Lefties wonder why U.S. should care about Islamists governing Somalia

posted at 2:33 pm on December 29, 2006 by Allahpundit

It’s the WMD argument redux, with individual terrorists now playing the part of nukes and anthrax: if X isn’t inside the country, we’ve got no business getting involved. So jihadis get a new base of operations on an entirely different continent. So what?

If Bush can’t see the trees for the forest, these tools are far, far down the path in the opposite direction. Daveed Gartenstein-Ross explains:

In the first place, the criteria these two gentlemen use is flawed: there’s no reason to make the names of specific terrorists the determinative measurement, rather than the seventeen active terrorist training camps in the country, the al-Qaeda-like propaganda tapes that the ICU has been producing, and the conspicuous presence of foreign fighters. But beyond that, this also illustrates one of the flaws of making the study of terrorism all about the Bush administration. Either the ICU is a threat or it isn’t: two phone calls to a couple of public affairs officers with no expertise in Somalia is unlikely to resolve the matter.

But if it’s names they want, it’s names they shall have. The New York Sun identifies four terrorists in particular the U.S. is worried about, including two prime suspects in the 1998 embassy bombings. Plus:

In addition to the presence of Al Qaeda operatives inside the union’s military wing, the Treasury Department’s financial intelligence unit has tracked money from traditional Al Qaeda financiers in Saudi Arabia to the Islamic Courts Union accounts in East Africa. Al Qaeda leaders have urged fellow jihadists in recent videos and audio recordings to support the union’s fight against the transitional government and the Ethiopians.

But don’t take their word for it.

Military and intel officials tell the Sun they expect the deposed Islamists to organize an insurgency. The Ethiopian media’s expecting it, too: one newspaper in Addis Ababa chose for its front-page victory story the headline … “Mission Accomplished.” It’s the prelude to another familiar debate that’s just heating up in that country:

Ethiopian leaders are calling the military intervention a smart preemptive strike against the spread of religious extremism in the Horn of Africa. They say the world should thank Ethiopia for defeating a coalition of militant Islamists that U.S. officials have accused of having links to terrorists, including Al Qaeda.

Others here worry that the incursion could backfire over time by stirring political instability at home or driving Islamic militants to set their sights on this nation.

And finally, your quote of the day:

“It’s self-defense,” said Amare Aregawi, editor of the Reporter newspaper and a former rebel fighter. “People always say, ‘Don’t touch the terrorists. You’ll aggravate them.’ What are we supposed to do? Flatter them?”


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“It’s self-defense,” said Amare Aregawi, editor of the Reporter newspaper and a former rebel fighter. “People always say, ‘Don’t touch the terrorists. You’ll aggravate them.’ What are we supposed to do? Flatter them?”

Well, Patty Murray would.

JammieWearingFool on December 29, 2006 at 2:39 PM

Anyone think Michael Moore will be heading down to Somalia anytime soon to make a hack movie about Negasso Gidada?

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GT on December 29, 2006 at 2:47 PM

Strategy?! Somalia offers an opportunity. Should Ethiopian and Somali Govt forces give the Islamist temporary safe haven – could it lure Osama there?

It would be a political problem while critics complain that he has escaped, insinuating that Osama has freedom of travel rather than the administration’s claim that he is cornered.

But then we would have him right where we want him. In a place we can bomb to hell. All this assumes he isn’t already safe in Iran (taking hot showers and eating hot food).

Agrippa2k on December 29, 2006 at 2:58 PM

It’s still damn nice of him to provide that nice target on his forehead.

JackM on December 29, 2006 at 3:11 PM

We need to drop the term “war on terror” from our lexicon. We’ve successfully fought fascism and communism, now it’s time to fight Islamism. Simple as that.

Names? Who cares what their names are or where they are.

flipflop on December 29, 2006 at 3:20 PM

Who cares if an individually named muslim terrorist is in a specific country? … islam’s there. The “religion” itself is a terrorist entity. Islam belongs nowhere except the middle east. Ban it from every other country on earth until it either evolves or they all kill each other.

darwin on December 29, 2006 at 3:23 PM

I start with the premise that the left are traitors. That they hate America first and last and everywhere in-between. That they justify the attack on 9/11 as either we had it coming, or Bush did it as part of his plot. That consider America the center of evil in the Universe.

Until proven otherwise, leftists ARE traitors as far as I am concerned.

And because they hate America and act in all respects to help destroy her, the left wants to see the ICU prevail in Somalia, so that Al Qaeda can carry on “God’s Work” and continue it’s quest to destroy America and kill us all. After all, Socialism and the rule of Marx cannot rise as long as the evil American government stands unbowed.

As for those “less left,” i.e., the people we call “liberals,” they are simply useful idiots who can’t seem to grasp that our enemies don’t have the same sense of nuance and pastiche that they do, where us “neocons” (that’s liberal code talk for Zionist Jews who have taken over the government and the media, irrespective of whether or not we actually are Jewish, BTW) are simply not capable of understanding that a few hugs, a few choruses of Kumbyah will heal all the world’s ills. Our liberal friends simply cannot understand the our enemies have a 7th Century mindset where the only “nuance” they care about is wither to use an axe or a sword when chopping off heads, or when they slit throats, do they work the knife left-to-right or right-to-left.

georgej on December 29, 2006 at 3:25 PM


As for those “less left,” i.e., the people we call “liberals,” they are simply useful idiots who can’t seem to grasp that our enemies don’t have the same sense of nuance and pastiche that they do, where us “neocons” (that’s liberal code talk for Zionist Jews who have taken over the government and the media, irrespective of whether or not we actually are Jewish, BTW) are simply not capable of understanding that a few hugs, a few choruses of Kumbyah will heal all the world’s ills. Our liberal friends simply cannot understand the our enemies have a 7th Century mindset where the only “nuance” they care about is wither to use an axe or a sword when chopping off heads, or when they slit throats, do they work the knife left-to-right or right-to-left.

georgej on December 29, 2006 at 3:25 PM

Yes, and as several other people have pointed out in other threads on the HA site, “There is no cure for STUPID.”
Time for me to add the CyberCipher corollary to this principle, because not only is there no cure for stupid, but “In Western Civilization, there is no shortage of STUPID (either).”

CyberCipher on December 29, 2006 at 3:45 PM

It’s still damn nice of him to provide that nice target on his forehead.

What’d he do? Go to Ash Wednesday a couple months early?

flipflop on December 29, 2006 at 4:20 PM

If you follow the big money it’s not hard to understand why the left loves Islamofascism and particularly AQ so much.

I do thank Ethiopia for having the guts to stand up to Islamofascism.

Buzzy on December 29, 2006 at 5:00 PM

“if X isn’t inside the country, we’ve got no business getting involved. So jihadis get a new base of operations on an entirely different continent.”

And yet, are they saying they would prohibit all immigration (or visits) from an Islamist Somalia? Doubt it.

Alex K on December 29, 2006 at 5:37 PM

“It’s self-defense,” said Amare Aregawi, editor of the Reporter newspaper and a former rebel fighter. “People always say, ‘Don’t touch the terrorists. You’ll aggravate them.’ What are we supposed to do? Flatter them?”

Lengthen that “r” some and you’ve got my idea of flatten them.

steveegg on December 29, 2006 at 6:09 PM

Iran wants to get uranium, and there apparently is some to be had in Somalia. Quid. Pro. Quo.

The Monster on December 29, 2006 at 6:16 PM

“…flatter them?”

No, FLATTEN them!

Thank you, Ethies!

Tony737 on December 29, 2006 at 7:19 PM

Re:

Yes, and as several other people have pointed out in other threads on the HA site, “There is no cure for STUPID.”
Time for me to add the CyberCipher corollary to this principle, because not only is there no cure for stupid, but “In Western Civilization, there is no shortage of STUPID (either).”

CyberCipher on December 29, 2006 at 3:45 PM

I think Einstein said it best:

There are two things in this world which are universal: Hydrogen and stupidity–and I’m not sure about hydrogen.

(apocryphal)

urbancenturion on December 29, 2006 at 9:42 PM

Captain Slappy is at it again.

sonnyspats1 on December 30, 2006 at 7:58 PM