Moonbats rally to spell “IMPEACH!” in San Francisco beach
posted at 3:13 am on January 9, 2007 by Ian
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Over 1,000 moonbats assembled at Ocean Beach in San Francisco to spell out “IMPEACH!” this weekend. Just imagine what they could do with their hate if it was put towards something useful.

(Credit: John Montgomery, The Beach Impeach Project)
Zombie was there and caught protesters wearing tin foil hats. No joke:
Zombie has a photo essay with details of the event at his site.
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Freak high tide would have been sweet :)
The moonbats favorite ‘elected’ official is at it again.
Chavez
Lord Nazh on January 9, 2007 at 3:18 AM
I was in San Francisco (acutally, Walnut Creek/Alamo/Danville) this past weekend and this is the first I heard of it. If it made the local SF news, I must have missed it.
As for “harnessing” their energy for something “useful,” I refer you to the Monty Python Twit Olympics sketch.
georgej on January 9, 2007 at 3:29 AM
Impeach Pelosi??? sounds good to me!!!!
Romeo13 on January 9, 2007 at 3:42 AM
Ian, Zombie is a girl….just a little fyi
Capitalist Infidel on January 9, 2007 at 3:54 AM
Seriously… the extreme left is really just sickening, and gets worse by the day. Don’t these people have graduate school classes or backbacking trips to Europe to get to?
RightWinged on January 9, 2007 at 4:22 AM
Bwahahaha! Wow, really sticking it to the Man there, moonbats! Somehow I must have missed the “Line up a bunch a freakin’ idiots on a beach to impeach the President” provision in the Constitution. (Must be in that “living Constitution” that they keep making up, I guess.) What’s next, the “Hold your breath until you turn blue” protest? Because I am totally in favor of that. For them, I mean.
Surprisingly enough, at least they did manage to spell it correctly.
ReubenJCogburn on January 9, 2007 at 4:23 AM
Actually, CI, I don’t think Zombie has clarified his or her gender either way. Some pundits have branded her a she,but I think the question remains unsettled (and I would like to help keep him/her as anonymous as possible.)
That said, nothing is stopping us from picturing Zombie as a dead ringer for Linnea Quigley in The Return of the Living Dead.
see-dubya on January 9, 2007 at 4:33 AM
Best Zombie caption:
billy on January 9, 2007 at 4:33 AM
I’m glad to see they did this during the weekend. After all, it would’ve been a shame if this event had cut into the time these people need to spend on their important careers.
What’s that? Oh, yeah. My bad.
Sean M. on January 9, 2007 at 4:57 AM
I like the part about The Passing of the Foil. Truly moving.
Quisp on January 9, 2007 at 6:54 AM
Hmmm….I wonder what font they used.
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GT on January 9, 2007 at 7:00 AM
We can at least marvel at their correct spelling. That’s quite a feat for people with no functioning brain cells left.
Halley on January 9, 2007 at 7:02 AM
Life’s a beach! The fringe kooks will do anything to lay down in the dirt and nuzzel a butt crack!
sonnyspats1 on January 9, 2007 at 7:04 AM
Where do they find these crazies huh? Seems like there’s more and more of them everyday.
THeDRiFTeR on January 9, 2007 at 7:09 AM
You do realize that there is absolutely no relationship between approval ratings and impeachment, don’t you THeDRiFTeR? You noticed that the people responsible for getting 1000 people to spell out “IMPEACH” in the sand really want Bush and Cheney to “RESIGN” and make Nancy Pelosi president, didn’t you?
Heh. Nancy Pelosi.
Pablo on January 9, 2007 at 7:25 AM
Where’s a tsunami when you need one?
tymiha on January 9, 2007 at 7:28 AM
That’s gotta be Dingbats.
Pablo on January 9, 2007 at 7:33 AM
LMAO!
IrishEi on January 9, 2007 at 7:40 AM
It’s a good thing it was cold and they didn’t get nekkid to do this. Giant inflated scrotum man might have showed up.
Ellen on January 9, 2007 at 8:08 AM
If they ain’t naked, I ain’t interested.
Nice
token on January 9, 2007 at 8:10 AM
Can we be certain that this particular font was available for use on beaches when the photo was claimed to have been taken?
James on January 9, 2007 at 8:21 AM
They were naked,someone photoshopped in the clothes. But the tinfoil hats were real.
bbz123 on January 9, 2007 at 8:35 AM
This is sooooo typical of these crazies. They think Bush went into Iraq for his Big Oil buddies, and yet they line the pockets of those buddies by using a gas guzzling helicopter to take those pictures.
Dee de deeeeee.
csdeven on January 9, 2007 at 8:41 AM
Why do the moonbats always go for these symbolic group-masturbation exercises? Do they sincerely believe they are doing some good? Or is it that they need the group reinforcement to reassure themselves of their beliefs?
Squid Vicious on January 9, 2007 at 8:45 AM
Wow … See how easy these nuts are manipulated? A herd of cattle if I ever saw one.
darwin on January 9, 2007 at 8:53 AM
“Why do the moonbats always go for these symbolic group-masturbation exercises? ”
that would explain the “ripple” effect.
What has 8 arms, and stabs its girlfriend ?
sorry Squid, old joke.
Sasnak on January 9, 2007 at 8:53 AM
Squid Vicious you just about beat me to it. The intellectual level of the things these morons do is usually on a par with what, 6th graders, junior high school kids?
Jeff on January 9, 2007 at 8:57 AM
Wow - Like totally COOL - lol - If these wack jobs were REALLY serious they would have pulled out an old Jerry Rubin trick from the 60’s and levitated the Pacific Ocean!
iam7545 on January 9, 2007 at 9:07 AM
Do any of these people have a job?
GT on January 9, 2007 at 9:15 AM
Where’s a tsunami when you need one?
tymiha on January 9, 2007 at 7:28 AM
Darn! Too late.
Can the rest of the country vote to install sharia law for San Fransisco?
TugboatPhil on January 9, 2007 at 9:17 AM
Pelosi aka Nurse Ratched is pleased with her patients…
“If you continue to behave, next month you can go to the zoo” she said.
flagwaver on January 9, 2007 at 9:18 AM
Those people really the “teh” in “teh crazy.”
I appreciate all the anti-Isreal stickers. One day they may get their wish, and have a world living under Sharia.
natesnake on January 9, 2007 at 9:28 AM
W E R E N O T P E A C H
Hey, come on, it is San Francisco after all.
fogw on January 9, 2007 at 9:31 AM
They really don’t get it, do they? They are so insulated from normal society that they don’t realize that we see them as completely nuts. I would almost think that the one handing out the tin foil was a VRWC operative, but in reality, he is really one of them who probably never heard the term ‘tin foil hat wearer’. These people don’t listen to opposing viewpoints, because it causes that pain in the frontal lobe known as cognitive dissonance. That is why they hate Fox News so much.
BohicaTwentyTwo on January 9, 2007 at 9:33 AM
:O
Rich on January 9, 2007 at 9:38 AM
I think it’s a faux photo….
flagwaver on January 9, 2007 at 9:51 AM
REAL QUESTION FOR AN INTREPID COMMENTER:
WHAT IS THE JOKE ABOUT THE TIN-FOIL HATS? I don’t get it. I was at KOS and I actually heard a moonbat say that “(his) tin foil hat was tingling”.
SOMEBODY TELL ME–my copy of “Moonbats for Dummies” is missing that chapter.
THANKS Y’all!
seejanemom on January 9, 2007 at 9:55 AM
it’s all miniatures
there’s no footprints in the sand
and the shadows are inconsistent
(just kidding, it’s the moonbat in me..)
flagwaver on January 9, 2007 at 10:00 AM
The tin foil hats reflect evil thoughts from Karl Rove.
fogw on January 9, 2007 at 10:01 AM
I’m sure they would take it as a compliment that you see them as nuts. Are you so insulated from normal society that you don’t realize most normal Americans would regard many of the posters here as completely nuts? Sure, those people are on the fringe, but probably less fringe than the carpet-bomb Iraq/nuke Mecca/kill ‘em or convert ‘em/deport the traitious liberals crowd that lurks around here.
JaHerer22 on January 9, 2007 at 10:03 AM
seejanemom - i believe the purpose of the tin foil hats are for people who believe that signals from aliens cannot penetrate your brain if you cover your head with tin foil.
Somehow, aluminum foil blocks the signals… haha
Recall the Mel Gibson movie “Signs” when his family was waiting for the alien invasion and they were wearing tin foil hats.
flagwaver on January 9, 2007 at 10:03 AM
There, that’s fixed. Move on now Ja.
fogw on January 9, 2007 at 10:10 AM
Zombie won’t admit as to what he or she is. But Zombie is AWESOME.
Why don’t the dimocraps and libz just admit that the only reason they want to impeach Bush is for Revenge for Cliton?
Yea, Tinfoil will do that… ;-)
Mazztek on January 9, 2007 at 10:11 AM
Of course not. We just keep you guys around for entertainment, not because we think you’re sane.
Pablo on January 9, 2007 at 10:25 AM
Teutonic Yes Man,
If you had spent any time on this board, you would realize that the “Nuke Mecca” crowd is not tolerated here. Conservatives have ostracized the right fringe (people like the looney tune Fred Phelps cult). On the other hand, the liberals have embraced their lunatic fringe (Moore, Shehan, Dean).
BohicaTwentyTwo on January 9, 2007 at 10:31 AM
seejanemom, a tinfoil hat will protect you from the mind control rays that PNAC/The Elders of Zion/Illuminati/Bu$hco use to subjugate all the sheeple. Moonbats are well aware of this vast mind control conspiracy and of this important protective measure.
More here.
Pablo on January 9, 2007 at 10:33 AM
I’m calling Bull-Sh@tt. Link one comment from HotAir where that statement was acceptable.
And when it comes to “deport the traitious liberals”, I’d rather incarcerate than deport. If you don’t love it, leave it. And if you undermine American security, I’m more than happy to throw your arse into the clink.
natesnake on January 9, 2007 at 10:33 AM
seejanemom - forgot to include, truth is… the tin foil is effective, and does indeed block the alien signals.. (I’m not sure but it might also keep them safe from propaganda subliminal messages from the Bush administration)
Either way, the moonbats believe they work and thats all that matters.
Request - any moonbats who can confirm this?
flagwaver on January 9, 2007 at 10:33 AM
The real story here is that they couldn’t muster enough unemployed Berkeley losers to finish the image:
IMPEACH AHMEDINEJAD
Damned economy…
Jaibones on January 9, 2007 at 10:36 AM
“Sure, those people are on the fringe, but probably less fringe than the carpet-bomb Iraq/nuke Mecca/kill ‘em or convert ‘em/deport the traitious liberals crowd that lurks around here.”
What an odd statement. Islams leaders have said quite publically that it’s the ultimate goal of islam to convert the world, and kill those that resist. How in the world do you equate what’s happening in the world today with anyone who posts here and calls for defense of our homeland and an offense to rid the world of the heinous cult perpetuating what you claim we call for?
How do you equate an invasion of our country by millions who are sucking the well dry to people who post here begging for our government to do something … anything to stop the daily flow?
And yes, there are many “liberals” who have gone above and beyond in aiding and comforting the enemy, as well as revealing national security classified info.
You bub, are on the fringe, the rest of us are slowly waking up to the treachery of your kind.
darwin on January 9, 2007 at 10:38 AM
“people like the looney tune Fred Phelps cult”
From what I understand Phelps is a democrat. His actions would be totally embraced by the left except for the fact he’s “religious”. If it weren’t for that, they’d love ‘em.
darwin on January 9, 2007 at 10:40 AM
Oh, and as far as seeing the leftists as being on the side of the terrorists, we aren’t the only people who feel that way. They TERRORISTS THEMSELVES feel that way too.
BohicaTwentyTwo on January 9, 2007 at 10:49 AM
This is what happens when too many people who have had too many hits of LSD all get together; worshipping helicopter gods, wearing foil hats, and sitting in the sand to spell IMPEACH! And the notion of Bush & Cheny resigning to make Pelosi and Obama the new POTUS and VP? Indeed a new kind of Shock and Awe, but maybe not like they’re thinking!
DR Good on January 9, 2007 at 10:57 AM
And this is proof of how out of touch with reality you are JaHerer.
Gregor on January 9, 2007 at 11:24 AM
You know, unless I missed it, I haven’t yet seen 1000 people on a South Carolina beach spelling out “Nuke Mecca” and anything similar.
BohicaTwentyTwo on January 9, 2007 at 11:36 AM
Of course, I HAVE seen people in California holding signs that say, “Support Resistance in Iraq” and “Support Our Mutineers! Free Hasan Akbar.” Thanks Zombie.
BohicaTwentyTwo on January 9, 2007 at 11:40 AM
I’m trying to get a crowd up for a beach spell-out on Coney Island this coming Shrove Tuesday to spell out:
“CARPET BOMB IRAQ / NUKE MECCA /KILL ‘EM OR CONVERT ‘EM / DEPORT THE TRAITOROUS LIBERALS”
I figure I’ll need 67 very flexible folks, and 3 stiffs, and 2 kids.
profitsbeard on January 9, 2007 at 11:46 AM
BohicaTwentyTwo-
Our posts crossed, but not our swords.
See you at Coney! (I’ll spring for the kosher franks*.)
___________________________________________________________
*Co-incidentally the name that medieval Muslims called the Crusaders, in general: “Franks”.
profitsbeard on January 9, 2007 at 11:49 AM
How to short-circuit the impeachment moonbats? Let VP Cheney retire (keep his # on speed-dial) and make Condi #2.
Impeach away :-)
DuffBeer on January 9, 2007 at 11:57 AM
Too funny! I always wondered where all the liberal sheep gathered on the weekends in San Francisco.
Baaaaaa!!!
Planet Boulder on January 9, 2007 at 12:02 PM
I’ll bet the local Starbucks really took it on the chin that day. All their customers were at the beach.
Labamigo on January 9, 2007 at 12:31 PM
How true, Labamigo.
And it doesn’t look like anyone carpooled either.
Dan866 on January 9, 2007 at 12:39 PM
QFT
Well said darwin
Sure, those people are on the fringe, but probably less fringe than the carpet-bomb Iraq/nuke Mecca/kill ‘em or convert ‘em/deport the traitious liberals crowd that lurks around here.”
What an odd statement. Islams leaders have said quite publically that it’s the ultimate goal of islam to convert the world, and kill those that resist. How in the world do you equate what’s happening in the world today with anyone who posts here and calls for defense of our homeland and an offense to rid the world of the heinous cult perpetuating what you claim we call for?
How do you equate an invasion of our country by millions who are sucking the well dry to people who post here begging for our government to do something … anything to stop the daily flow?
And yes, there are many “liberals” who have gone above and beyond in aiding and comforting the enemy, as well as revealing national security classified info.
You bub, are on the fringe, the rest of us are slowly waking up to the treachery of your kind.
darwin on January 9, 2007 at 10:38 AM
MarkB on January 9, 2007 at 12:52 PM
From the Zombie article:
” Speaker of the House Pelosi becomes President. … Imagine what a masterstroke it would be — suddenly a woman is the American President, the most powerful person in the world! And if Pelosi named Barack Obama as vice-president… what a change in the face America shows to the world! Shock and awe would take on a whole new meaning. The international community would again shower America with the same empathy, support, and goodwill that were showered upon us after 9/11. “~Brad Newsham,the mastermind behind Beach Impeach~
Uh…didn’t we get all the “empathy, support, and goodwill” showered upon us after 9/11 because 9/11 was a NATIONAL DISASTER!???
Catseye on January 9, 2007 at 12:53 PM
wana see something a bit more crazy?
I knew you did
One Angry Christian on January 9, 2007 at 12:59 PM
Good for them. Let’s all put on our “jammies” and spell out Jamil.
Remember him? The source of our collective shame? (sarc)
Buck Turgidson on January 9, 2007 at 1:08 PM
Can’t… resist… Photoshopping… this!
Somebody please stop me!
Dave Shay on January 9, 2007 at 1:11 PM
I’d much rather be on the fringe than stuck in the middle of the hoarde of ignorance many Americans seems content to dwell in. I don’t really see the point of impeaching Bush though, seems like a waste of time and energy that I’d much rather see devoted to something worthwhile; he’ll be gone for good soon and history can judge his war and his policies.
Wow, what a textbook example of framing your argument in an attempt to distort reality. Let’s use batsh*t crazy bigot Fred Phelps to represent the fringe right and former Governor and current DNC chair Howard Dean to represent the fringe left and then say conservatives ostracize the fringe and liberals embrace it. If you embrace Dean you’re a true-blue liberal; if you embrace Phelps you’re a sick, deluded, sorry excuse for a human being.
Here a few quotes for you. I’m at work so I can’t look all day, but these took about 4 minutes on the front page and archives to find.
JaHerer22 on January 9, 2007 at 1:19 PM
Have you visited DU?? You think those comments you quoted are bad?? Sure, sometimes people here at HA can get a little excited about topics, but for the most part, it doesn’t even come close to some of the off-the-wall stuff being posted at DU. Also, AP and the rest of the HA gang tend to do a very good job of guarding against any crazies that choose to comment here (every so often, something gets by - as expected).
Rick on January 9, 2007 at 1:34 PM
Well said. I would have said liberals worship Howard Dean, but embrace is in the ball park.
fogw on January 9, 2007 at 1:43 PM
JaHerer, I didn’t vote to make Cindy Shehan your queen. Heck, I didn’t even vote to make Pelosi Speaker of the House(her constituents being featured prominently in the photos linked above). Take a good hard look at those photos, that is the BASE of the Democratic Party.
profitsbeard, since I do not believe in nuking Mecca, I will only support your message if I can be part of a ‘/’
Meanwhile in South Carolina, Thousands of people are expected at Williams-Brice Stadium in Columbia on Saturday for what officials say will be the largest single deployment of South Carolina’s National Guard since World War Two.
BohicaTwentyTwo on January 9, 2007 at 1:55 PM
What? you mean like going down to Gulf Port to help people still recovering from Katrina?
Perhaps donating their time to a retirement home to aid with elder care?
Or what about organizing more effective neighborhood watches so that fewer murders happen in San-Fran.
OR they could waste their time in a fruitless past time aling the lines of trying to hold back the tide with a 5 Gal. Bucket.
Sigh.
Jones Zemkophill on January 9, 2007 at 2:38 PM
JaHerer22 wrote: “I’d much rather be on the fringe than stuck in the middle of the hoarde of ignorance.”
You’ve achieved your goal then. BTW, it is spelled hoard, not hoarde.
Normally, I am very tolerant of dissent and dissenters. In the past, I could have at one time proudly (if ignorantly) said that “I are one,” on a whole number of issues.
I am no longer in that camp. I view people like you as lemmings pursuing a suicidal policy that includes appeasement and emboldening our enemies. I view the actions of people like you and those in the picture as literally endangering the lives of me and my family.
In the past 3 decades, people like you have stupidly pursued policies that have been designed to weaken our country, erode our national security, and undermine our values.
Because of 9/11/01, I have become extremely intolerant of people like you, because during a time of war, your version of “dissent” is designed to sabotage our efforts to prevail. And I will not tolerate that.
I don’t care if you hate George W. Bush or not. What I despise is that in your zeal to destroy the Bush presidency, your kind are willing to aid and abet the very enemies we are fighting.
I consider the worst form of treason to be the undermining of a country’s war effort for POLITICAL GAIN. The media, the “liberals” and the leadership of the Democratic Party have been willing accomplices of the people we are fighting in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Somalia, just to regain political power.
In every war that America has fought, there have been those who opposed it. From the very Revolution, there were dissenters such as John Dickinson (see Footnote 1) who resigned from Congress rather than sign the Declaration of Independence because he opposed revolution. There have always been what we call conscientious objectors. Nevertheless, some of these conscientious objectors still served their country in spite of their objection to war and killing (see Footnote 2).
But when “objectors” become “activists” in order to undermine the nation’s will to fight, then I agree with Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, who wrote: “When a nation is at war many thing which might be said in time of peace are such a hindrance to its efforts that their utterance will not be endured so long as men fight and no court could regard them as protected by any Constitutional right.” [Schenk v. US, 249 US 47, 52 (1919)]
And when “activists” openly give aid and comfort to the enemy, as Medea Benjamin and her Code Pink group did when they gave $600,000 in cash to Al Qaeda while my son was fighting them in Fallujah, or when Democratic Party demagogues like Murtha, Rockerfeller, or Durbin, openly undermine our military and intelligence services for political purposes, or when “activist’s behavior” is acknowleged by our enemy as advancing their cause, they cross the line from being “dissenters” into being traitors.
There are times when it is not possible for “people of good will to agree to disagree.” We are in one of those times. The stakes in this war are not “international respect,” or “peace in our time,” or “no war for oil,” but national survival and the lives of our citizens, in the face of 7th Century religious fanaticism that has shown a willingness to murder us by the thousands.
The people who participated in the event described above, and the people who defend them, are doing the work of the enemy, here in America. And no, I do NOT believe that traitors have “a right to express their opinions,” either. I am in good company as neither did Justice Holmes, one of the foremost liberals of the 19th Century.
Michael Walzer, editor of Dissent Magazine put it this way:
So I say, screw them and screw you.
Footnote 1 - For those that do not know, John Dickinson resigned his seat in the Continental Congress because he would not sign the Declaration of Independence. Dickinson believed that a peaceful resolution of our differences with England was possible. Dickinson, after he left Congress, joined the Continental Army as a “Private Soldier,” though was promoted to Brigadier General after the Battle of Brandywine.
Footnote 2 - It is possible for conscientious objectors to serve their country during war, in spite of their aversion to it.
The late Desmond T. Doss Sr was a conscientious objector who declined a religious exemption to the WWII draft (he was a Seventh Day Adventist) to serve as a medic. He was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor for his bravery on Okinawa.
Thomas W. Bennett was a Vietnam War draftee who was also a conscientious objector who served as a combat medic. For his bravery under fire in tending and rescuing his wounded comrades, Bennett was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor, posthumously.
georgej on January 9, 2007 at 3:14 PM
BDS is so fashionable!
RushBaby on January 9, 2007 at 3:21 PM
I nominate georgej’s comment above to be designated “GeorgeJ’s Troll Hammer”. georgej, may we quote you?
RushBaby on January 9, 2007 at 3:24 PM
Most of them have rich mommies/daddies - thus, loaded credit cards…also, note all the cars behind them - suppose any of them walked there?
You are sooooo clever Bohica! 22 is a clue!
Entelechy on January 9, 2007 at 3:34 PM
I also think zombie is a chick.
WriterMom on January 9, 2007 at 3:35 PM
I am sure most of them have no jobs, and are only remotely familiar with the concepts of deoderant and for women-shaving armpits and legs. Unless you work for some crappy moonbat lefty NGO, what kind of job would give you time of for a ‘beach impeach’ stunt? Kos intern? Sheehan speechwriter? Moore donut slave?
WriterMom on January 9, 2007 at 3:40 PM
I hate being right, really I do, but can there be any doubt that the Democrats ARE embracing the left wing fringe.
BohicaTwentyTwo on January 9, 2007 at 4:16 PM
It takes two minutes in MS Paint program to turn that into IMPEACHED PERJURER but unfortunately there is no room left on the beach to add Clinton’s face.
Perchant on January 9, 2007 at 4:41 PM
What about using Paint to bend IMPEACH around into a circle, since that’s really the appropriate shape for this kind of jerk?
ReubenJCogburn on January 9, 2007 at 6:40 PM
Sorry folks, I want him impeached too!!
For failing to protect the borders of this country. For allowing border patrol agents to go to prison for protecting this country. For allowing the National Guard to be ridiculed and assaulted on our borders.For selling out the roads and manufacturing of this country. For destroying the middle class.For sending Americans to war in Iraq while this country is invaded daily by foreign invaders intent on crime,drug dealing, taking advantage of Americans,etc. I think his stance on this is far more dangerous than Iraq.
Mellen on January 9, 2007 at 6:44 PM
Actually, it’s spelled ‘horde’ unless you’re storing a bunch of things…then it’s a hoard.
“The Mongol horde collected a hoard of treasure.”
James on January 9, 2007 at 10:57 PM
Second!
Buck Turgidson on January 9, 2007 at 11:32 PM
“Candygram for Mongo! Candygram for Mongo!”
Dave Shay on January 9, 2007 at 11:39 PM
Rusbaby, Buck.
Yes. Feel free.
georgej on January 10, 2007 at 12:44 AM
georgej on January 10, 2007 at 12:44 AM Thank you. Mark Steyn’s got nothing on you. In the wake of the 2000 election, I knew something fundamental in
American politicsthe democrat party had changed somehow. Seven years later that change is still evident as you so aptly described. I know the left really hates this, but at some point, dissent and activism carried too far can indeed become treason when you root for the enemy. After gulf war I, those who opposed it in Washington prior to Saddam’s defeat looked foolish afterward. It popped the “Vietnam bubble” that liberals clung to for decades. They desperately have to restore the kind of collective national self doubt that I grew up with. No thanks. It’s time to fight.Buck Turgidson on January 10, 2007 at 11:24 AM