Comments on: Must-read of the day: INDC in Fallujah

By: Entelechy

Entelechy — Thu, 11 Jan 2007 05:48:11 +0000

…of course “is devastating and heartbreaking” :(

By: Entelechy

Entelechy — Thu, 11 Jan 2007 05:46:50 +0000

“I think the Americans are more for Iraq than the Iraqis themselves.”

He then moved on to his second point.

Yusef: “I want to ask you for something: a one month vacation in the United States to get away from all of this. And if they give me refugee status, I’m marrying an American woman and not coming back.”

He laughed.

The emphasized line is devastating and hearbreaking.

The last line is heartwarming. Made me smile for his hope.

By: omegaram

omegaram — Thu, 11 Jan 2007 04:10:49 +0000

Here is one of the main problems in Iraq, in the expectations or hopes of the United States, and put so well in the concept of ““I think the Americans are more for Iraq than the Iraqis themselves.”

Perhaps the Iraqis identify more with sectarian clans than with a United Iraq. Until the majority of Iraqis gain that sense of nationalism, of care for their nation instead of their clan or relgious sect, the dream of a united Iraq will probably be a dream more cherished by Americans who want to go home than Iraqis who will call that dream their country.

Somehow I cannot see the Left supporting any effort to increase nationalism, but that is exactly what Iraq needs – along with dealing with foreign insurgents, especially from Iran.

By: Purple Avenger

Purple Avenger — Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:22:04 +0000

What’s wrong with this mind wiped moron? Doesn’t he know we’re just there to steal the oil?

By: Tantor

Tantor — Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:17:30 +0000

What irony that our former enemy in Fallujah supports the American presence in Iraq more than Ted Kennedy. Maybe he knows more than Teddy.

By: tickleddragon

tickleddragon — Wed, 10 Jan 2007 21:58:51 +0000

Agrippa2k – wow..thanks for that link. That’s incredible.
It’s like Adult Disneyland of Dubai..lol.

So beautiful, yet no way in Hell I’d venture into that area anytime soon, as a White, Christian female.

Wish I could though.

By: Agrippa2k

Agrippa2k — Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:45:09 +0000

Still trying to figure out the link thing. I saw a History Channel special on the Palm Resort in UAE. Las Vegas has nothing on these guys.

http://www.dubaipropertyauction.com/palmsales/video/palmmain/video.htm

By: Agrippa2k

Agrippa2k — Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:43:17 +0000

Michael Moore summarized the left’s bigoted position on all of this a few weeks ago, a slightly modified position from the one they have always had. “They are not worth it”.

I saw a interview on the BBC with Rory Stewart that gives a bleak outlook. His personal experiences are disturbing (about 11:30 minutes in).

Is it Islam? Is it the Iraqis? There are parallels in history. Rwanda and Somalia support the left’s conclusion about “barbarians”. Consider Saddam’s war with Iran and the 250,000 “martyrs” sent out, unarmed, to overrun the Iraqis.

The left’s conclusion is that we can not “defeat” this enemy – we can only “kill” him. In contrast, I am reminded of words from Patton (I think) “Kick the enemy’s ass and his heart and mind will follow”.

According to Cindy Sheehan WE have killed 700,000 Iraqis. This lie reveals the left’s actual “hope” that we kill large numbers to support their overall view.

The left is afraid of or abhors killing the enemy. The fear is that the enemy is too stupid to stop. So stupid that you would have to kill millions or all of them.

This attitude reveals a fundamental position that “some people” are stupid, un-evolved, barbaric, incorrigible. The left, despite rhetoric, do not believe that “all men are created equal”.

To be fair, Muslims have not done much to counter this belief in recent times or through history. On the other hand take a look at .

Proof there are Muslims with hopes and dreams – until the others blow them up. Do we choose to fight for the former? No, we must fight with them. But not yet.

By: Mallard T. Drake

Mallard T. Drake — Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:11:13 +0000

Now that I know the Americans, I have a different impression. Now I deal honestly with them and feel they are really working for the benefit of my side.”

That is why we have to stay there and finish the job. If we leave now, nothing has changed. The more the Iraqis get to know Americans and realize our being there is also for their benefit, the more they will side with us and not the jihadists.

Here is the irony. The libs and Donks think that if we “just talk” with the enemy, we can find a non-miltaristic solution. The ones we need to talk with are the regular Iraqis, such as “Yusef,” to let them see we are not “the great Satan” after all and win them to our side. The jihadists, to whom we are supposed to reach out, will never listen to us. They are the ones that must be defeated militarily.

By: Ace of Spades HQ

Ace of Spades HQ — Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:07:08 +0000

INDC INFallujuah Journal…

I’ve been slow consumed by jealousy and feelings of inadequacy in acknowleging Bill From INDC’s reporting from Iraq. Allah, who’s more comfortable with his inadequacy — hell, it’s practically a point of pride with him — is a lot better……

By: Old War Dogs

Old War Dogs — Wed, 10 Jan 2007 19:57:24 +0000

Reading a Warzone: Bloggers in Iraq…

Must-read of the day: INDC in FallujahAllahpundit How do you reclaim a country that’s so dangerous, firefighters are afraid to emerge from their station? Bill considers that question in his new piece for the Examiner. The can’t-miss, though, is the…

By: PinkyBigglesworth

PinkyBigglesworth — Wed, 10 Jan 2007 19:45:20 +0000

The quote of the war…..

But when other parties showed up – especially the radicals and the Iranian militias, both who are not Iraqis – now I prefer the Americans.

I am sure the MSM will publish this on the cover of the NYT in big, bold letters, along with some of the good that has actually been accomplished……….(crickets chirping)

And the Democrats will apologize for politicizing the war from the begining and giving aid and comfort to the enemies by their actions and statements………….. (more crickets chirping)

By: Jones Zemkophill

Jones Zemkophill — Wed, 10 Jan 2007 19:33:51 +0000

It’s incredibly sad that the media is causing so much harm to these people.

If they would take some time out of their anti-american/anti-bush madness, maybe someone could let them know that “NO, Americans are not there to take your oil, or your first born.”

Damnit, just having Iraqi Oil on the market stabilizes the commoditity. Sell it to whoever you want, where-ever Whatever…

WE DON’T CARE.

But for the love of god, all we want to do is help people be free.

By: Bill's Bites

Bill's Bites — Wed, 10 Jan 2007 19:33:00 +0000

Must-read of the day: INDC in Fallujah…

By: GT

GT — Wed, 10 Jan 2007 19:27:45 +0000

You won’t be reading any of that in the NYT. Olbermann would have to be dragged screaming and kicking to report it.