Pope: “I appreciate the religious tolerance in Iran”
posted at 12:36 pm on December 27, 2006 by Allahpundit
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Iran’s state media is the only outlet reporting that quote thus far, but he did meet for 45 minutes this morning with the Iranian foreign minister, who handed him the latest transmission from planet Ahmadinejad.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has sent a message to Pope Benedict XVI urging greater understanding between religions.
Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki arrived in the Vatican City Wednesday to deliver in person Ahmadinejad’s message, his latest letter in a series of missives to world leaders, the official news agency IRNA reported…
“President Ahmadinejad insisted in his letter on the common teachings of the prophets and the importance of establishing new political and human relations based on those teachings.
“The unjust relations that exist at the moment require the cooperation of different religions to remedy them,” Jahandideh quoted the letter as saying.
The Pope’s German by birth, of course, so maybe he’ll luck out and be treated to the same insights about “greedy Zionists” that Merkel was treated to earlier this year.
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When will world and religious leaders quit handing credibility to the insane tyrants? Whether Benedict said any such thing or not, allowing his presence to be used by liars when he should know they will lie about his words and thoughts is a mistake.
Freelancer on December 27, 2006 at 12:42 PM
I hate to say it but, I’m pretty much giving up on this pope. He’s old, there should be another along soon. Stick a fork…
Alex K on December 27, 2006 at 12:42 PM
I hate to say it but, I’m pretty much giving up on this pope. He’s old, there should be another along soon. Stick a fork…
Alex K on December 27, 2006 at 12:42 PM
Let’s just quit teaching history.
Then we can have the fun of WWII all over again but this time with more casualties, nukes, bio-bombs, and some chemical weapons just for fun.
Those who fail to learn the lessons from history…
Mojave Mark on December 27, 2006 at 12:48 PM
And to think that when Pope Benedict XVI took the helm he was widely described as acerbic, undiplomatic, etc. He was Pope John Paul’s “pit bull,” and we could expect him to act accordingly. Maybe those things just weren’t true. If they were, wonder why he’s gone out of his way to make Islamists happy with the Church. Particularly since it won’t work anyway.
BillLalor on December 27, 2006 at 12:54 PM
If we are only hearing this from Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki, I do not think the quote is credible.
CrimsonFisted on December 27, 2006 at 12:59 PM
True, but if he wasn’t there, they wouldn’t even be able to make the claim…
urbancenturion on December 27, 2006 at 1:03 PM
appreciate: “to understand the nature, worth, quality or significance of”–Merriam Webster’s online dictionary
The pope isn’t necessarily complimenting anything, although it would be uncharitable of the Iranians to suggest otherwise.
I kind of like the way he talks.
NellE on December 27, 2006 at 1:16 PM
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He must have been through the same brain washing procedure that they do on our Secretaries of State.
Bad Penny on December 27, 2006 at 1:18 PM
I didn’t know the Pope smoked crack.
I would be curious if the Pope also belives that Keanu Reeves is the best actor of our generation and that Paris Hilton is a good role model for kids.
If the quote is true, this Pope has just lost 100% of his credibility.
Rosetta on December 27, 2006 at 1:20 PM
According to some, the Catholic Church will be the world religion the anti-Christ uses to control folks on a religious scale. He’ll use the U.N. to control politics and economies. It’s all part of the plan, baby! PART OF THE PLAN!
(Assuming you believe in that stuff, of course)
SouthernGent on December 27, 2006 at 1:23 PM
appreciate: “to understand the nature, worth, quality or significance of”–Merriam Webster’s online dictionary
The pope isn’t necessarily complimenting anything, although it would be uncharitable of the Iranians to suggest otherwise.
In this sense of the word, isn’t it rather difficult to “appreciate” something that doesn’t exist?
Maybe the Pope could appreciate Iran’s religious intolerance but not their tolerance. There is no such thing.
Rosetta on December 27, 2006 at 1:25 PM
Wait for the context.
mikeyboss on December 27, 2006 at 2:05 PM
Either this thread is going to degenerate into people “sticking a fork” in the Pope, or people are going to realize that this is the IRANIAN MSM peddling this “quote.”
I mean, it’s not just the MSM. It’s the Iranian MSM. That’s a double whammy of incredibility. In fact, given the odds, I bet the Pope said something exactly the opposite and they’re just flat-out lying.
Sydney Carton on December 27, 2006 at 2:08 PM
I’m with mojave’ mark on this one.
You don’t think I can get fox news hooked up to my bunker do you? I’d hate to miss out on the mushroom clouds.
One Angry Christian on December 27, 2006 at 2:10 PM
Sydney — Good point, but even if this is false report, questions abound re the Pope’s capitulations on Islam. The reason people believe the report is that PB has said some screwy things since he said what Islamists think was the wrong thing.
BillLalor on December 27, 2006 at 2:18 PM
I believe it was said. ‘UNJUST RELATIONS THAT EXIST’ is the key phrase here. Their plan is to pacify and trick the world into believing they want to ‘cooperate’ when in fact its no different than a common war plan. Infiltrate your enemy and get to know him and his weaknesses well, then order a coordinated attack from with-in and from all sides from the perimeter.
We can never forget that Iran (ahmadingabat & the Iaytolluso) and most muslims have one goal, islam rule, sharia law for the planet. They will pursue this to the end, either the world ends as we know it, or they (islamofascists) do.
shooter on December 27, 2006 at 2:20 PM
Huh? Religious tolerance in Iran?
Isn’t that like saying; “Wow you guys in Nazi Germany sure do love the Jews”.
E L Frederick (Sniper One) on December 27, 2006 at 2:22 PM
BTW, I was quoting the iran president quote…
I don’t know whether to believe the pope said this or not.
..I do know where armamadjihad stands, and how he thinks. Thats no secret, we all know that hateful little turds thoughts about wiping Israel off the map.
He should concern himself with wiping his own stuff, it’s stinking up the world.
shooter on December 27, 2006 at 2:28 PM
The only ones questioning are those who didn’t understand what he said. There was NO capitulation and NO apology!
Connie on December 27, 2006 at 3:10 PM
“President Ahmadinejad insisted in his letter on the common teachings of the prophets …”
Thus making the Koran superfluous.
Dusty on December 27, 2006 at 3:29 PM
Hmm, now that I think about it, I wonder, is Ahmadinejad channeling Manuel II?
(… must quit being cynical.)
Dusty on December 27, 2006 at 3:34 PM
The POPE IS A FRAUD. He is a fake little man that doesn’t have the Holy Spirit and couldn’t even tell you how to GET it! He probably doesn’t even recognize it as something that you SHOULD HAVE, since that doctrine seems to be missing from Catholic theology. He is a fake. He is not a “MEDIATOR” between GOD and MAN, he is a liar and his father is the Father of lies (john 8:44). And to call himself the point man or the MEDIATOR between God and Us is BLASPHEMY, which the Catholic church celebrates every time they pray to Mary, as well.
For all of you who have suffered under his delusion for years, like I myself who grew up going to Catholic church, read the NEW TESTAMENT for yourself! The degree to which Catholicism takes hold in a community is exponentiallly dispositive of their BIBLICAL ILLITERACY.
Soothsayer on December 27, 2006 at 3:47 PM
Soothsayer,
Obviously you’re a bigot. Please go away. Thanks.
Sydney Carton on December 27, 2006 at 4:10 PM
Look, the Pope has fallen all over himself to say that he ‘respects’ Islam. How can a true Christian respect a religion that denies that Jesus is the Son of God?
Benedict is a dhimmi. There is no compromise between Yahweh and Allah. You believe in one or the other, but the two are not the same. Benedict needs to repent and believe.
PRCalDude on December 27, 2006 at 4:12 PM
PFCalDude,
Let’s do a little word substitution with your post, ok?
“the Pope has fallen all over himself to say that he ‘respects’ Judiasm. How can a true Christian respect a religion that denies Jesus is the Son of God?”
Fallacy #1, then, is your quibble over respect. Look, even if the man professed his enduring hatrid of Islam, he’d still have to “respect” the fact that it’s been around for 1,400 years. There’s plenty of things to “respect” about Islam even if you hate it and think it’s an evil religion.
Fallacy #2 is your assumption that Benedict doesn’t “believe” or is not a “true Christian” and that he’s a “dhimmi.” Sheesh. Do I even have to go here?
Apparently, some people just must bash the Pope.
PS: Allahpundit, I’d think that a fix to the title of this post is in order, something along the lines like “as claimed by Iranian MSM.” Absent that, it’s just going to be more Catholic/Pope bashing.
Sydney Carton on December 27, 2006 at 4:25 PM
“Greater understanding between religions” = “We need you to understand that we’re going to wipe out all other religions”
Jim Treacher on December 27, 2006 at 4:34 PM
Greater understanding = bow to us or be beheaded
CookeyD on December 27, 2006 at 4:36 PM
Darn, you beat me to it
CookeyD on December 27, 2006 at 4:36 PM
I must remember that “Timothy” was one of Jesus’ many pseudonyms and not the Apostle recommended by the Christians of Lystra to Paul and then accompanying him, because, after all, Paul was just another of Jesus’ pseudonyms. And Jesus, not the fakes and frauds of the Church, actually assembled the New Testament, after writing it all, because there are no mediators, except Him.
Thanks, Soothsayer, for the implicit advice, but no thanks. I do appreciate your point about biblical illiteracy, though.
Dusty on December 27, 2006 at 4:45 PM
I don’t understand what some people expect from the Pope these days. The Pope isn’t going to send a flame email to Iran. He’s also not going to call for a Crusade any time soon, regardless of how out of hand the Muslims get. The Pope just isn’t one of those “Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition” type of religous leaders. I didn’t see submission when he went to Turkey, I saw courage. He showed what a true Religion of Peace is supposed to look like.
BohicaTwentyTwo on December 27, 2006 at 5:00 PM
what the hell do you expect from someone in drag, and that lives in a gold plated palace.
retired on December 27, 2006 at 5:02 PM
Rick Warren teaming up with Syria, The Pope with Iran… what could go wrong?
RightWinged on December 27, 2006 at 5:21 PM
THIS POPE HAS GOT WHAT IT TAKES IN OUR PRESENT TIMe Some on here love to knock the pope or bash the catholic churches teachings, that’s fine by me. Just know that GOOD will overtake EVIL If you read scripture or not you might just want to learn more about what the church really teaches without bashing it from hearsay or from scandals that did happen in the church. Do you belive there hasn’t been scandals in every religion ?? GOD does exsist and there will be a time of reckoning ehrther you belive it or not. My hope is that more come to thier senses and know that this pope is courageous and a very spiritual leader, not a drone looking for some headlines. Read some of his books he has written over the past twenty some years and it just might (might) waken up your mind,heart and soul. Have a great day and a Happy New Year.
bones47 on December 27, 2006 at 5:33 PM
Where has the Pope called himself that?
mikeyboss on December 27, 2006 at 5:51 PM
Hey, Your Holiness, it’s POPE. Not PIMP but POPE.
geesh … you have to keep explaining these things over and over again to these old duffers.
pabarge on December 27, 2006 at 6:51 PM
bones47, I don’t know who you’re talking to specifically… but people having a problem with the Pope and/or Catholic Church has nothing to do with anyone’s belief in God. I know the Catholic Church often becomes “God” to Catholics and it’s tough to separate the two, but wake up dude, your comment is ridiculous and doesn’t make sense.
RightWinged on December 27, 2006 at 7:29 PM
When the Pope says that he appreciates Iran’s religious tolerance, perhaps he means the same as when one comments to someone having a temper tantrum “I love the way you have learned to keep your temper in check,” or to someone who is rude “I just love the way you are so police and cooperate so well with others,” or to someone who cannot sing “I just love the way you hold your notes, especially that last one that you screamed and which was not in tune with the music. I’ve never heard anyone else sing quite like that before.”
William
William2006 on December 27, 2006 at 7:59 PM
Mark Steyn wasn’t talking about the Pope, but he might as well have been:
Kralizec on December 27, 2006 at 8:29 PM
…and the account must be accurate if it comes out of the Iran State Media, right? [crickets chirping].
Islamic media has nothing at all to gain by misrepresenting
any facts, have they? [breet... breet]. And the mainstream media will do all it can to correct any mistakes, right? [breeet...]
B16 is nobody’s fool – stay tuned.
InsolentWoman on December 27, 2006 at 9:51 PM
In the accompanying Pope picture, is that the dreaded comfy chair?
Shy Guy on December 28, 2006 at 1:21 AM
There is unbelievable ignorance here. I expected more intelligence on a Malkin site.
Connie on December 28, 2006 at 2:02 AM
Well I’d like to hear confirmation that it’s a real quotes before I comment but I’m suprised at some of the ranting on here. Last month someone said the Pope was a pagan, now he seems to have been upgraded to anti-Christ. I could say something back but what’s the point?
aengus on December 28, 2006 at 8:27 AM
I bet you’ve never talked to a Catholic about religon before. I’d also bet that you’ve heard quite a bit about Catholics, but not from Catholics themselves.
There seems to be a whole lot of “My Christian God’s better than your Christian God” going on here. Yeah, like we need more religous intolerance in this world today.
BohicaTwentyTwo on December 28, 2006 at 10:01 AM
Ric
What could go wrong?………………………Perhaps next……….Obama and Hillary – “Late and Great in ‘08″?
Who knows?
Great post, though, as was this:
On track – so often people want to play the “my God’s better, bigger, etc.. than yours” game.
It probably amuses God to see how little we get it after all this time………………………or perhaps not.
Emmett J. on December 28, 2006 at 8:42 PM
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