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British cardinal urges Catholics to show “solidarity” with the poor by fasting

posted at 1:51 pm on January 6, 2007 by Allahpundit
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He also wants them to show solidarity with ignoramuses by skipping school, with the homeless by not bathing, and with “nice guy” beta males by abstaining from sex. I presume.

How about eating full meals and donating more to charity instead?

The Archbishop of Westminster has called upon Roman Catholics to practise fasting as a sign of solidarity with the world’s poor.

Cardinal Cormac Murphy- O’Connor, the leader of the Roman Catholic Church in England and Wales, is urging his flock to return to the “simple life” to counter the culture of consumerism…

The Cardinal makes his plea for fasting as the Catholic aid agency Cafod begins its Live Simply campaign, in which Christians pledge to cut back on excess in a stand against “consumerism, celebrity and hype” and to help those living in poverty…

The Cardinal ate soup and a roll for lunch yesterday and a small piece of fish for supper.


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Sorry, no can do. Just got back from food shopping and just ate a nice sammige.

JammieWearingFool on January 6, 2007 at 1:57 PM

Err, is it OK for me to show solidarity with those “Alpha males” instead?

That seems like something I could do…

EFG on January 6, 2007 at 1:57 PM

Teach a man to fish, I say.

JammieWearingFool on January 6, 2007 at 1:58 PM

Another corruption of the faith from this man. That is not the purpose of fasting, solidarity with anything.

naliaka on January 6, 2007 at 2:04 PM

The Cardinal makes his plea for fasting as the Catholic aid agency Cafod begins its Live Simply campaign, in which Christians pledge to cut back on excess in a stand against “consumerism, celebrity and hype” and to help those living in poverty…

We could ALL do with a little less consumerism, celebrity, and hype. I rail against that every single day. But having soup and fish as a fast??? As a SYMBOL? GRADE: F

Jammie, you heartless b*stard. ;)

seejanemom on January 6, 2007 at 2:04 PM

In solidarity with my infidel brethren I’m making a concerted effort to add more pork to my diet. The bob evans microwave pork loin is infidelicious!

Buck Turgidson on January 6, 2007 at 2:08 PM

The Cardinal ate soup and a roll for lunch yesterday and a small piece of fish for supper.

I’m sure the poor and starving feel better now.

Speaking of pork, I’ve got some ribs in the smoker now. Dinner is gonna be good tonight!

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GT on January 6, 2007 at 2:16 PM

How about eating full meals and donating more to charity instead?

posted at 1:51 pm on January 6, 2007 by Allahpundit

LOL. Quite right. I don’t see how going hungry myself is going to help the needy. But a few bucks, (or euros as the case may be) a couple times a year, well, that may.

THeDRiFTeR on January 6, 2007 at 2:20 PM

Speaking of pork, I’ve got some ribs in the smoker now. GT on January 6, 2007 at 2:16 PM

God bless you my son. Go in piece, and do god’s will.

Buck Turgidson on January 6, 2007 at 2:24 PM

I showed my solidarity with bullies by beating up a bunch of hippies today.

lorien1973 on January 6, 2007 at 2:36 PM

I showed my solidarity with lazy people by WAAAAAAAYYYYYYY over sleeping today.

:-)

One Angry Christian on January 6, 2007 at 2:44 PM

Why does it seem that the higher they get in the Church hierarchy, the dumber they get? (Popes excepted.. maybe)

Our local Catholic priest is a very smart man; an excellent historian who always illustrates his sermons with realities from history. He understands economics, law and all manner of useful things.

The Bishops and Cardinals (nearly all the ones I have heard or read, anyway) seem to spout leftist political nonsense and seem to understand nothing useful for dealing with ‘real’ life.

LegendHasIt on January 6, 2007 at 3:14 PM

Heinrich Heine – Germany, A Winter’s Tale – 1844:

I know the authors, I know the tune,
I know it line for line-
In public, water is all they preach;
While in secret they guzzle wine.

LegendHasIt, popes are not excepted…These cardinals and popes would be more credible if they’d open the Vatacan kitty and do charitable work with at least more of it.

…with the homeless by not bathing…

No longer necessary – the applications coming in so soon…

Entelechy on January 6, 2007 at 3:51 PM

I fast during Lent and I try not to overeat at other times, but I fail to see how this is going to help the poor. This stunt may make the cardinal feel good about himself, but that’s about it.

Ellen on January 6, 2007 at 4:00 PM

I stopped going to mass when my perish asked if I had the Courage to donate an hour of my daily wage to them.

And I used to feel good when I slipped a 20 vice a 10.

Until they build a new church in town, I’m just gonna sin it.

Screw it, I’m on the fast track to hell anyways, if you’re gonna go… go for the gusto!!

Ringmaster on January 6, 2007 at 4:19 PM

I thought Advent was the penitential season…that ended with Christmas.
Isn’t Christianity besieged enough in the UK without trying to make those few faithful leave the Church because they’re not “devout” enough, however their local priests choose to define that?

Jen the Neocon on January 6, 2007 at 4:33 PM

I thought Advent was the penitential season…that ended with Christmas.
Isn’t Christianity besieged enough in the UK without trying to make those few faithful leave the Church because they’re not “devout” enough, however their local priests choose to define that?

Jen the Neocon on January 6, 2007 at 4:33 PM

Lent, the forty day period before Easter, is the traditional penitential fasting season in the Church.
And what exactly is so unusual about a Catholic priest calling for a fast on a holy day(Epiphany)?
I mean what makes it Hot Air-worthy?

billy on January 6, 2007 at 4:56 PM

billy, Advent is also a season of fasting–Ask around at your local Catholic parish.

Jen the Neocon on January 6, 2007 at 5:17 PM

The Cardinal ate soup and a roll for lunch yesterday and a small piece of fish for supper.

Wow… turns out I’ve been impoverished all this time. Where do I apply for public assistance?

SailorDave on January 6, 2007 at 5:38 PM

This is too close to “Eat your vegetables; there are starving children in China!” for me.

rmgraha on January 6, 2007 at 7:57 PM

Two problems I see here:

1) Everybody believes what the MSM wrote. I noticed that there was no quote from the Cardinal. That always makes me hesitate before I criticize.

2) Fasting is an ancient Judeo-Christian tradition (as well as Muslim, Hindu, etc.). It’s silly and undignified to mock people for innocuous religious observance. This is different than practicing apologetics and only makes one seem to have the wit of Howard Dean.

Having vented, if the Cardinal is doing this as a sign of solidarity, which I certainly hope he is not, it seems like it is mortification for political cause rather than for spiritual. This is also common but usually is far more drastic (i.e., hunger strike). By their nature, political statements need lots of press. This will not get enough to be effective. This, coupled with the Cardinal’s stance against consumerism, I’ll bet that the British press misconstrued what was said.

cmay on January 6, 2007 at 8:36 PM

Could be he believes those fasting will come to know what hunger is like, and thus gain compassion for those who have no choice in that matter. Seems reasonable to me.

mikeyboss on January 6, 2007 at 9:12 PM

cmay, I’ll second your point on the story line being weaved to suit the Times’ writer. But I doubt it is too far from being accurate.

We used to fast way back when and it was associated with the little can that we would put the money we saved in. The Church used to do the work to feed the poor from that money donated.

I don’t see that anywhere in the story. I do see a reference to CAFOD which doesn’t say much about the Church doing that either. They do have “campaigns” galore though, from organizing protests to organizing sign-ups to carrying protest signs to writing e-mails to … whatever. And the emphasis always seems to be on the bad government — fair trade, yada yada yada — and bad businesses — exploitation of workers, stealing resources, yada yada yada. If it didn’t have Catholic in the title you couldn’t tell them from the anarchists and moonbats at the local Big 8 Summit or WTO meeting.

And that’s what is so pitiful about this message from Cardnial Cormac and, per the article, Rowan Williams, The Archbishop of Canterbury: Say that you care, tell others to care, tell others to do something about it and eat a small bowl of soup for show.

The rather good thing about it though is that they aren’t visibly asking for money. They used to do a good job with feeding the poor and it was about the only thing they could do many years ago. But that’s s totally anachronistic now. It’s individuals taking it to the field and actually empowering people, via micro-loans and networking the poor with skills or talents and getting their products to market that will bring them the money they need to be the “fat and loving it” consumers Cormac and Williams want to help by eating a small piece of fish or “losing weight”.

Dusty on January 6, 2007 at 11:21 PM

Dusty,

I concur with:

If it didn’t have Catholic in the title you couldn’t tell them from the anarchists and moonbats at the local Big 8 Summit or WTO meeting.

We have the same problem with a lot of the so-called Catholic universities and charities in the US. And I certainly left open the possibility that the Cardinal was attempting a political statement. I’m not one who believes that you can or should prohibit religious (or areligious or antireligious) people from wielding whatever influence they have. If this is meant to be a political solidarity move, it’s pretty lame. If it’s meant to invoke a lost Catholic identity and a spiritual bond with the poor, then it’s OK.

The fact that the “news” article fails to quote him makes me wonder and at least give the presumption of innocence (although it may turn out to be unwarranted).

cmay on January 7, 2007 at 10:53 AM

I am a Catholic and not ashamed at all what he might have said or done. Yes the church is made up of human beings of all types of peoples. I was always taught not to judge anyone especially priests and the church leaders. God will judge them ,just as He will judge each and everyone of us. Maybe we should fast and also give more money to the poor, however, I think that might have been his intention but was quoted wrong. Maybe?

bones47 on January 7, 2007 at 9:04 PM

Imagine. A man of God asking his flock to empathize with the poor and hungry. WTF?????

honora on January 8, 2007 at 2:09 PM

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