Let me beat the dead horse:

. . . he withdrew his candidacy because of prostate cancer, the Farmersville Garbage Scandal which significantly reduced his support in his core upstate counties, and the fallout from his affair and messy divorce from his wife Donna Hanover. During the ill-fated campaign, Giuliani was forced to confess to his marital infidelities and, in the process, lost a further significant base of electoral support.

I don’t know that treatable cancer is the sole reason he pulled out of the race. I’m sure the treatment is demanding and he may not have had the stamina to campaign. But there are many current senators with medical problems. Tim Johnson is still in the hospital, Arlen Specter had cancer, Harry Reid had a stroke, Joe Biden had an aneurysm, etc.

This whole blog thing works better when you read what others said.

I bet that little cancer thing was a small factor as well.

Bush barely beat Gore in 2000. He did better against Kerry in 2004 but still only beat him by 3,000,000 votes. In 2006, the Reps got creamed when a lot of social and economic conservatives stayed home. Whoever is nominated has to be able to pull the party together. Giuliani will polarize the party and probably spawn a third party candidate (a la Perot).

If you would prefer, I will change my original statement to (although I believe he will run as the anti-Hillary): If Rudy expects convince the party base that he could beat Hillary head-to-head, he should have proved it in his home state where she is a carpetbagger.

He will change his stance on gun control when it doesn’t concern high populated cities. Remember, he was acting locally, not nationally.

I could be mistaken, but I thought he pulled out of the Senate race because of his prostate cancer.

mikeyboss, I pulled this from Wikipedia.

. . . he withdrew his candidacy because of prostate cancer, the Farmersville Garbage Scandal which significantly reduced his support in his core upstate counties, and the fallout from his affair and messy divorce from his wife Donna Hanover. During the ill-fated campaign, Giuliani was forced to confess to his marital infidelities and, in the process, lost a further significant base of electoral support.

I don’t know that treatable cancer is the sole reason he pulled out of the race. I’m sure the treatment is demanding and he may not have had the stamina to campaign. But there are many current senators with medical problems. Tim Johnson is still in the hospital, Arlen Specter had cancer, Harry Reid had a stroke, Joe Biden had an aneurysm, etc.

All of this aside, I still contend that if he really expects to run as the anti-Hillary, he should have run against (and beaten) her last year.

I have to agree with Halley on this one. If it’s going to be between McCain and Guiliani, the next president will be democrat. I personally, cannot vote for either one, and I’m sure there are many out there that will just not vote, thus handing the dems a rather large victory.

So you’d rather have a President Clinton (part 2) or a President Obama?

Slublog on January 2, 2007 at 3:32 PM

What I’m saying is, there isn’t a lot of difference between the dems and McCain/ Rudy. Rinos don’t stand a chance. Rudy’s for more gun control, He’ll never get my vote. McCain is against free speech with his McCain/Feingold bill along with other moves across the isle, that I can’t recall just now. Not a lot of choice there.

Please remember that Rudy (the hometown favorite) pulled out of a race with Clinton (the carpetbagger from Chicago/Arkansas) because his personal life was in shambles, even compared to hers.

I could be mistaken, but I thought he pulled out of the Senate race because of his prostate cancer.

McCain/Giuliani could stop the Hillary/Obama Freight Train in 08.

I doubt that they could get past the primaries. And if they did, they’d lose more than 45 states to anybody running against them. If they do get on the ticket, what makes you think the guy who pulled out of the senate race w/Hillary because of personal problems could beat her in a Presidential election? Please remember that Rudy (the hometown favorite) pulled out of a race with Clinton (the carpetbagger from Chicago/Arkansas) because his personal life was in shambles, even compared to hers. If Rudy wanted to show he was the anti-Hillary, he should have run against her in 2006. Afterall, the base would be more impressed (and possibly forgiving towards his social views) if he had.

I have to agree with Halley on this one. If it’s going to be between McCain and Guiliani, the next president will be democrat. I personally, cannot vote for either one, and I’m sure there are many out there that will just not vote, thus handing the dems a rather large victory.

So you’d rather have a President Clinton (part 2) or a President Obama?

Maybe Santorum can be convinced to run. Unless the GOP fronts a strong, principled Reaganesque leader next time, it’s doomed.

Halley on January 2, 2007 at 10:54 AM

I have to agree with Halley on this one. If it’s going to be between McCain and Guiliani, the next president will be democrat. I personally, cannot vote for either one, and I’m sure there are many out there that will just not vote, thus handing the dems a rather large victory.

Why the big discrepancy by the media between two similar cases, other than the fact that the majority of the media loves to vilify the Republicans and deify the Democrats?

Can you imagine President Barack Hussein Obama?

How about President Hillary Rotten Clinton?

I have a bad feeling that Giuliani is just not electable.

I strongly feel Giuliani is the best man for the job for the Republicans. On a national level, I have to think he will have a more conservative agenda than he did on the municipal level in NYC. Just look at what he did for Manhattan in two terms. He turned the city from a filthy den of inequity and brought it back to the glory it is in now.

From someone who lived in New York for most of his time in office, I’m telling you, this man is the real deal. He virtually eliminated violent crime from Battery Park to 96th street. He reinvigorated real estate, and he made Times Square family friendly. He is morally strong, and big on police and safety. He’s also Catholic!

We will need to run someone like Giuliani to win. He could take some votes in New York, and other blue states. He could get more than enough votes from Reps, hopefully. While some of his opinions, you may not agree with, he is a strong supporter of the war on terror, and national security. He is tied to successfuly running a city during the worst terrorist attack in history. He is known for reducing crime, and much more.

If losing the mid-term was hard, imagine losing the White House, at this crucial time in our history.

Can you imagine President Barack Hussein Obama?