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	<title>Comments on: NYT Ombudsman:  Times fumbled El Salvador abortion/murder story</title>
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		<title>By: eeyore</title>
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		<dc:creator>eeyore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 03:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...Despite all evidence to the contrary, the New York Times continued to &lt;em&gt;Rather&lt;/em&gt; the Climaco story...&quot;

Uh...nah! It just doesn&#039;t have the same *snap* for verb-ization like, say, &quot;Bork&quot; does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;Despite all evidence to the contrary, the New York Times continued to <em>Rather</em> the Climaco story&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh&#8230;nah! It just doesn&#8217;t have the same *snap* for verb-ization like, say, &#8220;Bork&#8221; does.</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; NYT &#8220;corrects&#8221; El Salvador abortion story</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; NYT &#8220;corrects&#8221; El Salvador abortion story</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 02:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Calame 1 2, Keller 0. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: We Should Live - Ben Bateman &#187;</title>
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		<dc:creator>We Should Live - Ben Bateman &#187;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 19:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] So far it&#8217;s just another day of dishonest reporting from the MSM.  But the story&#8217;s real shocker is an admission from the NYT&#8217;s ombudsman, Byron Calame, that the portion of the story about Ms. Climaco was patently false, and that Mr. Hitt had relied on a translator who worked for Ipas, which then used the NYT story to seek donations.  All the facts are there, though the conclusion is more tepid than we on the right would wish: &#8220;Accuracy and fairness were not pursued with the vigor Times readers have a right to expect.&#8221;  Blogger See-Dubya analyses Mr. Calame&#8217;s article here, and emphasises that the NYT arrogantly dismissed complaints about the article before it had even received an English translation of the key court ruling.  In fact, the NYT still refuses to retract the story, apologize, or even admit the error. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] So far it&#8217;s just another day of dishonest reporting from the MSM.  But the story&#8217;s real shocker is an admission from the NYT&#8217;s ombudsman, Byron Calame, that the portion of the story about Ms. Climaco was patently false, and that Mr. Hitt had relied on a translator who worked for Ipas, which then used the NYT story to seek donations.  All the facts are there, though the conclusion is more tepid than we on the right would wish: &#8220;Accuracy and fairness were not pursued with the vigor Times readers have a right to expect.&#8221;  Blogger See-Dubya analyses Mr. Calame&#8217;s article here, and emphasises that the NYT arrogantly dismissed complaints about the article before it had even received an English translation of the key court ruling.  In fact, the NYT still refuses to retract the story, apologize, or even admit the error. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A Blog For All</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Blog For All</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 17:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;NYT Editor Considers Canning Public Editor...&lt;/strong&gt;

The New York Times established a public editor slot at the paper in the wake of the Jayson Blair debacle. Now, they&#039;re looking to abolish the position once Byron Calame&#039;s term is up in May....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>NYT Editor Considers Canning Public Editor&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The New York Times established a public editor slot at the paper in the wake of the Jayson Blair debacle. Now, they&#8217;re looking to abolish the position once Byron Calame&#8217;s term is up in May&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; NYT set to torpedo public editor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; NYT set to torpedo public editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 16:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Except for his column a few weeks back reversing course on the Times&#8217;s SWIFT expose, Calame hadn&#8217;t done much boat-rocking. He&#8217;s mocked for it in the Observer piece, in fact; the author compares him to Barney, &#8220;the friendly purple dinosaur.&#8221; But all that changed on December 31, when he fact-checked the Sunday Magazine&#8217;s cover story on abortion in El Salvador into oblivion. Sample quote: At my request, a stringer for The Times in El Salvador walked into the court building without making any prior arrangements a few days ago, and minutes later had an official copy of the court ruling. It proved to be the same document as the one disseminated by LifeSiteNews.com, which had been translated into English in early December by a translator retained by The Times Magazine’s editors. I’ve since had the stringer review the translation of key paragraphs for me. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Except for his column a few weeks back reversing course on the Times&#8217;s SWIFT expose, Calame hadn&#8217;t done much boat-rocking. He&#8217;s mocked for it in the Observer piece, in fact; the author compares him to Barney, &#8220;the friendly purple dinosaur.&#8221; But all that changed on December 31, when he fact-checked the Sunday Magazine&#8217;s cover story on abortion in El Salvador into oblivion. Sample quote: At my request, a stringer for The Times in El Salvador walked into the court building without making any prior arrangements a few days ago, and minutes later had an official copy of the court ruling. It proved to be the same document as the one disseminated by LifeSiteNews.com, which had been translated into English in early December by a translator retained by The Times Magazine’s editors. I’ve since had the stringer review the translation of key paragraphs for me. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: RobertHuntingdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobertHuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 18:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, so now a child who&#039;s already been born is now &quot;legal&quot; (according to the all-knowing sages of the treason times at least) to commit abortion upon.  Great.  So the libtards who so decry the right of the roman paterfamilias to kill his wife or children at whim are now championing the right of the mother to murder her children at whim, before OR after they are born.  This while using &quot;for the children!&quot; as a rallying cry for just about every other snot-brained lunatic idea they champion.

Is anybody else nauseated by the rank hypocrasy involved in such libtardism?

RH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, so now a child who&#8217;s already been born is now &#8220;legal&#8221; (according to the all-knowing sages of the treason times at least) to commit abortion upon.  Great.  So the libtards who so decry the right of the roman paterfamilias to kill his wife or children at whim are now championing the right of the mother to murder her children at whim, before OR after they are born.  This while using &#8220;for the children!&#8221; as a rallying cry for just about every other snot-brained lunatic idea they champion.</p>
<p>Is anybody else nauseated by the rank hypocrasy involved in such libtardism?</p>
<p>RH</p>
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		<title>By: BizzyBlog &#187; The NY Times: Caught Red-Handed in an Obviously False Story &#8212; And It STILL Won&#8217;t Retract or Correct</title>
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		<dc:creator>BizzyBlog &#187; The NY Times: Caught Red-Handed in an Obviously False Story &#8212; And It STILL Won&#8217;t Retract or Correct</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 17:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Those who ridicule critics of the formerly Mainstream Media (also affectionately known in these parts as the WORMs [Worn-Out Reactionary Media]) as throwing around baseless allegations over trivial matters, need to explain how the New York Times Magazine can get a story so wrong, have it rubbed in their collective faces, and refuse to correct it, even when their ombudsman calls them out (may require free registration). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Those who ridicule critics of the formerly Mainstream Media (also affectionately known in these parts as the WORMs [Worn-Out Reactionary Media]) as throwing around baseless allegations over trivial matters, need to explain how the New York Times Magazine can get a story so wrong, have it rubbed in their collective faces, and refuse to correct it, even when their ombudsman calls them out (may require free registration). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; All the abortion lies fit to print</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; All the abortion lies fit to print</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 13:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lifesite debunks NYT Calame debunks NYT Jack Hitt&#8217;s hit piece See-Dubya&#8217;s analysis  Download Vent for your iPod Subscribe to Hot Air TV on iTunes  &#160;&#160;&#160; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Lifesite debunks NYT Calame debunks NYT Jack Hitt&#8217;s hit piece See-Dubya&#8217;s analysis  Download Vent for your iPod Subscribe to Hot Air TV on iTunes  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: rightlinx.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mission Aborted</title>
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		<dc:creator>rightlinx.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mission Aborted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 02:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Abortion will be the defining issue of 2007, with the Supreme Court&#8217;s ruling on the federal partial-birth abortion ban coming up. Health care will play prominently into this, with Hillary Clinton leading the charge for more regulations of an already over-burdened industry. Hot Air details the media&#8217;s agenda. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Abortion will be the defining issue of 2007, with the Supreme Court&#8217;s ruling on the federal partial-birth abortion ban coming up. Health care will play prominently into this, with Hillary Clinton leading the charge for more regulations of an already over-burdened industry. Hot Air details the media&#8217;s agenda. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bitsblog &#187; It doesn&#8217;t fit the pro-abortion mantra&#8230; so the Times doesn&#8217;t correct it.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bitsblog &#187; It doesn&#8217;t fit the pro-abortion mantra&#8230; so the Times doesn&#8217;t correct it.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 23:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hot Air, tonight, has a series of links up about a recent NY Times article on abortion which included a bit about about a woman who was serving 30 years in a prison in El Salvador for getting an abortion. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hot Air, tonight, has a series of links up about a recent NY Times article on abortion which included a bit about about a woman who was serving 30 years in a prison in El Salvador for getting an abortion. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ace of Spades HQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ace of Spades HQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 22:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;NYT Article Claimed El Salvadoran Woman Jailed For 30 Years For Illegal Abortion, When In Fact She Was Imprisoned For Strangling A Newborn Child; Refuses To Correct...&lt;/strong&gt;

&quot;Experts.&quot;......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>NYT Article Claimed El Salvadoran Woman Jailed For 30 Years For Illegal Abortion, When In Fact She Was Imprisoned For Strangling A Newborn Child; Refuses To Correct&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;Experts.&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rmgraha</title>
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		<dc:creator>rmgraha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 17:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Accuracy and fairness were not pursued with the vigor Times readers have a right to expect.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, this is exactly the type of biased garbage we expect from the NYT. NYT Motto: &quot;&lt;strong&gt;We&#039;ll&lt;/strong&gt; tell you what is accurate and fair; you are too stupid.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Accuracy and fairness were not pursued with the vigor Times readers have a right to expect.</p></blockquote>
<p>No, this is exactly the type of biased garbage we expect from the NYT. NYT Motto: &#8220;<strong>We&#8217;ll</strong> tell you what is accurate and fair; you are too stupid.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anwyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anwyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 17:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS am I the only one surprised that the Times actually published Calame&#039;s piece?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS am I the only one surprised that the Times actually published Calame&#8217;s piece?</p>
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		<title>By: Anwyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anwyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 16:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SeeDub, thanks so much for calling attention to this--valuable both for the picture of things happening in El Salvador and for the continued hubris of the NYT:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;I also think that if the author and we editors knew of the contents of that third ruling, we would have qualified what we said about Ms. Climaco. Which is NOT to say that I simply accept the third ruling as ‘true’; El Salvador’s judicial system is terribly politicized.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In other words, the medical evidence that the woman&#039;s baby was born alive is suspect because it would derail a US journalist&#039;s opinion otherwise. Disgusting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SeeDub, thanks so much for calling attention to this&#8211;valuable both for the picture of things happening in El Salvador and for the continued hubris of the NYT:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I also think that if the author and we editors knew of the contents of that third ruling, we would have qualified what we said about Ms. Climaco. Which is NOT to say that I simply accept the third ruling as ‘true’; El Salvador’s judicial system is terribly politicized.”</p></blockquote>
<p>In other words, the medical evidence that the woman&#8217;s baby was born alive is suspect because it would derail a US journalist&#8217;s opinion otherwise. Disgusting.</p>
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		<title>By: rmgraha</title>
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		<dc:creator>rmgraha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 15:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as the NYT and the liberal left is concerned, this is just the next step after &#039;partial-birth abortion&#039; -- &quot;Post-birth abortion.&quot; 

Nothing to see here, move along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as the NYT and the liberal left is concerned, this is just the next step after &#8216;partial-birth abortion&#8217; &#8212; &#8220;Post-birth abortion.&#8221; </p>
<p>Nothing to see here, move along.</p>
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		<title>By: The Autopsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Autopsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 15:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;NY Times fumbles abortion story...&lt;/strong&gt;

Nice to see Calame calling one of his reporters on such a poorly-researched story....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>NY Times fumbles abortion story&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Nice to see Calame calling one of his reporters on such a poorly-researched story&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: One Angry Christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>One Angry Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 15:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh just shut up and swallow what they give you. They&#039;re not reaching for the truth but ... a &quot;higher truth&quot;. 

gag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh just shut up and swallow what they give you. They&#8217;re not reaching for the truth but &#8230; a &#8220;higher truth&#8221;. </p>
<p>gag.</p>
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		<title>By: cmay</title>
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		<dc:creator>cmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 15:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;There was a relatively non-partisan era in American journalism . . . .&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Partisanship and bias aside, why have other news sources not picked up this gross journalistic lapse?  When Dan Rather made an absolute ass of himself, the rest of the MSM &lt;em&gt;defended&lt;/em&gt; him.  They gave him a lifetime achievement award, for goodness sake.  Reuters w/fauxtography, AP w/Capt Jamil:  These aren&#039;t just lapses is journalism, they are gross ethical flaws.  But what makes it worse is that there is no competitive urge in the MSM to expose their competitors&#039; shady dealings.  Is this professional courtesy or groupthink?  Or do they feel that they are all guilty of the same shoddy practices?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There was a relatively non-partisan era in American journalism . . . .</p></blockquote>
<p>Partisanship and bias aside, why have other news sources not picked up this gross journalistic lapse?  When Dan Rather made an absolute ass of himself, the rest of the MSM <em>defended</em> him.  They gave him a lifetime achievement award, for goodness sake.  Reuters w/fauxtography, AP w/Capt Jamil:  These aren&#8217;t just lapses is journalism, they are gross ethical flaws.  But what makes it worse is that there is no competitive urge in the MSM to expose their competitors&#8217; shady dealings.  Is this professional courtesy or groupthink?  Or do they feel that they are all guilty of the same shoddy practices?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Treacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Treacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 12:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The guy&#039;s name is Jack Hitt, huh? I wonder if his middle initial is S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guy&#8217;s name is Jack Hitt, huh? I wonder if his middle initial is S.</p>
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		<title>By: BizzyBlog &#187; CNN.com Home Page Photo Gives Saddam the &#8216;Deceased Statesman&#8217; Look</title>
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		<dc:creator>BizzyBlog &#187; CNN.com Home Page Photo Gives Saddam the &#8216;Deceased Statesman&#8217; Look</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 09:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] UPDATE 8: Not to be outdone, here&#8217;s the New York Times (HT Hot Air; scroll down, and look on left; direct link to pic is here; pic below is from my host&#8217;s hard drive): [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] UPDATE 8: Not to be outdone, here&#8217;s the New York Times (HT Hot Air; scroll down, and look on left; direct link to pic is here; pic below is from my host&#8217;s hard drive): [...]</p>
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		<title>By: RD</title>
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		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 07:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Hitt and the NYT don&#039;t seem to express any concern on that question whatsoever; I suppose that concern - more than trivial given what&#039;s been revealed about their source - is just a mere &quot;detail&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Hitt and the NYT don&#8217;t seem to express any concern on that question whatsoever; I suppose that concern &#8211; more than trivial given what&#8217;s been revealed about their source &#8211; is just a mere &#8220;detail&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: RD</title>
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		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 07:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I think it is just the leftist view of what is abortion. She didn’t want it, so therefore it was an abortion, not murder, by choice.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yep lsutiger, that&#039;s it.  She &lt;i&gt;would&lt;/i&gt; have had an abortion if it had been legal and available.  It wasn&#039;t, so she committed &lt;i&gt;retroactive abortion&lt;/i&gt;.  To break it down:
. the fact that she had to give birth at all is an outrage in and of itself;
. there was no way she was going to keep the fetus, having &quot;chosen&quot; to &quot;abort&quot; it;
. therefore, the state forced her to kill the fetus after it was born.
. And now, having deprived her of her rights, they have the gall to convict her of &lt;i&gt;murder&lt;/i&gt; and deprive her of even &lt;i&gt;more&lt;/i&gt;?  It&#039;s George Orwell, I tell you!

So yes, the story is &quot;fake but accurate&quot;, or more correctly, &quot;inaccurate but real&quot;.

The problem here is that from reading the story, we don&#039;t necessarily know if abortion is unavailable (legal is another matter).  If she had wanted to abort the fetus, was it truly impossible to manage?  What if she murdered her baby fair &amp; square then engaged the abortion rights group post facto (or they her) based on the mere &lt;i&gt;claim&lt;/i&gt; of having wanted an abortion?  (On the idea that such an argument would actually get her, of all things, &lt;i&gt;sympathy&lt;/i&gt; by the likes of the New York Times?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think it is just the leftist view of what is abortion. She didn’t want it, so therefore it was an abortion, not murder, by choice.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yep lsutiger, that&#8217;s it.  She <i>would</i> have had an abortion if it had been legal and available.  It wasn&#8217;t, so she committed <i>retroactive abortion</i>.  To break it down:<br />
. the fact that she had to give birth at all is an outrage in and of itself;<br />
. there was no way she was going to keep the fetus, having &#8220;chosen&#8221; to &#8220;abort&#8221; it;<br />
. therefore, the state forced her to kill the fetus after it was born.<br />
. And now, having deprived her of her rights, they have the gall to convict her of <i>murder</i> and deprive her of even <i>more</i>?  It&#8217;s George Orwell, I tell you!</p>
<p>So yes, the story is &#8220;fake but accurate&#8221;, or more correctly, &#8220;inaccurate but real&#8221;.</p>
<p>The problem here is that from reading the story, we don&#8217;t necessarily know if abortion is unavailable (legal is another matter).  If she had wanted to abort the fetus, was it truly impossible to manage?  What if she murdered her baby fair &amp; square then engaged the abortion rights group post facto (or they her) based on the mere <i>claim</i> of having wanted an abortion?  (On the idea that such an argument would actually get her, of all things, <i>sympathy</i> by the likes of the New York Times?)</p>
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		<title>By: lsutiger</title>
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		<dc:creator>lsutiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 05:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is just the leftist view of what &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; abortion. She didn&#039;t want &lt;em&gt;it&lt;/em&gt;, so therefore it was an abortion, not murder, by choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is just the leftist view of what <em>is</em> abortion. She didn&#8217;t want <em>it</em>, so therefore it was an abortion, not murder, by choice.</p>
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		<title>By: x95b10</title>
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		<dc:creator>x95b10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 04:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ehhh, when disseminating propaganda you have to break a few eggs.</description>
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		<title>By: Janos Hunyadi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janos Hunyadi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 03:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a relatively non-partisan era in American journalism which began in the 1930s, when big-city newspapers took on both Republican and Demo political machines in the name of &quot;reform&quot;, but era ended when the major newspapers and TV news adopted the New Left agenda--especially the anti-war aspect--during the mid to late 60s.

For a full four decades now, the print and TV &quot;media&quot; have been nothing more than House Organs of the Left and the Demos, and anyone who says otherwise is lying or engaging in self-delusion

We are here in the blog-o-sphere because the MSM are, as the above case proves once again, are useless lying tools</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a relatively non-partisan era in American journalism which began in the 1930s, when big-city newspapers took on both Republican and Demo political machines in the name of &#8220;reform&#8221;, but era ended when the major newspapers and TV news adopted the New Left agenda&#8211;especially the anti-war aspect&#8211;during the mid to late 60s.</p>
<p>For a full four decades now, the print and TV &#8220;media&#8221; have been nothing more than House Organs of the Left and the Demos, and anyone who says otherwise is lying or engaging in self-delusion</p>
<p>We are here in the blog-o-sphere because the MSM are, as the above case proves once again, are useless lying tools</p>
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