extremists.

That conversation happened in October; Abu Omar has long since disappeared, according to the author, but the second-guessing remains. A new local jihadi commander told him that U.S. troops are now allowed to pass through Sunni territory unharmed unless they have Iraqi army (i.e., Shiite) troops with them. “The jihad now is against the Shia, not the Americans,” he says.

Well worth your time to read all of it, as it has lots of other details about the fighting, including the business of jihad:

These days Rami gets most of his supplies from the new American-equipped Iraqi army. “We buy ammunition from officers in charge of warehouses, a small box of AK-47 bullets is $450 (£230). If the guy sells a thousand boxes he can become rich and leave the country…

According to Rami and other commanders, funding for the insurgents comes from three sources. Each family in the street pays a levy, around $8, to the local group. “And when they go through lots of ammunition because of clashes,” Rami said, “they pay an extra $5.” Then there are donations from rich Sunni businessmen, financiers and wealthier insurgent groups. A third source of funding was “ghaniama”, loot which is rapidly becoming the main fuel of the sectarian war…

“It has become a business, they give you money to kill Shia, we take their houses and sell their cars,” said Rami. “The Shia are doing the same.

This is the second time in two days we’ve had a report of one side telling its men not to fire on the Americans. Sadr has allegedly told his people the same thing. Why? Because he knows there’s a strong possibility we’ll be gone soon and he’ll be off scot free — made stronger today by the revelation that Maliki has appointed a mystery general to lead the Iraqi campaign in Baghdad and rumblings from the Pentagon that the U.S. might not engage the death squads in Sadr City.

Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Maliki has filled the top military job in Baghdad with a virtually unknown officer chosen over the objections of U.S. and Iraqi military commanders, officials from both governments said…

As the Iraqi commander for the capital, Qanbar would play a central role in that campaign, and any ties he might have to sectarian groups could undermine the new U.S. effort…

The appointment of Qanbar comes as the U.S. military is debating whether to attack Sadr City. As the Iraqi commander, Qanbar could have advance knowledge of U.S. operations.

He’s from the southern part of the country so he’s almost certain a Shiite. Like I said a few weeks ago, anyone who thinks Maliki is incompetent and timid is kidding himself. He knows what he’s doing: he’s consolidating Shiite power while paying lip service to Bush’s plans. Qanbar, his new general, is probably just the latest move on that front. Supposedly they’re going to add another layer of command, which would include Petraeus, between Maliki and Qanbar to make sure no unusual orders pass between them. Like say, “Liquidate the Sunnis in west Baghdad.”

More good news:

Within the Pentagon, not everyone agrees that attacking Sadr City is advisable…

An influential plan for Baghdad security drawn up by retired Army Gen. Jack Keane and military analyst Frederick Kagan strongly advised against moving into Sadr City. The plan, which was highly influential within the White House and is considered to mirror Petraeus’ thinking, argued that an attack on Sadr City would unite now-splintered Shiite factions against U.S. forces.

“We have an opportunity now to keep the Shiite parties separate and to avoid a full-scale military conflict with them,” Kagan said. “If we go into Sadr City, that will not be the case. We will find ourselves in a full-scale, very bloody operation, which probably will look something like Fallouja.”

Petraeus apparently isn’t keen on the idea either.

We end a grim post on a grim note — with this WaPo report of a U.S. unit in danger and on a wild goose chase in Baghdad, with little help from the underequipped Iraqi army. “I want to go back and play my PlayStation.”

Update: Ace wants to know why, given their deep and abiding concern for the lives of American soldiers, the left isn’t demanding that we lose as quickly as humanly possible.

[P]lease explain what possible benefit the US gets out of following the mainline, compromise Democratic position and killing more US soldiers in a doomed cause.

It’s rather obvious what good comes from a US victory, should such a thing be possible.

But what possible good does it do to waste more lives in a war you’ve already decided to abandon?

Greenwald and the rest of the leftwing CyOps brigade don’t favor the slow-motion surrender, but they seem to be willing to acquiesce in additional unnecessary deaths so long as it gets them the prize, the repudiation of Bush and the repudiation of further uses of American military force.

Update: Smart.

Mahdi Army militia members have stopped wearing their black uniforms, hidden their weapons and abandoned their checkpoints in an apparent effort to lower their profile in Baghdad in advance of the arrival of U.S. reinforcements.

“We have explicit directions to keep a low profile . . . not to confront, not to be dragged into a fight and to calm things down,” said one official who received the orders from the anti-American Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr…

The decision by al-Sadr to lower his force’s profile in Baghdad will likely cut violence in the city and allow American forces to show quick results from their beefed up presence. But it is also unlikely in the long term to change the balance of power here. Mahdi Army militiamen say that while they remain undercover now, they are simply waiting for the security plan to end.

They’ve moved their heavy weaponry out of Sadr City too, allegedly.

Update: According to the AP, Qanbar was Maliki’s second choice to lead the army in Baghdad. His first choice was torpedoed by the U.S.


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Sorry, my bad.

Buck Turgidson on January 13, 2007 at 5:47 PM

You mean provoking a group which outnumbers you two to one with wanton slaughter is a bad idea? That sounds like infidel talk to me…

Allah akbar!

Verbal Abuse on January 13, 2007 at 5:59 PM

I’d rather go praying with a Sunni then driving with a Kennedy…

Ringmaster on January 13, 2007 at 6:24 PM

“Oh sorry!,I thought you was somebody else!”

EnochCain on January 13, 2007 at 6:34 PM

“I want to go back and play my PlayStation.”

I want you too, I’ve had enough of the weak country club Republicans.

Capitalist Infidel on January 13, 2007 at 6:37 PM

“The Prince” by Machiavelli. This little book holds so many answers to war. It’s brutal though, and our media probably couldn’t handle the jihadi carnage.

Troy Rasmussen on January 13, 2007 at 6:59 PM

Looking at the political situation in America, I would be consolidating my power, too. The Shia have been oppressed for years, so it is understandable they trust noone but themselves for protection. The Sunni have second thoughts because the Shia are now in a position to defend themselves. I have little sympathy for the Sunni Arabs at this point. Much like the Palis, they have blown it.

Stormy70 on January 13, 2007 at 7:15 PM

Mahdi Army militia members have stopped wearing their black uniforms, hidden their weapons and abandoned their checkpoints in an apparent effort to lower their profile in Baghdad in advance of the arrival of U.S. reinforcements.

Maybe the Kurds will still have a good idea who is who.
Kurdish brigade trains to deploy in Baghdad

News2Use on January 13, 2007 at 8:09 PM

Seems to me the Iraqi army could draw them out, a large force camped outside of town perhaps, so we could airbomb the hell out of them.

Chuck on January 13, 2007 at 9:16 PM

Maliki needs to have his f$$# head sawed off, hes prick too.. who must go just like the rotten scum Al Sadr.

retired on January 13, 2007 at 10:16 PM

A problem for the Mahdi Army melting into the background is that they have maintained their hold by being visible, looking like they were in charge, etc. If a bunch of US and IA troops swoop in and stay for awhile - then folks living in those areas might start rethinking things a bit…it is a terrible balancing act for them. Our problem is staying long enough and clearing out their infrastructure and support set up. I’d lay small odds in our favor - if only becuase Iran might bark for action too soon.
Hey, who knows, maybe I’ll get to go over their this or next year and find out onh my own…guess I’d see how flippin’ smart my own predictions were, urk.

major john on January 13, 2007 at 10:45 PM

I suspect Sadr sees his own obituary in the local paper with Bush’s back against the wall.

They should still kill him.

drjohn on January 14, 2007 at 12:38 AM

Mookie doesn’t want round 2. He knows he got his ass kicked last time. Mahdi “army”? pppffftt bitches.

Tony737 on January 14, 2007 at 12:52 AM

In hindsight, Sunni jihadis not sure killing Shiites was such a good idea

When has anything done in the name of islam been a good idea?

Guardian on January 14, 2007 at 1:05 AM

Sounds like many of the peace treaties Muslims made with the Crusading Christians. When it was better to make peace with the Crusaders to increase the fighting with the other Islamic sect, there was peace made.

Personally, I’d just like to see us kick everyone’s arse.

Tim Burton on January 14, 2007 at 1:07 AM

I see a great opportunity for the U.S. to widen the Sunni-Shia conflict to the benefit of everyone in the West. Sunni, Shia, they still hold to Surah 9:29.

PRCalDude on January 14, 2007 at 1:46 AM

Sunni, Shiite or whatever. They are still all muslims who would like to see all non-muslims converted, enslaved or dead. Wake up everyone!! It’s Islam that is the real problem.

docdave on January 14, 2007 at 7:51 PM

“The Prince” by Machiavelli. This little book holds so many answers to war. It’s brutal though, and our media probably couldn’t handle the jihadi carnage.

Troy Rasmussen on January 13, 2007 at 6:59 PM

Not to mention all of the regular people (citizen’s) who would have a fit about the idea of many of their number (children and other relatives) being necessary expenditures in pursuit of a higher goal. This in addition to the necessary duplicity employed to attain support of the means used to attain the goal.

Mookie doesn’t want round 2. He knows he got his ass kicked last time. Mahdi “army”? pppffftt bitches.

Tony737 on January 14, 2007 at 12:52 AM

Mookie doesn’t care - after all, when we should have iced him we were told to let him go by - well, let’s just say that as with Osama, it came from the highest levels.

And of course, Mookie made Al-Maliki - so we now have to correct a lot of our own boo-boos. Boo-boos that are responsible for unnecessary deaths both of ours and theirs.

Deaths that could have been avoided if we had simply killed this scum when we should have.

Maliki needs to have his f$$# head sawed off, hes prick too.. who must go just like the rotten scum Al Sadr.

retired on January 13, 2007 at 10:16 PM

No argument here - but remember that Al-Sadr made Al-Maliki (after we saved Al-Sadr and set him loose upon the world after he had killed many of our soldiers).

In the meantime, keep in mind that business is good and all that will be done will be enough to divert the mass while appearing to “solve” the problem - while in reality what will be done would make most people’s head spin.

Sounds like many of the peace treaties Muslims made with the Crusading Christians. When it was better to make peace with the Crusaders to increase the fighting with the other Islamic sect, there was peace made.

Personally, I’d just like to see us kick everyone’s arse.

Tim Burton on January 14, 2007 at 1:07 AM

Full agreement - Pax Americana!

Emmett J. on January 14, 2007 at 7:52 PM


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